is the way it is, only things that sort of serve his vision and he's also trying to convince us that that is the only world that exists. it is extremely -- but he's also trying to invite us into this madness that he has. that's heresy against reality, that is proselytizing for the most selfish and instincts that the american people, like all people, have, but he's not appealing to the better angels of our nature. >> i heard you say the thesis of your show has become essentially, hey, you're not crazy. >> right. >> right. that's the -- >> the audience is not crazy. how you feel is actually how you feel. how you think is actually how you think. what you see is actually happening. what you hear is actually what he said. >> i do think that's part of the appeal with news, what we do every night, people at a certain point -- >> yeah, how do you do it? let me ask you a question. >> yeah. >> how do you do it every night? i have the relief of doing jokes. >> right. >> i'm not taking anything away from "the ridiculist." please understand that.
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