Would she have bombed iran . If he is going to criticize a deal that has been very successful in giving us access to iranian into silfacilities t he never had before. He should tell us what his alternative should b. Its like his plan to defeat isis. He says its a secret plan. The only secret is he has no plan. So we need to be more precise in how we talk about these issues. People around the world follow our president ial campaigns so closely, trying to get hints about what we will do. Can they rely on us . Are we going to lead the world with straeng strength and importance with our values . Thats what i intend to do. I intend to be a leader of our country that people can count on both here at home and around the world to make decisions that will further peace and prosperity. But also stand up to bullies, whether theyre abroad or at home. We cannot let those who would try to destabilize the world to interfere with american interests and security. Your two minutes. Given any opportunities at all. Ask expired. One thing id like to say. Very quickly. I will go quickly. I will tell you that hillary will tell to you go to her website and read all about how to defeat isis, with i she could have defeated by never having it get going in the first place. Right now, its getting tougher and tough tore defeat them, because theyre in more and more places, more and more states, more and more nations. Mr. Trump. Its a big problem. As far as japan is concerned. I want to help all of our allies, but we are losing billions and billions of dollars. We cannot be the policemen of the world. We cannot protect countries all over the world which are not paying us what we need. We have a few final questions. She doesnt say that, she has no business ability. We need heart. Have you to have some basicability. Sadly, she doesnt have that. All of the things she is talking about could have been taken care of during the last ten years lets say while she had great power. But they werent taken care of. If she wins this race. They wont be taken care of. Mr. Trump, earlier this month you said she doesnt have quote a president ial look. Shes standing here right now. What did you mean by that . She doesnt have the look the stamina. I said she doesnt have the stamina. I dont believe she does have the stamina to be president of this country, you need tremendous stamina. The quote was i dont think she has a president ial look. Did you ask me a question . You have to be able to negotiate our trade deals. Have you to be able to negotiate thats right with japan, with saudi arabia, i mean, can you imagine were defending saudi arabia and with all of the min they have, were defending them, what do you have to do is speak to them . You have to so many Different Things have you to be able to do. I dont believe hillary has the stamina. Lets let her respond. Well, as soon as he travels to 112 countries and negotiates a peace deal, a ceasefire, a release of dissidence and opening of new opportunity of nations around the world or spend 11 hours testifying in front of a congressional committee, he can talk to me about stamina. The world, let me tell you. Hillary has experience, but its bad experience. We have made so many bad deals. So shes got experience that i agree. But its bad, bad experience. Whether its the iran deal is that are you so in love with, where we gave them 150 billion back. Whether its the iran deal, whether its anything, you almost cant name a good deal i agree. Shes got experience, its bad experience. This country cant afford to have another four years of that kind of experience. We are at the final question. One thing, lester, is, you know, he tried to switch from looks to stamina. But this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs, and dogs. And someone who has said pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers. I never said that. Who said women dont deserve equal pay unless they do as good a job as men. I didnt say it. One of the worst things he said was about a woman in a beauty contest. He loves beauty contests, supporting them, hanging around them. And he called this woman miss piggy. Then he called her his House Keeping because she was latina. Donald, she has a name. Her name is where did you find in. Elissa machado. She has become a u. S. Citizen. Can you bet she will vote this november. Let me just tell you. Mr. Trump, ten seconds. Hillary is hitting me with tremendous commercials, some of its said in entertainment. Some of it, somebody who have been very vicious, rosie odonnell. I said tough things to her, i think everybody would agree she deserves it, nobody feels sorry for her. You want to know the truth, i was going to Say Something extremely rough to hillary, to her family and i said to myself, i cant do it. I just cant do it. Its inappropriate. Its not nice. But she spent hundreds of millions of dollars on negative ads on me, many of which are absolutely untrue. Theyre untrue and theyre misrepresentations. And i will tell you this, lester, its not nice and i dont deserve that. But its certainly not a nice thing that shes done. Its hundreds of millions of events and the gratifying thing, i saw the polls come in today and with all of that money over 200 million spent and im either winning or tied. When i spent practically nothing. One of you will not win this election. So my final question to you tonight, are you willing to accept the outcome as the will of the voters . Secretary clinton . Well, i support our democracy and sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. But i certainly will support the outcome of this election. And i know donalds trying hard to plant doubts about it. I hope the people out there understand this is lex is really up to you. Its not about us so much as it is about you and your families a and the kind of country and future you want. So i sure hope will you get out and vote as though your future depended on it, because i think it does. Mr. Trump, quickly, same question, will you accept the outcome of the world of voters . I want to make the world great again. We are a nation that is seriously troubled. We are losing our jobs. The other day, we were deporting 800 people. Programs they patzed their own button, pressed the own button, programs worse than that, it was corruption. But these people we were going to deport for good reason ended up becoming citizens. Ended up becoming citizens, it was 800. Now it turns out it might be 1,800. They dont even know. Look, heres the story. I want to make America Great again. I will be able to do it. I dont believe hillary will. The answer is if she wins, i will absolutely support it. All right. That is going to do it for us. That concludes our debate for this evening. A spirited one. We covered a lot of ground, not etching as i suspected we would t. Next president ial debates are scheduled for october 9th in Washington University in st. Louis and october 19th the conversation will continue, a reminder the Vice President ial debate is scheduled for october 4th at Longwood University in farm victim, virginia. My thanks, to Hillary Clinton and to donald trump and to Hofstra University for hosting us tonight. Good night, everyone. [ applause ] [ applause ] with that the first president ial debate is in the box. A debate loosely moderated by lester holt of nbc news, giving the candidates ample room to go after each other, initially on policy, later trumps taxes, her emails the birther controversy. Jobs are getting early mention of this one tonight. This is a debate a lot of people renault are tuning into. No matter what sound bytes you had for weeks now, this is the one chance for them to layout. Some new ground was covered. By the way, just listening for some of the things we were talking about for the last couple of weeks on wall street. Heres donald trump saying with eare in a big fat ugly bubble. Saying janet yellen is doing a terrible level. These arent new accusationaccu. Talking about if you raise interest rates, hey, weve heard that plenty of times from other guests here on cnbc. We seen the futures going into the greevenl read that by the will the mexico peso moving sharply. At hofstra, john, we have been led to believe by the various campaigns that clinton was very intent on preparing trump taking a more improvation issal path. Was that borne out tonight . Yes, i think it was. Look i think the bottom line is Donald Trumps path to the presidency got a lot steeper tonight. This was not a good night for donald trump. He appeared rattled by Hillary Clinton. He interrupted herself times. He appeared flustered by questioning ability his taxes, his bankruptcies, his, the lawsuit which he was sued for Racial Discrimination. Hillary clinton was determined not to be flustered. She had an even tone. She smiled a lot during the debate. She did not look as displeads as donald trump did for a significant portion of it. He went at her hard by associating her with Public Policy failures. Those were familiar once. Things like trade, difficulties with the economy, difficulties in healing with isis. But the question is, whether or not he persuaded more voters that he looked like a president , that he is prepared to be a president. Ill not sure he accomplished that goal tonight. Michelle, what about Hillary Clinton, where there was the stereotype of her being robotic. The way she handled, especially the early part of the debate. Were notes being referenced, was lines trotted out . Was there a sense she was speaking off the cuffshe was showing us who Hillary Clinton is . How do you think she handled the stage . I think she used the word plans way too often. Shes got a plan. Ive got a plan for this i got a plan for. That at times it sounded like she was lectureing. Which has been a criticism of hers. She seemed flustered at one point when it cable to nafta, she looked flustered there. I would disagree with john a little bit. I think the bar for Donald Trumps success was low tonight. I didnt see any major gaffes. Did he become the wandering donald like he does frequently . Yes, he did it on occasion, not nearly as often as has been in the past. I think it was a better performance than weve seen from him for a long time. Especially, remember, it was unscripted for 90 minutes. All right remember john, he was attacked several times by her on taxes. Not just the idea of making those tax filings public, also the notion that he pays little or no taxes in the years we know something ability. His answer was that makes me smart. I wonder how effective that will ring . Well, let me go through a few of the things that were not helpful to donald trump. One was the pun u one you mentioned, when he said in reference to whether or not he failed to pay taxes in previous years. He said the money would have been squandered. Im not sure the ordinary taxpayer is going to feel reassured about that. When he talked about brungbankr said i used the laws of the country. He said maybe they didnt do a good job. All right. He at a later point was asked about the lawsuit being sued by the federal government for Racial Discrimination because she had a very strong attack on him for what she called racist behavior and he said, well, we settled that lawsuit with no admission of wrongdoing. That was not a stern defense of saying i didnt do it or i wasnt discriminating. Those are some of the ways in which i think donald trump hurt himself. I would say those points absolutely, i agree, those are moments he was weak. We talked about this before today. I mentioned this, were all establishment. I dont know we hear this debate the way the electorate hears this debate. Im not sure those weak moments are going to have that much of an impact actually. I think my grandfather is concerned his taxes are being squandered. In any case, speaking ability that exchange they had over tacks, heres what it is in case you mixed it. Maybe he doesnt want the American People, all of you watching tonight, to know that hes paid nothing in federal taxes. Because the only years that anybody has ever seen were a couple years he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license. They showed he didnt pay any federal income tax. That makes me smart. And that was what we were just referring to, that line there with donald trump saying that makes me smart whether or not he paid tax and issuing an ultimatum, which i think we heard before. Sure, hell release those tax returns against the advice of his own attorney, if Hillary Clinton releases all of her emails the 33,000 still missing. By the way the only question hillary got was a follow up in which she was asked in which to respond. That was it. That was also the moment len e when lester told the audience, donald trump said there was a large cheer in the audience, that makes me smart. I think that was very trumpian. I think some will find that very, very funny. Another moment he was funny on was cyber security, a key issue in the securing americas section and specifically he was responsible for the dnc hack. I dont think anybody knows it was russia that broke into the dnc. She is saying, russia, russia, russia. May have been it was, it could be russia. It could be china. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pound, okay. So he definitely lost the fat hacker tonight, thats for sure. Indeed. We went over some ground covered in prior interviews. A lot regarded trumps original position whether he supported the war in iraq. Take a listen to that. Donald supported the invasion of iraq. Wrong. That is absolutely wrong. 3r06 over and over again. Wrong. Several instances of that, john, where he tried to interject in her answers. She didnt let him derail ore answer, but was the interruption, in itself, effective . Well, look. This is another area where i think donald trump, remember, his task tonight was to convince voters, especially white educated voters, he is prepared to be president. He has the gravitas to be president. In the answer, he kept quoting over and over sean hannity, the main stream media wont called sean hannity. Did that look president ial . I dont think so. Did it look president ial when he talked ability a 400 person on their bed. I dont think so. When he was asked ability the birther controversy, which he pushed, very high profile way for a number of years. He kept talking, trying to blame it on Hillary Clinton. He was talking about a wolf blitzer and a campaign aide, those things in those moments, i am not sure that donald trump made himself look larger to people who questioned whether he can actually serve as president. The sean hannity thing was a weird, weird moment, he kept going over and over. I think on a lot of the issues, when i went back, for example the issue on the iraq war, i dont think that moves the electorate. I think people watching tonight who dont like Hillary Clinton are looking to figure out what else they would rather do and did donald trump do well enough to convince them to make them comfortable im not sure we have that tonight. We have two more to go t. Vice president ial debate on the 4th. John what needs to happen for trump and clinton in the next two of these . Well, i think donald trump needs to have a strong irdebate an engage Hillary Clinton that does not look overbearing, does not make him appear exasperated and makes him more persuasive case as we discussed before, that hes got the temperament. He had a little rift in the debate, he said, my temperament is my strongest asset. Hes looking at polls where 60 of the American People say he doesnt have the right temperament to be president. Hes got to persuade them, not just assert it. As for Hillary Clinton, i think she fell a little short in terms of inspiration and vision tonight. And i think thats a task for her to kond working on, she was pretty unflappable in this debate. I dont see any significant mistakes that she made, but thats an area where she could do better in the second, third debatsz. She needs to eliminate the word plan or reduce it by 80 and fact check. All thats left is to see the ratingles tomorrow. 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