About apple and ive done with the obsession. And i the kudlo good evening, everyone. Im larry kudlow. This is the kudlow report. Flanked by School Children president obama lays out his case for gun control and cure tailing mass violence. New limits on assault weapons and high capacity ammo magazines. Will it work . Well debate that. The major gun maker stock finished much higher today and also talk what that might mean. Importantly we have this breaking news. The faa has just moved to ground all 787 boeing dreamliner flights. Thats right. The faa says this is until boeing can prove its on board batteries are quote safe and in compliance. This comes after a recent slew of on board fires on these new jets. Finally tonight how can the gop start Winning National elections again . My pal and our special guest, Joe Scarborough, the anchor of msnbc morning joe is going to join us later. He and i will plot some republican reform. First up lets start with boeing. The faa has grounded the boeing 787 dreamliner in the u. S. Pending a safeafet check of the planes lithium batteries. United airlines has already announced it will comply with the order, they have no choice to do so. Remember also boeing is a dow component and selling off in the aftermarket and remember this is all related to the recent spate of incidents on board the 787 both here and the United States and in japan. Theres been fires in the cockpit on two occasions and fuel leaks as well. Our phone phil lebeau will join us with this story. Now back to the headline story, president obama called on congress to further restrict assault weapons and limit ammo magazines today. Marking the broadest push for gun control in a generation we have Cnbc Eamon Javers who is here to join us with the details. Reporter it was an emotional event over at the white house. The president flanked by small children announcing his proposals on gun violence announcing a new assault weapons ban, limits on magazine sizes, enhanced background checks and access to Mental Health. The president said however that lawmakers up on capitol hill have a stark choice to make. Whats more important . Doing whatever it takes to get an a grade from the gun lobby that funds their campaigns, or giving parents some piece of mind when they drop their child off for first grade. Reporter the gun lobby in the form of the National Rifle association reacted today saying attacking firearms and igdmoirj is not a solution to the crisis we face as a nation. Only honest, lawabiding gun owners will be affected and our children will remain vulnerable to the ineactivitiability of more tragedy. A lot of these proposals that the president put out were greeted with lukewarm response. John boehners spokesman put out a statement saying the house will look at those recommendations and if the senate pass as bill they will look at that too but no commitment move to any legislation in the house of representatives. So, larry, it looks like a lot of these proposals will not happen but there were more than 20 elements of what he proposed today, the president that were, in fact, executive actions that he could sign today and enforce through the executive branch of the government and that he did. So the rest of the proposals will be legislative and well have to see how they fare. As always, thanks eamon javers. The National Rifle association is pushing back with a tough new ad campaign labelling the president an elitist hypocrite for allowing his own kids to have their protection. Are the president s kids more important than yours . Then why is he skeptical about putting Armed Security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school . Mr. Obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes. But, hes just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. Protection for their kids, and gun free zones for ours. All right. The white house called the ad repugnant and cowardly. I think they are right. Can i Say Something about this partisan back and forth. We have just come out of a heinous mass murder atrocity which is of course a complete national tragedy. All right. Is it possible, just once that the republicans and the nra and democrats and the president can stop this cheap unseemly squabbling just once . May we have a civilized conversation about what this nation can do to avoid another horrible sandy hook . All i want, all i want is a civil conversation. Theres a lot of very complex pieces here and they need the best minds to figure this out. I just want the squabbling to stop. This is worst than the fiscal squabbling and the debt ceiling. You know why . The stakes are higher. Were talking human lives. Those little baby angels. Lets try in their memory to figure something out if stead of hurling epithats and talking about impeaching the president and imperial presidency and all this crap. Tonight i hope well do that. We have the president of the naacp, we have nationally syndicated lars larson and congresswoman nan hayward. Im not opposed to types this bill. Cheap shots squabbling is wrong. This is a national tragedy. We need to do something about it. Ben, may i begin with you. Sure. What is your position on the president s view and do you believe that if he got what he wants, it would have stopped the awful heinous tragedy at sandy hook in newtown, connecticut which is right next door to where i live . Were very supportive of a whole lot thats in this bill. And its clear that this would have made it harder to get these sorts of guns in the first place, harder to buy the high capacity clips, harder for a person who was unstable, you talk about newtown or columbine, talk about what happened in colorado more recently. And, it would also quite frankly make sure that that school had a plan. And its important to all our schools have plans on what to do on these days. Whats also important here, though, is that it deals with both types of tragedies that we have in our country when it comes to young people dying from gun violence. Because it also deals with whats going on in chicago and whats happening in new york and in so many other cities where kids may not be killed in the school, but they are killed just beyond the school house steps. Let me get to the other two. I want to go to my friend nan. Im not saying you need to favor it. What ive heard, were going impeach him because he had executive orders. I can just say this . Papa bush, george h. W. Bush had an executive order that stopped the imports of assault weapons. That was back, if im not mistaken in 1989. So dont tell me executive orders is just an obama thing, its not. Lets go the substance of this thing. Would it have stopped the heinous tragic crime . Is it dealing with the Mental Illness . Is it dealing with the cultural issues . Clearly, larry, youre absolutely right the president does have the power of the executive order. Lets see the president use that power not only to issue executive orders but also as the thought leader in the country really to bring focus on what is the common factor in all of these dreadful things. Im a mother, im a doctor. Its unimaginable and unthinkable and that is deviant behavior. These are criminal minds perpetrating these crimes. We need to have an effective approach to that problem. Guns are inas a nm inanimate. Family break up. The fact that theres no faith or heaven forbid prayer in elementary school. Is there enough of that in this . Well, theres leadership on all accounts that we need including leadership quite honestly, larry, on the economy because a bad economy, unfortunately, doesnt give us the resources we need to allow for better interventions, lets say in Mental Health. Lets look at a fellow democrat, the democrat from colorado who came out with a proposal to stream line their processes for identifying people who may be dangerous to themselves and others and also bolster Mental Health measures and initiatives. Lars larson youre going to pose everything. What do you want . Heres the problem. The president shamelessly surrounds himself with children and used them as props. Ben seems uninformed on this. This young man didnt buy his firearm. He stole it from his mother after murdering his mother. The president s proposed bill to congress to ban the manufacture and sale of new sporting rifles, semiautomatic rifles and large capacity magazines wouldnt have done a darn thing to stop sandy hook or aurora, colorado. It would have done nothing. Let me ask you this. If it were in effect now i dont even know, theres issues about pistol grips and theres loopholes in this whole thing. Its all cosmetic. But, if it were in effect and you couldnt get your hands on new ones then the mother wouldnt have had the gun and the kid couldnt have stolen the gun. No. Larry, you dont understand. Lars the lawabiding gun owner and the reality is we have to make it harder for lawabiding gun owners to get things that only the military should have. What good does that do, larry, with all due respect. Larry, it doesnt make any sense to make it harder for lawabiding people to get guns. Its the criminal doing the crime. It certainly does. They are not military grade. Its such a canard. These are not military grade weapons. They look scary to liberals. Look hang on one second. Look, i dont know what the answer is. Im just saying im speculating here and i may be dead wrong. There are loopholes. Here in new york state if you have a pistol grip you cant by the automatic but if you dont have the pistol grip you can. Im not sure in what the details of this is. I just want to inject that. Im not taking a position but im saying its all cosmetic. We got to figure out something. Look, we have to be concerned about newtown and columbine and concerned about what happened at the theater in colorado and whats happening in chicago. And the reality is that this will go a lot further than the gun lobby has let us go in a very long time. Larry, with all due respect, you know whats happening in chicago . Children are being killed in chicago by pistols not by rifles. This doesnt do a darn thing. Agree. Nan. Chicago is the number one city for gun laws in the country, the most restrictive, the number one city for gangrelated violence and crime. Suppose we had, let me ask you this. Suppose we had ammunition magazine that wasnt 50 or 100 because then, look, the aurora movie that kid fired off i dont know how many rounds. This crazy kid fired off some people said 100 to 150 rounds in sandy hook. Do we have to have these ammo magazines that are that big . Is it necessary, really . Again, the guns and the magazines are the tools of criminals. Its not magazines are very rapidly changed. If somebody intends to do harm, thats the root cause and thats what were not addressing. We have limited resources. We got to make sure that any legislation that we pursue, any measures we pursue actually do not cause more harm than good and we dont even talk about the statistics of firearms used in selfdefense and those statistics actually can be quite compelling. Lars, i just want to say to you. We may disagree on this we may not. As crazy as it may be, to me so much of this is about individual behavior. And theyve taken the faith and theyve taken the prayers out of our School System for many, many years. So much of this, lars, is about the impact on the kids of family breakup and no one wants to talk about family breakup. Ben, i think can we talk about health care . You know family breakup, you month the faith, you know all this stuff play as role in this. You know this. Thats where we need school counselors. We should have one counselor for every 250 kids. In this country its now one in 500. Part of what we saw in this it will make it easier for schools to get those counselors, easier for schools to get psychologists. What we know those types of be folks help us create the sort of bonded close knit School Community that makes it possible. Baloney. Come on. Larry, this is crazy. Larry, do you think a cool counselor would have changed adam lanza . Adam lanza had access to Mental Health care. Thats why his parents knew he had problems. California, one week ago, two weeks ago, young man goes in there, been bullied, shoots one student, intends to shoot others and the teachers are able to talk him down. The counselor would have changed that. I got to get out. An armed guard didnt stop columbine did it. Theres complex aspects to this. Some have to do with guns. Some with ammo. Some with social conditions. Some to do with Mental Health. Some with faith and family breakup. Im just saying lets have this conversation. You all were great tonight. Lets just have this conversation without hurling political accusations, you know. I usually oppose mr. Obamas economic policies. On this one he laid them out. Lets have a talk about it. If we can come up with Something Better fine. Anyway thank you ben, thank you la smp lars, thank you nan. The faa Just Announced grounding the 787 boeing dreamliner until further notice. How crushing is this for boeing. The big airlines themselves, phil lebeau has a live report for us in just a moment and later in the show the debt battle seems to be tearing conservatives apart. Once between i say do not play chicken with the debt ceiling and risk a default. By free market coke brothers agree. A new team of conservatives seems to be ignoring that advice and i think they are wrong but well debate it and dont forget, folks, free market capitalism is still the best path to prosperity. This is still the greatest country in the world. Let us figure out our problems and well continue to greatness. Im kudlow. Well be right back. Officeyour business needs. K. At prices that keep you. Out of the red. This week get a bonus 15 itunes gift card with any qualifying 75 ink purchase. Find thousands of big deals now. At officemax. Fiber one. Uh, forgot jacks cereal. [ jack ] whats for breakfast . Um. Try the number one yeah, this is pretty good. 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Airlines and only one right now United Airlines is actually flying the dreamliner, in reality what happens with the faa often sets the agenda for other aviation administrations in other countries around the world. Youll likely see other agencies in other countries fall in line with this and essentially what youre looking at here is ultimately all of the 787 dream liners will be grounded at least for the foreseeable future dill they get to the bottom of the issue. We already saw the japanese story. Some of the jal planes were grounded. Financially, phil, financially what does this mean . The stock is falling for boeing. Reporter too soon to tell for boeing. The big implication for boeing when you look at their production schedule they are making five of these dream liners a month, the plan is to make ten per month by the end the year. 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Its all happening in algeria, in north africa where islamic militants have taken as many as 41 hostages. Nbc news has learned from u. S. Officials that there are three americans among those hostages. Unlike the situation in benghazi last year the white house has wasted no time this time around calling this a terrorist attack. Heres what the National Security spokesperson had to say. We condemn in the strongest terms a terrorist attack on British Petroleum personnel and facilities at an in amenas, algeria. We are closely monitoring the situation. Leon panetta suggested military action may be necessary. He said i want to assure the American People of the United States will