Thank you very much im going to turn it im going to turn it back over to the alexandria chief. Thank you, chief. Were not not folk, were not going to answer any questions at this point, because as the chief pointed out this is an active, Ongoing Investigation. We call the crime scene hot because were collecting information and evidence and it would be premature for us to respond any further in an hour and a half well come back together and give you an update on what we can speak to and perhaps give you answers to some questions. But chief, any indication were done right now. Any other shooters this is a stable situation, theres no additional threat we consider this to be about closed incident under investigation. Thank you very much. Well be back in an hour and half. That was Michael Brown there we continue to monitor this breaking news out of alexandria, virginia, this morning if youre just joining us, a gunman opening fire on a gop congressional baseball practice around 7 15 this morning, local time the latest information majority whip Steve Scalise shot, but in stable condition at least two other Capitol Police are shot. No fatalities. As you just heard Alexandria Police say the shooters in custody, described by congressman brooks as a middle aged caucasian male. You just heard they consider this a closed incident interviewing witnesses and we do expect a press conference in about an hour and a half when hopefully, jim, we learn some more. Yeah. Obviously very jarring this is these are our leaders and it seems like that until Something Like this it was kind of we have heard from enough people to say that it was fun. And that there wouldnt be really the thought of additional security its like, okay, heres an event. I know some people have said it wont change things, but i think it will change things that you will not have a group of Congress People get together in open space and not think that there shouldnt be a lot more security just kind of an event that has occurred and that changes everything thats the way it is in this country. To that point, we are joined by congressman tom rooney of florida, who was on the scene. Congressman, we appreciate your time today on a terrible day and a busy one for you im sure can you describe what you saw this morning well, i actually had to leave practice about four minutes before the shots they were at 7 09 i know i got in my car at 7 05 because i had to get my kids to school i know steve just finished doing batting practice and then went back out to second base. I play first base. And apparently from what moe brooks said, the gunman was along the fence line along third base theres a parking lot there. The detail sits in a black suv, and the only day that you can get on to the field is by space. His detail is there but its a wide open space. So if somebody had a rifle, i mean, obviously they could have probably positioned themselves in a lot of different places its just its shocking to me that, you know, we have been practicing there for probably six years and i never felt unsafe, you know like was being said before, this is game for charity that we practice for a few weeks before at that location and then we play at that stadium tomorrow and i just i guess im in shock right now. I cant believe that i left four minutes before this all happened but i didnt see any people Walking Around i mean, theres dog park there that a lot of people that are walking their dogs and stuff but that early in the morning its usually pretty sparsely populated. Rand paul this morning on our Sister Network msnbc said had it not been for the presence of Capitol Police, there because of the presence of leadership, this may have been a massacre i i cant disagree with rand on that one i mean, you know, i know that that detail is there for steve i dont know that you know, formally when you have a lot of normally when you have a lot of congressmen gathered in one place like that, whether we go, you know, together on some retreat or Something Like that, we always have Capitol Hill Police with me im not sure that they would be there anyway or not. But certainly that steves detail that was there. Like i said in their suvs blocking that gate and theyre there every day. So, yeah, rand is probably right. Do you believe that the protocol for protection of members of Congress Needs to change as a result of what happened this morning . I dont know. I mean, you know, like i said, it would never dawn on me in a million years us practicing in alexandria, virginia, at this baseball field at 6 30 in the morning, were usually done at 7 30 it never it never dawned on me that i ever had to fear for my life. I know that times are crazy and all that stuff, but this is a Charity Baseball game that we have been playing forever. I have never i never you know, in fact, sometimes when i walk by the suv and i see those guys in there, im glad that theyre there but, you know, i almost think of them as there for steve and im just in shock right now. I mean, you know, the ironic thing is today is my kids last day of school so normally i wouldnt have left early yeah i dont know if steve how hes doing, but hes a great guy. You know, like i said, he plays second, i play first i stand next to him. You know, its pretty emotional right now. Yeah. I dont know how hes doing representative, jim cramer here i think you said something that defines the time you said i know its a crazy time, and at a crazy time baseball practices are different at a crazy time, gatherings among say half a dozen Congress People may be different. I think that this is a bit of a wakeup call, dont you think . I mean, heres place where a few years ago that it wouldnt be an issue. Maybe crazy times require a different kind of protection do you think im wrong about that yeah. Jim, i cant deny what youre saying isnt true because of what just happened you know, maybe as we move forward, maybe there needs to be a bigger Police Presence while we practice. I mean, this is a Charity Baseball game that, you know, like said we have been practicing at that field for probably six years but i guess, yeah, maybe we need more people around the whole field just to practice a baseball game against the democrats which is one of the few fun things we do with each other for charity. And, you know, to think that we need to go out there at 6 30 in the morning an be completely surrounded by police is just never its never something that dawned on me. But ill tell you, jim, if next year were surrounded by police i guess it wont surprise me now. Congressman, thank you for your time. I appreciate it very much as we try to learn as much about the situation as we can. Congressman rooney joining us. By the way, just now a message just now, they have deployed a robust Police Presence throughout the complex today, however, all buildings within the capitol complex are open and in accordance with routine operations i covered homicide for a number of years as a reporter and it is you get a situation i covered crime and you get a situation where you suddenly have Something Like this you recognize i have been at School Shootings for instance, i covered serious School Shootings. The next thing you know you have police in schools that you never would have dreamed my old high school, police at my old high school. Of course you go to school do learn, you dont go to learn to be protected they go to practice to have fun, but it doesnt matter if youre having fun the world changes. Its changed for them this morning. Yep the fact that theyre practicing for this bipartisan game tomorrow, if its still happening, is not lost on anyone. No, exactly thank heavens from what we have heard so far, anybody gets shot is bad, obviously, but the idea that i mean, i sat and listened, i said, geez, the republican congressmen thanks go there every year for six years anyone who googles something knows that theyre there its a different world you can google and find out where people practice and if you have if youre motivated its different. Nothings really secret. People know where people go. Were at a crazy time i think the congressman really said it right. Its crazy time and everybody with insecurity has to amp. Lets get to eamon javers who is covering this today he joins us on the telephone this morning eamon, after yesterdays brief change in the protocol of covering members of congress on the hill, here we are again. Worried about the degree to which regular people, media or citizens can access members of congress. Yeah. Thats right, carl it is sort of an eternal debate up on capitol hill there have been proposals over the years to ramp up the security and the members of congress to their credit have always resisted that they have wanted to have the public have access to them, have access to the congressional buildings, the proposal youre talking about yesterday was the change to change the way the media can conduct interviews in the hallways thats a little bit different in the sense that all those people in the hallways will have gone through security already at the entrance to the Congressional Office building. So its less a situation that youre trying to protect against an active shooter and just crowd control in the hallways that theyre concerned with up there. This situation feels a little different, we have seen isis related attacks in england recently that have been focused on, you know, random terror. Hitting people on the London Bridge hitting people at a concert. This one feels less random and more targeted. And more reminiscent maybe of Gabby Giffords shooting in 2011 in which case the congresswoman in tucson was shot in the head and six others were shot there that felt like there was somebody who knew that the congresswoman was going to be at that event, who went there expressly to do harm to her and to people around her this feels like somebody knew, like jim said, that this event was taking place, went there with some evil intent in mind. And we have to wait to fine out more about the motives of the shooter. But when you talk to members of congress, they do not want to wall themselves off from the rest of the world. They dont want that idea, as you just heard, of the battalion of Police Officers protecting them when they practice baseball for the charity game they want to be able to meet and greet, shake hands, talk to the constituents talk to all of the Interest Groups that they have to deal with on a day to day basis thats the job thats democracy in action and they want to be able to do it. And these times that were in make that increasingly challenging as you guys were just discussing. Yeah. Eamon, well chat with you in a few moments. To your point though, congressman mark walker this morning on to nbc news said he believe the gunman was there to kill as many gop members as possible Kayla Tausche is on the scene. She joins us on the phone. For more intelligence about the shooter, well have to wait for that press conference ostensibly in about 90 minutes. Yeah. We will see exactly what the police say, carl, but local residents here in Alexandria Echo the point that you and that eamon were just making that they believe that the shooter came to this location with a target in mind. I just spoke to a resident who was walking his dog, about 100 yards away from the baseball field when the shots started taking place he said it sounded like fireworks. And that people in this neighborhood, in this town know that this practice happens as he said, its in the summer leading up to this Charity Baseball thing theyre here almost every day, with summer break happening right now. A lot of lawmakers bring their children to this practice. That its normally a genial event, but that they have even if a few of them, they have security details with them at this practice. But he says that the area that this baseball field is in, its safe its more mom and pop stores than big franchises and that the local community is very close. And that everyone was aware that this practice took place often, nearly every day as he said. And that he and other residents that he has spoken to this morning believe that it was someone coming here because they knew that it was lawmakers who were practicing on that field. Indeed. What can you describe what youre seeing right now, kayla how close are you to that baseball field im at the fence, carl, looking right into the outfield. Theres caution tape on nearly every side of the field. We were able to get fairly close, despite the fact that they that police are leading up to the front part of the field near the dugout and the bleacher, theyre blocked off by police some of the areas on the side of the baseball field are blocked off with caution tape. But im looking at it right now. It is completely empty its not swarmed with police at least on the field but there are cop cars that are assessing the situation over by the dugout and well see if they can string together any more details about how and why this took place this morning. And to the degree eyewitnesses have been able to reconstruct that scene, jim, rand paul again on msnbc this morning saying describing the scene of scalise shot and trying to crawl his way to the outfield to evade more fire is it cant get any more harrowing than that. No. Sounds like another country. Doesnt sound like our country the openness with which these leaders may want to be is i think going after an event like this is going to challenge them i know that our country has changed over time. What we have had to do to defend people what to do to defend president s, but i think that there will not be groups of Congress People getting together in a nice neighborhood and playing softball any more without with clearance you will need clearance to get near you will need people around it it is fact of life we changed things dramatically after 9 11 and no one would have thought remember, when we used to run on a plane thing is one of the events that says we cant do it. We cant have the people get together at a place where Everybody Knows theyre going to get together and just think that we can have protection for the leader. I just think thats what happens. Thats just what happens whats thats going to do to peoples willingness to run for office f theyre targets like this i think its a new level of understanding, a level of risk look, the discourse in the country there was a fabulous piece not that long ago written by michael sembolis a Senior Analyst from jpmorgan. He said we have not had this level of partisanship since the civil war. And i read it and i thought for a moment that it was overstated. But then he kind of went through hes a fantastic thinker. We dont have we have a level of partisanship that i think is part of the equation now and a level of partisanship can breathe a different kind of behavior i think to dismiss this as a one off would be irresponsible by those in security. One question is how it affects the white house. Today is the president s birthday sara eisen is at the white house. Your day has changed as well absolutely. And now we are just monitoring the white house reactship reactions that are coming in the Vice President and i are aware of the shooting incident in virginia and are monitoring developments closely we are deeply saddened by this tragedy. Our thoughts and prayers are with the members of congress their staffs Capitol PoliceFirst Responders and all others affected President Trump also tweeting from his twitter account, representative Steve Scalise of louisiana, a true friend and patriot, was badly injured but will fully recover our thoughts and prayers are with him the Vice President pence also tweeting, karen and i are praying for Steve Scalise. The Capitol Police and all for a speedy recovery. Our hearts are with them and their loved ones you mentioned the schedule the Vice President was scheduled to speak to Home Builders and that has been cancelled as far as the president s schedule, we are still awaiting word heres how it was supposed to go down he was set to have a listening session with medical and Health Officials at the white house no word on whether that will go as planned also happening here today, which is why we came, ceos are set to come to the white house as part of Workforce Development week to have a listening session with ivanka trump and reed cordish, the economic adviser, and thats set to be follow bade 3 followed by a 3 30 speech by the president. Maybe make new announcements on the apprenticeship front we are awaiting for word from the white house, and of course well bring it to you as soon as we get it. Kayla, just in this overall discussion of the way the discourse has deteriorated in washington, has anyone just in passing or off the record talked about the notion of boy, do we have to dial back the rhetoric, that the rhetoric the comedians have become too vicious. The discourse in the papers have become too vicious the way that people use the words that People Choose are very inappropriate anyone talking about the idea that maybe this is a wakeup call just to make it so its more civil did kayla drop us . Sara . Sorry, i thought that was for kayla. We just arrived in washington and of course this is going to change the conver