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look at google. look at that stock up another buck, almost two. ten year gain up more than 1,000%. near its all time highs today. is this stock worth $1100? maybe even more, do i hear $1200? a lot of big movers today. sue will tell you about some of them at the new york stock exchange. i sure am, thank you. let's get a check of the markets, first. the dow is down a little today, about 78 points on the trading session. the s&p is flat, the nasdaq is up but the big picture doesn't really tell the story today. so we have several really big movers. remember when we used to talk taser? all the time, practically? the stock is up big today on new orders. riverbed technology also up big as elliott management offers to acquire that company. soda stream got an upgrade. the stock is bubbling higher and sandisc is up. plus, there's forest labs, which is buying apdale's and micron and constellation are up on earnings. sales of mckesson corporation up as well. fleer announcing a new product for smartphones using heat sensing technology. also on the radar, the oil market, which has really been all over the map, has fallen about 3% in the last week or so. today, just a fractional move to the upside with crude at $107.40. bob pisani is on the floor with us. yesterday we felt like the market had a little bit of kind of legs underneath it. >> a little disappointing. adp numbers were good, yet the market never really responded. i would note financial stocks continuing to rally. health care is also a big winner. they are the two winners so far this year. take a look at what's moving here. i think the important thing here right now is earnings. micron, great numbers. sue mentioned constellation. great beer sales from them. they raised their 2014 eps guidance. that's the winner here. we're waiting for more positive commentary. this is the first one. monsanto also better than expected. the real problem we're having is china is off to a rocky start. it's really hurting the commodity name so steel stocks, for example, there's the xme which is energy stocks, the xop, that's oil stocks, and steel stocks, slx, they have all had a rough start to the year overall. finally, a lot of downgrades as people adjust for valuation. some food names were downgraded by deutsch bank. we got an upgrade of hershey's and kraft food got an upgrade. it's had its own problem because there apparently is a shortage of velveeta out there. my hometown of philadelphia is in a tizzy because it's a critical ingredient in cheesesteaks. why there's a shortage of processed food is beyond me. it's got people very, very worried. this is done via twitter by advertising agents. thank you for that breaking news there. >> thank you, bob. see you later. yesterday we had a weak three-year note auction. let's see how the ten-year, the benchmark went off the boards. rick santelli is back, thank goodness, to give us his grade on the auction. >> well, this is a "c" for charlie. charlie is what we give on the grade. very average. let's go through. it was $21 billion reopen, original auction held two months ago. the ultimate yield on this reopening, 3.009. a lot of decimal places. last time we had a three on this was in may of 2011, to give you some context. here's why it's average. average bid to cover last ten options, 2.70. this one snuck right in there at 2.68. 46.6 on indirect, 43% ten auction average. we're a little heavy there. we were a little light on directs at 13.6 and dealers took 39.8, a little less than 40%. maybe that's good news. but in the end, this was average from top to bottom. tyler and sue, back to you. >> rick santelli, thank you very much. three big stock stories also on the radar. sheila dharmarajan watching it. josh lipton on google's good year so far. but we start with dominic chu and some stocks that are getting a real boost from the big tech show out in las vegas. take it away. >> the big companies are always going to get the headlines but here are some of the fun ones. sue alluded to one earlier. that's fleer systems. this company, fleer, you got to think about night vision but thermal imaging, these guys do a lot of that kind of work. what they have announced is a new app for your iphone that can do thermal imaging as well. if you talk about the way the stock has performed, check this out, because this company, it really has done well in this new thermal technology, it could be good for the iphone and good for sales going forward as well. also one you want to watch, also touch screenish for phone and ipads, a new product could revolutionize notebook computers going forward. it's magnetic which lets you have not just a keyboard but also a touch screen function for that as well. that company is doing pretty well in terms of its stock as well. now, the last one i want to talk about here is i-robot, a stock that's been on a tear, you can see up about 9% over the past call it day or two here. this company has just unveiled a new robot vacuum and mopping mechanism that also disinfects. it's pricey, it will cost about $600. still, i-robot does a lot of these type of products and tyler overall, this stock has been on a tear. one of the best performing stocks in this group over the last year. >> look at that thing go, man. that is beautiful. my son will want one of those. thank you very much. let's go out to josh lipton and talk a little more about google's big run. josh, my argument is that whenever your company name becomes a verb or generic term, you have made it. >> reporter: i think investors agree with you. google has been on a tear. analysts think it could move higher from here, the stock hitting another record today after skyrocketing up nearly 60% in 2013. that was its biggest annual gain since 2009. 69% of analysts have a buy rating on the stock right now. the bold pace, listen, it's a play on online advertising, dominant market share in search, youtube which analysts estimate already generates $5 billion a year in revenue, will benefit from the move to online ad dollars and google, it's an early leader in wearables as well. yes, glass is geeky but it could be cool in a few years with the right design. technicians also on the google bull band wagon. mark newton is gray wolf's chief technical analyst, telling cnbc that google is a buy. resistance is at 1175 with support at 1105. but not everybody is a google believer. jordan rowhan is one of the few on the streets that rates google a hold. his big concern, no surprise, the stock is too expensive, he says. google is trading at around 22 times forward earnings. that's about 30% above its five year average. so who is right? we will get the latest on google's financials when it reports fourth quarter earnings on january 30th. back to you. >> thank you very much. sheila dharmarajan with another great stock story for today. 2013 laggards who have been putting up good numbers so far this year. sheila? >> reporter: let's start off with teradata, down a whopping 27%. take a look at the last month, the stock is up over 10%. what is going on? analysts tell me look, this is a company that has really expensive products. in fact, the average bill is about $1 million. last year, companies weren't really willing to pay that. they were worried about their budgets and the economy so the company couldn't sign deals and basically whiffed on its earnings numbers. now perhaps the economy is on solid footing, companies feeling a little bit more confident, so we are starting to see a turnaround in these shares but analysts do warn me this is a show-me story. the company still has to put up those numbers. the number two i got a retailer for you, called five below. this is a fun store. i don't know if you have ever been in one. they sell all sorts of little cheap trinkets aimed at the tween market. had a decent 2013 but you can see the stock completely fell off around october, november, when the company reporting earnings. basically had light guidance going forward. now you are starting to see a little bit of life in five below. what is going on? i spoke to analysts who said look, this is a company that is known for always guiding pretty low. they are known for this guidance game. he thinks the holiday traffic has been really strong. rainbow looms, that crazy toy, has been part of it. he says big picture, when you take a look at this stock, the company has 300 stores now, could be going to 2,000 stores. last stock i got for you is one we love to talk about, blackberry. terrible year last year. blackberry turning around now, all about can this company be turned around. we have to wait and see. >> thanks very much. let's move now to seema mody for a market flash. >> good afternoon. check out shares of jc penney hovering near session lows while the struggling retailer said it was pleased with its holiday sales performance though it rattled investors by not providing any details on those sales. the stock trading down around 8%. sue? thank you very much. a developing story just a few blocks from where we are right now. the jury selection is under way in the case of another former sac capital trader. kate kelly is on that story for us. what do you have? >> reporter: i'm standing in front of the court where the jury pool is currently being questioned by the judge. there are about 40, 45 people still in the room at last check and they are going through a number of questions about legal background, any connections or biases against the united states or against sac. a few people have been eliminated but interestingly, the jury pool which i would say is predominantly white and middle aged, contains a woman whose cousin actually was an employee of sac capital at some point. she has not been eliminated, nor has a gentleman who actually runs a debt capital markets unit at a bank. so some interesting perspectives we may find in that jury pool. of course, they have to get it down to 12 plus the alternates. hopefully that will happen sometime today, maybe within the next hour or two, after which we get opening arguments. just a reminder, this case involves insider trading by a fom former sac capital trader. he stands accused of conspiracy to commit securities fraud, and generating gains that averted losses of a quarter billion dollars. one final note, an important judge's ruling from earlier today is that a deposition taken by sac founder and owner steve cohen, who is kind of a key player in some of the sequencing of events in this case, will not be able to be introduced into evidence. that's something i think that the defense was hoping they would be able to introduce but they have not been permitted to. we won't be hearing that. >> that is very interesting. kate, thank you very much. we will get back to you as that jury pool is winowed down. meantime, the adp number today showing a big jump in construction jobs, up 48,000 in december. the question is, will that translate into a better than expected year for home builders? will randow joins me on the floor of the nyse. thanks for joining us. it was an exceptionally strong number in construction jobs, but does that necessarily translate into a better year for housing? >> i think it does. ultimately one of the key constraints with home builders has been a lack of labor supply, among others. we saw over the last year two million jobs were added according to the adp data, only 10% of which were construction. now we are seeing this big jump, 48,000 jobs added in december, relative to only about 238 for adp numbers as a whole. this is a great thing. >> you have been bullish on the home builders. you were early on that call. so far you have been right. in that sector, which stocks are you perhaps the most bullish on? >> i'm the most bullish on we like i guess special value or special situation names. brookfield residential properties is one of our favorite names in this space. we think that could be a double over the next two years and probably into the high 20s this year as they unlock their portfolio of grossly undervalued land. another name is d.r. horton. that's more of a large builder among the larger caps. what's interesting about that name, people think first home home buyers have gone away. a lot of it has been distressed has pushed them out and other reasons, but end of the day, i think the name is hated and will become less hated and more loved. >> you like william lyon homes as well. before we let you go, interest rates bumping up against 3% which obviously is not skyrocketing. however, that translates generally speaking into higher mortgage rates. how much of a head wind will that be for housing? >> each 50 basis point increase could equate to 10% less affordable home. right now, we're at 25% more affordable than we have been since the 1980s. it really comes down to job growth. right now anything about household incomes, they are only 1% higher than the median since 1980. if we get real job growth, housing stocks are going higher. >> thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. we will talk about housing again because diana olick is here with a very unique slice of life from the front lines. diana? >> reporter: yesterday, we took you to an atlanta area foreclosure auction where the bidders could only see the outside of the houses that they were buying. today, they got to go in and we went along with them. we'll show you what we saw coming up next. >> look forward to that. plus, a new super bug that is scaring doctors, nurses, patients, pretty much everybody. we'll talk about what's being done to try and stop that new strain. more "power lunch" in two minutes. 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that was pretty easy to break into. >> our assessments can be as much as plumbing is stolen so you will see damage to the sheetrock, plumbing taken out, you will see electrical taken out on our extreme conditions, sometimes ceilings have been falling in. >> reporter: what have you had to do to get into houses? i have been told you can actually go through the doggy door? >> we use doggy door access when we need to. you have window access and you have the doors themselves, sometimes in the worst conditions of homes, you will have literally windows that don't exist or doors that have been busted open. >> reporter: let me ask you about the dangers. what could you possibly encounter and how do you protect yourself? >> the worst danger you will have is through a squatter, somebody residing inside the property that shouldn't be there in the first place. typically a lot of our drivers or assessors will go and actually carry weapons on them. >> reporter: sweet had some amazing stories to tell. he has crawled through doggy doors, he has crawled through basement windows, barely three feet wide. he has found squatters on the premises. he's broken into over 3,000 homes in his career and he set off to look at the more than 130 properties that just key bought alone yesterday. so he has plenty of work ahead of him. as for the trade here, they bought this home for $80,000 at auction. sweet says it will take about $20,000 to get it back up into good shape so they can rent it, then they will sell it to an investor for about $130,000, net profit on the one home, $30,000. but again, they bought 130 properties just yesterday. that's one small investor. blackstone was at the auction as well. they likely bought many more than that. sue? >> two quick questions. one, do they have to pony up with all the cash completely for these properties before they get them, and do they do most of the work themselves to increase the profit when they then flip the home? >> reporter: this has actually become a well-oiled machine. we talked about it years ago that they were trying to find people to rehab and maintain them and manage them once they rented out but they are putting all cash into these, number one. number two, they have entire teams. when i say they have 130 homes to see today, it's not just kyle sweet. they have a team of dozens of people on the ground here in atlanta. they will go to every one of those homes today. there was a locksmith here today. there was an assessor here today to look at all the parts of the home that need to be redone. they will remodel the homes themselves. they have that in-house. not all investors have that but most of the big ones do. that's how they keep the costs down. they get them done quickly, they turn them around to rent and sit and wait for the profit. >> great story. thanks so much. appreciate it. let's go uptown to seema mody for a market flash. >> check out shares of astra zeneca moving higher. the medicine was co-developed with bristol-myers squibb but astra-zeneca bought them out last year. shares up fractionally on the day. chicago area hospitals, the latest to be hit by a so-called super bug, a deadly drug defying bacteria that kills tens of thousands of americans every year. here to tell us more about this super bug outbreak and the handful of drug makers racing to find a cure, dr. william shafner, professor of infectious diseases at vanderbilt. welcome to "power lunch." let me begin, doctor, what is the name of this bacteria, where does it come from and who and where does it hit hardest? >> it has a big long name. only we can pronounce it. it's a very resistant bacteria that's been bred, evolved because we use so much antibiotics and now it's come out and can affect patients, mostly patients in hospitals. >> mostly patients in hospitals, nursing homes as i understand it, v.a. facilities. how prevalent is it and who does it hit hardest? >> well, at the moment, it's not all that common but it's been increasing slowly but steadily, and we are looking around the country to see where it is and to curtail its spread. it affects mostly people who are very ill who have received a lot of antibiotics often in intensive care units, and you also mentioned nursing homes. >> how deadly is it, doctor, and can you either be exposed to the bacteria or actually carry it and not get sick? >> exactly. it can be deadly because it affects often people who are already very ill. and yes, you can carry it in your intestinal tract and be completely without symptoms, but you're capable of spreading it to others. >> let me bring in barbara ryan, who follows the pharmaceutical sector for us. are there any drugs you know of that are effective against this illness and are there any in the pipeline? >> well, i think the answer is no, and that's really what is scary. one of the challenges that we face is that the incentive for pharmaceutical companies really hasn't been there in the antibiotic field, and that's forced a lot of companies to leave that arena. there are companies that are focused on that. roche just did a big deal with a private company in switzerland focused on developing treatments for these so-called super bugs. merck, pfizer, still in the antibiotics research field. antibiotics are acute use drugs. they are used for a very short period of time. there is a very high hurdle to getting these drugs approved because we have a lot of safe and effective drugs and they are generic and therefore very, very cheap and the newer agents, because of the challenges that the doctor walked through in terms of resistance are often held in reserve because we want these drugs to be ultimately effective when we really need them, not to be used as first line therapy, and then quickly develop the resistance that we already see occurring. >> so drugs to fight this, i'm hearing you say, are some years away. >> that's true. yes. >> doctor, let me come back to you. so treatment does not sound like the better way to fight this strain of unpronounceable bacteria. you did a beautiful job pronouncing it. i was hoping i didn't have to and you saved me. how do you prevent it? is it hand washing? what is it? >> yes, prevention is key, of course. we are trying to prevent all hospital associated infections, everything from good disinfection processes to actual rigorous hand hygiene by everyone who works in the hospital. as regards treatment, we're having to reach back into the older medicine cabinets and reactivate antibiotics that we haven't used for a long time, some of which may be a little bit more toxic. so it's an uncomfortable situation. prevention is the key. >> doctor, thank you very much for walking us through it. barbara ryan, great to hear from you. sue? >> thank you both so much. >> terrific conversation. small cap stocks were on fire in 2013, well outperforming their big cap rivals. will that incredible run continue in 2014? how to play it. plus -- >> coming up, power pitch. startups give us their 60-second pitch. we give you insight into the fast-paced world of venture capital. >> is your product something that really helps people quit smoking? 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>> i'm curious about the marketing expenses and how he gets this in front of people with a lot of the noise out there with both herbal remedies and many pharmaceuticals that are advertising to the space. >> joe? >> quitting smoking is one of the most difficult things i ever did. i know a lot of people would invest money into products that will help them quit. it will be interesting to see how effective this product is. >> i think it's great to have a healthy alternative out there to whether chemically sort of processed nicotine replacement products. at the same time, he's been moving so fast, i would like to know where he will get the money for the next leg of growth. let's bring him in. matt, come sit down. let's ask you a few questions. great to meet you. >> great to meet you, too. >> joe -- >> what kind of dollars do you think it would take to make this message really resonate in the public and get the word of your product out there? >> the most effective marketing for us has been the free sample program. when i put it up when i first started selling because i wanted everybody to try a cup of quit tea before making the decision to buy and go ahead with it, i was doing about 50 a week by hand. it quickly went viral and i have been sending 10,000 samples a month. >> chris? >> do you envision that eventually you must be retail to grow and succeed and you will have to cut a deal there? >> it's in whole foods in the grocery department. some of the regions right now. it's on walgreens.com. it's really starting to expand in the retail market. >> can you talk about any either behavioral or scientific research that supports tea and your product as something that really helps people to quit smoking? >> there is actually a lot on the substitution strategy of quitting smoking. it's all about reconditioning the habit to replace it with something else and there is going to be triggers for you to want to smoke the rest of your life. but eventually, you can change those triggers to do something else like go make a cup of herbal tea. >> it says on the side of the box, repeat for at least nine weeks. so after nine weeks, is that the point at which you feel you might be, for want of a better word, cured of wanting to smoke? >> i put nine weeks on there because there is a lot of research that suggests that you can create a new habit within nine weeks. >> it's profitable? >> it's profitable. >> how much capital do you think you will need if you really want to grow? >> i don't think i will need too much. a quarter million people have tried it already. very quickly, that could reach a lot more people. there are 40 million smokers in the u.s. >> okay. guys, you heard what matt had to say. now we need to work out whether you are in or whether you are out on quit tea. joe, you first. >> this seems like a bit of a holistic tea. that market is very, very crowded. i think that your consumer is very limited in the time span, especially if you are suggesting nine weeks of use, and i think another reason is i just think quit tea is a bad name. i'm out. >> what about you, chris? >> i'm very intrigued by this idea. it's not -- he's not pitching a chemical solution. he's pitching a behavioral one, which of course could go into other places of addiction, everything else. i'm impressed by the young man, that's profitable and self-funded for two years, and though i've got a lot of big questions, i would spend time with this guy. i'm in. >> it can be used as a supplement to other various measures you are taking to try and quit smoking. you know what, these days, i'm not a smoker but i have friends who are and they all say it's increasingly hard to find places whether it be an eating place or public place to be able to smoke. i think the regulatory environment certainly supports trying to quit. i'm going to say i'm in. okay? you've got one out and two in. matt, what's your reaction? >> i appreciate the vote of confidence and i'm really excited you guys had me on to get the word out about quit tea. >> thank you so much. also to our panelists, joe and chris. that, folks, is today's power pitch. >> you heard what the panel had to say but we want to hear from you. are you in or out on quit tea? log on to powerpitch.cnbc.com or tweet your thoughts wi with #powerpitch. talking about power, everyone in my native land, my father's native land, norway, is now theoretically a millionaire, even the people in his hometown. that's because the sovereign wealth fund over there in norway has hit a new all time high due in part to high oil and gas prices. the fund also has lots of stock and bond investments that haven't hurt. the fund is worth $828 billion. the population of norway is just over five million people. you do the math, it works out to, what, about $1.3 million for every norwegian. sue? >> not bad. thanks, ty. let's get back to the markets right now. stocks are kind of mixed today after yesterday's big move up in the dow. can the gains from 2013 continue and where are the best places to make money in the market this year? here with us at the nyse is cnbc market analyst kenny polcari and from minneapolis, jeff brewer, ceo of the brewer group. jack, i will start with you. first of all, happy birthday. we are so glad you could spend your birthday with us here on "power lunch." great to see you again. >> thank you, sue. >> let's start with what you're doing in the new year in terms of market moves and allocating capital for your clients. do you think we are going to have a pretty decent year in terms of equity gains? >> yes, i do. we remain very bullish in the health care sector. some of our stocks have really rebounded, they pulled back a bit late in the fourth quarter of 2013, but we think with obamacare and the continuation of the improvements there, that we will have some substantial gains. we are very excited about that. we also like europe. i think there's a lot of opportunity in the financial sector in europe. i think if we continue to see a recovery there, that those stocks will also perform very well. >> you know, jack is one of many that we have talked to that have been bullish now on europe and it's been a correct call so far. >> right. i agree. i think we have been talking about that a number of times. we said it, if you believe in this global recovery, certainly europe is a place where people should have some investments. i also think here in the states, we go back to us at home, i think next year, this 2014 is going to be a good year for large caps, kind of this back to basic mentality of investing that i have where people now are getting much more comfortable once again with equity investing and much more comfortable with individual names, so therefore, i think big americana industrial tech names are really going to do well this year. >> jack, what about yield? i know a number of your clients are concerned about income, concerned about yield. where are you finding that for them at this point? >> it's a tough environment right now. we are also investing pretty heavily in high yield and high yield space. and we are also staying bullish on municipalities. we think last year was a very poor year in the market for munis and going into 2014, i think if you keep the quality high and you invest in high quality munis you can get that extra yield in your portfolio. >> thanks, guys. appreciate it very much. happy birthday again, jack. >> thank you, sue. to the bond market now. rick santelli tracking the action at the cme after a ten year auction that got a hook. how's the market doing now? >> it was a hook and if you look at the ten year chart, you will see we're up five basis points. here's what everybody i asked on the floor answered indirectly. if you look back to the july historic lows, since then, we have only had two, yes, only two actual closes where 70% cash dealers had a 3% handle. this may be the third. that speaks volumes about how infatuated we are with 3% and investment grade corporates, we had ten deals at $12 billion yesterday. we have five deals looking to be $6 billion today. g.e. capital corp figures prominently in today's supply. back to you. >> rick, thank you very much. forget the nsa. auto makers are now tracking you in your car. we will explain that one and explain what it may mean. plus, microsoft narrows the ceo search but one thing is for sure here. mulally is out. who's in? 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[ male announcer ] the all new cadillac cts, the 2014 motor trend car of the year. welcome back to "power lunch." we want to show you some video of aubrey lee price, the georgia banker who allegedly faked his own death in 2012 after allegedly stealing millions of dollars from investors in a bank in georgia. he was in court today. police arrested him last week after pulling him over because his car windows were tinted too dark. price entered a not guilty plea this morning and despite all the money he's accused of stealing, he has said he has no money for an attorney, so one was appointed for him. a number of investors also showed up for the hearing. guess what, price is being held without bond pending his trial on federal bank charges. remember, of course, that he was featured on an episode of cnbc's "american greed, the fugitive." that's the story on price. let's go to seema mody for a market flash. let's take a look at shares of mcdonald's, at session lows right now. the fast food chain was downgraded by wells fargo to market perform from outperform while reducing its price target to $102 from $108 a share. the firm says the company has lost market share in the u.s. in three of the last four months. through november, shares down about 1.3%. sue? >> seema, thank you. bob pisani with quick market check. we mentioned that health care and financials were big winners. a couple groups are struggling. i want to put up the luxury retailers. they've had a tough time of it this year. movado, kors, all to the downside. another company with tough times in the retail, jc penney. they said they were pleased with their holiday performance period, but that's not good enough here. they reaffirmed the forecast but didn't give any specific numbers and everybody said gee, why didn't they tell us what the numbers were if they were so pleased. i got questions about very large put activity in jc penney just prior to the close yesterday. apparently it was three times bigger. that's raised questions about did anybody know anything. i don't know what the answer to that is, but we did know an announcement was coming. they hadn't trumpeted anything prior to that. it's quite possible somebody made a guess. tough call on this one. >> stock down 8%. that's a big hit. thanks. appreciate it. one thing we do know, ford's alan mulally will not be microsoft's new ceo. who will be? 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they will go anywhere to get the revenue. >> it's interesting because state laws in california don't allow you to just collect it and use it for anything. you got to plow it back into the system to regulate it. what's more interesting here is tens of thousands of employees work in silicon valley and live in san francisco and take these shuttles. it's the same thing in new york city. >> we have shuttles that bring people out from new york city to here. >> we do. >> ever been on it? >> i have, too many times. i can't go there. can't go there. 35,000 people, though, that's a lot of people. lot of revenue. >> let's squeeze in the last one. big brother really watching. gm, ford, chrysler, foreign auto companies reportedly tracking and storing data from customers' cars through their on-board navigation systems, i guess like onstar and others, supposed to assist with traffic accidents, roadside emergencies. but how do drivers feel if your actions may be tracked? does it bother you? >> i always thought they would have the capability and they could potentially use it. the problem that i have with this is you can't opt out. if you have a car that's made by one of these auto makers in the report and they are using that data for these purposes, there is nowhere that you can say i want to raise my hand and say i want to opt out of this. >> i use realtime traffic apps. i would rather they track my data so i know where the traffic accidents are. >> all right, thank you very much. fed minutes could be market moving. we've got them at the top of the hour. we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ tires screech ] chewley's finds itself in a sticky situation today after recalling its new gum. 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