Would be my guess. I just give it to you mathematically. But with Interest Rates at 2 , and maybe they go to 3 , but you could argue with im talking about five and tenyear rates now, not fed funds. You could argue that multiples should be up at 25 times earnings. And pretty easily you could argue that. You do that math with any Earnings Growth and you get like 50 over the next few years. So i think theres a long way to go actually. You still have people now somebody trying to come out of the woodwork and saying, well, you know, maybe were kicking down the door of euphoria. Maybe were getting ahead of ourselves. Mark faber was on the program yesterday call for an of large avenue lanlg of selling, too much being put on the trump agenda, et cetera. You dont subscribe to any of that . I dont subscribe that this is a trump rally or things like that. I think its been pent up. I mean, the amount of cash and many2 has been rising. I think it was under 10 trillion. Now under 13 trillion. I think people were frozen for a long time on the election stuff. And theyve just been frozen. I have to laugh every time i hear the markets hitting new highs. I saw an article in the journal yesterday banks a new high after ten years. Housing may have been hitting new highs now for every day because every day even if your house goes side way it is you own the house you get rental income from it. Which in a sense is saying its hitting a new high. When you deal with stocks, you dont get the operating earnings from the company. So you it just feels like the stock has to go higher or not higher. But theyre earning money every day. Businesses are basically doing okay, not doing as well as ceos and politicians like in some cases. But sure feels like the economy is okay in here. And when you look at the Interest Rate environment, it just feels like the one asset class that has lagged and funny you say people are euphoric on stocks. I see the opposite. I see a lot of chicken little skies falling only as it pertains to business. I dont like to say stocks. I dont see the nervousness in reales state or others a stet classes. I hear a lot of nervousness frankly on this show and things like that. It doesnt feel that bad to me. So what then whats the payoff for folks . What would you be invested in . What would you be buying in today if you still think theres that kind of highway ahead of us . Its hard not its like what you want to invest and what you dont want to invest in. On the Positive Side i would want to be certainly i think financials have further to go which surprise some people. Theyre up to like 12 or 13 times earnings. Still trading 25 cheaper than the s p. And i think the fed are raise rates one or two times next year. I kind of doubt three. I think thats going to be a fascinating thing to watch donald trying to inflate and grow the economy and yellen can brick his balloon any time she wants to by raising fed funds a few times. This will be fun to watch. What if youre underestimating the fed . At 1 00 youre going to hear from fed chair yellen herself today. We heard from jay powell, hes a Voting Member with Steve Liesman yesterday who said, three seems about right. Maybe more. Maybe less, depending on how the situation sort of bears itself out. Plays out. Yeah. The thing on the fed, i dont really care as much about one day money. I think theyll raise rates a couple of times. The thing that ive taken a step back recently and started looking at global Interest Rates. I do find funny that everyone says our rates have to go higher and we have to get rates up. I do care a lot about the five and tenyear treasury. Thats where i take my cue, how it affects americans. But our rates are already higher than sweden, switzerland, japan, germany, england, france. The ones that blow me away is our five and tenyear treasuries are 50 to 100 basis points higher than spain and italy. And its hard to imagine this world of globalization, i dont think were a riskier credit. I dont think were growing less well than them. So how are their rates, you know, 1 1 2 and 2 for their tenyear treasuries and our rates are 2 1 2 , i dont see how our rate is going to go 3 , 3 1 2 with the dollar where it is. Its going to be interesting to watch. I think the fed will go a little more slowly than they talk. Thats been traditionally what theyve done. One or two times in the fed funds are in the cards because i think, once again, were doing kind of well. But to tell american voters, i guess, that were doing so well, we can slow things down which is kind of what fed raises do. Theyre contractionary. I think theyre going to do one in march and then wait and see. It will be another quarter or two and maybe we get good economics, maybe we dont. I think things will keep limping along in a positive way. Enough on that. I would love to open it up for debate. Kevin oleary is joining us as well today. Hes selling financials. Kevin, what do you make of andy chases thesis on where stocks can go . Do they matchup with yours . I agree on andy on many of the bullish sentiments of the overall markets but id like to focus in on financials because prethe president s speech on the 28th by the way i thought was like many others, the most president ial hes ever sounded which is encouraging for the markets the next day as we saw. Focusing on financials the assumption going into that discussion around financials, there were going to be two engines for growth. In money centered banks and g d goldman sachs. We were going to unlock the harness in two ways. One was going to be deregulating the doddfrank, lets call that a ball and chain on them because it was going to let them put more leverage on the Balance Sheets like the good old days, if you want to call it that. Or a derivative of that. And the other was going to be between two and three fed hikes which is always good for banks. What i heard, i heard three things i didnt like regarding financials. Again, staying on that is an engine of growth for the s p. Why i would reduce my position after the speech. I did not hear the agenda on bank reform on doddfrank was anywhere near 2017 target. In fact, i saw it lose momentum. My feeling now is less than 20 chance that gets tabled. He didnt even reference it in the speech and i would look around the table, call my contacts, nobody is excited about that whole move anymore. Secondly, im not sure at all that the rate hikes are as bullish and youve even suggested that, andy, that probably not. Maybe two, maybe 50 basis points. And the thing that bothered me the most was i dont see a parallel path with health care on reduction of Corporate Tax rates, which is the mothers milk for all s p earnings. All of a sudden thats a 2018 story. Im like that robot in lost in space, warning red leader, warning red leader. All of a sudden the great Growth Drivers are taken out of the story. Whats your take on that . On the bank first on the bank side, they were in the penalty box and they have been in the penalty box coming out of litigation from 08 and 09. Everyone loves to hate wall street. I think they got sucked in the political process little bit. I think this first bump wasnt so much on fed funds going up and we both know all that those raises accrue to the banks. It doesnt accrue to the guy with the checking account. The banks take all that money and float. So and i think the litigation side getting behind them so that banks can just do a little bit, i mean, im not a little bit innuendo of government regulations of being lifted. I think theyll do better and get back to 13, 14 times earnings if the market is at 17 and 1. Still trade at a slight discount but a little bit of Earnings Growth, which i think they will get. I think theyre good for another multiple point going from 12 all kind of like 12 times earnings, going up to 13, Something Like that. 45e health care i think is going to rip in here, is my gut. Thats another sector in the penalty box. Kevin, even weiss who is sitting here was rolling his eyes before the show. Oleary, get off the bearish footba financials already. Weiss wants to get in on this conversation. Lets have a little debate. Can i first absolutely. I want to see weiss. Where is he at on the regional banks . I think those are toxic wastes right here. I know. And youve been saying that. Weve disagreed in the banks for three or four months now. Ive been very long financials. And youve been on shark tank. So, kevin, first first of all, i want to interject, youre probably making more on shark tank than weiss was making in the financials. I dont think so. Leucadia. Im going to give kevin some respite here. Wint the go back to andy and the market going up 50 . I think it will go up to 25 pe because rates are where they are. Andy, we didnt get to a 25 pe when the tenyear was at 1. 3. So how are we going to get to a 25 pe now when rates are going up . I think they go up three times but i think i dont even know where to begin on that. I just think thats ludicrous. Youre going towards the end of a cycle, economic cycle. Right now were on one of the longest economic cycles we have. Its only going to be extended because we have tax reform coming because we may have infrastructure coming. Thats why its being extended. Otherwise youre so long in the tooth here youre not getting to a 25 pe. The only way you get to a 25 pe is if the economy completely crashes and the earnings go down and the price the price stays the way it is. That wont happen. So, look, it does trend up. It does go up. Financials are the place to be. And by the way, you also talk about the spread with Interest Rates, european rates are so low because of qe. Because the banks have no choice but to buy sovereign theres. So it doesnt have anything reflection. Should not be a benchmark for where our rates are trading. So thats the difference there. Thats been the way for quite some time, three years. Andy . Yeah. Well, i mean, i looked back at 50 years at the tenyear treasury and i always flipped the fraction and look at earnings over price, not pe. And for 50 years those things track pretty darn closely. And it all start eddie verging five, ten years eight years ago. I dont know why companies, a buck on 17 is 6 . Earning 6 bucks right now on 100 on a buying a business. And youre earning 2 bucks, 2 1 2 bucks by buying a bond. And businesses grow over time. And if you really think rates are going to keep going three, four, five, i get why wow you say i didnt see three or four, five. I said three times. Earning three bucks on a bond and youre earning six bucks on a business, i would rather own that business, right . And i think people forget if you im not disagreeing. You havent eewhen was the last time you saw 25 pe in the market on a sale. The last time the market was over priced in 2000. Were at 30 times earnings. And earning exactly. Well, but your door number two was a tenyear treasury at 6 . Now your door number two is 2 1 2 to 3 . Hes not saying whats going to happen once we go up 50 in three years. Hes just making a case that we could get there. Talking about the case getting there that the markets should be trading at 25 pe and that just doesnt happen. It only happens right before a blowoff. I also take issue with the fact that hes saying everybody is so negative in the market. Thats not true. Youve got very bullish in the market otherwise you wouldnt have the market levels that its had. So, yes, theres always a wall of worry, particularly when markets move up like they have. Markets are at normt normal multiples. Normal multiples are 1 times on the market. Thats is average pe. Im liking at kind of the current, next 12 months kind of a thing. And youre looking at a little bit of trailing. But you can debate multiples. Ill take 15. 7 times on the forward. Kevin, do you want to do you want to come back . My issue is i cant recall in the last four cycles when rates started to go up and i call three rate hikes a trend, okay . I dont see pes expanding in those periods ever. So the idea that we go to a 25 pe while the fed is raising rates not on this planet. I havent seen it happen on the planet earth. Maybe somewhere else. That never happens. So what do you think what do you think the five and tenyear treasury are going to do over the next year or two . Im guessing they dont move a whole lot. Thats my guess. Every time the fed made contraction moves on oneday money the long end of the curve has flattened out a little bit and i think investors will take their queue more from where a five or tenyear is trading rather than the fed funds rate. Thats amy gut. Boy, im still seeing pretty negative look at the amount of catch in m2 and the core of Balance Sheets. It feels like people are still pretty pessimistic to me. Thats my gut. You can judge that a number of different ways, to the cash, thats still on the sidelines, to andys point. People are looking at where bond yields are and saying, well, maybe thats a reflection even though others would suggest theres too much Monetary Policy in the system. Thats a reflection, josh, of i dont see pes i had to hear him again. Sorry. Weiss was playing your voice back, kevin, he was so enamored with what you were say sxwlg we must be a point on inflexion because nobody can agree on anything. I like this conversation. I agree with kevin. Theres nothing thats clear. Josh . This is andy. One comment i would make, you know, cap rates, which i was looking Interest Rates, cap rates, i look at market multiples, cap rates 20 years ago were up at eight. Now theyre at four. Thats the equivalent of the market pes doubling and that hasnt happened. Most people think of Interest Rates dropping as helping the person with the Credit Card Debt or mortgage debt. It usually inflates asset prices in a pretty big way. And stocks havent had the multiple inflation thats occurred in some of these other Asset Classes like real estate. I just it feels like, when the money comes into the dollars and i think the dollar will stay strong given our rates are higher than the rest of the developed world, it goes into treasuries and real estate. It hasnt trickled into Johnson Johnson and apple. It just feels like sooner or later the love date wall street stuff will slow down. And thats my gut. I want to open it up on the desk. It does feel like we maybe were not at the pouint of maximum debate on both sides if we think were overstretched or not stretched enough. But maybe to andys point, to some respects were getting there. What do you think . You the take it from the extremes of the faber to extremes of jerry siegel saying i thought this thing was on thin ice and now i dont think so anymore and that was after the speech. I think its a mistake to look at the stock market overall. Ive been saying this for weeks and it becomes more and more true. There is such a dispersion amongst valuations within industry sector, between industry sectors. I can find stocks to sell on any day. I can find stocks to buy on any day. Im not worried about where the s p 500 is going from here because, frankly, i dont know. But our point though, jim, is that a lot of people look at that as the sort of benchmark hk barometer of where we are going and you could make that statement no matter what the stock market is doing. Well, theres always stock somewhere in the market you should be buying. Thats not always true. There are times you cant find things to buy. When you get into a euphoria phase thats where everything is priced at the 25 multiple that andy is talking about or steve, even a multiple before you get to 25. There are stocks out there that are trading. Good companies that are trading at low teens and yet we talk about the market being at 18, 19 times earnings. Its wrong discussion. Go out there and do what we like to do. Dpibd Good Companies at great prices. Tell me one of them right now. Sure. How about verizon. And we can debate it. But on the valuation and on the size of the company and their reach, thats a good one. Another one that maybe isnt as cheap, alphabet. The peg ratio there is something worth buying. Look at peg ratio always, not just the multiple but multiple versus the growth rate so i think debates about average pe ratios are academic and very disleading because theres never been a bull market in history that stopped because weve reached a certain pe level and theres never been a bear market thats ended because weve gotten so low at a certain pe. The pe is unknowable. If you want to talk about longterm average pe for the last 25 years, 89 of the time weve sold at a level above it. Its completely irrelevant from a daytoday standpoint. From a longer term perspective, to me, there is no doubt that youre not going to make your asuffer shup shuns if youre mostly u. S. Stocks from today forward. Its just not going to happen. Im sorry. However, if you can put together a portfolio with International Stocks selling at much lower levels, almost no confidence in those markets whatsoever, if a few things go right or a lot of things that a lot of people say is going wrong, dont happen, youre going to out perform. We took action in january. Were slightly underweight u. S. Stocks. Its literally the most uncomfortable Asset Allocation move you could make right now given whats going on but we feel we wille be rewarded. Not tomorrow. Cheap and going up are not synonymous. So we have to look at i think so this in longer term time frames and when you do that, you have to think about expected returns. You have to think about the starting multiples, what youre paying for it. If youre trade iing, its irrelevant. Andy, youre on the other side of that, too. What you say and you can characterize it more for us, very domestic now in terms of where youre putting your money to work. Yeah. Yeah. I also want to say i dont want to come over too bullish. There are lots of issues in the world but i laugh when i hear these things because i think i said this once on the show. My grandfather built a bomb shelter in the 60s at his house. And in the 70s impeaching president s in vietnam. Theres always been stuff going on in the world. But on the scale of things, i dont feel like things are any worse today than they were in a long time. But going back to diversifying international, i agree international stuff is cheaper. But i tend to use real estate analo analogies. I just would not buy, you know, a department in berlin or london or paris or Something Like that, london, but because then you own in euros. And when you go to sell it in three to five years, im going to repatriaeat tratriate our mo dollars. I think the euro is going to go lower. I think the yen is going to go lower. You could be right but, again, the reason why International Stocks work as a diversifier is because of the currency risk. Currencies tend to trend in regimes of between five and seven years. So if you think about the 0307 period the euro out performed the dollar. European stocks did great. Weve had the reverse for almost eight years now. I dont know when that changes but the whole point is it works because theyll differ and currency is a big part of the reason why. I like the diversification side of it, josh. I think all the viewers know this as well, scott. The likely hood of regulation rollback in europe has to be like that versus the likelihood that were going to get regs rolled back here. That is whats going to make things better for the Financial Institutions and its one of those rare times when im taking the other side of kevvin olear. I think, kevin, thats one of the reasons that financials move a lot higher so, in other words, im with andy on that because i think they will move higher. I hate to be against you, kef. But i think they will move higher because were going see that regulation rollback. And when we finally do get the tax treatment changed, which might not be until 2018, when we get it a lot of those regionals are going to rock on that because they pay the highest tax rates. I want to go back to this issue around real estate that andy brought up using it as an index to look at markets overall because im a real estate guy, too. Yes, sir. Historically when you bought real estate at an 8 cap and you sold it at under 5, you made a lot of money. Thats some of how the greatest wealth has been created in north america in the last 100 years. Were now sitting where prime real estate in new york city is trading at 3 1 2 cap, which we every metric, no matter how far back you go, is always a top. And the reason thats occurring is german, canadian, asian money coming in and buying these properties at ridiculous prices with the assumption that does not include the Capital Expenditure you have to do to keep the place looking nice. Youre talking about the lowest cap rates in history. Andy, how can that make money for anybody . Help me out there, buddy. No, im with you. That was my point. I mean, i think real estate is more in the eighth or ninth inning. I dont think real estate is going down. Why would you sell something paying 3 1 2 or 4 if door number two is a treasury at 2 1 2, right . Because occasionally the landlord can raise the rents. Look at rents versus the stream of interest and ill take 3 1 2 or 4 that might grow at 1 or 2 . And i dont think real estate is going down. I just think its had a much bigger move. And i do find that ironic that if you leased a building to a fortune 500 company you definitely would be getting a 3 1 2, 4 cap, right . But if you bought the same business, earning six bucks. One over market multiple, and i just think ceos can raise their earnings. 5 , its nothing great. Its not what businesses like. I think ceos can raise their earnings 5 much more easily than a landlord Going Forward can raise rents. Landlords can raise rents 1 , 2 . You get 3 1 2 or 4 . Buy the business with the same tenant and get 6 bucks growing at 5 . I think real estate has had a much bigger move i mean, i could get a long discussion on this than equities have. Yeah. I was going to say were going to leave it there. Really good conversation. Thanks for spending so much time with us. Well talk to you again soon. Thanks. Andy chase, Morgan Stanley wealth management. Heres what else kevin oleary is sticking with us, by the way coming up on the halftime report. Comcast gets in. The stock jumping again today. Opportunity or run away . Thats next. 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We heard from General Motors ceo mary barrow this week that they were making progress on a potential deal. Now it appears it will be announced monday. Thats when we will find out what the final price tag here is. Most believe its 1. 8 to 2 billion range although it remains to be seen. Obligations General Motors admitted to in terms of pensions and opel and box haul but its important because General Motors essentially saying were throwing in the towel when it comes to europe. Never made money there since the year 2000 on and if you lose 15 billion theyre finally saying enough, were out. Were not going to grow good money after bad money. You know were coming to you. I dont know if phil is still on and wants to give me feedback on this but basically i wouldnt say theyre throwing in the towel. They were right about to make money on this. What they threw the towel on is politics in europe. They didnt like brexit. They didnt know what was going on in france and europe. They said enough is going right in north america and china we dont need the headache. I think they were right on the cusp of making money in europe. Im sad to see it go. They were right on the cusp of making money in europe but i have to be honest with you. Having covered this company in 20 years, do you know how many times i heard this company saying were right on the cusp of doing it in europe and we have new management there. Thats fair. To your point politics is a big part and the other part of the problem here is the labor in europe is a mess. An absolute mess in terms of shutting down plants when they need to be shut down and that umt mautly was really what was crippling General Motors in europe. Good luck to psa group. These guys not the Healthiest Company in the world. Much better than they were a few years ago but they were on deaths doorstep not too long ago. Now they can try to see if they can make ago of it with opel and box haul. 4 1 2 dividend yield. Youre supposed to own it regardless of whats going on in europe. True. Good point. Phil, thanks, man. You bet. Thanks for sticking around for the conversation as well. Nobody else i know you dont like gm. Im stick where is this stock at the beginning of the year . Geez, i want to say 34. I might have that wrong. Maybe the chart will come up here. Im not far off. Up 10 year to date. I had a very good First Quarter earnings report. Youve had february sales come in that were very nice. Idea of peak autos is done, off the table. Were fine. Breaking news with Steve Liesman, senior economics reporter. Steve . Thanks very much, scott. Fed vice chair you stan fischer speaking here at the boost school of u. S. Monetary policy conference. Making no comments on current fed policy but he is talking about a Current Issue politically here. He is warning of the risks of a rulebased fed policy which is something that some republicans in congress have favored. He says, a committee, the way the fed operates now, makes better policy than a rule would. The rule is useful in terms of making that policy. More Central Banks around the world have adopted a committeebased approach rather than a Single Person or a rules based approach. And the reason is because, he says, a committee provides diverse opinions, especially in the united states, from all around the different economic areas and Economic Industries of the country. Finally, he says a committee can react faster, be more creative than a rule can be. Doesnt dismiss the idea of a rule which is something put forward by john taylor, preimminent stanford economics professor. And also liked by many people in congress. Stan fischer taking a swipe at that and saying thats not the best way to make Monetary Policy. In half an hour were going the have an important speech by fed chair janet yellen. We will gauge whether or not she leans against or in favor of the policies that have been put out by several fed officials in the last several days which have prompted the market to believe a rate hike is coming this month. Scott . Maybe he just doesnt want to front run the fed chair yourself knowing in less than 30 minutes shes going to be giving her own speech. As you said, steve, do you feel like weve reached the point now where march is a formality rather than a question . I think the fed chair would have to lean substantially against it right now. What the fed does not want to do, having reversed the markets opinion remember if you look at this fed proshlt chart we were down with the probability below 10 and even for a long while there just in the 25 range. Then in a few days this week, a couple speeches by several key fed officials, that probability rocketed up in a way ive rarely seen before to now its in that 75 and what were suggesting, scott, is that its a foregone conclusion percentage point and i think, look, theres one other thing that can change it which is next friday you got that jobs report. If thats very weak and there were revisions downward, yeah, then you could change the possibilities and the probabilities but the market would do that itself. By the way, beginning today the fed enters a new and extended blackout period of ten days and not seven days. What you you hear from janet yell season going to be the last word on fed policy before that meeting from the fed. We will be listening for certain, less than 30 minutes time. Steve liesman, live with us. You guys have a comment on this issue . Whether you think its a foregone conclusion in march and market appears to be okay with that . At the beginning of this week it would have been a surprise. The fed does not like surprises. They spent all week communicating this. So it would not be a surprise. They are clearly going out. They put it out through the wall street journal as well. Obviously they want to get ahead of whats going to be happening politically in europe. So this makes sense to get this done now. If they dont its a mistake. I thought they were going to go when a week ago, no expectation. And you had the tenyear down 10. 3. I think theyre going now. Now its a freebie. The tenyear go . Does it breakthrough 2. 6 . Depends on what the language is to know where its going to go afterwards. But, no, i think its at 2. 5 because its assuming its going to go. I think the earlier point though, forget about the tenyear, where does the long end go . Do we flatten further . That was the thing this is the thing that haunts you at night if youre thinking about 07 and youre saying, the fed raises 13 times whatever it was from 04 to 06 and for some reason they cant get the long end to behave and act like theyre raising. Telegraphing everything that was to come. Thats probably more interesting to watch p t. Shape of the curve rather han the immediate price of the tenyear deal. Dow is up almost 5 in a month and nasdaq 100, 4 . Almost the same as the s p. First, michelle carusoa russo c . Coming up at the top of the hour, regulation. Cutting the costs of drugs and the epipen fallout. Exclusive with mylan ceo Heather Bresch. Another interview, the man who oversees vanguards 4 trillion is telling us why hes getting nervous about this record breaking rally scott was just talking about. And janet yellen set to take questions and answers about the economy could very well be a market mover considering everybody is expecting a rate hike next month. 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I dont know if you can borrow it yet because it hasnt is theled. This is a really important point. Im sure. Im saying it, so i think its pretty important. No, no. This is a small float. About time to get lunch . This is 200 million shares youre not one to talk. 200 million shares. If you think about that in terms of the relative size of all of the Asset Management that aint a lot of stock out there. This can go for a while. Think back to gopro, public at 24. Within three months, with un00 share. Didnt stay there but would you imagine you started shorting on day three . For it g it. Steak shack, 21, 98 a share in four months. Youve got to keep in mind, theres an artificial scarcity here. I dont know if you want to get run over by that. Kev, good points that josh makes. Stocks he mentioned held back up the point. What do you think . I got offered this stock but it was with a caveat to it i couldnt sell it for 90 days. I tried to borrow it to shorten my position, couldnt. I think that happened to a lot of people, too. I think this stock is. Reporter much like a gopro. Very much like a twitter, very much like a facebook. If i want to own this thing im going to wait 90 days until that lockup ends because a lot of the institutional stuff had the covenants on it. What is it, trading 70 times sales or something . Its ridiculous. Let me pose it to you this way. Just bear with me on this. If our are people so scarred at this point by whats happened with gopro and especially whats happened with twitter that theyre now just in general a lot of hater on this stock as were finding out on wall street of those who cover it and generally around the desk. Scott, its a 30 billion valuation. 40. Nobody is scarred. The company im saying the opinions on the stock now, nobody wants to touch it with a ten foot pole. Forget opinion. Look at the market value. Tells you everything you need to know. Right now the investor class is bullish on snapchat. Look at the price targets on the stock. So what. But to the point hes making people are looking t this not as twitter or gopro. Facebook. Theyre ignoring the first year where it was under water. Theyre saying this thing can go to 130. Ive got people calling in and saying buy this for me. I dont want to buy it. Its not a valuation. I wouldnt buy this. There is hype. Theres emotion to it. Momentum thats driving it. Institutional players keep dumping into it because they dont have big enough positions for it to matter. Theyre peeling out and retail coming in. So small. Best way to phrase it is can you imagine you dont own it and it is facebook and you had some opportunity to throw some of this in your book at 20 a share . That can change on its mind. Kevin, thank you. We will see you back here i hope soon. Take care, my friends. Kevin oleary. Costco, amd, in the blitz. First though, the dow 30 heat map. Take a look. There it is. Goldman is the best on a down day for the dow. 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Mr. Bullard specifically saying Economic Conditions have not changed since january to justify a march rate increase. He says using the march statement to set up a may rate increase is a, quote, more traditional approach. He says hes not sure that we can cite inflation as a reason for a march rate increase. He says the recent rise in equity i prices reflects expectations of tax overhaul and other fiscal changes. So basically, scottie, hes saying that Economic Conditions have not changed enough to justify a march rate increase which might come as a surprise to the market because theyve been thinking they will get a march rate increase. Which i think they could theoretically. Hes a Voting Member. Hes a Voting Member. He could get a descent. Exactly. This is interesting though, sue, thank you. Jay powell obviously told liesman on the inflation question, i think his exact words were were getting awfully close. Yep. So youll have a debate, do you have to be close enough that you think youre going to get there. To sues point, you could get a dissent. Bullard is not a Voting Member, im being told. I agree with your earlier comment. Its a chairpersons board. And Everything Else that goes on is basically commentary. If she wants to do it, thats whats going to happen at the end of the day. Drilling stock. John will break it down for us, tell you which one it is. Whats Critical Thinking like . A basketball costs 14. Whats team spirit worth . cheers whats it worth to talk to your mom . Whats the value of a walk in the woods . The value of capital is to create, not just wealth, but things that matter. Morgan stanley welcome back. Dr. J has made his way to the telestrator. We said its a driller. There it is. There it is. Ensco, judge. Basically from the october timeframe, september, october, until january this year, shares nearly doubled. But theyre still a far cry from where they were. Offshore drilling primarily. And today they stepped in. You can see these calls have moved up pretty dramatically today, virtually doubling from yesterday and now like i say, ill probably hold them at least a week. If this thing breaks through 10, looks like 12 is the next stop, turning that into a four times your money on this trade. Interesting stuff. Theres the movement, too, of about 2. 5 . Doc, all right. Make your way back here. All right. We also, before we close the week out, we think its only appropriate, for obvious reasons, we pay our respects to judge joseph wapner. No relation, by the way. Passed away last weekend. Age 97. He was laid to rest yesterday. The original, the one and only judge wapner. But we didnt say anything on monday. We were on to other things, but we didnt want to miss the moment to send our own pass the gavel to you. Pay our respects for obvious reasons. The gavel pass been passed. The nickname is for obvious reasons but it is just that, a nickname. 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See you around, giulia it is time for final trades. Mcdonalds tells the Advisory Group raise the price target and raise their estimates. What do we think . 127. 81. Look, theyre doing really good stuff. I think the shareholder response was tep id if only for the reason theyre addressing technology for the most part, which is fine but theyre not doing enough, in my opinion, and those at rbc, about the quality of the food. You can have the best delivery, app and all that. But if people arent in the food thats where youll run into a wall. I never heard those words put together. What . Quality and mcdonalds. You dont go there for quality. You go there for convenience. They could do a better job. Up their mcnugget game. Youre not paying that much more. Ill take your word for it. Youre not paying that much more for Something Like panera, chipotle. My final trade is health care seems to be moving. I like bichlt otech. I still think it goes. Another andy chase thing, overweight. I dont like biotech. No, i like biotech. Never just relentless. Go. What have you got . What have you got . Just poisoned the well. Give me a final trade. Give me a final trade oh, my god all right, all right. I still like the banks here. I disagree with the power lunch starts right now. Im brian sullivan, along with michelle carusocabrera, and wilfred frost. Welcome. Huge news friday. Krechlt o of mylan coming up. Right now, breaking news from the federal reserve. Lets get right to cnbc own Steve Liesman. Fed chair yellen, in no Uncertain Terms said a march rate hike would be appropriate if, when the Committee Meets later this month and judges the fed is on track to meet its goal. She goes on to say conditioned report, three rate hikes this year as far as she can tell. She says to markets, expect faster removal of the combination, aka rate hikes in 2017 than youve seen in the past couple
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