Tonight we have more people at a meeting for a candidate for president of the United States than any other candidates had. Thank you. John crowds like that are causing some to say that bernie is starting to look a little like obama 2007. My question to george and phil is that legit . Phil im going to disagree with george. It is not. It is sacrilegious. Three reasons why. Money, staff, strategy. 15 million today. Nothing to sneeze at. Hillary clinton has an and Team Hillary Clinton has an enormous team in states across the country that are pulling out data. Bernie sanders has a smaller team. Strategy, tell me what he does after new hampshire. That is what barack obama was able to do. On a level that nobody has seen before. Those are legitimate reasons, but none of them are right. You are off in the weeds. Lets get to the core issue, demographics. Barack obama was about demographics. He appealed to a lot of the same people, left, progressives college students, people in berkeley, california, cambridge. He also appealed to africanamericans by overwhelming numbers. 95 in every state. If not for that, Hillary Clinton would have been the democratic nominee. That is something bernie sanders, whatever happens, aint going to happen. He is lucky if he breaks 10 of the africanamerican vote. Phil 10,000 people is impressive. What he has been doing is impressive. Those are cities where people turn out. Madison is not a normal city. Look at the crowd. A great crowd. Not diverse. That is not the crowd you win in democratic primaries. John Hillary Clinton should be concerned someone else is drawing 15,000 people. It is not her. She raised a lot of cash yesterday. There are reports of some anxiety among mega donors. Why . The big money folks have a fever and the only prescription is more big dog. The thing is, bill clinton is going to wait until the fall to get out there. Is bill clinton the cure for what ails john he is often the cure for any situation politically speaking. He is a huge draw on the fundraising circuit. But there is a problem they have. That i already usa has. The same problem they had in 2012, rich democrats do not like super pacs. On principle, they dont like it did. In practice they dont like it. They are not going to like that under any circumstances. Bill clinton is not going to change their mind. Democrats are always going to be behind in super pac fundraising for those reasons. Bill clinton can help. He cant solve the problem. Phil here is my question, doesnt it this helps them when stories come out about how they are not going to be able to raise money . Isnt that helping them raise money . These are good stories. You scare democrats into donating. John you know what happens, priorities did not raise money for all of 2011 and for most of 2012 because a lot of democrats dismissed the republicans as a clown show. When mitt romney became the nominee and got closer to obama, that scared donors to start writing the checks. My point is to say if they the best thing is the motivation of fear, jeb bush is raising a lot of money . He could be the next president. That will cause democrats, rich liberals, to open their check books. Phil there has been a shakeup a lot of top talent has come in. Solved the problem . John our friend is in there. Guy is not a fundraising machine. He can help, but not solve the problem. Scott walkers people have announced their mountain will their man will announce on july 13. In two weeks, you can walk to see walker in waukesha. That coincides with president obamas visit today where walker greeted him on the tarmac and obama took a shot at him. His potential has always been rooted in his ability to appeal to the conservative grassroots and the gop establishment. With his lunges to the right like gay marriage and immigration, some are wondering if he is going to lose the general election to win the primary. Is walker in danger of squandering his crossover appeal . Phil no. As long as you can say i won a purple state when everybody was dumping everything they had on him, one of the bigger issue right now is on the donors side. We have seen it. There are big republican donors on gay marriage, immigration that would really like him to ratchet it back. He is not. Their money go somewhere else. John he is the leader in iowa. He is the front runner, an contestable. Incontestable. He knows the key to him becoming the nominee is to get the win on the board in iowa first. He has defensive game right now to try to hold iowa secure. Lock it down. The bush people think he is getting away with murder. It is frustrating. We think rubio is a threat. The bush people see walker as a threat. Right now they feel like he is getting a pass on all of these lunges to be right and his crossover appeal remains intact. They dont think it should. Theyre going to try to knock it down. Phil there is a feeling rubio is the top guy. You agree with that . John everywhere but in jeb world that is true. In fact right now, the focus is on walker. Phil rick perry met with the press today. And on the eve of the eve of july 4, he dropped a reference to the great uniter, the emancipator. Rick perry republicans have much to do to earn the trust of africanamericans. For too long, we republicans have been content to lose the black vote. We found we did not need it to win. When we gave up trying to win the support of africanamericans, we lost our moral legitimacy. As the party of lincoln. Phil why is rp pretending to be another rp, rand paul . John george . Quiet today. The events of recent days has put a premium on republicans trying to deal with the issue with race. That is one contextual thing. It is also the case rick perry a guy who had a problem in 2008 with a rock near his familys compound, which used to the n word, that came up in a previous campaign. Rick perry does not want that to come up again. He is trying to inoculate himself. It is a moment of high racial sensitivity. He got hit hard last time. He might be in for it again. Phil there is an interesting point. Decriminalize marijuana. Criminal justice reform, making this an issue, which democrats have glommed on to. He has a record to back pieces of this up. I have never seen him focus on it in such a way right now. It is interesting if he will pursue this, given what everybody is focused on nationally. John the following graphic is a little psychedelic. To borrow from Justice Scalia just ask the nearest hippie. Everyone loves the grateful dead. The important question pollsters finally asked on their farewell tour, we explain this phenomenon on our website. The dead songs are about freedom. Drugs aside, what is it that makes the dead uniters . Phil i was going to stick with drugs. I would preface this by saying the grateful dead, my phase was in sixth in seventh grade. Phish and widespread panic replace them. Rowers were those were mine. So i dont want to steal this from you. I actually thought the piece had a decent take on it which was they were not a political band. They were a band you could lose yourself in and enjoy. John people think of them as a rock band. A lot of what they were was a combination of a country blues. A lot of influences. You could hear strains of music in the dead that is very countryish. That is republican music. There is a lot to be said for the freedom and that this is also music that is not avant garde like lou reed. Next, some press secretary quotes. It will be hilarious. I promise. After this. John we are here with matt walsh. You are the press secretary on veep. You completed your fourth season. The consensus is the show has gotten better and better. It has gotten meaner, more incisive, funnier, more clear eyed about what washington is like. How do you keep buildings on the quality . It seems like every time you set the bar, you have to set it higher because the thing keeps getting better. Im shocked by that degree of incremental matt you are jinxes us. One thing they do well on our show, if i can brag, it is surprising, they are good at keeping the audience guessing where this is headed. It is not just plot twists, but the Delivery System of coverage and the things that stay true are the brutal insults and the way washington is portrayed. And i think the characters, my perspective is one character everybodys characters get more defined and i also think the chemistry gets better between the actors. The process informs that. We do a lot of improv in rehearsal. We get to add jokes or pitch ideas and the writers go away and they will make the next draft reflected that. John how Much Research did you do . Any . Matt i get a fair amount. Every season i need another one. Speak with them. John what is the best piece of advice you got from any of them . Matt the funniest part of your job. Who is an awful person you were forced to deal with . Or a funny situation. The device, i dont know i got advice from many of them. I try to capture the job. You want to go out with their assistants latenight and find out what happens behind the cameras. John you want to be able to maintain plausible deniabilty. The president signs this one. We are going to forge the president s signature on the. The new one. That is a capital offense. You could be electrocuted for that. I am not here. John you have a sense that is how press secretaries are as well . Matt i think that is true. Be told what youre supposed to be told. You do not want to get involved. You are going to be asked questions and you cant lie to the public like that. John all the time. You can lie sometimes. One advisor says it is the most authentic about washington, d. C. I think a lot of people feel the same way. Is that a goal of the show . Do you want to be authentic or try to be funny . Matt ultimately it has to be funny. When they did their initial tours for the pilot, they wanted that no one has a desk. There are people doing computer stuff in this chair, that chair. They did not want to west wing it up. From day one, they wanted to base it in that reality. Obviously we say funnier things than real life people would say. We are more eloquent. John and more profane. Scatological. Matt we are probably more profane. John we put together, we have been struck by the number of things mike says from the podium. Some of which, some things you say are absurd. Im going to quiz you right now on who said it. Mike or someone else. Are you ready . Matt thank you for doing your homework. John press secretary a, answer the question, his answer was, he said i could be making that up. To a reporter. Matt mike has never said that. John jay carney once said that. Another one. A big crowd today. Did something important happen i missing . Matt mike. First press conference. Theyre excited. John great. An encyclopedic knowledge of your lines. Right. Ive got a couple margaritas getting warm right now. Not mike. Robert gibbs. The idea of margaritas warming up. It does not appeal to me. The next one. A press secretary said, see yesterdays nonresponse. Matt ooh. I could see mike saying that. I dont remember saying that. If i had to pick, im going to say mike. John no something he might have said. Again jay carney said that. A master of absurdist quips. Any questions . You know, i will do the first one myself. Why are you so damn handsome . A memorable line. Mike mcclintock. In response to a question, the president wont tell me. Matt real. John jay carney. He is a repeat offender. Finally the president feels great, like president harrison who contracted pneumonia during his inaugural address. Mike mcclintock. Matt walsh, youre the best. We will be right back. Republicans like the grateful dead philosophy. This is something ive learned. The republicans are deadheads. Some candidates will be investing in tiedyed shirts right now. At some point hippies grow up and they realize taxes are too high and they dont want the government involved. I think that is what we are seeing with this. Phil whatever it is, like fox news, we are trying to figure out how to tie the grateful dead and politics together. That is when we called van forrster, a huge deadhead. And he has some off the rack advice to give. Take it away. Van here, getting ready for the grateful dead farewell tour. It turns out democrats and republicans love the grateful dead. They love them. Ive got some advice for you. 2016 president ial hopefuls. Check it out. Rich man step on my poor head tennessee jeb. Thats an opening. Stuff that in your super pac. Ive got one for donald trump. A friend of the donald is a friend of mine thats an opening. Feel free to use that. Ive got one for john kasich. The first days are the hardest days, dont you worry about the polls uncle johns band. John kasich you can do it. Run for president some look for answers thats an opening, rand paul. Lets take it even further. Get it . Hillary clinton. Every Silver Linings got a touch of gray and for bernie sanders. I will see you at the show buddy. See you there. Feel free to use any of this advice no charge at all. Anything for the dead. Longlived jerry. Phil american hero. We will be back with one of the worst news dumps ever. Phil one last piece of news, jim webb announced he is running for president this afternoon on the world wide web. A couple of hours before everybody took off for their holiday weekend. This is an interesting strategy. Do you think it is the strategy of a Winning Campaign . John jim webb, think about his resume, vietnam veteran. Reagan administration. Secretary of the navy. One term senator from virginia. But this announcement tells you everything you need to know about why you cant take him seriously. Two days ago his spokespeople were telling us he has no plans to announce. Two days later, out of nowhere you get a posting. Not a video or an event. Just a piece of writing on a website. There is a flakiness to that. Next week. Richard haas. Until then, happy fourth and sayonara. We live in a pick and choose world. Choose choose choose. But at bedtime . Why settle for this . Enter sleep number. Dont miss the lowest prices of the season going on now. Sleepiq technology tells you how well you slept and what adjustments you can make. You like the bed soft. Hes more hardcore. So your sleep goes from good to great to wow only at a sleep number store. Right now, save 300 to 700 on select mattress sets, plus 36month special financing. 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