We will talk about clinton later, but trumps empire state romp earned him closer to the magic number of 1237 delegates needed to secure the nomination, thus avoiding a contested convention. This afternoon, the Washington Post reported on an internal Trunp Campaign memo, projecting that the donald is on track to collect 1400 delegates by the time the race is finished. His new york victory speech is getting extra buzz, in part because of his traditional, which is to say nottrump demeanor. Gone were the lying ted insults and antics. It was a trump on message, a new more forwardlooking front runner. Mr. Trump we dont have much of a race anymore based on what im seeing on television. Senator cruz is just about mathematically eliminated. We have won millions of more votes than senator cruz, millions and millions more than governor kasich. [applause] we expect we are going to have an amazing number of weeks, because these are cases, and they are in trouble. When you look at pennsylvania, indiana, maryland and rhode island and so many places, we have problems everywhere you look. We are going to solve those problems. [applause] and one of the big problems is the economy and jobs. And that is my wheelhouse. John donald trump had a rally in indiana, in which she seems more like the old trump. Lying ted was back. But as carefully meditated as it was, what clues did you see as he intends to close out the fight and win of the nomination . Mark he said lying ted today. Two big clues for the election. One is, talk about the economy. If is can talk about 2 growth, people having anxiety about the future, he can win the general election. And two, trying to be more dignified and more focused. To win the nomination, he is on this message of getting the most votes. And if he is short of a majority, i think you will argue with a lot of passion. I got way more votes, i should be the nominee. John we will come to that later in more detail. The economic focus is interesting. Its something that people around him, the new and old regime, and others have said for a long time, trump is strongest when he is focusing on the economic theme. You could argue the Foreign Policy arguments, that in a time of terror, he might be in another place. I think he will have a hard time winning a general election by the way. It is clear from that speech that he thinks that the economy is the ticket. Strikingly, they got him to actually stick to it last night. Mark we did not show it, but last night he recognized some of the Business Leaders in the room. He cannot win a general election unless hes the candidate of business. A democrat like barack obama, bill clinton, they win. He put a down payment on that last night. Donald trump acting a bit more president ial. Ted cruz tried to act unfazed by his weak thirdplace finish in new york last night. Cruz is campaigning in pennsylvania, where he called for a oneonone debate with turmp ahead of the next primaries on tuesday. In those states, cruz fights it out with john kasich for second place. Meanwhile, cruzCampaign Manager was at a rnc meeting in florida where he met with Party Leaders and announced the campaign has 9 million in the bank. He says his senator is the only alternative to the stoptrump republicans. There is a prospect that kasich will do better than cruz, maybe not every state, but overall. If cruz finishes mostly third, does that hurt the stoptrump movement . John it does not in and of itself. I think the Cruz Campaign is not focused on these states. They are looking towards the Western States. Looking at nebraska, south dakota, montana, some in california, to be able to score big wins in those states to stop trump. Cruz is still on track. There are momentum and narrative questions. They mean something, but i am not 100 convinced that donald trump having a big night last night and on tuesday will hurt ted cruz with the voters of montana and nebraska. Mark that is the question. We talk about iowa and new venture as the early momentum. There is an early period when its about both. If cruz does poorly in the northeastern states, he may do better in delaware, but if you does worse, then kasich, i think that is bad for him. He needs a compelling case that he has momentum going into indiana going out west. A bad night in the northeast. Cruz says he can win penciling it in a general election. John there was this john weaver memo from john kasich campaign, making the argument that the nevertrump forces failed. What might unearth the movement if cruz and kasich somehow dilute each others impact. Kasich on his own in these northeastern states could hold trumps margins down and take delegates await. They may end up in a murdersuicide pact. Mark the exit polls from yesterdays primary shows 68 of new yorkers said that if no republican candidate gets to 1237 before the convention, the nomination should go to those with the most primary votes. Probably methodically certainly donald trump. Even if the party thinks there is a better candidate out there. That is precious ammunition for the trump campaign, which is been trying to convince delegates that they deserve to win, even if falling short of that magic 1237 threshold. Mark, there are obviously arguments, but are any of those arguments powerful enough to trump the trump argument . Mark very hard to trump the trump argument, especially if he wins the popular vote. The strongest is that this is a popular organization. As what kasich and cruz are are going, based on electability. That trump cannot win a general. That has to be there strongest argument. In july to election will be insight. That is the best i think they will have. John the reality is, and we have various people heralding trumps rise the bottom line is that donald trump goes to the commission with fewer than 1237 delegates, he would be a historically weak republican nominee. Mitt romney had the magic number by this point in the contest 4 years ago. Mark oh no he doesnt. He had about 100 more delegates than trump. John so when did he actually lock up . Mark normally you become the de facto nominee, everybody quits and gives up. Trump is not that far behind. John that bell rang way too early. Mark we will talk more about that topic, believe me. When we come back, Hillary Clintons victory speech and Bernie Sanders spinmaster meltdown of sorts after this word from our sponsors. Mark six blocks from here last night, donald trump gave his remarks, celebrating his victory from trump tower. Hillary clinton addressed the room at the same time that it later. Celebratory songwriters and the sheridan, where she gave her own clue ridden victory speech about how she would unite the Democratic Party, and issues she would campaign on in the days ahead. Sec. Clinton to all the people who supported senator sanders, i believe there is much more that unites us than devise us. [applause] we are going to keep our families safe and our country strong. And were going to defend our rights. Civil rights, voting rights, workers rights, womens rights, lgbt writes, and rights for people with disabilities. Donald trump and ted cruz [boos] are pushing a vision for america that is divisive, and frankly dangerous. Returning to trickledown economics, opposing any increase in the minimum wage, restricting a womens right to make her own health care decisions. [applause] mark so john, looking at clintons speech, what indications are there that you see about how she plans to position herself against sanders in the general . John well, against sanders, she is not going to say that the race is over, but is quite clear that she believes it. Mark the end is in sight. John she says in a exquisite way, there is more that unites us than divides us, that is a theme you will hear all the way through to philadelphia. On the republican side, they will destroy the country can be horrible in every possible way. A very contrasting case. She will have things to say that a positive, but so much of what is clear about the anothers of this race will be very negative and contrast driven. An assault on republican extreme is. Mark people talk about microtargeting campaigns, sending messages to specific groups. The Clinton Campaign plans to do that. They will send messages to africanamericans, hispanics, to women, to single women. John all with the same message about how horrible republicans are. Mark on guns, on reproductive freedom, on all sorts of things. But i will say if she can get Bernie Sanders to endorser, raise money for her, she will be in a lot better shape. She needs to improve her numbers. John oh my god. Mark but last night i thought she can continue her run. When she is a weak candidate, she looks a lot easier to beat. John Bernie Sanders campaign has been in serious spin mode since his loss in new york. But the future of the campaign has been confusing. Late last night, the Campaign Manager will be on the show shortly, telling msnbc that whatever the state of the pledge delegate count after the voting ends on june 7, team sanders plans to fight to merge superdelegates all the way to the convention. Then sanders Senior Advisor told decision press that they plan to sit back and this is where we are after the primaries next week. They quickly walked back at comment, saying that the campaign will stay in the race until every state has voted. Heres what divine said on cnn this morning. We have to do well next week. We lost a few more delegates than i thought we would. We are a little farther behind in delegates then we hope to be. I hope if we do well next week, then we can get back on course to have a pledge delegate lead by the time voting ends. We lost more than we thought we would. We thought the race will be a little bit closer. But we can still do it. John mark, the magnitude of sanders loss is greater than any side expected. What you think is the prospect that Bernie Sanders will actually get out of this race, reassess, and stop campaigning before june 8 . Mark it does not seem that way to me. She will not have gone fully over until the last day. He wants voters to hear his message. He wants every possible delegate he can to strengthen his arguments at the convention. I think he wants to continue i hate this word, but am getting use it, he wants to continue the journey he is on. [laughter] john the trek. I think the real question is, what happens from june 8 forward . I have no doubt he will campaign until june 7. There is a question about the tone he adopts, what kind of attacks he launches. That is the number one thing that is still in issue. I dont know the answer, but he may back off a little. After that, i think ted knows that if they are behind in pledged delegates, they will not be out trying to convert superdelegates. That would be a fools errand this summer. Mark the one thing that i think will be interesting question, he calls for her to release her speeches, those hard contrast. They still have a lot of money, they have to spend it on something. And does he want to build a movement that is durable . Lets say that hes not the nominee. Does he want a movement that he leads from the senate, and is there a way to build that or not . John and have it be a big force in the Democratic Party. Mark we will ask Sanders Campaign manager jeff weaver about all these questions. No more speculation, from the horsess mouth right after this. Mark Bernie Sanders woke up facing a larger delegate gap to Hillary Clinton. His winning streak now over. Questions swirling about what will happen next with his campaign. We have questions, and luckily we have someone that can answer all of them, Campaign Manager jeff weaver, who joins us inside the inside the beltway. Jeff weaver, good afternoon, good evening. How are you gentlemen . Mark tad devine has said some stuff, till is clearly and plainly, what is sanders intention in terms of how he will conduct himself and what his goals are . Jeff the goal is to win the nomination for president. That remains the goal. It is an attainable goal. The senator is feeling good. We have five contests coming up next week. Starting tomorrow, he will be campaigning in philadelphia. He will go back to pennsylvania. We have four other states. Fighting hard for those delegates. John jeff, which of those states do you feel like you have a reasonable prospect of winning . Jeff i certainly think rhode island will be a positive state. I believe that pennsylvania is externally competitive. I think we have a shot in connecticut. We will fight for the other two as well. Mark if last night, i think you guys have been pretty clear it was not as good as you hoped it would be. When we last talked, you said you had a secret list in your pocket that showed you had to get to a majority of elected delegates. After last night, do you still have such a list . Jeff absolutely, we updated it. It is a dynamic document which is updated to reflect the reality of the number of delegates. Mark named three states that are left to vote besides california where you think you will pick up substantial net delegates. Jeff we have the opportunity to do great in pennsylvania, do extremely well in oregon. I think indiana is very competitive right now. Going through may, i think thats going to be a great month for senator sanders. He has the opportunity to do what he did before new york, which is run the table. A lot of states with a lot of delegates, new jerseys and others, where he will do well. John jeff, let me ask you to clarify something you said last night on msnbc about flipping superdelegates. It was a relatively truncated discussion. For the sake of argument, lets stipulate that at the end of the voting, we wake up on june 8 and secretary clinton is ahead in the popular vote and ahead in the pledged delegate count. Is it your contention that you will spend the summer trying to convince superdelegates that senator sanders should be the nominee . Jeff we would have to substantially closer delegate lead that the secretary currently has. If it looks like it does today, that would seem to be frivolous. If we have substantially closed the gap, if senator sanders has a run of victories, if the general election polls continue to show what they show now and have consistently shown for a couple months, which is that he does better against a republican than does the secretary. In many cases, she loses to john kasich, and in some cases ted cruz. It does make sense in that case. John jeff, just to be clear, you say there is a circumstance in which you can be behind in pledged delegates and behind in the popular vote, and you would still think it was appropriate to spend the summer trying to convince superdelegates to switch to senator sanders away from secretary clinton . Jeff right, given what i just told you, yes. Within the context. Mark have you ever been to the clinton headquarters in brooklyn . Jeff i have never. I am waiting for my invitation. Mark i think the place must be filled with fainting couches. This has been one of the most mild battles in terms of rhetoric i have ever covered in terms of two candidates, and yet they really get upset when senator sanders or your Campaign Says anything about her. Nonetheless, there is this fetish with the Clinton Campaign, Bernie Sanders continues to criticize secretary clinton. On issues like her wall street speech transcripts, on issues like her position on wall street, on the iraq war, senator sanders will back off or escalate rhetoric . Jeff this campaign is a comparison between candidates. On the substantive issues, including how people raise money how you raise money is a substantive issue that demonstrate commitment to Real Campaign finance reform. He will talk about the differences on fracking, wall street, climate change, minimum wage. Mark for those clinton people that say, fine, let him keep running, but he should ramp down the rhetoric that could hurt clinton, you say what . Jeff i have to say what they have seen in this campaign, this is been a mild campaign in the event that the secretary becomes the nominee, the kind of firestorm she will face from the republicans will make this look like nothing. Mark jeff, obviously its true that she would face a lot of criticism from republicans. The concern is that you are criticizing her on her character, her judgment, suggesting she is not qualified at one point during the new york primary. Now accusing them of breaking the law on campaign finance, that those are giving ammunition to republicans that will eventually be deployed against her. What do you have to say against those charges . Jeff first of all, i think those charges are baseless. The question of judgment has been a question from the very beginning. Her support of the iraq war being a prime example of her bad judgment. Lets be clear, those of us that no politics know there is a book on secretary clinton that is three feet thick. There is stuff that we have chosen not to go near that they will rollout the day after this nomination is sewn up, if she does that. They have plenty of high paid people. The corresponding republican david brocks, who have been doing research on secretary clinton and also as well, they have plenty of ammunition. Mark jeff, a real quick answer, if senator sanders is not the nominee, will he stay in the Democratic Party . Jeff he said he is a democrat, and will be the democratic nominee. Mark but he is a member of the Democratic Party for life . Jeff yes he is. Mark jeff weaver, thank you very much. We look forward to talking to you now and next tuesday, when some of those states are voting. Across the aisle, will get the republican race with a leading strategist, goes by the name steve schmidt, after this word from sponsors. You shouldnt have to go far to get the help youre looking for. Thats why at xfinity were opening up more stores closer to you. 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