Transcripts For BLOOMBERG Charlie Rose 20170425 : comparemel

Transcripts For BLOOMBERG Charlie Rose 20170425

Supporters applaud his strike on syria and the confirmation of neil gorsuch. Critics say he has lit made little headway on major legislation and his record low poll numbers reflect this. Joining me to talk about the presidency, from washington, glenn thrush. From california, hugh hewitt. Andr we also have dan c r, former advisor to mitt romney, and in the office of george w. Bush. And philip bump is a correspondent for the washington post. Do you go about an assessment of this president after 100 days . You have to use the old nixon yellow pad, the good and the bad. It has been the best of times and the worst of times. Neil gorsuch is a 30 year with, a significant win, and a huge free exercise for the court. More will be many decisions where Justice Gorsuch will be on the side of the originalists. It is impossible to overstate is they got with his win it on the other hand, the loss of the Obamacare Repeal is thestating to the idea republicans could a copy something if they had all three branches of government. They havent. Thats a major drawback. There are also 20 Circuit Court judges that are vacant for which only one nominee has been put forward. At the downside. On the upside, there are 13 Congressional Review Act statutes which have longlasting , deep implications for the rollback of the federal administrative state. Its a 5050 perspective. Charlie glenn . Hugh is grading on a curve here. This is a president that, according to a pair of polls, in the 42 to 44 approval rating. That is the lowest by far of any president in the modern era. It means he has far less Political Capital with which to act, to handle the humiliating defeat on health care stuff. Therehan that, i think was a fundamental misapprehension by the president particularly steve bannon, about how the presidency works. They thought they could achieve a great deal through executive action instead of realizing what most president s know, which is executive orders are more effective at the end of an administration or the end of a first or second term, when read legislative routes have been blocked. The president , what we are seeing is him learning over the last couple of weeks about the job, and if you are a reporter, there are a handful of encouraging signs. He is learning after months. Charlie but theres also support among his core base remaining five. 96 of the people who voted for President Trump in november still support him, and his presidency among republicans is still as high as 85 . But his erosion has been fundamentally with people in the middle. Independents who voted for him in swing states who still disapproved. Remember, this is one of the most extraordinary elections in modern history. A substantial number of people who voted for the president disapproved of him. Poll,e theres also a im not sure who did this poll, that said he would still eat beat Hillary Clinton in the popular vote. If you looked at the erosion that happened, the fact that donald trump was holding so much of his base, Hillary Clinton supporters are expressing regret. 15 of them said they might look elsewhere, not necessarily for trump, but thirdparty. And to the larger question . The surest sign donald trump is not happy with how hes trying to downplay. I think he has had some wins. Certainly the Gorsuch Nomination is a big win, but he has done a good job of undermining the establishment in washington, undermining the bureaucracy in washington, making things a little easy. I think that something a lot of his supporters approve of. I think hes also done a good job of putting question marks next to president obamas legacies. My we talk about how popular donald trump is with republicans, we have to keep in mind this is a polarized moment for politics. Donald trump is seen very well by republicans in the same way barack obama is seen well by democrats. A lot of people wanted to see donald trump president obamas policies undercut. Charlie the other specifics of health care and other legislative challenges, what is his biggest weakness and strength in terms of the way he has conducted himself, in terms of leadership within the white house . I would say mostly in patients. He has this sense that in order to be successful, he has to rack up big wins early. You are right, he got trapped by this 100 a measure. It fueled was whats going on in the white house. Historically, bill clinton was widely panned for his first 100 days. Signaturebush, his legislative achievement, no child left behind, did not get in until a year after he was sworn in. Barack obama, the Affordable Care act, not enacted until 14 months after. There is a sense in the white go, as opposed to taking a step back and saying the 100 day mark is meaningless. In the other sense, he did act quickly where the president doesnt need congress, acting on syria. Im critical on a lot of the selfinflicted wounds this president has made and a lot of the noise that shapes the daily headlines is justified, but i would add syria, because he basically enforced Barack Obamas redline, which barack obama did not due to his entire second term. Trump did it within a matter of days. You have bipartisan support for what he did, which is pretty amazing. I dont think people, including me, would have expected that. Charlie what about temperament . Bob gates has been on this program a couple times, and said that the mark of a great president s temperament. Does donald trump score high on temperament . Not high, but rising, particularly when it comes to appointments. Youlook at general mattis, look at secretary kelly, and h. R. Mcmaster replacing Michael Flynn in the white house, and you have a trio of National Security people who have amped up and created credibility around the president where he was weakest coming into office. So the seachange underway from the obama years, which was bleeding from behind, redline, aleppo, libya, you name it, it was retreat and reversal day after day, and a frosting is with israel, our closest ally. Hat has changed in 100 days the temperament has maybe even asked the fact that he is upping game, and with it, his control over the second 100 days. Charlie how do we measure this idea that he has changed some of the Campaign Promises and some of the programs he suggested he would enact as president . Does changing your policy or changing personnel in the first 100 days count for you or against you . I think with donald trump it counts for you. The fact that he reached out to secretary gates to recruit secretary to listen to the administration counts for. I see a lot of good developments in donald trump learning how to be president. Hes a good developer. Hes learning how to get the next project done. I remain concerned. The biggest project is that almost no one is at the department of state with rex tillerson. Only Jeff Sessions has stepped apartments. T scott pruitt is alone at epa. Theres almost no one at defense with jim mattis. Administration typically have more people in the pipeline. Charlie so that the failure . Yes. On the issue of National Security, people i speak to in the white house say on domestic policy and economic policy, its chaotic. On National Security issues, the president seems strikingly kellyntial to mcmaster, charlie there, he has no experience. He has deferred to people with experience. On syria, he said, show me options, had a lot of meetings. He actually chose the most cautious option they presented to him. On the National Security front, he seems to respect expertise thats not his own. Charlie but on the economic issue, he also has gary cohn in the white house. He has mnuchin at treasury. He has the secretary of commerce, weighing in on economic issues. Testshink we saw in early of his ability to affect economic change with the Health Care Bill, which did not go well. I think that is because he did not have a lot of ownership they had. To take ownership retroactively. This week, he will announce his tax report package, supposedly a 15 tax cut for corporations. There will probably be more support from republicans than you would expect, but that will be a good test to the extent that donald trump, this is an he can doid something. It will be a big test. He showed in health care fight that he has trouble figuring out how to manage congress. This will be the second big challenge. Charlie he also pulled out of tpp. Glenn, what about Health Care Legislation . Can he make a deal with the Freedom Caucus . Ranks somehow quiet the in the Republican Party and get a Health Care Bill passed . I think its pretty unlikely. A lot of the pressure is coming from reince priebus, who, as everyone knows, is close to House Speaker paul ryan. Both of them took it on the chin during this. Reince priebus, his position is somewhat more secure, but he is still not a powerful chief of staff. Unlikely, andvery in order to get it through the Freedom Caucus, he has to get rid of the preexisting provision. This is a one house bill. We are talking about the potential of passing this, jamming it through the house, having members walk the plank, only to have it killed in the senate. I think thats a difficult situation for him. As we know, there is a knock on effect, because they were hoping to achieve 1 trillion worth of savings to roll it into the tax cuts. Now if they have to do is come up with 1 trillion or do some serious deficit spending, which is an anathema to other people in the house. Whatever he does he finds someone blocking his way. Theres a reason theres gridlock in washington. I agree about the president sort of changing the general tone of the place. But in terms of figuring out how to get this stuff done remember, this is a guy whose Party Controls absolutely everything in washington. Its funny, we are hearing people talk about the schumer down. The republicans are trying to push this notion that Chuck Schumer and the democrats are going to stop the train from leaving the station. Test for the a president , but the republicans, who, after all, are you dominant ruling party in washington dc. I agree. If you compare this period to barack obama, president obama had a unified Democratic Party and organized opposition. Trump has a completely ununited Republican Party. Charlie still controls all sectors. Controlling all sectors, but President Trump did not run on a conservative agenda. Everyone is trying to figure out where they fit in this new Republican Party being led by donald trump, so it is many things, but not Movement Conservatism as we have known it for 30 years. Charlie on syria, obviously that was a successful strike in terms of the goal is to stop them from using chemical weapons. On the other hand, people point out that there is no strategy. Theres no real knowledge of where to go from here, except for the fact that the president said, i dont want to get involved in the syrian civil war. I think we saw secretary mattis in afghanistan this morning and h. R. Mcmaster following him there as they prepare a plan for the president , which i expect him to adopt. I do believe he will get the military above the 54 million that Mick Mulvaney has. Im one of those republicans calling it the Chuck Schumer shutdown, because it takes 60 votes to pass the resolution. If theres any border security, senator schumer said he will shut it down. The strategy has to be first restock the shelves. President obama left the artment of defense aaron bearing. 60 of our f18s are not ready to fly. We only have 10 carriers ready to deploy. Japanese Defense Forces are sending this trials out in the korean peninsula. s Chuck Schumer wants to shut down the government over the wall, i think the democrats, we should talk about them. They have really moved to the left. I think part of what we are seing is Bernie Sanders effect on the party is part of the legacy. They have gone way to the left. Charlie north korea is his biggest challenge. President obama was handing the transition off to the Incoming Administration. Apparently he wanted the Incoming Administration that this was it, the sleeper problem. If there was one problem they didnt address they would have it was handling north korea. Charlie the president had a philosophy, they thrive if you pay attention, so dont pay attention. Dont make a lot of noise, and they wont make noise. The people around president has been forward leaning. They are not interested in just ratcheting things down. Charlie i think general mattis said the days of strategic patients are over. Patience are over. I think there is early progress in that regard. Especially getting china on board is no small thing. When people say President Trump flipped on the currency manipulation i get it, you can get whiplash trying to keep track of this however, it was probably in response to the fact that the chinese government, for the first time, was sending ships back. The first time. Ose was starting to tighten. Was this connected to diplomacy . I dont know, but it seems like a coincidence. Other than Foreign Policy, one of the things that was said about president obama is that there was reservation about his will after the red line, especially among the arab countries. Saudi arabia, the emirates, and others. Where does donald trump stand on that . I think donald trump has shown he is willing to take without reservation, to some extent. We made the point earlier that he is sitting down and making decisions based on meetings, but hes not having a lack of willingness to enter into Foreign Policy challenges. He said on the campaign trail that he was going to make china deal with this issue, but it seems as though he has gotten china to wrap their hands around it more than barack obama was willing to do. I think one of the things he managed to do on the campaign trail was portray himself as a different sort of Foreign Policy person then hes going to be. He talked about being handsoff and leading it to other people, but hes showing a willingness to work on it the way barack obama didnt. People on the conservative foreignpolicy right are all excited to claim trump as a neoconservative. Hes willing to engage in the middle east, willing to use force. Neocon,h is he is not a but hes also not an isolationist. Hes somewhere in between. I think hes leading the world into a different era. King abdullah coming to the white house, benjamin netanyahu, the sunni Israeli Alliance to oppose hezbollah axis, that is real. I think we can put to bed talk that Vladimir Putin and donald trump will be best buddies. That is not happening. I think theresa may going to the electorate on june 8 is going to strengthen the idea that the world longs for leadership from the west. Not le pen. Shes off the chart. Shes not like trump. I dont think shes part of the global realignment. I think shes an outliner. Donald trump has had a lot to do with it, as has jim mattis and nikki haley at the yuan you and un. You. Ie thank we will continue all week talking about President Trump and the first 100 days, exploring things we didnt talk about today, including the economy and regulation, or the end of certain regulations. All of that and more as we look at President Trumps first 100 days. Back in a moment. Stay with us. Charlie on sunday, france helped what is being called the country most consequential election in recent years. Two antiestablishment candidates, Marine Le Pen and mn macron, run emmanuel advanced to the ren offs. Today, le pen stepped aside as needed leader of the national front. Some say the dissolution of the french party system as well as the European Union, and the general election proves to be a test case for the future of france and europe. ,oining me is adam gopnik michiel vos, and from paris, france, sophie pedder. She is that paris bureau chief of the economist, magazine. I am pleased to have all of them here for the implications of the french vote. Tell me the mood in france today after seeing this firstround result. I think the french are just withning to come to terms what theyve managed to do, is it the two parties that have politics the french seen. You have two candidates, one of them from a party that didnt even exist a year ago, and the other from the far right. There is a mood of apprehension, pride, and also examine. One of the candidates is only 39 a country where candidates tend to be around a long time before they become president. This is a big change. Charlie how do you explain that phenomenon of Emmanuel Macron . Sophie i think he responds to a mood in france that is something different, but that mood has been partly met by the candidates on the extreme, and also a yearning for a different kind of politics. I think the french are fed up with the fact that the things dont change much, growth is slow, unemployment is high, youth unemployment is around 25 . People feel they want a different way of doing politics. Along he came, hes young and energetic, decided to build something across party borders

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