Game is honorable and not where it needs to be. This year marks the 20th anniversary of the tiger woods foundation, the Charitable Organization focuses on Youth Education and intends to double the number of students attending college through it scholarship this year. I am pleased to have tiger woods at this table for the first time. Tiger thank you, charlie. We have been trying this for long time. This has been an interesting several weeks. There is the ryder cup. You were instrumental, you were with him on the course and do he says you were in his head. You announced a new company which can be involved in live events and restaurants and golf course management. The 20thrated anniversary of the foundation, you announced as you did that you would play in the safeway tournament and you withdrew saying your body was ok, saying that your golf was vulnerable. What did you mean . Tiger before the ryder cup i was playing and i was able to play. Res and claim i took some time off during the ryder cup and was focused on that. Myever caught quite got scoring around. I was so excited to play, i wanted to compete and i went out to stanford right before safeway and i was practicing out there with the team and hang out with them and work on my game and it is a hard realization knowing that i am not scoring like i should be. Hitting, 150 had 150 yards and jumping on a nine iron and hitting the correct distance, shaping shots, all that stuff, i lost the feel of that. As a competitor i was ready to go and i wanted to compete but in my heart of hearts i knew that i could not go out there. Nd shoot 63s and 64s as a competitor, it does not feel very good. Charlie as the latest iron player in the history of the game, to take a seven iron ore a what and not be able to do you know you have done before, what you have felt before. What does it feel like . The feel ofs hitting those shots because i have not done it enough. I was in it groove playing at home, i took the time off for the ryder cup and trying to come back after that, i just did not have the same feel and i thought it would pick it up right away. I was ready to go. It is tough knowing that i see a shot and i say i can kind of feel it but it is not quite there yet. It is not quite there, even if waited a year to get back to this point. Lets be smart about it and not rush it. And that is from my brain saying ,hat but i heart is saying tiger, lets play. Lets go, and its get back into it. Youlie looking back, have come back before . It;s a fewe done surgeries or injuries, i have played through them and come back early, i have damaged the body to compete at a high level so many times. This time, i took a lot of time off to get it right. And theres no sense in hurrying injuringing the anymore. Do it all right. At soft safeway i thought i was ready and i was in. No sense in the urgency of getting back out there and doing it again, make sure your stuff is ready and when your stuff is ready, lets go. Charlie you will know. Tiger i will know. Thosee have you had kinds of rounds . Tiger i have done that at home but knowing that i have to do it in a scoring environment on a pj tour, doing that again, i was not quite ready for it yet. Because this is the longest layoff i have ever had in my career, i have never had this not a layoff, my feels are quite what they used to be. Playing more money games at home, some of the young guys coming out there. Charlie do golfers live around you . Tiger there are three pros play out there. Charlie it is the difference between the driving range and the course the difference between playing around with friends and tournament. Frexit ranger rick is one thing and then playing with your buddies is another thing. And playing the tour level is a totally different deal. And be on the major championships. There is a progression create i am not quite at that tour level progression yet. Charlie do you believe the talent is there . Tiger yeah. I can get the shots, and can feel the shots, i do not quite have it all yet. I like having a full repertoire shots. Yet. Charlieere and the cutting is what made you great. Put. Charlie there is no problem. The long irons . Ok. R it is the overall scoring. It is putting it all together. Keeping it in the fairway, i am not quite as long as they used to be. Charlie cole and by how much . Tiger 10 yards. The big boys are now 330. It is a different ball game and the game has gotten a look a little bigger. Cup was there at the ryder hitting some washing watching some of the guys hitting, i am looking at the is 52 degrees and we are looking at the numbers. 308. G i just carried can you hit that far . Charlie ken do you need to make adjustments to your swing . Tiger i am making slight tweaks and that is something i have always done. Making a little bit of tweaks. Charlie the search for perfection. Not perfection but excellence. I have converted the word into professional excellence. Charlie cole you are thinking perfect. I am thinking tried to get better. Charlie cole and that is the search to, what can i do, as good as i am. You were experimenting with your game when you were winning every tournament. Tiger i was doing that as a kid. Always trying to get a little better. Mindset, will to win. Clear headedness. That is there . Tiger sure. Charlie cole and those who suggest vulnerable means not just the game but somehow not having the same sense of rightness. That you had at the best. At the best of your game. Tiger i played my guest my best 16 years ago. Most guys are not jumping and ofng 360 dunks at the age 40. Most guys are not taking off the foul line. We have to make adjustments as we get older. I have done that throughout the years. And throughout different injuries, played around them. This is no different. Charlie i get the sense that you do not want anymore surgeries. Tiger god, no. Charlie cole and for different reasons. You have suggested you have had it with surgery. Tiger seven is enough. Charlie cole and you want to play and do these other things. Tiger i am in pain. I love playing soccer with my kids and tossing the ball around and playing golf with charlie, i love doing that stuff. That is the best feeling in the world. She plays soccer. For us to do soccer drills and have fun, to me, when i was hurt after the last surgery and i could not do any of that stuff for months at a time, that was little. Because,hard to take. Daddy, lets play. Daddy cant move. Charlie cole and i get the sense of what youre doing, announcing the company, that you are prepared if golf is over to have another life. Tgr branding is ringing the business is under one umbrella. They have been existing. I am setting up chapter two of my life. Chapter one was the golfer. Only the golfer of playing morning golf term ends. I am sitting at chapter two without hitting a golf ball and trying to create a Business Empire and different business entities and growing that so i dont have to hit a golf ball. I can to do other things that are of my interest. There. Fer can still be i can still play, i can still do those things but it is not mandatory for my business to grow and for me to help kids with my foundation or the restaurant or the designer all that stuff. I do not have to hit a golf ball. I can transition eventually into being strictly an entrepreneur. Charlie and involved with the foundation and other things. Tiger 100 . Charlie cole and it is not just you, it is us. We can let you go. There is a sense that we never tiger you care . Charlie yes we never understood what it was to be so brilliant on a golf course. We did not get how one could be so dominant in a sport. We did not understand how you could lose that either. And we desperately and i think this is everybody, because of the mistake and because where was and how it was lost is to understand and to want you to come back. They want to see it, that kind of dominance. It is reflected in television ratings. They want to see it one more time. You have thought about that. Tiger of course. I miss being out there, i miss competing, i a miss mixing it up with the boys and coming down the stretch. Charlie cole and you like being tiger woods. Tiger i like being those guys and that is why practiced all those hours and why i trained and ran all those miles is to be ready to take on those guys down the stretch. Do i miss it, absolutely, 100 . And to be at my age now at 40 years old and to have gone through the things i have gone ,hrough his ugly physically i am the first one to admit, i cant do the things i used to be e to, most of cap what most people cant at my age. Mindset, i am naturally a tactician. Even when i was hitting the ball long and blowing all the top of the bunkers, that was the strategy. I used my mind and eventually the method i used a lead me to master my craft. Charlie cole and that is why the mind is so important. You used your mind, you learned that from your father am i assume. You learn mental toughness. You learned how to win. You still have that. That part has not left me. I know how to get it done. I just need to get into position to get it done. Do ite you have to yourself. There is no coach or psychiatrist who can tell you that. Tiger as an individual athlete you are out there yourself. Out. E is bailing the manager is not coming in and right thing when youre struggling. No timeouts and i am not feeling the guyuy off will come off the bench and fill your role for the night. Your yourself out there. Charlie cole and that is what you liked about the game. Tiger what i really loved is and i still love is getting out there and figuring out a way to get it done. Just figuring out a way. Whatever you have, trying to figure out a way to dig down deep and myself to find a way to get it done. It may not be pretty but finding a way to get it done because i have won Golf Tournaments hitting it over fairways left and right. Chipping in and holing out. Charlie when it was dark people you could not possibly see the whole. Cat. i am tiger, i am a said you were never the biggest or the strongest, the only thing i had was my work ethic and that is what has gotten me this far. Tiger you can take that away from me. That is one thing you can take away. You can take away all my physical attributes but you cant touch my mind. That part of it is being mentally prepared and having the mindset of preparing and digging in and doing the work. I have never been afraid of that. To bee some have said tiger woods was a gift and a burden. How is it a burden . Tiger it is a burden in the sense that the amount of obligations that i have at tournament, anonymity that was , if you look back, the only regret i have in life is not spending another year at stanford. I wish i had one more year. Charlie that is the only regret. Of all the things that happen to you. Everything. Tiger of everything i have been through, it has been tough but we have been great for me. I wish it would have gone one more year to stanford. Charlie why do you say that . Tiger the amount of brilliant people that were there, the things it was learning at that time, was i ready to turn pro . Physically, yeah. Tournament i won a and i won the college slam, no one has ever done that. Three years in a row. I was ready to go but i wish i would have spent more one more year learning from everyone who was there, people who were designing their own computers, people working on the accelerator. Charlie there is stories about a rangeg interested in of things like that. You can always do that. Tiger being around this people at that age you do not get a chance to do that again and have two great years at stanford, it shipped me more than the subsequent, the two years really did shake me because the amount of people and also going away from home for the first time and for me to feel at home and comfortable around some of the greatest athletes on the planet, some of the brightest minds in the planet, they were also young and we were doing it together and this is before the internet. Having the communication and trying to get through study groups, that is one thing i do miss. Charlie this is in the 90s 1990s. I want to talk about how you became tiger. Why golf in the first place . Tiger that is a great question. I have played it basically all my life. I played baseball, i was a pitcher, i ran track and cross country. Sports, iing those did not love it. I kept coming back to golf. I kept finding myself running the miles in track and getting especially cross, getting all that mileage in to get ready to play golf. On the mound throwing and thinking, ok, this is number one, i have to position my shot so this fastball will be outside. Keptt thinking of, my mind coming back to golf. Whenever i was doing it whatever i was doing it kept coming back to golf. It was one of those el nino years. Hobbes was not allowed to go out there and hit the amount of range balls because it was hosing down rain, storm after storm kept coming. I just happened to be born in december of the next year that el nino hits and here i am. Charlie talk about him and her relationship with him. He is a person i missed dearly. I think about him every day. He was more than just my dad. He was a person i could always turn to, a friend, mentor, a leader. And eventually, a follower. He put on so many different hats and was comfortable playing different roles and that is something i really miss. Charlie what did he give you . Tiger my dad gave me so much, he gave me his heart and his soul and the fact that we were able to have the conversations we were able to have throughout my childhood and when i turned pro, and even when he was sick and he was battling Prostate Cancer three times. He would always find time and somehow find a way to talk to me. Even if he was not feeling well he would set up and we would have a great conversation. Charlie let me ask about a couple of things, number one a time that you jumped out of a plane at fort rag or somewhere. And your dad said, now you know what my life is like. Correct . Tiger i jumped out the Golden Knights at fort bragg. Charlie what did he mean . Tiger i had grown up playing at a military golf course and had been around the military and been around active duty and retired serviceman my entire life. I have not experienced what he had to do for his job. Charlie he was a green beret in vietnam. Tiger i had to take a car to get to the golf course, his was jumping out of an airplane. Now you can see what made me. Tiger correct. The amount of physical work, the operating in the past and currently, it is brutal on the body and it is tougher on the mind. And so getting over fear and toying on others not only basically save your life, that is something i never experienced, never understood. Charlie he helped you understand fearlessness . Tiger i would not necessarily understand it because i was a adrenaline junkie to begin with. I understood where he was coming from now. Charlie he was here at this table sitting where you are. Here is tigers pop. I maximize his opportunity with his own assets and his own skills create and brought this out at him. He already had it. Table brought more to the , taught him how to refine it, and develop additional toughness and him through experiential things. Since that time, since he graduated from what i call woods hasinishing school, he exponentially gone even higher on the toughness scale. Past even when i thought and it is surprising him. He has called me and he says, pop, im getting so tough and overtime i see him and i have been away from him a little while, i am amazed at how much tougher he is. Rlie that is cool tiger that is cool. The best of those years when you had such a remarkable spectacular run, that you were mentally tougher than ever buddy else. Tiger i just knew i was going to beat you. Charlie you were expected to win. It is part of what happened to you. Tiger that is fine but i expect to win as well. The toughness came in through practice as you were alluding to, hard work. And me working hard and feeling comfortable in hitting all the shots and pulling it off my all the shots you have seen me pull off, i have already pulled off. If i can do it there i can do it anywhere. Charlie youre convinced you worked harder than anyone else. As i i just know that alluded to, i was not always the biggest or the fastest, i was not the most gifted but you cant take away my work ethic. Charlie you wanted it more . Tiger i want to beat more. Is it the same competitiveness that Michael Tiger michael is tough and he loves winning, he loves beating people. And i think there is a certain commonality between all levels, forget athletes but all professions, i think he just enjoys Getting Better and being the best. Charlie what happens when they beat you . Tiger calling you back to the drawing board and do it again. Charlie there is always another day and i will be back and i will beat you. Tiger my winning percentage is not very high. It is like a baseball player. If you hit 300 you are in the hall of fame. So you lose 70 of the time. But you are one of the best to his ever played. In my sport it is the same way. The winning percentage is not very high but it is still a way to come back and get it done. Charlie how do we measure the best, is a jack because he has 18 majors or is it some general , simply that her son had more talent and applied it better than anybody . Tiger that is a great question. We never got a chance to play against one another except for that one time when we played with each other in 2000. When you cross generations, it is very difficult to see who is better than the other. In all sports. Wasst think that for me, i i would take my skills against jack any day and i am sure he would feel the same way. Charlie do you believe you will get 18 majors . Tiger to be honest, no. Charlie you have accepted that. Tiger i have accepted i will get more. Charlie you are 40. Was won the masters when he 40. And you have to get started soon. Tiger sooner or not, i need to get started and be ready to go. Charlie when your dad died and you took his body back to kansas. Did that take something out of you . Tiger having to bury my father, that was redeveloped. I have never lost a parent, my mom is still alive. That was the first person that has ever been close to me that i have had to go to a funeral and barry might happen to be the person i was closest to. Charlie the most influential person in your life, bar none. Tiger also the person i was closest to. I do not know if i am the only one who has ever felt that way. It hurt a lot. I do not grieve right away. I put it away for a i missed the cut at the u. S. Open. I still had not really grieved. I came back and played well and for some reason it was the most interesting thing, playing the final round, i had this sense of calm. What is this feeling . Winal you get a chance to and i did. But all of a sudden i had this calmness. It was like my papa was there. Whole 18. The i never cried. This started coming out. I just miss my dad. I knew he would never witnessed this again. That was hard to take. Charlie he treated you like an adult. Tiger he did. , that hee things i do did with me, any time we talked he would make sure he was at eye level. When he was above me he would sit down. If he was lying down toward the end of his life, he would sit up. We would always work at eye level. That is something that i think is so impor