From our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. One year has passed since the Boston Marathon bombing. Three people were killed in the tragedy. It marked the deadliest terrorist attack in the United States since 9 11. The event triggered an outpouring of compassion and grief from around the world. A Memorial Service was held early in the Convention Center a few blocks from the attack. A moment of silence was observed at 2 49 p. M. , the time of the first explosion. Joe biden spoke at the ceremony. You are boston strong. America is strong. They are not unlike you. All around america. That is what makes us so proud of this city and the state. What makes me proud to be an american. We have never, ever, ever yielded to fear. Never. Joining me now is an msnbc contributor and former boston globe columnist and the chief of staff to the chairman at citigroup. He ran in the marathon last year. You were in the city today. It was a very mellow feeling in the city today, the overcast weather probably helped the atmosphere. People were optimistic, filled with hope about the upcoming race. A lot of thoughtful people Walking Around the city of boston today remembering things that occurred a year ago today, but the sense of hope and the sense of resilience and optimism was palpable. Clearly, there is a sense of resilience. It was proven to be there. What more do we learn about boston . I do not know if it is restricted to boston, charlie. It is easier to focus on paying it forward than it is obsessing about the evil that was committed. A lot of that was what occurred in the immediate aftermath of the bombing. Everyone was very fortunate. The three people that died at the explosion were beyond help. They were all right there within a mile of four of the finest hospitals in the country. The Immediate Response of the paramedics and the firefighters was poignant to todays anniversary. 300 yards from the finish line, one of the firefighters working that day, one year ago, was a young firefighter, a combat veteran, michael kennedy, ran the length of boylston street towards the finish line, toward the injured, toward where the explosions had shattered peoples eardrums. He died three blocks from the finish line 2. 5 weeks ago. What helping people means, it is easier to help people and it is more healthy to help people than it is to hate. I have seen one remarkable story of individual recovery after another. People who thought they would never dance again because they lost a leg. You saw people carted away of that day. Joel was close to the action. You thought they would not make it and here they are. Remember that for us. I was half a mile from the finish line when they stopped us. When the bombs went off, i was a mile away. My family was at the finish line across the street on the grandstand. It was utter chaos. My story is one of a period of time of not knowing and expecting the worst. Injury to your family . Exactly. Upon reflection, i think i am grateful every day. A sense of deep sadness and sympathy for those who were not as lucky as i was. The First Responders that ran toward the chaos and carnage, nobody knew what was there. There were state troopers yelling at crowds of people to clear the area. Nobody really knew what else could be there and how orchestrated it was. How organized it was. What have we learned from investigations and from this investigative report . The fbi has a lot of work to do in terms of better coordinating their efforts. They seem unable to do that, i do not know whether it is an institutional difficulty, but they have a real problem communicating with local and state officials. They had it here and they had in past chapters. They had it at 9 11. I am not blaming them. I am not blaming the fbi for the tsarnaev brothers not being apprehended earlier. If you took a poll in boston about what should happen to tsarnaev, what would it be . If you probed enough people with a series of questions about the upcoming trial, i think you might be surprised. People do not care what happens. Put him in jail forever, but i have to get on with my life and i will not obsess about the trial. There are more important things to do, the health of my children. Get up every day and go to work and get on with your life and whatever happens happens. Has boston become even more you recognize there is something about you that you want to cherish and you want to make stronger . One of the more interesting elements, i think, about the marathon. It has been referenced, but not focused on enough. Joel epitomizes it. He is going back to run it this year. The Boston Marathon has been truly unique. It is a holiday. Run. Ots day when it is it is a family day. You bring your children. 36,000 runners this year, a huge field. I can remember when it was 15 guys from finland running. Now it is a huge thing. Once the first 75 or 100 runners crossed the finish line, the elite runners, the rest of the marathon is you, charlie, and you, joel, and nurses and School Teachers and cops and ordinary people running for various causes. That is the way it has always been. The focus on the fact that ordinary people fueled the marathon as well as the lines thick with people along all 26 miles. You are exhausted and the crowd draws you in as you come down Commonwealth Avenue and pulls you forward when you think you cannot take another step, that is what the marathon is. Boston strong, who came up with the slogan . Unknown. It is more than a slogan, it symbolizes the resilience of the survivors rather than the vulnerability of the victims. We remember not only the evil that claimed innocent lives, but also the tremendous determination of those who, despite suffering broken bones, amputated limbs, now lead productive lives. That is the story. The people are the story. I do not know how many total runners there were last year, maybe 32,000, but there are 32,000 stories. We are in the storytelling business, charlie. Jeff, who lost both legs, he and his fiance are expecting their first child in july. That is a wonderful story. Martin richards, eight years of age, who with his father and mother and sister go to the marathon to watch the finish because it is family day. You take all of the kids to watch the runners. He loses his life there and yet his life is not lost, he is still with us, a symbol of martin richard, the posters of this child and the way people have rallied around the family. The family carrying themselves with such dignity, it gives people strength and hope. I can recall when my children were eight years of age, taking them to the marathon, and you see these people who have been broken and maimed, wounded, i saw them in the hospital. You see them today and they are up on their feet when their feet were taken from them. Congratulations. Thank you. Good run. Thank you. There were other stories of boston today, people in boston and around the country remembered what happened. There were also stories about the people who survived and were able to rebuild their lives. Here are some of those stories. We will always remember our guardian angels. Martin. Crystal, and whether we raised them as our children, knew them for years, met them once, or only know them in spirit, we will carry them in our hearts. Our community, our city, our First Responders, our surgeons, physical and mental therapists, would not and will not let us fail and their unwavering devotion to strength is why we stand your boston strong today. Digital journalism is gaining speed. News organizations have lost some of journalisms biggest names. Some of them join us today. Nate silver was previously at the New York Times. They started their new venture, an independent site devoted to tech journalism. It is a nonprofit dedicated to covering the u. S. Criminal Justice System. I am pleased to have all of them at this table. Let me begin with mr. Keller. My friend, why did you do this . You have this quote in which you basically said, people have options, they should lean towards the one that scares them the most. I remember having preached that doctrine to lots of young reporters. You would like to think you have another act or two in your life. I have had all of the good jobs at the New York Times. The subject matter appealed to me a lot. Criminal justice, we have this dysfunctional, wasteful, inhumane system that vacuums up young people, mostly black men from disadvantaged communities from up realizes them and then drops them with no skills back into the same communities. How is that good for Public Safety . It is a subject i love and it is a challenge because editors tell you, our demographic does not want to read about that. In the back of my mind, it is kind of cool to be in on what may be the future of journalism. The future of journalism has many futures. There is a place for nonprofit journalism, by which i mean nonprofit on purpose. Are we redefining journalism . Right here, right now. We are and we arent. I am sure everybody at this table, they are on the web moving at the speed of the web, being sassier than you could be in the New York Times, but always doing your stories based on high standards that are very similar to what you have at the journal or the times. All of our reporters are terrific and they know their stories will hold until we get the right sourcing. You layer on top of that an ability to have a voice and it is much more liberating than what you get. Liberating is the word. We get to do what we want, we also have standards. We are moving journalism to the next phase by bringing along all of the old standards that are good and leaving behind the ones that are not. Embracing a new way of delivering. It is more like redelivering journalism in a way that is more interesting to readers. Nate is a good example of this. All kinds of needs that consumers have. It is not that they do not love good content, they just want it in different ways. Are you different than what the three of them are doing . Sometimes these things get lumped together. Different business models, different philosophies. What we are trying to do is data journalism. It means data literate reporting. We hope it is a part of the future for journalism. The people that we have hired from the wall street journal and the guardian, they will replace the people that left. Sometimes we are a Competitive Group of people and sometimes we weave our way in and out of trouble. The country could stand to have more data literacy. A lot of what it does, and we are trying to push that ball a little bit further. Your success means the country does want more. I was at a dinner with the ceo of a big American Company and he said, i see my business as a data business first and foremost. I have to analyze data to understand the competitive world. We are at the very crest, it will take a long time to get there. It has to do with the educational system. We have lots and lots of data and not an idea what to do with it. What he does is interpret it. It is not an opinion, but an attitude towards the data that explains it. This is a complicated question. No one is an objective observer. Human beings are inherently subjective. Instead of trying to present a filtered version it is also the case, we have been live for three or four weeks now, and we, by no means, have divorced ourselves from all of the challenges any journalistic organization faces. You went from the New York Times to espn and abc. You went from one big one to another big one. Because you thought you could do more there . Or because you had more freedom . You were driving during the political season the traffic. Not over the longterm. I wanted to build something. It is a really exciting thing to do. It is challenging and it is also a lot of fun. The espn family was a better place to do that because they take more of an attitude towards, we are making an investment. We hope he get returns on the investment. I love the journalists at the New York Times. Journalism is their strength. Plus, you love sports. Plus, i love sports. He was at the wall street journal and then he was a hedge fund guy. Is he doing this out of a passion to do something about the criminal Justice System . This is the way he believes he can do it . He has a bit of grownup add. He has changed entire careers. He has a track record of finishing what he starts. One of the things that sparked this was Michele Alexander book. Jim crowe. It talks about the racialization of the criminal Justice System in america. He is also funding a journalism project. A really interesting one. It is more advocacy journalism. We talked to him briefly. He wanted to understand what we were doing. I have known him since he started ebay. I covered him and i know him very well. Does comcast have an interest in your company . We have an operating agreement with them. We looked to have an operating agreement with a News Organization that was larger than we were because it was not just about raising money, it was getting the benefit of their wisdom. I am dead serious when i say that. They know things that we do not know. Also, of course, they have platforms. And they have lawyers. They are a minority investor. We have very tight relationship and i have to say, it has been really great for both of us because we both have what each other needs. How much of what you do will be conferences . We sold out in three hours. We are continuing to do the same conferences. We are trying to do them differently. We see this as an opportunity for a reset. We have some interesting new ideas. You will see over the next few years that we have additional ones we havent been doing. Is this going to be is this a new pull where some of the best journalists will say, i do not have to go to the traditional places. I can have freedom and be engaged in a different way. It is true that this is a symptom of the fact that for a younger generation, there is not that sense that you are a japanese salary man. You join a company right out of school and you stay there until you retire. There is a desire to start things and invent things and that can be frustrating in a large institution. You should not discount the influence that these startups and specific people are having on the mainstream News Organizations. If you walk through the New York Times now and you walked through the New York Times 10 years ago, you would see an entirely different place. It is much more of a laboratory, much more experimental, much more web focused. Nate contributed to that. I was the editor when he was hired. It was a mild shock to the system. A major shock to the system. You can identify his influence on that place. The influence he had was because they realize the impact he was having and they said, we need to hear the same music . The times has gotten a lot of things right, the best team of information architects in the world in terms of interactive features. They were great to work with. They realized early enough that the way content is presented on the web, it cannot just be a version of the print paper. You have the potential to do a lot more. I miss working with those guys. I did not have a huge philosophical difference with the New York Times. I enjoyed my time there, but these newspapers, organizations, are not in the mindset to invest in a product that has why . We want to build and we want to make. There is a whole movement in Silicon Valley as makers. What do you want to make . The thing we are doing now with re code. We do not want to wait for someone to tell us what to build. Or ask, pretty please. Everybody here has that risk. What you want is the chance to build, to grow, to invest. You need a certain kind of partner, investor, nbc understands this. Warner bros. Pictures. We feel like were being given the chance to build and grow. A lot of competing claims. Now we do not have to compete. To build, to grow, to invest. And you need a certain typ of investor. We feel we are being given a chance to grow. In terms of the consumer, what is it you think they are so desirous of . What is it that is driving from the demand side . There are consumers that want to be treated as being intelligent. We want to show you our work. We share a lot of data and codes instead of telling you, here is how the world is. We want to show you the way and get feedback from you. The whole phrase transparency makes a lot of sense. We hold the reader in esteem. If you capture a certain part of the audience and serve them well, you can be very successful as a journalistic enterprise if you understand the audience you are trying to serve. I hear a couple of words that are within the context. One is drilling down and the other is niche journalism. It is knowing your audience and serving it well. You serve an audience that is interested in criminal justice. What we are serving. That is correct and we hope to enlarge the audience paying attention to criminal justice. Criminal justice is about race, class, mental illness, immigration. If you guys do a great story or analysis, i would be interested in reading it even though it has nothing to do with my professional work. In our case, there is a lot of tech news. Our bet is on quality and it has been and we think there is an audience that want people who think hard, who do not necessarily write every piece of commodity news. What is different from what you do with technology than what politico does for politics . It is part of a whole ecosystem. I was with the washington post. And they said, your reporters are so good with social media. What is that supposed to mean . Of course, they are. I did not even know what to say. They thought it was some weird technique that we had. We are in a much more interactive way in the way that these interactive technologies are, using these tools to attract the audience. But never leave the reporting out. We are a substantial portion of the media, including new media is banking on the idea that people want to be entertained, distracted, or maybe they want to be outraged. Not that they want to be serious, contemplative, and educated. And we are betting that is wrong. I agree with you, but i would say, and i know kara talk about it a lot,