Team we tell you not only about significant events, we introduce you to active energetic and inspiring people who live in belarus and do everything for its development, belarus can be different, to understand and feel. You need to see it with your own eyes. Tv viewers on the tv channel belarus 24 watch us every day, witches are making belarus closer. Hello, belarus 1 and belarus 24 are on air, as always on fridays in the editors club together with our guests. Today we will discuss the main internal political and International Topics that are being discussed in our country and in the world. Well, lets introduce the guests and Dmitry Aleksandrovich zhuk, the head of the Holding Company with beybler, today olga e, shpilevskaya, director of the ntrk Representative Office peace in belarus is led by the belarusian. Eh, the union of women, so to speak, german political scientist Andrei Krivosheev general director of the minsk news agency, a denier of the Belarusian Union of journalists and Alexey Belyaev until the end of the faculty of journalism. What agreement do candidates of Historical Sciences have . Good evening. We will discuss several key topics today. Although it seems to me that its not worth voicing every time we are talking about the same thing , in general everything is mixed up, what they are discussing and it all comes down to ukraine to the special military conflict operations, like uh redividing the world. How can it be for me . Do not agree with me that some such culmination of ukrainian history may already be approaching. Although, uh, we are expected to see a lot of tragedy. The beginning of the end the beginning of the end. Thats right, they picked it up, i have this feeling, i dont know how it will all end. Im still an optimist. Yes, i hope e doesnt reach nuclear weapons. But these are not all the surprises that she is preparing for the Russian Federation; its time to call this a nato war with Russian Federation it is very funny when americans and europeans say that they are not involved in the conflict with the Russian Federation while supplying weapons. There the photo ends up in the video. The generals are dying. Eh, soldiers and supposedly mercenaries well, we know what a mercenary is, this is a former soldier who has just retired or retired long ago, this, to me, is a very dangerous moment. Unknown. How long can this continue, because. Well, there still must be some red lines. These are the rockets that they they are going to put atakamsk in ukraine, yes , in my opinion, thats what theyre called, but you hear these things are far away, theyll fly. And if this happens, hmm , lets remember putins phrase about the fact that we havent started yet. Well, the Russian Federation is not at war with ukraine; it is conducting a special military operation, because if it had been at war with ukraine, Vladimir Zelensky would not have spoken at the General Assembly this time. He wouldnt squeal like a fool, and everyone else, you know what im talking about, remember this story, which the president told. Why dont you take kyiv . He says, how will i take it if they are in kindergartens or schools, uh . Um, should i hit an Educational Institution with weapons . Well, the situation is extremely difficult. Well , the scandal that is becoming unpleasant for ukraine erupted in relations with poland, and the General Assembly of the United Nations just arrived in time, zelensky wearing his green uniform. His team went there and, admittedly, an unpleasant surprise awaited him. Why are you and i also going to discuss the curious situation from poland at night . Over the past few years , we have been discussing here that any relationship between poland and ukraine ends in the same conflict between these two countries and peoples, often with massacres. Uh, often with the division of the polishlithuanian commonwealth, but how will it be this time, well see more elections the day before, theres a whole lot of game going on there, again were preparing a series of reports with horror, were watching, whats going on there on television, of course, i ve never seen this before, listen to the Democratic Free tv society. Testator dvp Andrey Evgenievich knows a member of the European Union just mocks his opponents , ordinary citizens, political opponents, destroy them, they insult them, they leak them. Uh, things dont give the floor to the other side. Everything is in the best traditions of the totalitarian regime, komi. I think the duda regime and maravetsky and kachinsky are so about fate. E ukraine i. I remembered, uh , one fragment of the speech, uh, february 16 , 23 about what awaits ukraine, Andrei Evgenievich still remembered, but then after that he will say. Lets listen to what the president said. Six months will pass, no god willing, peace negotiations will begin. Uh , russia and belarus and ukraine, listen to them in general, you know, theyll leave, uh, the question is, and they ll leave just like that. Volodya zelensky doesnt understand, hes destroying ukraine, no one will restore ukraine. You see, tomorrow a new pressing issue will appear in some point on the planet and there, everything will be turned around and everyone will be tied up there, they will forget about ukraine and it will be in a dense state. These people who are left will struggle, it will take 100 years to restore this ukraine in order to restore no one will help the president , as the water looked like a new point of cleavage where africas attention is shifting, frances withdrawal from africa is generally a National Economic disaster for france, because they are losing raw materials, they are losing resources for their Nuclear Power plants. They are a new channel, which they were calculating for the supply of, uh, gas to europe through just uh , north africa, thats where attention is already shifting to the showdown between india and canada , the trade war between china, the technological war, the political war in the United States, the economy. Uh, this brings me to how zelensky flew to the usa more than once. At least there, but for us, i dont care at all how he flew, i dont care at all, it makes me happy, or rather, it saddens me that he was warned and this will end, no conflict has started yet because of the grain, because of a couple of million there, probably tons they are with poland and arrestovich. There he almost proposed to go to war and it has already begun. Uh, conflicts, of course, eh, i would also remember the words of the president , uh, which he said two years ago, probably about that the time will come. This is already the middle horizon when possible , belarusians and russians will have to save western ukraine from assimilation of colonization by poland, here it is happening poles against the backdrop of this grain scandal, which has little to do with purely economics, but more to do with internal polish politics, because farmers the strike has already been announced that the latest weapons. Poland has not been transferred to ukraine since 24 , there are few preferential benefits for refugees from ukraine in addition, poland will expel ukrainian men en masse so that they can participate. Well, lets see, let him indicate who is the boss in the ukrainian house, who is the boss in the ukrainian house in the ukrainian house. Sorry Dmitry Aleksandrovich, ill interrupt you for a second to say about the fact that the discord, of course, between the greater ukraine turned out to be just yesterday, they are throwing statements at each other, and everything was as it is, in fact, that is, yesterday. It seems to me that their true feelings, true relationships towards each other were revealed directly such. What it is, but, apparently, the United States was on time, but they said to stop, because already if we talk about the day today and is melting, the other side slowly began to backtrack and talk about what he misunderstood, this is not so. First. Yes, this one didnt broadcast it right, it was something e not from that opera, but i sat down, yes, but we saw how their relationship developed , just uh, youre surprised. Rhetorical antagonists poland and ukraine for many centuries , two large european nations that compete are the two largest european agricultural producers. What is causing the conflict over Agricultural Products . Everything is very clear and its as if biden or the Washington Regional Committee didnt give some fight to this antagonism. He will remain and will not go anywhere, plus memory , plus memory about the rubberized war, the same volyn. Yes, the poles did not forget, they pretended that while this topic was pushed into the background, all this would be fueled, but the most important thing. And what is real. Around the world , donors are tired and tired of supporting, lets say, well, endlessly, a few dozen billions, you cant. You see, by sending efficiency measures now , something breakthrough was expected from ukraine from these actions. That is, the counteroffensive, which was very widely announced, is then very widely covered, where they talk about it. So we liberated one there, the populated area around it is swelled by victory. And at the same time, they are absolutely silent about the real tens of thousands of casualties that occurred only during this relatively small counteroffensive. Ukraine has remained silent about, uh, where these billions are disappearing. E in the form of a military help, how the equipment is being ground, but they are the head of the senate majority, where did the 110 billion american dollars go, the question is, what is the equipment burning and russia shows how they say that once upon a time leopards burned. Now these sad english challenger tanks are burning, everyone is waiting for the abrams. Yes , to see how the american wonderful iron burns and with all this, with all this, uh, ukraine is not demonstrating today. Eh, real opportunities to win. She demonstrates in the person of zelensky , who went like an international earplug. So i went to ask again. Give us, then give us everything, but at the same time. We saw absolutely boorish style on the part of the ukrainian leadership. You owe us you owe us the same thing as here. Eh, zelensky began to talk from the un rostrum about what ought and who owes ukraine that sensible people. Eh, even on the other side they grabbed their heads, who we brought to power, despite the fact that it is a cardboard parsley that repeats these words. By put in his ears, but when there was a story that we very much regret the withdrawal of Ukrainian Nuclear weapons. And we would really like to have it and would use it here , and now its starting to evoke some kind of melancholy and horror, because if we give it to ukraine. We see the weapons that they ask for, if we give them weapons, uh, with a high range, despite all the promises. Thats six months ago. There was a whole hysteria there give or take, we will give, but so that they dont use the same highmores to bomb russian territories, because they are afraid, that they flew back, but the fact is that today ukraine, one way or another, is still starting to enter russian territory. While they are still like that , otherwise they do not have weapons that allow them to do this. They are doing it now with drones. But if you give it, then it is 100 that they accepted it, that is, a state that did not see the borders of the red lines. They will hit the kremlin, so for the west it is difficult for the west, because they dont want, they are not ready now for fullscale responses from russia in relation to. The west or ukraine even thats why the west is now starting to restrict mr. Zelensky and thats all from the mosquitoes. Its in these very means. Although we are also coming and will give, but on a smaller scale. Yes, they begin correctly, duda said when he compared ukraine to drowning people, trying to follow everyone else. They are now declared to be in this situation. It is ukraine that is sinking and dragging everyone else along with it and they are sinking into this uh, the bottom whether they want it or not, therefore, well, plus she said that we will not supply. At first there were weapons in general, and then they said, we they said the latest weapons, because now this weapon about itself is that it was possible to throw off the old stuff from soviet times. Everything has already been sent, cleaned from roma and europe. Yes, it has already been ground and now we are talking about what if we send modern weapons, which, firstly, cost much more. Secondly, you need to have your own supply, and if they are not replenished as quickly as we would like, this is what is holding back western agility today, although no one, of course, will refuse. We see today that if there was a desire from the west somehow negotiate with russia, then zelensky would have spoken out in one way or another and would have been seated at the negotiating table, but this is a stubborn position and voiced by western speakers that peace will come when russia serves weapons and withdraws its troops from ukraine, in the territory before the ninetyfirst year, were voiced directly by the americans. Yes. Uh, when we see today that, uh, no one is going to cancel this decree that banned zelensky. Conduct negotiations signed by himself. Eh, when no one sees any progress. Theres even third parties. Like turkey, which once tried to actively promote the idea, neither turkey nor china were allowed to resolve these issues, and uh, we see that while the west is not ready for negotiations, ukraine in this case, fulfilling its will, nothing can be done. Eh, i want to say that if the need for negotiations arises, it will be done without zelensky. That is, he will be an unnecessary figure here. Now, as soon as there is a need to reconcile, zelensky will be removed one way or another, elections not elections alexey, tell me, you really believe that the anglosaxons will never stop fighting for their home. What are they doing . I told you, yes, thats what they do. Look at the same thing, poland, a very interesting scheme. We say it is overloaded there. Where in korea do they buy south korea . What is south korea . Its the same satellite as poland, just a selection, but on the other hand , its an american country. Here again america is making money; in fact , america is making money again through south korea, again in poland, and all these schemes and things will work. What kind of conflicts on the perimeter of russia or on the perimeter of china will all work . Damir has changed, but it is clearly necessary to understand that the anglosaxons will not stop the ukrainian army. Yes, yes, i believe that indeed the americans and the british. Moreover , we will continue to pump up weapons if the ukrainians run out. I think they will begin to withdraw the poles, this is absolutely obvious, that is, they did not start all this in order to stop it in the near future. Yes, there may be intensity somewhere. The fighting will decrease, but for what . That is, it will be possible to blame everything he comes up with. I think not. No no, and hmm, even if some republican skeptic about ukraine comes , but there is a huge vc, we saw that trump was unable to deploy the american holiday machine, of course, so while you are working , weapons will be supplied, and they will really be dosed, so that ukraine cannot win and inflict some catastrophic damage on russia, but they will give something, they will give something, and at 16 they will give it and will gradually gradually thinking that russia needs to be kept in such a permanent regime, but it cannot keep the defense indefinitely. They are already openly declaring that this is a wellthoughtout tactic; i dont know whether its true or not. Why, they already know and are simply destroying the fighting assault troops. But russia can go forward. Maybe, but you need to understand that for this she needs to prepare and it seems to me that i army must be this is happening. It seems to me more of a defensive tactic. But, if we are talking about a breakthrough and a turning point, then this is probably, the army should be different , they thought that there, i dont know, 300 thousand fought before this, 300,000 were mobilized. Everyone said little, and suddenly it turned out that 300,000 had almost already signed up. Total, uh, we can consider that a million and thats not counting the regular armies of the Russian Federation. Yes, but still we must understand that a major operation in the kharkov direction or in the odessa direction is five hundred thousand people, that is, here they are, yes , if they exist, they are ready, then the probability of an attack is high, odessa thats what i m talking about, odessa this is probably the most important point because it needs to be controlled, and the black sea is in russia, but i would like to say even more, in my opinion, yes, the contradictions between ukraine and poland are huge inside. Eh, a big position is the creation of this dill, what do they call it . Uni new. Yes, there is an ultraright confederation, they are already tired of ukraine, but in my opinion. There is still some performance here. Here duda morovetsky plays a little bit of his voters and shows them. Yes, to take away these arguments from their critics on the right and say, but we are defending you. So well see how everything is it will subside. After the elections, the poles, of course, will not give up on ukraine. They have already entered there a long time ago, including in some key positions, but ukraine will not be able to resist them. Yes, they make some statements, but this is all tinsel; who else but poland will help them, the regimes. I mean zelensky, so they will obey and will obey, the elections will be held , they will forget about the farmers, and they will return again to the program. Uh, mastering the annexation of soft western ukraine. And maybe not only the west. There are also media dimensions of this conflict between Poland Ukraine between regime