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And here in the right corner is a link to our telegram channel, where there are more details of our behindthescenes behind thescenes life, our opinions and what remains on air in it. Hello and lets start good evening. Last week there were two interesting news, one of them is somehow connected. As a matter of fact, the second one is related to our wallet, as if it is not very clear. The first one is connected with our wallet, well, it became known about that there is deflation in the country. Let s try to figure out what it is and roughly speaking, what is it eaten with . How will this affect our events . And the second is the meeting of two president s, Alexander Lukashenko and, lets take vladimirovich putin, in fact, two big topics were announced there. The first is the International Situation around our border, the second topic is, well, economic cooperation. And thats how it is for me. The main thing is that i saw the synchronization on television, here is a short interview that i saw from sochi this was an interview with Alexander Lukashenko who said how he sees the next year and again the main phrase that was there, and i hope that we will reach the sanctions period, and everything will be fine with us. And i understand perfectly well that this economic decline happened due to the fact that sanctions were imposed on us , searching for supply chains, searching for new investors, but still, well, understand what the presanction period is. What is the sanctions period . And will we get out of it . And kostya ill start with you, a person who is competent in economics. Thats why you were in vladivostok at the Economic Forum . Yes, as a field reporter who works there, yes, to understand the situation. And what is the attitude towards belarusian goods, not technology, just goods in primorye . We know very well that this is a network of belarusian stores, no matter what they are called, it stretches from bryansk to vladivostok this is the first the second exhibition is still not about well, roughly speaking, average bill the exhibition is about millions dollars, of course, your opinion, your feelings, maybe some comments about how the meetings between belarusians and russia took place. Well, kiril vladimirovich yes , the eastern Economic Forum for the belarusian delegation was probably such a definite synchronization of watches with the far east. And, of course, the personality of the governor. Kozhemyaka. She stood like that separately, because you need to understand that this person, firstly, is an ethnic belarusian and has such warm relations with the president of our country. They talk about this a lot and of course the conversation of our ambassador Dmitry Krutoy and mikhail yasenkovich, who was also present there as part of the belarusian delegation. They showed that the building faces east. We will only gain momentum; the task for the next five years is to increase trade turnover with the far east to one billion dollars. And now, of course, thats it. I will repeat once again moving. In such a good way, thanks to the current governor, that is, the purchase of belarusian equipment, and propaganda in a good way, in the good sense of the word. What was the attitude towards the exhibition . Ill explain it to you there china is nearby for us, china no matter how much we say that it is our strategic partner. This is also our strategic competitor, because what belarusians produce is also produced in china. Therefore, we also have to compete with china in a small way. Remark you say, china. It seems to me that in fact, maybe i m wrong. And when the time was chosen only due to the price. Mm, maybe cheaper goods, but now there is also a political moment here. This is what kostya is talking about. And why can they, of course, with china is very difficult very difficult to compete, you need to understand that chinese manufacturers. This is no longer consumer goods. They are ready to offer their equivalent for any belarusian equipment in different price segments, etc. And of course, the promotion of belarusian goods in the far east, where china is just a stones throw away, is primarily political lobbying. Here are the statistics that i heard from the governor kozhemyako, if we take the entire loaf of belarusian equipment that goes to the far east , 90 , uh, if yes, in the belarusian yes region of equipment 90 is purchased from the state budget, only 10 are private businessmen, that is , the municipal city federal budget buys belarusian equipment from businessmen. They look a little differently. Yes, they look at the service. They look at price and so on. Moreover, you need to understand that sanctions are sanctions. Okay. But if you are in the far east and you need to buy japanese equipment, you will buy it. Yes, it will be 40 more expensive there than before the sanctions. Its clear. Well , after all, yes, from the ministry of industry. We are speaking always about the fact that our technology is competitive. Our technology can also show itself. Its better there than our competitors, and our equipment is the best there. Excellent technology in the world, we say there we film a report normal normal and when the sanctions happened we talked about the fact that the russian market is huge, it can absorb, well, almost everything that we produce, and then after a while there, well, 1. 52 years we were talking about the fact that the chinese are competing with us precisely due to the fact that they have parts somewhere more available somewhere in terms of service and many experts. They say that we have already reached our maximum and in terms of trade with russia, from an industrial point of view, we have already reached it. Now there will be a rollback, whether it is true or not , first literally in two figures on the results, well , of the past year, or rather. Well, how we work today and it would seem. Eh, sanctions happened, which means, of course, a very difficult period. When all enterprises had to almost urgently turn around and look for new ways of new partners in this situation. Just the same it is characteristic that our main partner , the Russian Federation, uh, practically, we found a common language with them and were able to supply, uh, the bulk of our goods. E to the Russian Federation that is, just export. For us in the Russian Federation last year it was more than 150 . Despite the fact that total exports. Uh, we also showed an increase of 115 . If we talk about enterprises of the ministry of industry, this year the trend continues, yes. Eh, the dynamics may be slowing down a little, that is, we now have orderly exports from the Russian Federation 140 is a little more than 140 , uh, yes absolutely so uh, well, he is he and he is quite the essence of 140 . This is a high pace and next year we predict that we will grow, but of course, probably, the pace will decrease, because look, yes. It will decrease because there are many niches where we could already occupy them, which means thats all. Eh, its more difficult and difficult to really compete with the conversation supported by the chinese a little differently. Yes, on the topic under discussion, uh, that question even not only in the ministry of industry or Industrial Enterprises. There is such a thing as Financial Support from a point of view. These are preferential loans, installment plans, there and so on. There, like china, there are no selfmeasuring Financial Resources in relation to Belarusian Enterprises. As such , the European Union is even going to sue the banks due to the fact that cheap electric vehicles we are talking about need to talk about the finances of industrial groups of operations, this is what we are really talking about today. We shouldnt even overtake. At least not to lag behind china, but there are questions here. I would like to explain to your colleague who said that 90 of this comes from the region after all. I think not the federal region. Well, probably this point of view too. Well, probably, it seems to me that it characterizes the state approach. Why . Because today one job, in particular in Mechanical Engineering, creates from 7 to 12 jobs in related industries, including in the Russian Federation, that is , their private enterprise is a little parochial, yes, selfish, yes pragmatic, but a parochial approach, original organs, federal authorities. Why are they attracted . This is not priesthood, its not even that he is ethnically belarusian, its just that the vision of the problem is much more stateowned and they. We are talking about the fact that even russia, a strategic partner, talks about cooperation, the same import substitution programs. This is the involvement of russian and Belarusian Enterprises in one production chain. Here it is too dude im so china this is a different country. They dont care about such problems at all. On the contrary, they need to tighten things up. We have there so to speak, recycle it and supply it, including to the Russian Federation. On friday i was at the dialogue site at the minsk Electrical Engineering plant named after kozlov, in fact, for the majority of residents. Belarus is, well, an enterprise that produces something. And what is not clear, and they began to tell me that the average salary is 2,600. We work in three shifts, most often on saturday and sunday. Yes, they make transformers. This is a serious story, he says, we have grown in numbers over the past year and a half. We are building an additional building in order to assemble our paint shop; we bought a new installation from china, that is. Strictly speaking, an enterprise. Its growing, growing, growing. I say okay. Where do you sell . He says, russia but the funny thing is that he says we also sell to europe. She says we sell to europe. Well, of course, no one discloses these supply chains, but he says we had very large orders. There were the same increases. There are large orders from europe and he says, well, in fact, people understand that this is really a technique, which is in terms of price and quality. Very uh, well, kind of worthy and thats why we really are renewing these chains. Here is the resumption of these chains. Over the past year and a half , the president has said that sanctions are, well, just another reason. Yes, in order to find new markets, find new people who will work. But the restoration of these new markets or old new markets. Russia is clear. And Everything Else. Well, of course, this task is very important today, because we understand that on the one hand. Oh no matter how much russia could not accept it, but in any case we need to think about diversification and supplies to other markets, of course, first of all. Here uh, go out to uh. The first place is the markets that are countries that have, lets say, good relations with us and are ready to cooperate, no matter what, with us and our enterprises. These are, first of all, countries. The cis is the countries of africa, these are the countries of asia , but here yes, the second question is logistics, which means we understand that to deliver the goods, uh, if somewhere through asia, absolutely, so here already it is becoming more difficult for us to compete with our same asian partners. Well, when , uh, sanctions pressure affected russia, such a serious speech was made that, in principle, well, with some basic things, yes , we can provide ourselves with goods there that are the first necessity. The question arose, precisely in technology, we were talking about the fact that somewhere the development of certain directions was slowed down. The same microelectronics. Why did the russians, who for a long time did not support us in some way . Reluctant to share something hmm now. Eh, we are ready to develop that same cooperation even in such a narrow and specific topic. Well , because there is a need, there is a request , and we paid attention to the technopark, including vladimir aleksandrovich, heres how things stand. And now what kind of requests do they come to you with and if we are talking about hmm technologies, which well , perhaps, and now critically important, then this is , well, i well, firstly, with positioning we work with the small and medium sector entrepreneurship. Moreover, entrepreneurs which are production workers who deal with hardware. That is, this is something that you can touch with your hands. They are releasing some specific products based on the request that we have, that is, we need to distinguish between two types of requests, firstly, from the entrepreneurs who are inside, who are starting their own business or are going to continue to develop it, but they need to decide, as if the first global task is to get hooked somewhere in good conditions. We provide this opportunity. That is, we have several sites around the city, the largest one. Now reconstruction is actively progressing. At partizansky eight there are also traditional pumps. There are still promising sites that will also be reconstructed soon, but still. We try to work with every business and entrepreneur who contacts us. Well, its not just about posting. This is the concept of his problems, and to help solve them , to help gain access to resources and uh, and perhaps listen, promote to the foreign market without providing, uh, enough , serious tax breaks. Yes, tax privileges. This means that we are not united, that is, we are not alone in the world. More precisely, in belarus or in the universe we have the great stone. Eat. If the pvt has its own client, it means that it is a more advanced enterprise. If you touch the licago stone or this is pure, if you touch the pvt, although there is no longer only pure axis, but we have our own segment, which means that we work with, but we work not only with those. Who has already come to us . And with those who, in principle, want to settle somewhere , we help them, and we look for other sites around the city and also try to understand them problems and solve these problems. What are the areas of finance resources, technological human resources, and product promotion. Eh, Consulting Services for help simply show which doors to knock on, where you can save on bank interest, where you can refinance at a lower interest rate, where you can get some kind of technological support, that is, for operations within the Technology Park itself. Well, i also wanted to say with an external request. That is, no matter how often in many exhibitions, but always fit. Eh, foreigners, for example, yesterday there was a wonderful exhibition. Eh, velomonezhe, that means the iranians were retreating. And everyone here has a request, but for some reason everyone is trying to sell what they produce, for example, on the belarusian market. Well, in order for them to want to buy, you need to at least surprise them. Here, in fact, our task is to find enterprises or entrepreneurs who are doing something that will surprise our foreign partners with what foreigners have highlighted. So this is the last example. We were talking about china , and our partners from the middle kingdom are for they came to us twice in the last month. These were representatives of the embassy and representatives of such a structure as the sco commercialization center. But they are positioned in china, they are in china. So we got acquainted with the products of some residents. And you will be surprised, both of them became interested in one product , which is being made in our technopark, made by our belarusian company, which paid for this product and those, the chinese once lamented. So this is guess what. Yes, this is coffee, this is coffee with us. Uh, they grow watermelons melons here are those who are watching. Well, i also understand that the Technology Parks that exist in russia are also becoming a definite object of our attention. For example, last year, the mayor of minsk, Vladimir Evgenievich kukharev, went to ulyanovsk, there was a large Technology Park , what do you take from there, because, well, if they are already working with this, we are starting to work here, probably some, well, aspects of conventional cities we adopt our brothersinarms or simply our partners. We carefully monitor the situation regarding the development of Technology Parks in the Russian Federation they have an association of Technology Parks and industrial clusters. Hundreds of people go there, maybe already 1,000. And so to speak, the participants. We even measure somewhere and the state committee for science and technology also measures our positions in their ratings. So we have good positions, rather closer to the top third. Even maybe a quarter, uh, but what can we take there that we lack, for example, if we take the largest, like their park, this is skolkovo , you take there the competencies that we need from our uh residents of ours we will work on there are also many competitions of the republic, entrepreneurs participate in them. Regardless of the locat