Hello, on belarus 1 and belarus 24, the club of editors, we will discuss the most important topics of the outgoing week, i will introduce the guests who are present in our studio today, by the way, the leaders of the two largest parties in our country, but i will introduce myself later, lets start with alexandrovich zhuk, our good tradition, and we observe traditions in our club, head of the sb belarus holding today, director of the Representative Office of the world in. 1020, 100 people, well, okay, no, well , it was there for some holiday, i saw, there were probably hundreds, and maybe and there were a couple of thousand, but this is nothing, an insignificant figure compared to the fact that about 10 Million People are citizens of the republic of belarus, which means that this is an iron rule, by the way, the president talks about this, it means we are doing everything right, i believe that in we will only strengthen our state. What is 30 years independence on a historical scale, this is how they will talk about these times 200 years later, how many pages will be devoted to this in textbooks for us, this is a whole huge, important life, in fact , the belarusian state is going through the stage of formation, thank god, so far without bloodshed, in my opinion, thats enough. Successfully, in general, i wont talk for a long time on this topic, i would like to hear your opinion, it should not be confused with other bodies, with the functions that they have, after all, this is a strategic thing, a fundamental thing, in allbelarusian the Peoples Assembly will decide, among other things , the future of our country, where we will move, and as for. There is no need to plan anything, life itself will show, it develops naturally, the market will decide, the market will decide, at the same time , the most successful countries at that time, and which maintain their success graying, i say, for example, the peoples republic of china, about the so called asian tigers, they have strategic plans until the fiftieth year, perhaps now they are already drawing up plans for more further, its as if there is no planning in the usa, of course, there is also Strategic Planning there and there are large corporations that. Are doing this, for example, and a number of others, and so, our country did not follow the lead of these slogans, lets cancel planning, from the very beginning of the presidency of Alexander Grigorievich lukashenko, we began to plan, we have fiveyear plans, we have a movement from one task to another, which the belarusian Peoples Assembly and other significant bodies of our country set for themselves, so i see the task of the seventh allbelarusian Peoples Assembly. That we will again look into the future, and not into the shortterm future, what will happen tomorrow, in a month, into the future for years, at least for five years, but a truly approved concept of national security, the military doctrine of our country, i am sure that the president s report will also outline the most serious underlying trends in the development of belarusian society, this will be the foundation for years and decades to come, this is what i see as the main task of the allbelarusian Peoples Assembly, Strategic Planning, the moreover, that. They say more than once in russia and in belarus, throughout the union state, to protect the country from the new yeltsin, from the new gorbachev, from the fact that some populist or some Political Force could break the country and its foundations. Moreover, if someone starts talking to our opponents about democracy, then all the countries that teach us something there are protected. Whoever becomes president of the United States of america, we understand perfectly well that globally the system of the United States of america. Same most importantly, poland, we remember the elections in poland, when no matter who became president , poland would never join nato and no radical change in its Foreign Policy would occur. We have much more democracy, people power, than they do. Next, what does an allbelarusian Peoples Assembly mean for the country . This is one of the mechanisms that will ensure the stability of all branches of power. And one more thing, when we talk about planning and Strategic Planning, then within the framework, if we take politics, dont take the economy now, but if i talk purely about politics, then all absolutely Political Forces of the country, all Political Parties, all public organizations, Civil Society as a whole, which is provided for by law, which, by the way, is all in great detail described, they must act within the framework of the course that has determined the entire belarusian assembly. Now democracy, this does not mean that there is no arguing, but there is a strategy, heres how to arrive at this strategy, figuratively speaking, we must prevent the emergence of the one who came said we are leaving the union of russia, we are completely changing the course of the country there to the west, there is no need for free health care, there is no need for education, that is, what we have achieved over these years, god forbid that we then Start Building again, the last thing i want to say on this topic, this is still not a guarantor, i remember very well. A meeting with the president dedicated to the thirtieth anniversary of the constitution, he said about this that in general ideal mechanisms do not exist, and he himself answered later, so no do this he said to do. But well see how it all works, this is in any case a completely new stage in the development of our country, yes there were allbelarusian peoples assemblies, but never as a constitutional body, they were not, and the powers are now absolutely new, more serious, why are we doing this we are doing it now, we can later correct something, time will tell how it will work, how the system of power will work, the main thing is not to destroy anything, but to go in this evolutionary way, everything is correct, you said even more, thats it, that the allbelarusian Peoples Assembly, the foundation on which it will be. Decisions are made not by anyone in particular, not by any specific branch of government , are imposed on the majority, when after all it is a collegial body that develops a strategy for the further development of the country and builds belarus future, well, as far as democracy is concerned, our opponents, who are watching our program very carefully abroad, will probably say where are we . Well, i can answer this question from my bell tower, if you remember until 2020 they they were successful here and even now they boast about who financed them and how much they were financed. Financing from abroad of certain structures or individuals with the aim of overthrowing the Constitutional Order in a nonconstitutional way, it seems to me, should completely exclude the participation of such people in such events, if it were in the conditions, yes, in which we lived before, or in which people who have some contacts abroad behaved the same way as they do in the United States of america, in germany, yes, although. There its hard to imagine that any member of the German Parliament would be caught being financed from moscow, can you imagine what a scandal, in general, they, they cut it all off for themselves, they shout from all the stands that we are coaggressors, yes, that we are participants in the war together with the russian federation, i will tell them, since we are participants in the war, it means that according to the laws of war , no, well, i will say that in fact, the highest valor of those you were talking about is to make expensive british boots shine, yes here. For the population a lot will depend on perception of this body, but what can we talk about today, thanks to the president , we have passed this path of reforms without bloodshed, yeah. Someone was driven, yes, what kind of persecution, we saw with our own eyes, and all the people saw, elections have now taken place on a single voting day, deputies were elected, we saw what the turnout was, and people decided, so, gentlemen, there are western centers, we dont care about your opinion on the elections, on the referendum, and even more so on what the people decide at the allbelarusian Peoples Assembly, it is the belarusian people who will decide the fate of this country, not you, so we will be ready for dialogue, please, but only equally. Groups, based on the interests of the individual, who must be protected and supported, but at the same time relying on our traditions, some kind of communitarianism, and the understanding that the public good should be higher than the personal good, at some point individuals should moderate their personal appetites and tighten our belts a little, but we are forming our own, absolutely unlike anything else, belarusian model. Legislative authorities, executive, judicial, plus the involvement of that very Civil Society, which we have been told for so long that we dont have, but now it has appeared, Political Parties and at the same time public organizations, and we have a state, lets not be shy, there is a corporatist model of building states, here is the western american model, its easy for them to do, they have divided their society into a large number of small groups, they work with them. These groups are represented by various ngos, ngos, and they are essentially manipulated, that is, the state there, more precisely, if we already say, there is not a state, but there are politicaleconomic elites, rather even economicpolitical ones, who govern, who act based on their elite interests, and they manipulate this Civil Society, which is specially atomized, fragmented, they put forward only , others are pushed aside. On the contrary , there really is one big trade union, society, we have created a large Representative Office, the trade unions are pitting them against each other, we have taken a different path, we have consolidated the civil representing all workers, and how many 80 people do you have, women are represented on the Supreme National assembly, they are not in the social party, there will be a party in the belarusian 173, so we have consolidated, there are 173. It is public, yes, these are indeed issues that are decided by society, strategies that are being built, strategies after indepth discussion, remember, after the twentieth year we went to the constitutional referendum through a twoyear period of dialogue platforms, where from the very bottom to the very top all issues were worked out, discussed many times, listened to the opinions of everyone who is allowed and who is not allowed, western diplomats have now been invited, but there will be representatives of friendly countries, not really, yes, but they will be, it will all be broadcast, the leaders of the largest media are sitting here, who will show everything, tell about everything, everyones word will be carried forward, it turns out that we are not hiding anything from anyone, it is the people who participate in the discussion, we have interaction both between the authorities and between Civil Society and all branches of government, it turns out to be an allbelarusian the Peoples Assembly. Its formation is that our citizens, in particular the delegates, are being pulled up, as if pulled to a higher level, or something of public awareness, 100 of the gnh is not about the quality of drinking water, roads there, or anything else our everyday problems, for this there are local authorities, by the way, they are all the chairmen of the District Executive committees there in the national assembly, yes, this moment makes the delegates think. Its just such a direct movement, the state has decided, society must do it, any democratic, peoplepower society must have feedback, that is, through honest journalism, through expert opinion, through understanding the needs of people that are not expressed in one way or another, and these channels should be diverse, one of these channels is the allbelarusian Peoples Assembly, people from all over the world come there different regions, they come with their ideas and requests. Of course, not all of these ideas and requests will be voiced from a high podium, but by the way, no one has canceled such a phenomenon of political life as backstage communication, in in the good sense of the word, people will communicate, people will exchange their impressions with each other, of course, all this information will be, no one is hiding it, generalized, systematized, brought to the highest Political Leadership of our country, this is also important, here is ivan mikhailovich, you we started our question and somehow, maybe i got away from it a little, when i answered your first question, in what mood are people going, i share my observations of how we formed this pool of delegates from belaya russia 80 people , one of the most important dimensions of this mood, this public mood, which was expressed by almost everyone, this is pride and responsibility, i will not hide, many people would like to be included in these eighty delegates, but this time it was not possible, well, in the end there is a quota, there is a certain amount that was needed next alexey viktorovich, its okay, i was in the sixth, i believe that i was also in the historical one. B we are creating a wide field of active people who will express their will, their ideas, not through comments in a telegram or semidestructive ones, but through the direct expression of ones will at the allwhite peoples meeting, there is another human factor, since they started talking about the human fact, i didnt interrupt a single person, that means if we talk, if we talk about the human factor, there is another important point, i will support that the selection was really. We looked at how the nomination of delegates went from public organizations and in other ways, it really was, the competition was huge, but this is not by chance, its in, that every person who will sit in the constitutional body that determines the countrys strategy, decides the fate of the country, and no matter what constitutions we adopt, no matter what laws we adopt, no matter how we model the political system, this human factor cannot be removed anywhere, i always have the ussr before my eyes. There was a bad constitution, there was an excellent constitution, the Supreme Council of the ussr, how they were elected, these people saved the country at a certain moment, arent they all ashamed now for what they did there, starting in 1985, ending in 1991, im sure and i know, they later admitted in an interview that many were ashamed of how they behaved in those years, so this human factor is extremely important, we were lucky in 94, the first president ial elections were held, lukashenko was elected, and if it werent for him. Ukraine already existed, we could have taken a different vector of development. Russia is lucky with putin, lucky. The west was already sure that russia would not exist. Raw appendage. Yeltsin, now he ll put someone there, hell move on. Will destroy russia, nothing there will be nothing left of it, you already remember how the governors had powers, more than anyone, they were lucky, so people, understanding this, it seems to me, took the public organizations so seriously, which belaya rus, the womens union, trade unions took so seriously to the choice of these delegates, because a lot will depend on this human factor, at a certain historical moment these people can either save the country or destroy it, they want washington wants, they can want what they want, they want, yes, but we have our own interests, we we must proceed from them, we have our own geopolitical space, a historical space in which we lived and coexisted, we cannot lose it under any circumstances, therefore all these desires to reorient belarus towards the western vector, to begin to lure it with sweet carrots, as already for many years they have been beckoning to ukraine, european integration, nato integration and everything else, it needs to be very clear. Im alex sergeevich, this is what i want, this is what i want to say, that there is a very good trend in the postsoviet space in terms of about the fact that many countries in georgia have had enough of western interference, you see what is happening, yes, but i really liked it, or rather i didnt like it, but i liked it because it is extremely indicative when a representative of the collective west hits his opponent in the face, this i was reminded by the action of our socalled opposition in fact. Did they really forget, when i said that i was pleased, this is a clear, not a reminder, but a prediction to the residents of the republic of belarus, what would happen if mikhailovich were, thats about rally, i always look at such rallies, just imagine, the georgians came home, which means that a normal person is interested in peace, salary, pension, children, and he suddenly sits, listen, there is some kind of law on foreign agents, lets go to a rally, because that it is clear that this is not a problem of the people, this is a problem of a political group. We just need to realize that you want to cast it in metal somewhere else in the eyes of the west, we are not partners, we are food supply for them, and that girl who looks great and speaks good english is that sheep, which they raised and which itself will go to slaughter, no one will carry out any struggle for free, so everything is built on money, that is, when we let ngo funds into the country, allow the party to be financed abroad, its all over for the country, its all as good as new co. Just this story, another good news came from kyrgyzstan, on april 2 the law on foreign agents was signed, in connection with this, the Soros Fo