went on a friday night, i was 13, my mum was— went on a friday night, i was 13, my mum was dead as far as i was concerned _ mum was dead as far as i was concerned. i have loads of issue us about— concerned. i have loads of issue us about that — concerned. i have loads of issue us about that so i did a series for 5 live _ about that so i did a series for 5 live called _ about that so i did a series for 5 live called losing mum which dealt with how— live called losing mum which dealt with how children deal with that and what should happen and what didn't, and rachael had the idea for the podcast — and rachael had the idea for the podcast at the same time so it was symbiotic, — podcast at the same time so it was symbiotic, i— podcast at the same time so it was symbiotic, i talked to her, she talked — symbiotic, i talked to her, she talked to— symbiotic, i talked to her, she talked to me and that is the way it went, _ talked to me and that is the way it went, and — talked to me and that is the way it went, and she educated me beyond all belief about talking honestly about cancer, _ belief about talking honestly about cancer, i _ belief about talking honestly about cancer, i would say things on air and she — cancer, i would say things on air and she would glare at me, you know that! i_ and she would glare at me, you know that! i was _ and she would glare at me, you know that! i was her radio husband and i only got— that! i was her radio husband and i only got half of it. she could deal with situations rachael, and what you have — with situations rachael, and what you have done, you three and four, isjust_ you have done, you three and four, isjust absolutely you have done, you three and four, is just absolutely incredibleerer i feelt— is just absolutely incredibleerer i feelt it — is just absolutely incredibleerer i feelt it is — is just absolutely incredibleerer i feelt it is like said to you earlier_ feelt it is like said to you earlier sarah —— steve, it is like she said marvel assemble. earlier sarah —— steve, it is like she said marvelassemble. | earlier sarah -- steve, it is like she said marvel assemble. i have a similar story. _ she said marvel assemble. i have a similar story. my — she said marvel assemble. i have a similar story, my mum's _ she said marvel assemble. i have a similar story, my mum's mum i she said marvel assemble. i have a similar story, my mum's mum died before i was born, and the family didn't know until a week or two before she died he was ill, and to