are people, obviously, who are walking from the other side. jacinta and her team have got through to transfer the supplies. maria vachnych is the ukrainian contact. it's really dangerous. she will take the aid into the war zone to help those in need. we take a car, or by railway, take these to the cities that are bombed. and how would you describe the situation on the ground with civilians? civilians are very scared. the people who come from regions that are bombed are really scared. many people, they don't have a home now. so it's hard, but we should stay, because we don't have another way.