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Experts say it puts some people at unnecessary risk of building up a resistance. We will be looking at the evidence. 50 years ago today, homosexuality was partially decriminalised in england and wales. Prime minister theresa may says the Conservative Party have been wrong in the past but have Come A Long Way we will take a look at what that means. Hello and welcome to the programme, were live until 11 this morning. Coming up, we will look at the wildfires which have swept across france. And charlie gards parents have until noon to decide whether he will go to a hospice. Do get in touch on all the stories were talking about this morning use the Hashtag Victoria Live and if you text, you will be charged at the Standard Network rate. Our top story today. The government has taken what is being described as a major step in developing a new immigration policy. Home secretary amber rudd is asking independent Migration Experts to analyse the role of eu nationals living and working in the uk. They will report back next september six months before the uks deadline to leave the european union. However, critics say the study has been commissioned too late. Our political guru norman smith is in westminster. Norman, just explain first of all, what exactly is the government doing . Here we are a year on from the referendum and the government decided they need to get a grip on the contribution that eu nationals make to our economy, where they work, what sort of role they play, how Certain Industries may depend on them, whether other countries have a greater need for them, and our labour shortages, to get a Bigger Picture on how much we need eu nationals, and to come up with a strategy for our new Immigration System when we leave the eu. What is significant about this is the way the Home Secretary amber rudd has said to business, i know you are worried, i know you have concerns. I hear you, come and tell me what you are worried about. That has led to fears among some Leave Campaigners that this report will be a way of the government climbing down on tough immigration curbs. They will say business is very worried about this, im not sure we can impose quite as tight curbs as people might like. This morning, the immigration minister Brandon Lewis sought to quash that idea, insisting that when we leave the eu in march 2019, that will be the end of freedom of movement, and the public will have a clear idea of the new immigration rules. Have a listen to what he said. We are very clear about this, as is the Home Secretary in her notes which she has outlined to the commission. Free movement ends when we leave the european union. We have also been clear about having a smooth process which can make our economy prosper. The commissions work will help inform what industries and sectors need within the new structure of immigration as they go forward. What is interesting is both mr lewis and amber rudd are saying when we leave in march 2019, that does not mean the new system starts them, it will be phased in gradually. We do not know how long that process will be. It could stretch up to four years and experts say getting a new visa system in place could take years. So getting the new Immigration System might not come into force. As i said earlier on since the brexit vote, why has it taken so long . They will induce the bet brexit Immigration Bill. It is all the bits higgledy piggledy, you have to say, the new Immigration Bill will be introduced at the start of the year. It all seems a little bit out of sequence. It all seems a little bit out of sequence. Or to speak to. Lets head over to the bbc newsroom. Ben brown is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. The parents of the terminally ill baby, charlie gard, have until midday to agree with great 0rmond Street Hospital how his life will end. Theyve accepted that charlie will spend his last days in a hospice rather than at home, but chris gard and connie yates are asking to spend more time with their son before life support is taken away. A 16 Year Old Girl found dead on a railway is thought to have been electrocuted. Taiyah pebbles was discovered at Herne Bay Station in kent on wednesday morning. British transport police said the teenager was pronounced dead at the scene after sustaining serious injuries believed to be caused by electrocution. A postmortem will take place on friday. Wild fires are continuing to burn in parts of Southern France. Thousands of people have been forced to leave their homes and campsites around the town of Bormes Les Mimosas. Many are spending a second night on beaches, or in sports halls and other public buildings. At least 6,000 firefighters and troops are now battling the flames. Harvey biggs reports. For a third night, the skies glowed red in Southern France as fierce wildfires continued to burn out of control. Hillsides engulfed by flames in Bormes Les Mimosas, west of st tropez. Local residents joining firefighters to battle the blaze that has forced the evacuation of over 10,000 people. Having watched the flames inch closer and closer on wednesday, thousands of tourists took the chance to flee. Many had spent the last two nights in the public shelters or camping out on the beach. Translation we evacuate because of the fire is coming close to the place. So we pay attention. We left with our clothes and a little food. Residents who fled the flames have now begun to return to assess the damage to their homes and properties. Many with stories of narrow escapes. Translation All Of A Sudden we were in front of a wall of flame, near the cypress trees. We did not hesitate. We took some belongings, we took the two dogs and we left. Translation i climbed high on the crest and i saw a picture of desolation, because all the camping was surrounded with flames and we couldnt do anything. Meeting some of the crews and volunteers on the frontline, the french Prime Minister, edouard philippe, said there would be an enquiry into the fires cause, which some have blamed on an arsonists. The powerful and destructive combination of heat and wind set to fuel these fires and test these firefighters once again. Harvey biggs, bbc news. The chief constable of police scotland, phil gormley, has confirmed hes being investigated over allegations of gross professional misconduct. Details of the complaint against phil gormley havent been made public but the bbc understands they relate to his conduct towards a more junior officer. Donald trumps new Communications Director said that the uk and us can almost certainly agree trade deal. There is a group of rich guys and we will break away from the other countries. We are going to disrupt and hack the system. What does that mean . That he will meet us halfway. Hears about reciprocity, about fair and equal trade. The notion you should the notion that you should always finish a course of antibiotics, even if you feel better, is being challenged by a group of leading medical experts. Writing in the British Medical Journal, its argued that taking antibiotics for longer than necessary, can raise the risk of developing a resistance to the drugs. However, englands Chief Medical Officer says people shouldnt change their behaviour because of one study. Growing resistance to antibiotics is an increasing problem around the world. They become less effective because we take so many of them. That means deadly infections spread more easily. Now some researchers say it is time to end the Blanket Prescription that every course should be completed. Writing in the british medicaljournal, a group of experts claim there is no evidence that stopping some antibiotic treatment early increases the risk of infection. They accept more research is needed but suggest new advice, like stop taking them when you feel better, could help. Antiobiotics are wonderful pills. There is already an nhs campaign to cut the use of antibiotics. The Chief Medical Officer says the evidence will be reviewed, but that for now the message remains you should stick to prescriptions, and always follow the doctors advice. The Prime Minister has said the conservatives have Come A Long Way on the issue of gay rights, but that theres still more to do to achieve equality. Theresa may was marking the 50th anniversary today of the partial decriminalisation of homosexuality in england and wales. It decriminalised homosexual acts in private between men aged 21 and over. The duke of cambridge will begin his last shift as an Air Ambulance pilot today before taking up his royal duties full time. For the past two years hes been working for the east Anglian Air Ambulance service. Writing in the Eastern Daily press this morning he says hes been proud to serve. It is a job which has clearly meant a great deal to him, to work as a member of the emergency services. Valued for what he does rather than who he is, flying an airambulance, and helping to save lives. It was more than two years ago that william first reported for duty with the east Anglian Air Ambulance. He had finished as an raf sea rch and rescue pilot, but chose to retrain and qualify for this new role. On his first morning, he explained how much it mattered to him. Im just fantastically excited to be here today, the first day. Its been a long time coming. It has been many exams and training to get here, and im hugely excited to bejoining a very professional bunch of guys and girls, doing such a unique, complex job with the Air Ambulance. In the months since, william has piloted the Air Ambulance to scores of emergencies. He has seen tragedy and extremes of emotion in close quarters. Writing in the Eastern Daily press this morning, he says he is hugely grateful for having had the experience. He says it has instilled in him a profound respect for the men and women in our emergency services. After tonights shift, william will embark on the role which has been his destiny, as a full time, working member of the british royalfamily, taking on more responsibilities in support of his grandmother, but with what are clearly deeply embedded memories of his time as pilot William Wales of the east Anglian Air Ambulance service. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news more at 9. 30. Thank you, ben. Lets get all of the sport from 0lly foster. We have to talk about adam peaty and his incredible achievements in the pool. That is one superlative. They are really running out of things to say about adam peaty. He is 22. He has 110w about adam peaty. He is 22. He has now retained his world titles. He broke his world record twice in the heats and the semifinals. Look at that winning margin. By Over Half A Second He Won and that is the biggest winning margin in the 50 metres breaststroke. He is quite a specimen there. And one of his opponents who came third, the South African Cameron Bundaberg said he has reinvented the breaststroke. It isa has reinvented the breaststroke. It is a hybrid between the butterfly and the breaststroke. It is such an enormous power. He has said he may have to retire and come back when adam peaty gets older. Here is adam peaty. Very exhausting, especially with a double, but i am so happy with a double, but i am so happy with my performances. I know there is more, but i dont want to spoil it for next year or the year after. He has this project 57, hoping to lower the 100 metres breast rope, breaking 57 seconds to the first time. Just speaking after the mixed medley, they didnt get a medal, the british team, but he goes in the mens medley on sunday, every chance for a medalfor peaty mens medley on sunday, every chance for a medal for peaty then. And he is only 22, lets doc about the third test against south africa, england need to turn things around. It will be the 100th test match at the oval, but they lost the second test at trent bridge. They were absolutely thumped by south africa. Joe roots captaincy started with a brilliant win at lords when they beat south africa, so it is a bit of crunch time, this. Whoever loses wont be able to win the series. Weather could be a factor. The covers a re weather could be a factor. The covers are on. Michael vaughan, former skipper, who works for the bbc now, says that england just dont respect to test cricket any more, the way they approach it. It is far too gung ho. They have to learn how to approach the game. Joe root, that is ben stokes bowling, joe root says that criticism has felt a little bit too personal. Joe root says that criticism has felt a little bit too personalm is very important that us as a side remained true to each other. We are very honest in the dressing room, we know we werent good enough last week, but effort has never been the issue. We have got a massive desire to go out this week and put a release from performance in and bounce back strong. Middlesex bowler Toby Roland Jones will make his test debut for england at the oval. We should get the toss in the next hour and a half or Something Like that. It is the Wheelchair Rugby League world cup in france, but wales are threatening to pull out of their match today. They are playing spain, fifth place play off, one of their lawyers, Harryjones Fifth place play off, one of their lawyers, harry jones has fifth place play off, one of their lawyers, harryjones has epilepsy, and he has had a couple of seizures in matches, incredibly worrying, but it has been triggered by photographers getting far too close to the action and using flash photography. They have put signs up everywhere, saying that harry suffers from epilepsy, and to try to move the photographers away from the court. They say if it happens again, clearly, he has had to miss a match because of one of these seizures, they will go off the court. England are in the final of that, playing the hosts france, or italy, tomorrow. They beat australia 78 36 in their semifinal to reach the final. England going well but some concerns over wales, and obviously harryjones, the photographers getting a little bit too close. The last 12 years 20 children have been murdered because they have had contact with an abusive parent. This led to changes to the Current Court guidelines they were announced back injanuary but still have not been signed off by the government. Womens aid say every day the plans are delayed women and childrens lives are being put at risk. They have new research to show that in nearly a quarter of cases where Domestic Violence is alleged unsupervised contact between a father and child is granted. In her first tv interview as womens aids new chief executive, katie ghose joined me in the studio earlier this morning. We also spoke to Sarah Parsons from cafcass a group of Social Workers who are appointed by Family Courts. But we began by talking to zoe dronfield. Zoe was a victim of Domestic Violence, and had her daughter taken from her by the Family Courts. She told me what happened. I was attacked on 2 february 2014. While in hospital, after the attack, i was actually served with papers for custody of my daughter. I then had to discharge myself from hospital, so i was in hospital for about two weeks. And i discharged myself to attend a hearing for custody of my daughter. And during that process, how was it for you . It was hideous, and i even say now that it was worse than the attack itself. To actually be physically attacked, almost killed, and then be thrown into a system that does not believe you or somehow youre held responsible for the violence that youve had, itsjust hideous. It doesnt bear thinking about, really. And your daughter was taken away from you, initially . Yes. Her father got custody, interim custody. We were both litigants in person, so thejudge did not take too kindly to that, to be honest. Talk to us about the process, because were going to speak here to sarah and katie about the process of court. What was that like for you, the actual custody case itself, the hearing, the effect it had on you . 0k, well, isuppose, the first hearing, i arrived at court and he was there. So we came face to face in the waiting room. And he was saying all sorts of things, so that was of course traumatic. And the fact that id just left hospital was getting over a serious a sort, so i was having to deal with that side of things. Then the court itself was really clinical, there was zero emotion, no understanding of the traumatic experience that youre going through really. Because its life changing, decisions are going to be made in that courtroom that are going to affect the rest of your life and the rest of your childrens lives. So, of course, its the biggest thing ever, to be dealing with. And you are kind of ushered through and i wanted to express myself more but you are literally given a limited amount of time to get your point across, and as litigants in person, the judge didnt particularly want to hear us talk at all, i dont think. I think what was taken was the statement that was presented to the judge, which was full of what i would say is perjury, which isnt dealt with in a family court. And that information wasnt even checked to see if it was correct. I believe they just took that statement as a statement of truth, which it wasnt. Zoe stay with us, because i want to bring in sarah and katie. Katie, first of all, can you explain what litigants in person are . Thats when you are having to make your own case and you have not got a lawyer of that with you to do that advocacy, which you can imagine how extra traumatic that could be in the circumstances that zoe has described. And we hear zoes story and we can telljust by hearing that story how traumatic it is even now, zoe, for you to talk about that. We can see that from the way that you are sitting, and talking about it. Are these similar experiences that you were hearing . Sadly, we have heard from women in situations such as the one zoe has described, and others as well, where they have suffered Domestic Abuse and violence, and then have to relive that trauma going through the courts. And sadly we also know that some perpetrators of violence will actively use the Family Courts to continue a campaign of coercive control of their victims. There are lots of issues here and we just need to be mindful and listen and learn from the experiences of zoe and others. We are very pleased that there is refreshed guidance forjudges, that we hope will be out very soon. We want the government to get on and act on that and sign it off. And thats going to make some improvements to the Family Courts, so that they can really make sure that women and their experiences are being listened to. And important changes. Sarah, go through what those changes will be once they are brought in . The new guidance will make sure, for instance, that women who have suffered Domestic Abuse are not cross examined by their perpetrator. People will find that amazing watching this, that this still happens. It doesnt happen in the criminal cases, does it . It doesnt. Its a change that is needed. And the organisation that i am from, cafcass, who look after the best interests of children in these proceedings, have been contributing to the updated guidance and are in favour of those changes. Zoe, do you feel, as we heard there from katie, that there are times when your partner was able to manipulate the system to his benefit . Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it was manipulation right from the very beginning. He used the assault as an opportunity to then ask for an emergency hearing. He then submitted all sorts of lies into the court. I was also cross examined by him. And itjust seemed so surreal. Honestly, its like going into another dimension, thats the only way i can describe it. Its just not real. Why has there been a delay, katie, in these suggestions being implemented, these recommendations by lord justice cobb . I dont know why the delay has been, but were really pleased the guidance been updated. Not least because it makes it Crystal Clear to judges and everyone in the courts, that it is the childs safety and interests that are paramount. And actually, its that which trumps the interests or the wishes of either parents to have contact. So the guidance is good, its going to make difference, and now we just want the government to get on and sign and seal it and have it in practice because women and children are in the Family Courts every single day right now and it is really important that this is done quickly. Im aware that its really, very critical to make sure the accuracy of the new guidance is looked at in detail. Im aware that there was no deliberate delay, its not about back sliding, its commitment across government to ensure that the legislation, the guidance, all of the structures, support, the victims of Domestic Abuse and most importantly, as katie says, ensures that children are safe. So its important to get it absolutely right. And i know that has been looked at in detail as we speak. Currently, do you think parents right to contact is being put above protecting the child . The law states that there should be continuity of parental involvement, so cafcass always look at the impact for each individual child, and tries to took to the children, and both sides of the family, the people involved. Because many children do benefit from ongoing relationships with both parents. And thats really important to look at from an individual childs perspective. However, where the risks are too high, we should be very clear about that as well, and that is the case. There are obviously situations like zoes, which are very distressing and we need to listen to and learn from and make improvements, the system is not 100 perfect. But certainly in my experience, we have made great strides. Every case that comes to the Family Courts is risk assessed. But we need to make sure that, with the improvement in the new practice direction, that there is greater consistency and every childs circumstances like zoes dont happen again. One of the worries that we have got, and this came out of the research that womens aid has published with cafcass, is that nearly a quarter of the Contact Cases where there were allegations of Domestic Abuse, unsupervised contact with the parent was ordered at the first hearing. That means that the court may not have had the chance to get to grips with the full picture, and i think that is something that has come out very powerfully from zoes story. So that is one of the concerns we have got. And we will be really looking to have a situation where women, and all of us, and survivors, can have the confidence that whatever Family Courts they go to, the cild safety is going to be properly and fully assessed. And that full picture will always be considered. Zoe, you were trying to come in . Yeah, for me, theres no recourse for women going through these procedures. I went through and afterwards tried to get into traditional review, because ijust felt like i wasnt being dealt with fairly. But you cant go anywhere. Where do you go if. Who are you complaining to if things dont go right . Thats the worry. Ultimately, you did get custody of your daughter, didnt you . Yes. Explain how that came about . I truly believe that its because i have the means to do so. I had to spend £14,000. I had a whole legal team. When we initially went to court, we were litigants in person, and so the judge seemed quite annoyed with that. Once we had a legal team in there, then it strengthened my case. But actually, my case was strong anyway. So it shouldnt be down to money or financials. And was it a struggle to get that money . £14,000 is a lot of money . Yeah, it is, i had a good solicitor who took on my case and im pleased to say that he really supported me, because he could see how absolutely ridiculous it was. The government sent us the following from the ministry ofjustice, the welfare of children is the utmost priority of Family Courts. Ministers are working closely with the seniorjudiciary to carefully consider revisions to this important guidance, and we expect to introduce these changes shortly. Still to come thousands of people are spending a second night away from their homes as a result of wildfires in france. Well speak to some brits on holiday in the area whove been affected. And a survey has found that 48 of people dont think Primary School age children should learn about same sex relationships. Well discuss the issue before ten. Heres ben brown in the bbc newsroom with a summary of todays news. The government has taken what is being described as a major step in developing a new immigration policy. Home secretary amber rudd is asking independent Migration Experts to analyse the role of eu nationals living and working in the uk. They will report back next september six months before the uks deadline to leave the european union. However, critics say the study has been commissioned too late. The parents of the terminally ill baby, charlie gard, have until midday to agree with great 0rmond Street Hospital how his life will end. Theyve accepted that charlie will spend his last days in a hospice rather than at home, but chris gard and connie yates are asking to spend more time with their son before life support is taken away. A 16 Year Old Girl found dead on a railway is thought to have been electrocuted. Taiyah pebbles was discovered at Herne Bay Station in kent on wednesday morning. British transport police said the teenager was pronounced dead at the scene after sustaining serious injuries believed to be caused by electrocution. A postmortem will take place on friday. Wild fires are continuing to burn in parts of Southern France. Thousands of people have been forced to leave their homes and campsites around the town of Bormes Les Mimosas. Many are spending a second night on beaches, or in sports halls and other public buildings. At least 6,000 firefighters and troops are now battling the flames. The chief constable of police scotland, phil gormley, has confirmed hes being investigated over allegations of gross professional misconduct. Details of the complaint against phil gormley havent been made public but the bbc understands they relate to his conduct towards a more junior officer. The duke of cambridge will begin his last shift as an Air Ambulance pilot today before taking up his royal duties full time. For the past two years hes been working for the east Anglian Air Ambulance service. Writing in the Eastern Daily press this morning, he says hes been proud to serve. That is a summary of our latest news. More from me at ten oclock. Thank you, lets get a summary of the sport. British swimmer adam peaty has retained his 50 metres breast stroke world title. He couldnt lower his own world record as he had done in the heats and semi finals but he still managed to swim under 26 seconds and won by over half a second, a record margin of victory, he also successfully defended his 100 metre title earlier in the week. The third test between england and south africa starts at the oval last this morning. The four test series is level at 1 1 after englands heavy defeat at trent bridge. Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers says his side will travel to norway for the second leg of their Champions League third qualifying tie confident they can make it through. They drew 0 0 with rosenberg last night. We could have two home nations quarterfinalists in the womens european championships in the netherlands. A win for england will see them top group d. Scotland need to beat spain by at least two goal is to have any chance. I will be back after ten and hopefully we will be live at the oval for that third test. Thank you. France has appealed for help fighting fires that have spread along parts of the countrys south coast, forcing around 10,000 people to leave their homes. One of the worst hit areas is around saint tropez, an area popular with tourists. Thousands of firefighters and troops have been trying to stop the fires spread, but a combination of dry vegetation and strong winds has made the fires particularly challenging to contain. 0ur correspondent Hugh Schofield is in Bormes Les Mimosas. Yes, we are in the brush, as you can see, in the hillside above the town of Bormes Les Mimosas. The situation, we are told, is stabilised. Not under control, they are very keen to say that, but stabilised. The fire passed yesterday. As you walk up the hillside you can see the remains of the stumps and the buck and vegetation and the earth which has turned black. Apparently, that is the effect of the water. When they spray it with water it goes from grade to black. But as we come up the hill, it is very interesting. There are still members burning. All over the place, you see these little chimneys of smoke going up. This is the root of a tree which is still smouldering. And this, we are told, is the real danger spot. This remains hot. As the day progresses and the heat returns to the environment, and if the wind starts fanning it, this is where we could easily see new outbreaks, places like this, fire. That is why fire service, who are standing down now, they have put a small blaze out upon they have put a small blaze out upon the hill, they remain on very high alert throughout the day. They predict there will be new outbreaks this afternoon. Last point on a more positive note, if you look upon the hillside, you will see that it is green. There was a fire here 27 yea rs green. There was a fire here 27 years ago. That was black like this is here now, but it regenerates. The lesson is, fires occur and they are terrible, but the will cope. That is Hugh Schofield giving us a sense of what it is like on the ground. Lets talk to 0llie marriage who is on holiday in gigaro for his fathers 70th birthday. He also works for the bbc. Lisa minot was camping near Bormes Les Mimosas but has been evacuated. And dr beth cole from the University Of Leicester has been researching the areas most at risk from these kinds of fires. Lisa, first of all, you were evacuated from your campsite to the beach. Did you have to sleep on the beach . That is right, we did. We had two nights now. The alert came the night before last. The entire campsite was evacuated, that is over 4000 people. We are back on the campsite now because this morning they left off back for the first time. Inaudible it is still a state of flux. We do not know what will happen. As your correspondent said, we watched yesterday as the fires were put out and then reignited. We spent the night on the beach. We did not sleep on the campsite. We decided to move some tents onto the beach and sleep there. Lisa, you have a slightly scratchy skype line but we will stick with it because im sure people will be wondering how you slept on the beach. Did you have lounges, covers and water . We had food and water. This is a serious environment. There are people helping out. There is water and food you can collect. And then we had tents from our own campsite. We moved them onto the beach, so that they were out of danger, out of the campsite environment, because the beachis campsite environment, because the beach is one of the safest places to beach is one of the safest places to be if there is a fire. I want to bring in 0llie who is near central pat bring in 0llie who is near central pay. Where are you and how have you been affected . Pay. Where are you and how have you been affected . Pay. Where are you and how have you been affected . Saved to pay. Pay. Where are you and how have you been affected . Saved to pay. The fires started 100 metres from here and they swept up the hillside to my right ear. The firefighters did an amazing job putting them out initially but we were evacuated again yesterday because the wind had changed direction and it was blowing the flames back this way. You say they were 100 metres away in a calm manner, presumably you are not calm when you saw it . The first we were aware of it was when the planes were flying over. Initially, the flames we re flying over. Initially, the flames were not too big and they tried to put them out quickly, and then they built very quickly, driven by the really strong winds. They raced up the hillsides and the sheets of flame were enormous. The hillsides and the sheets of flame were enormouslj the hillsides and the sheets of flame were enormous. I want to bring in rob huckle who has also connected with us on skype. He is also on holiday with his family less than a mile away from the fires. Tell us your experiences and what you have seen . I was woken up by my sister at one oclock in the morning, about two hours after the fire started. I looked out of our apartment windows and the hills were lit up with orange flames, resonating off the smoke which was flying up into the sky. We watched it flow across the hills at an alarming speed carried by the wind, and itjust came closer and closer, to where we were. We thought it was dying down in the morning and as someone said, it picked back up during the day. I saw it come within metres of some houses on the hills, but luckily, the fires, firefighters and planes did an excellent job fires, firefighters and planes did an excellentjob to hold back. Fires, firefighters and planes did an excellent job to hold back. Where you evacuated from your apartment or could you stay . We could stay. I am on the port so i am on water. The best place to be yes, i was very lucky. I saw streams of cars overnight. There have been families still sitting out on the corner of the street with whatever they could grab from their homes. We have the sailing club here set up as a Refugee Centre and it is giving out free water and food to those who need it. I wonder if each of you, lisa, have you had much information from the authorities . As theyre been good communication . from the authorities . As theyre been good communication . I would not say that has been good acting in a. It has become a case of looking on facebook and twitter and talking to people. Communication has not been great. In the case of the campsite, deciding on whether we were staying or going was decided by the campsite but also the mayor of the town and the firefighters, and those three people have to have a discussion. Things change, we would told one thing and then another. Yesterday morning, we were told having spent the night on the beach that we could come back to the campsite. We had been on the campsite for barely an hour when the alarm went again and we we re hour when the alarm went again and we were forced to leave. At that point it was, get off the campsite now, immediately, get to the beach. At that point it was chaos. There was no control as such, but look at what they are fighting, look at what they have to do. You can see these fires reigniting and reigniting. It is no surprise that there is no control to it. I was reading there we re control to it. I was reading there were 4500 people on your campsite so moving people around cannot be easy. 0llie, have you found good communication from the authorities . The fires are unpredictable. We know there is. That has not been a great deal of communication, but when you talk to the individual firemen and police, they can tell you roughly what is going on. They do not know what the fire is going to do, so that makes it difficult for them. There is no Secular Centre or information source that you can go to. For holiday makers, at least. Maybe if you are local down here you know which Radio Station to listen to and which websites to check, but for us, not so much. I want to bring in Doctor Beth Cole from the University Of Leicester. I know you we Re University of leicester. I know you were one of the academics who produced a risk map of wildfires in southern europe. Can you explain to people watching what you collated and what you found . Yes, sure. We are doing a project across the whole of europe, mapping the areas which are defined as the Wild Urban Interface which is an area which is known to be at high risk of fire. These are areas where the urban development and Human Buildings interact or boundary up to areas where there is forest fuel, fuel for the fire, woody vegetation. By mapping that across europe, we found we could relate this to Satellite Images of previously burned areas. We related the probability of how likely the fires were closest to these areas. The closer you get to these areas. The closer you get to the Wild Urban Interfaces, the more likely you are to have a fire risk. Applying this across we found regions which were at higher risk to fire. 0ne regions which were at higher risk to fire. One of those was the Provence Cote dazur area of france which came up cote dazur area of france which came up as one cote dazur area of france which came up as one of the highest risk areas of france. If you identified thatis areas of france. If you identified that is a risk, did the authorities ta ke that is a risk, did the authorities take that on board and try and mitigate the circumstances or was that not possible . I am not sure how the information was fed forward, but the information was fed forward, but the idea of identifying the risk areas was so that in the future people could put into place Land Management orfire people could put into place Land Management or fire risk plans, people could put into place Land Management orfire risk plans, that would be preventative. Things like Land Use Management to prevent the Wild Urban Interface is being built up Wild Urban Interface is being built up so much as they have been recently. Thank you all for speaking to us. I hope your holidays into. Improve. Coming up a survey has found 48 of people do not think Primary School children should learn about same sex relationships. We will discuss that later. The Police Watchdog says there are major inconsistencies in the way Drug Driving Laws are enforced by Different Police forces. The Police Watchdog says there are big differences. How have the laws on drug driving changed . Police officers had to prove motorists Driving Ability was impaired. They used to do a test, walk ina impaired. They used to do a test, walk in a straight line, stand on one leg, that kind of thing. Since the change to years ago, it is much more scientific. If you have more than a certain type of 17 different drugs in your system, when you get behind the wheel, you are breaking the law. Eight of those are illegal. 0nes like cocaine, cannabis and ecstasy. Nine of them are Prescription Drugs like codeine, morphine and methadone. What did you find out . We asked all 43 Police Forces a very simple question, how many arrests have you made under the new Drug Driving Laws in the two year since the change. 39 of them came back to us, and essentially some forces had arrested thousands, others had made hundreds of arrests, a handful of forces had made fewer than 100 arrests. To try to get some sense of comparison, we divided the number of arrests by the number of officers each force has, just to get some kind of comparison. Some forces for example like north yorkshire, south yorkshire, cheshire, they made one Drug Driving Arrest for everyone, two or three officers on the force. 0ther arrest for everyone, two or three officers on the force. Other forces like Greater Manchester police, derbyshire, leicestershire, they made one Drug Driving Arrest for every 18, 19, 20, sometimes 28 officers. We have to take these figures with caution because they are notan figures with caution because they are not an accurate, scientific, like for like comparison, but the com plete like for like comparison, but the complete her majesty s to quit her majestys inspectorate of constabulary, they give us a snapshot into the wider issue of policing drug driving. We spoke to a lady called Zoe Bird Peeling from there about the possible consequences these infants zoe billingham. There are clearly forces being extremely proactive in this area, a deliberate decision on their part, and we as an inspectorate would ask other Police Chief Const is to check whether or not they are being as proactive as they should be, but also taking Enforcement Action in the way they ought to be, and educating young people about the harm, the terrible harm caused by these activities. So what are the police saying about this, why is there this huge discrepancy . We got in touch with the National Police chief s counsel, and they say all forces ta ke chief s counsel, and they say all forces take it very seriously, some individual forces forces take it very seriously, some individualforces made forces take it very seriously, some individual forces made local decisions based at a local level based on their priorities, and sometimes crucially different forces share resources to meet the high demands on police. Thank you for talking to us. With us now is kalann, whose Brother Aiden was killed two years ago by a driver who was on drugs. Thank you so much for coming in with us now is callum. Tell us a bit about your brother. Aiden, my brother, it was 20 at the time, he cared about everybody, you would not hurt a fly. He was living at home still, getting by, just doing what he enjoyed doing. And what happened on that day . Aiden was in the three lane traffic, going through traffic on the left hand lane, and the car at the last minute decided to pull out. And did you know at the time that the driver was on drugs . Not instantly, we were told a few days after. Do you know what drugs the woman had in her system . What drugs the woman had in her system . The main one was amphetamine, originally a Prescription Drug but the woman became addicted to it. Clearly you are devastated at the loss of your brother. Was that made harder by the knowledge that this woman had been driving whilst having drugs in her system . Driving whilst having drugs in her system . It made it worse, he did nothing wrong. Something about that always just nothing wrong. Something about that alwaysjust hurt, because he was doing everything in the right, he wasjust going on the road as you would do. It could happen to any of us, couldnt it . What sentence to the driver get . Suspended sentence, so the driver get . Suspended sentence, so she didnt go to a prison at all. Why did she get that . We dont quite understand, to be honest. That is something that got to all of us, i took if you days off work to get our heads around what had happened. We we re heads around what had happened. We were all expecting a lenient sentence, no sentence is enough to punish what it caused us, but you expected at least some time in prison, and it didnt happen. And no one explain to you why that was . dont really feel like i know why. If you kill someone whilst under the influence of drugs behind the wheel, then you should be going to jail, there should be no question about it. You said you expected a lenient sentence, why . You just it. You said you expected a lenient sentence, why . Youjust hear it. You said you expected a lenient sentence, why . You just hear other lot of cases like it. I had never heard of a Drug Driving Case in the news before, so they prepared us for it because of the way sentences go. I know that the woman was given a suspended sentence, and in the intervening period, quite a long period, she had a baby, was that one of the reasons they gave . Yes, they said it would be unfair on the baby to do that. Details like that dont really bother me, if that was the case, i think that is disgusting that it shouldnt be thought of, but for all we know, it could have been that she happened to have a baby at that she happened to have a baby at that time as well. For me, it is not the sentencing i want to get changed, peoples mindset about it changed, peoples mindset about it changed, i want people to think before they get behind the wheel, there are harsher laws with the sentences, and people still go and commit the crime. Putting a harsher sentence on might stop people doing it but for me it is more important to have people think about it, if you see a friend or anyone under the influence, stop them and have the confidence to Say Something because it literally can save lives. You are a young person yourself, clearly, are you aware of friends, people you know, who do take drugs and drive . am not aware of anyone i know who does do it, if i did, i would Say Something. I guess it is that hard moment, when i was growing up many moons ago, there were people i knew that were taking drugs and would drive, and that were taking drugs and would drive, and i never got in a car. But thenit drive, and i never got in a car. But then it never even occurred to me to pick up the phone to call the police to alert in case something might happen. I guess it is about getting that message across to people that we have a responsibility. If you know someone does, then if it had been done on that day to the woman who killed my brother, then he still might be here. Do you think enough is being done to create that stigma around drug driving . To me, because it is not as widely done, drink driving, a lot of people when you get to that age, but not as many people take drugs, so it is hidden behind it, not as common. Needs to behind it, not as common. Needs to be just as common, the awareness of it needs to be put out there. Some people watching this might be surprised, when we were talking to dan before, he said you would expect the Illegal Drugs to be there, but there were nine Prescription Drugs as well, things like codeine. Some people may be unaware that can affect them driving. Yes, any drugs you can pick up, it should be made clear when you pick up a prescription or you are given drugs, the effects of what you can and cant do. When i have been on different medication, you end up asking if you can or not, everything should be given out, either a yes or no. The doctor should always say yes, you can still drive on it, just to clear up yes, you can still drive on it, just to clearup and yes, you can still drive on it, just to clear up and reduce the risk. Tell us about how aidans loss has affected you as a brother but also yourfamily. Affected you as a brother but also your family. It was just devastating. You could see it in everyone. I wasjust going into my second year of a levels at the time. Ended up not doing as i wanted to do. Ijust ended up not doing as i wanted to do. I just couldnt ended up not doing as i wanted to do. Ijust couldnt concentrate on the college. I would go in but i just could not keep focused on what i wanted to do. For the family, you can see it even now, my mum, the most amazing woman is, every day i will speak to her and you can see it still hurts her she still struggles with the fact he is not there, not up with the fact he is not there, not up in his room on his computer, which is what he normally did. I rememberfor which is what he normally did. I remember for months and months, i would shout up to him that dinner was ready, because he would never hear, you would have to yell at the top of your voice. Every time when it comes to that time, i think i need to, and it is that moment, you just relive the moment over and over again. Thank you for talking us, i can imagine it has been ready difficult, and lovely to hear about your brother anyway. I appreciated. Thank you. The National Police Chiefs Council has responded to the story. They say drug driving is no one size fits all approach. Individual forces make decisions about local priorities and how best to balance their demand and resource in order to keep the public safe as that may bring you this, reaching us from danny shaw, our Home Affairs Correspondent. The number of assaults in prisons in england and wales has risen to a record high. There were 26,643 assaults in the 12 months to march 2017. There were also a Record Number of self harm incidents, 40,000 414. There were 97 self inflicted deaths in the year to june, down by ten on the before. Also, some of your comments have been coming in, we are going to be talking a little while about whether Primary School children should be taught about same sex relationships. Tim on twitter says Primary School kids should be educated about same sex religion ships and the dangers of inequality start early. They should let kids be kids, says this one, why do they have to be taught about everything from such an early age . Get in touch. Now the latest weather with carol. A real mixture of weather over the next few days, bright spells, sunshine and showers and has a mother s reign, but in the sunshine it will feel pleasant. If you are in the rain it will feel cool. Weather watchers pictures are rather nice, you can see some rain. Some showers around as well in the west. We did have some blue skies. A fair bit cloud around. Coming from the west, it will be travelling steadily eastwards. Some have been heavy and thundery. And there are more to come. Low pressure driving our weather currently. It is going to be a windy day, especially later across north west scotland, but breezy across the west of the week uk, especially in the showers, and when you have that, nation you will find the temperature will come down. After a fairly cloudy start the cloud breaks, and then a plethora of showers coming in from the west, drifting east, some of them heavy, if you of them will be thundery as well. Even into the afternoon, we are looking at that, nation of bright spells, sunshine and showers. We werent all catch one, it is not like a band of rain coming your way, however there will be sunny spells between and the showers will be knocking around. In wales, as well. Temperatures in aberystwyth getting up temperatures in aberystwyth getting up to 16 or17 temperatures in aberystwyth getting up to 16 or 17 celsius. For northern ireland, sunshine and showers, breeze picking up late in the day across the north west, and for scotland, that combination of bright spells, sunshine and showers. Temperatures in inverness getting up to the mid to high teens. The northern england, again, we have got that same, nation of bright spells, at times there will be a bit more cloud around, sunny skies but also those showers and breezy. Through the evening, the rain picks up, some of the showers will merge and give along the spells of rain anyway and then we could have some gales off then we could have some gales off the west of scotland. The band of rain starts to move eastwards and through the rest of the night and into tomorrow it will start to ferment. There will stop with some showers in the west but the many parts of england and wales, it will remain dry with overnight lows between 12 and about 15. We start on that note tomorrow. Meanwhile, another band of rain swings in from the south west, also pushing north eastwards. Some of that will be heavy, particularly so on the hills in wales. In the central slot, youre likely to have a drier day with some sunshine. Still an element of as to how far north rain will travel but we think by evening it could be in a line roughly pressed in to hull. You might want to get your tent set up quite early in the day. On saturday, cloudy and damp in the south east, then another band of rain swings up across the channel islands, southern counties, in the central and southern england. We will still have those showers across scotland and northern ireland, at times some of them urging to give some longer spells of rain. Still a breezy day but not as breezy as it will be tomorrow, and again in between there will be some sunshine and just a few showers. Either time we get to sunday, low pressure still driving our weather, there is the centre of it, still a lot showers close to it in scotland and northern ireland, but for england and wales it will be more showers than on saturday, some will be heavy and thundery, in between bright sunny skies, with highs up to 22 celsius. Hello, its ten oclock. Im chloe tilley, welcome to the programme. The government is commissioning a detailed assessment of the costs and benefits of eu migrants, as it decides how to manage immigration after brexit. The immigration minister, Brandon Lewis, said the report would help the government protect the economy. The commissions work will help inform what industry and sectors need within the new structure of immigration as we go forward. 50 years ago today, homosexuality was partially decriminalised in england and wales. A recent survey shows 48 of us believe same sex relationships should not be taught in Primary Schools. We will discuss the issue. And veganism is one of the Fastest Growing Food Movements in the country. One in five of us would consider it. Well be hearing from a professionalfree runner. Heres ben brown in the bbc newsroom with a summary of todays news. The government has taken what is being described as a major step in developing a new immigration policy. Home secretary amber rudd is asking independent Migration Experts to analyse the role of eu nationals living and working in the uk. They will report back next september, six months before the uks deadline to leave the european union. However, critics say the study has been commissioned too late. The parents of the terminally ill baby charlie gard have until midday to agree with great 0rmond Street Hospital how his life will end. Theyve accepted that charlie will spend his last days in a hospice rather than at home, but chris gard and connie yates are asking to spend more time with their son before life support is taken away. The number of assaults in prisons in england and wales has risen to a record high. There were 26,643 assaults in the 12 months to march 2017. There were also a Record Number of self harm incidents more than 40,000. There were 97 self inflicted deaths in the year tojune down ten on the year before. A 16 Year Old Girl found dead on a railway is thought to have been electrocuted. Taiyah pebbles was discovered at Herne Bay Station in kent on wednesday morning. British transport police said the teenager was pronounced dead at the scene after sustaining serious injuries believed to be caused by electrocution. Wild fires are continuing to burn in parts of Southern France. Thousands of people have been forced to leave their homes and campsites around the town of Bormes Les Mimosas. Many are spending a second night on beaches, or in sports halls and other public buildings. At least 6,000 firefighters and troops are now battling the flames. Harvey biggs reports. For a third night, the skies glowed red in Southern France as fierce wildfires continued to burn out of control. Hillsides engulfed by flames in Bormes Les Mimosas, west of st tropez. Local residents joining firefighters to battle the blaze that has forced the evacuation of over 10,000 people. Having watched the flames inch closer and closer on wednesday, thousands of tourists took the chance to flee. Many had spent the last two nights in the public shelters or camping out on the beach. Translation we evacuate because of the fire is coming close to the place. So we pay attention. We left with our clothes and a little food. Residents who fled the flames have now begun to return to assess the damage to their homes and properties. Many with stories of narrow escapes. Translation All Of A Sudden we were in front of a wall of flame, near the cypress trees. We did not hesitate. We took some belongings, we took the two dogs and we left. Translation i climbed high on the crest and i saw a picture of desolation, because all the camping was surrounded with flames and we couldnt do anything. Meeting some of the crews and volunteers on the frontline, the french Prime Minister, edouard philippe, said there would be an enquiry into the fires cause, which some have blamed on an arsonists. The powerful and destructive combination of heat and wind set to fuel these fires and test these firefighters once again. Harvey biggs, bbc news. The chief constable of police scotland, phil gormley, has confirmed hes being investigated over allegations of gross professional misconduct. Details of the complaint against phil gormley havent been made public but the bbc understands they relate to his conduct towards a more junior officer. The notion that you should always finish a course of antibiotics, even if you feel better, is being challenged by a group of leading medical experts. Writing in the British Medical Journal, its argued that taking antibiotics for longer than necessary, can raise the risk of developing a resistance to the drugs. However, englands Chief Medical Officer says people shouldnt change their behaviour because of one study. The Prime Minister has said the conservatives have Come A Long Way on the issue of gay rights, but that theres still more to do to achieve equality. Theresa may was marking the 50th anniversary today of the partial decriminalisation of homosexuality in england and wales. It decriminalised homosexual acts in private between men aged 21 and over. The duke of cambridge will begin his last shift as an Air Ambulance pilot today before taking up his royal duties full time. For the past two years hes been working for the east Anglian Air Ambulance service. Writing in the Eastern Daily press this morning he says hes been proud to serve. That is the summary of our latest news. More from me later. Thank you, lets catch up on the sports news. Yes, adam peaty has retained his titles. He has added the 50 metre breaststroke title to the 100 metres. He could not lower his own record again. He did that in the heats and semifinals. But his margin of victory is a record winning margin in the 50 metres breaststroke. He says he has a lot more to give to the sport as well. Englands cricketers are the oval. The captain joe englands cricketers are the oval. The Captainjoe Root has come under some criticism. Joe root said the criticism has felt personal at times. Michael vaughan said he is standing by his criticism. That is ben stokes bowling yesterday. Toby Rowland Jones will make his debut as well. The series is 1 1. Rowland jones will make his debut as well. The series is 11. It is important that as as a side remain true to each other. We are very honest in the dressing room. We know we did not do well enough last leg. Effort has never been an issue. We have a massive desire to go out and put a really Strong Performance in and bounce back strong. And some breaking news. The head of Spanish Football has resigned as Vice President of both uefa and fifa. The spaniard was detained earlier this month after allegations of corruption, embezzlement and falsifying documents. He has denied the allegations. He will no longer have an official role at the football organisations. Two home nations could reach the Knockout Stages of the euro championships. Mark sampsons side england need just a point to qualify top of group d. They will become the first england side to progress with a 100 record without conceding a goal. We want to improve, we want to do better. So far, we have had a good performance against scotland. In other areas better performance against spain. We need to keep the snowball rolling because we want to go in the Knockout Stages and in didntand go in the Knockout Stages and in didnt and that we are the team to make it. And in the last couple of minutes, chris froome has confirmed he will ride this year in the velta spaniard. No rider has won the Tour De France and the velta in the same year will stop it has not been done since 1995. He has been a runner up a few times in the velta espana. He says it is brutal but he has done the Tour De France. I will be back with the headlines at half past. Thank you. Just before the news we were talking about the number of assaults in prisons in england and wales. Danny shaw is here now. Take us through these. These are the latest figures from the Prison Service covering jails in england and wales. They cover Assault Figures until the end of march. There is a Record Number of march. There is a Record Number of assaults in prisons in england and wales, 26,000 600. 3600 of which we re and wales, 26,000 600. 3600 of which were serious assaults and 7000 were assaults on staff. That number has gone up by a third in the last year. Really concerning figures about violence in prisons. Some of it is fuelled by former legal highs, psychoactive substances, but these will strengthen demands on the government to take action to try and make prisons face. We were hearing last week from the chief inspector peter clark, about prisons. Record numbers of self harm incidents. The numbers of self harm incidents. The number of self inflicted deaths is still very high at 97, but down slightly, down ten on the previous year. Still approaching record levels. We have some other figures. A Raft Of Statistics released today by the ministry ofjustice, and this shows that conditions in prisons are in decline. These are a series of rankings given by the Ministry Of Justice every year to every single person, and what it shows is that ten are their performance is giving serious concern. That is up from six last year. Those prisons include bedford and birmingham, where there were some serious disturbances over the past 12 months. Bristol, brixton, hindley, liverpool prison, pentonville, there we re liverpool prison, pentonville, there were two escapes and an alleged murder at pentonville, wandsworth and Wormwood Scrubs in london as well. And finally, this will concern is of the public, this is about the state and people who are released in errorfrom prisons. There were 15 states in the last 12 months. That is up two on the year before. The number of prisoners who are released in error, this is where they are meant to be in custody, but there is some administrative mistake, and they are actually let out. There we re they are actually let out. There were 71, and that is the highest numberfor at were 71, and that is the highest number for at least a decade. Thank you for coming down and updating us. That is our Home Affairs Correspondent danny shaw. Its 50 years today since homosexuality was partially decriminalised in england and wales. But how much have attitudes to homosexuality changed . To find out, Gay Online News Site pink news commissioned a yougov poll. It suggests four in ten people think gay sex is not natural, and half believe Primary School children should not be taught about gay relationships in school. Now we can speak to benjamin cohen, ceo of pink news, tony fenwick from schools 0ut, which provides resources to Primary Schools to teach about same sex relationships, and katie ivens from the campaign for real education. Thank you all for coming to speak to us today. Benjamin, why did you commission this survey and were you surprised by what you found out . We wa nted surprised by what you found out . We wanted to find that how people really feel about attitudes to homosexuality. It is the anniversary of the decriminalisation. We wanted to know if People Felt Gay Sex was natural or unnatural and i was surprised that so many people felt it was unnatural. What is good is that the younger people are the more positive in the way they feel about 93v positive in the way they feel about gay relationships. But more than 50 , actually 70 of people who were alive when homosexuality was a crime, still think it is an unnatural act. About the education in schools, katie, can you understand why people think it is important to think young children, and at Primary School we are talking about age four to nearly 11, about same sex relationships. about age four to nearly 11, about samesex relationships. I think Primary Education should be teaching the basics, literacy, numeracy, learning about facts through subject education and becoming readers and independent thinkers for themselves. I think the whole area of sexuality should not be the main focus of Primary Education. Every child should be treated and respected as an individual, but let the children develop as they develop. an individual, but let the children develop as they develop. I do think anyone thinks it should be the primary focus. My niece isabel is starting Primary School. 0ne my niece isabel is starting Primary School. One of her favourite books is called king and king, it tells the story about two princes who fall in love and become things together. There is no reason if you want to promote literacy that you couldnt have books that are gay inclusive, and all we were asking about was about Relationship Education. Lots of children like my niece had gay members in theirfamily of children like my niece had gay members in their family and this is important that all young people understand families come in all different shapes and sizes, and all schools teach about mum and dad, why not teach about mummy and mummy and daddy and daddy . Education should be liberal, but i am talking about the focus, which i should jest should not be on the issue of Sexual Identity at primaries call age. dont think they would be doing that at four orfive. Dont think they would be doing that at four or five. I dont know quite honestly what will be introduced to children. My daughter has finished reception, she told me one day she would marry one boy and one girl in her class, so i think it is quite a simplistic approach. Sometimes the children almost dont think about it, do they . Do they think about a mummy and daddy always has to be together . Not many years ago children at Primary School age would have no access to same sex relationships and that kind of thing but it is a very different world we live in now. Many children have same sex parents, they will have a 95v same sex parents, they will have a gay auntie or uncle or a lesbian memberof the gay auntie or uncle or a lesbian member of the family. So it is much closer to home. Also in soap operas as if they watch television, they will see same sex couples, it is pa rt of will see same sex couples, it is part of the everyday tapestry. We are no longer invisible. That has to be reflected in Primary School education. How do you teach it, there are concerns from katie, and i am sure many parents will say i tell my chart going to school and it being advocated, what is the sensitive line you tread . being advocated, what is the sensitive line you tread . I dont think in primary anyone would be promoting the idea that we should beat teaching young people how to have sex, gay or straight. It is about relationships and families. Families come in different shapes and sizes. Exactly, we start by challenging the stereotypes, blue for boys, think the girls, that kind of thing, and then talk about how different relationships form different relationships form different families and how that is a cce pta ble different families and how that is acceptable and part of our rich diversity in our society, and also our british values, which we talk about a lot now. It is one of our british values. Katie, you said you did not want it to be a primary focus, so how much of a young child was night time, education, is spent having this discussion, are we talking an hour a week, a term . think it is about relevance. Parents watching this will say i want my child to do this much maths and english, are we talking about this every day, every of week, every month . The government is going to expand its birth in the secondary and the primary, because it has not been taught very well in the past and it will now be a Curriculum Subject that will be assessed. Sex and Relationship Education will come into that as part of a holistic curriculum area. Why not with the choice of books have gay characters in them . You can still teach literacy. My little niece is learning to read, and one of the books she uses doesntjust have a prince that marries a princess. Which many parents hate anyway phs e has never been good and i dont see why it should become any better now just by talking see why it should become any better nowjust by talking about it more. I dont think it is going to happen. I think it should be done factually, and it should focus on reproduction, frankly, because we are the human species. We are mammals. Do you want to teach five year olds about that . I have taught my own four or five year old because they asked the questions and i gave the answers. My nine year old did not want to know when his class was taught. His friends are sorted a girl behind the bike sheds. I suggest we remain very careful about it and focus on teaching fundamentals, to read and to think themselves. If they are taught that as welcome is there a place in school to teach just about relationships . Not even about same sex relationships, about friendships, sorting out problems, and yes it is about mum and dad or mum and mum and dad and dad. Orjust mum and mum and dad and dad. Orjust mum and mum and dad and dad. Orjust mum and just dad. Indeed. The way you address relationships in Primary School, you dont address those as a subject. Relationships are not a subject, teach the subjects, get them thinking for themselves, get them thinking for themselves, get them to be critical and develop as individuals, developing their intelligence, that is what schools should be about. I think that is what everyone is proposing, arent they . A lot of people at promis call age know a lot about sexuality and homosexuality and a lot of things that arent true, probably a lot of bad things, from their peers, a lot of people outside. It is up to us as educators to talk to them properly and clear up the mess and tell them the truth. It is notjust about sex, but also about safeguarding and protecting these children so they know when they are ina children so they know when they are in a vulnerable position and they know what to do about it. We are wrapped out of time, thank you for coming in and talking about this. Still to come, the parents of the terminally ill baby charlie gard, have until midday to agree how his life will end. Well bring you the latest on the case. The last 12 years, womens and childrens lives are being put at risk. They have new research to lives are being put at risk. They have ne quarterch to lives are being put at risk. They have ne quarterch cases 7 is; 7 is7 m j and survivor of Domestic Violence and had her daughter taken away from her by the Family Courts. She told me the whole experience was hideous. So we came face to face in the waiting room. And he was saying all sorts of things, so that was of course traumatic. And the fact that id just left hospital was getting over a serious a sort, so i was having to deal with that side of things. Then the court itself was really clinical, there was zero emotion, no understanding of the traumatic experience that youre going through really. Because its life changing, decisions are going to be made in that courtroom that are going to affect the rest of your life and the rest of your childrens lives. And we hear zoes story and we can telljust by hearing that story how traumatic it is even now, zoe, for you to talk about that. We can see that from the way that you are sitting, and talking about it. Are these similar experiences that you were hearing . Sadly, we have heard from women in situations such as the one zoe has described, and others as well, where they have suffered Domestic Abuse and violence, and then have to relive that trauma going through the courts. And sadly we also know that some perpetrators of violence will actively use the Family Courts to continue a campaign of coercive control of their victims. There are lots of issues here and we just need to be mindful and listen and learn from the experiences of zoe and others. We are very pleased that there is refreshed guidance forjudges, that we hope will be out very soon. We want the government to get on and act on that and sign it off. And thats going to make some improvements to the Family Courts, so that they can really make sure that women and their experiences are being listened to. And important changes. Sarah, go through what those changes will be once they are brought in . The new guidance will make sure, for instance, that women who have suffered Domestic Abuse are not cross examined by their perpetrator. People will find that amazing watching this, that this still happens. It doesnt happen in the criminal cases, does it . It doesnt. Its a change that is needed. And the organisation that i am from, cafcass, who look after the best interests of children in these proceedings, have been contributing to the updated guidance and are in favour of those changes. Zoe, do you feel, as we heard there from katie, that there are times when your partner was able to manipulate the system to his benefit . Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it was manipulation right from the very beginning. He used the assault as an opportunity to then ask for an emergency hearing. He then submitted all sorts of lies into the court. I was also cross examined by him. And itjust seemed so surreal. Honestly, its like going into another dimension, thats the only way i can describe it. Its just not real. Why has there been a delay, katie, in these suggestions being implemented, these recommendations by lord justice cobb . I dont know why the delay has been, but were really pleased the guidance been updated. Not least because it makes it Crystal Clear to judges and everyone in the courts, that it is the childs safety and interests that are paramount. And actually, its that which trumps the interests or the wishes of either parents to have contact. 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