Transcripts for BBCNEWS Unspun World with John Simpson 20240

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Unspun World with John Simpson 20240604 13:43:00

neutralised a bit there. but if the republicans come up with a much younger candidate, if they look to ron desantis, the governor of florida, who is enjoying a great political rising at the moment, he's 44, that really would make an enormous difference. can i turn to something completely different now? the ukrainian government, or people that i've spoken to working for the ukrainian government, are very nervous that at some stage president biden is going to force them or try to force them at any rate, to start talking to the russians. is that true, do you think? is that what he really wants? there is, ithink, an acceptance of the inevitability that at some point there will be talks and there will be tensions then between the us and europe, and certainly between the us, nato, europe and ukraine about how to get out of this situation in a way that is acceptable

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