Transcripts For BBCNEWS Turkey 20240705

Card image cap



the presentations by the african delegation very briefly to defend his position, essentially saying that the reason for the instability was the coup d'etat from 2014 — it was his own version of history — and he also said that he was open to the children being returned to their parents, and they had been evacuated for their safety. so clearly a very defensive position from vladimir putin, but that meeting is still ongoing. as you say, president putin giving his own version of events, but he did warmly welcome the african leaders, didn't he, and say that "we are open to dialogue". do they think that this will lead to any hopeful talks between ukraine and russia? i don't think that there really was an expectation that anything would emerge from this particular meeting, even though president putin has welcomed the dialogue, he said that they were not averse to having dialogue with ukraine and that there previous proposals that they had seceded to, it's not clear the extent to which he respects this particular mission — as we saw yesterday, when they arrived in ukraine, there were explosions heard outside of kyiv, so to many people that really was an indication of how russia is reacting to this particular mission. on the face of it, he welcomes it — whether there will be any change as a result of this meeting, i don't really think anybody is in expectation that he'll change his mind about the war in ukraine. sudan's warring factions have agreed to a new 72—hour ceasefire starting tomorrow morning. more than 3,000 people have been killed and 6,000 people have been injured in sudan since the war broke out in april, the sudanese health minister has confirmed tonight. haitham ibrahim said only half of the capital khartoum's 130 hospitals were still operating and all hospitals in west darfur state are out of service. at least 17 people, including five children, were killed this saturday after an air strike in the south of khartoum. the metropolitan police have named the four people found dead at a house in hounslow, west london on friday. they are 39—year—old michal wlodarczyk, 35—year—old monika wlodarczyk, and 11—year—old maja and three—year—old dawid wlodarczyk. police officers forced entry into the property in hounslow before discovering the bodies. they said no other person is being sought in connection with the deaths. a man charged with the murder of three people in nottingham on tuesday has appeared in court. valdo calocane is accused of stabbing university students barnaby webber and grace 0'malley—kumar, and school caretaker ian coates. the 31—year—old is also charged with attempted murder after three people were hit by a van. dressed in a gray t—shirt and jogging dressed in a gray t—shirt and jogging bottoms here, he spoke only to confirm his name, which he gave as an alias of adam mendez, his age, and his address, which he gave us no fixed abode. he's been charged with the murders of 19—year—old students... and 65—year—old primary school caretaker ian coates. they were fatally stabbed in the early hours of tuesday morning on the streets of nottingham. the 31—year—old also faces three counts of attempted murder related to three members of the public who were hit by a van in the city centre shortly afterwards. these attacks have caused a huge outpouring of grief, thousands of people attended two very emotional visuals here in the city where we also heard from the victims families. there was also a moment's silence yesterday at the start of the ashes cricket test series between england and australia in birmingham. valdo calocane, the portuguese national who has settled status here in uk was remanded into custody and will next appear at nottingham crown court on tuesday. video footage has emerged showing people dancing at conservative party headquarters in the uk, despite covid lockdown restrictions in 2020. the footage has been obtained by the mirror newspaper. at the time, there were tier 2 restrictions in london, which meant people should not socialise indoors unless they were in the same household. police did investigate this event, but did not issue any fines. 0ur political correspondent iain watson joins us now. iain, how embarrasing is this for the convservatives? it's embarrassing for a number of reasons. first of all, it's not the first time this event was reported, there were lots of reports about partygate there were lots of reports about pa rtygate events, there were lots of reports about partygate events, whether at downing street or other government buildings. this one will had been reported and initially investigated by the police, who decided to take no further action. it's embarrassing now because it is the first time we've seen video footage of the event, and this is what was happening in the basement of the conservative party, the ruling party's headquarters when they had themselves impose restrictions on themselves impose restrictions on the rest of the country on socialising, and the restrictions in london that time that prevented people socialising unless they were part of the same family or household, or a support bubble. so very restricted mixing was allowed at that time. but what gives some contemporary residences this — at least some of the people that you see in this video are from shaun bailey's campaign team. who's he? at the time he was running to be london mayor unsuccessfully, but the people around him were obviously helping her with that campaign, and he's now about to become a member of the house of lords in the upper chamber because the former prime minister, borisjohnson, has nominated him for a peerage. that means he's about to be elevated into effectivelyjoining the legislature himself, and that's obviously raised some questions. i should say that shaun bailey himself isn't seen in this video — however, someone else is getting an 0be and seemed to be socialising at that particular gathering, meaning the opposition labour party is saying for goodness�* sake, rishi sunak, the current prime minister, should be stepping in and vetoing the owners list entirely. the conservative party say that for members of their staff were disciplined for attending what was an unauthorised gathering, and the lib dems obviously also in opposition are saying that the covid inquiry is getting under way to find out what was happening during that time, that period of restrictions, the response of the pandemic, and thousands of grieving victims watching that video will need an apology from the current government. it's apology from the current government. it�*s not yet clear whether the police will reopen any of their inquiries in light of this new footage, they haven�*t responded to that tonight, and mr bailey hasn�*t responded to any of our calls either. , _, , ., responded to any of our calls either. , , ., ., ., , either. this comes at a really torrid week _ either. this comes at a really torrid week for _ either. this comes at a really torrid week for the _ either. this comes at a really i torrid week for the government, having to deal with borisjohnson�*s resignation as part mp, in the report showing he lied to parliament. is this adding to the problems for the government, or could this now rumble on and snowball into something victor? —— into something bigger? rishi snowball into something victor? -- into something bigger?— into something bigger? rishi sunak himself not into something bigger? rishi sunak himself got was _ into something bigger? rishi sunak himself got was called _ into something bigger? rishi sunak himself got was called a _ into something bigger? rishi sunak himself got was called a fixed - himself got was called a fixed penalty notice, a fine for attending a gathering in downing street, saying he turned up early for a meeting but nonetheless he was fined for what was carrying on boris johnson�*s party at the time, and he wants to draw a line under this and leave all this behind, but itjust keeps popping up time and time again. of course there�*ll be lots of attention on the issue on monday because that�*s when mps will debating reports from —— airport from party committee from members of parliament which said borisjohnson has effectively lied to parliament on numerous occasions. so that will be an uncomfortable debate for the conservative party conduct, showing differences and potential splits. but also the wider covid inquiry we should expect to last for years is also getting under way, and certainly i don�*t think rishi sunak will welcome perhaps some of the comments which will inevitably flow once this video it has been seen from some of the families for whom this will be very, very raw. so he�*s trying to move on and deal with some of the economic challenges at the moment, not least rising interest rates and mortgage rates — once again, he can�*t quite escape the shadow of its predecessor. again, he can't quite escape the shadow of its predecessor. thank you ve much shadow of its predecessor. thank you very much for— shadow of its predecessor. thank you very much for your — shadow of its predecessor. thank you very much for your analysis. - meanwhile another conservative mp, david warburton, has announced he is resigning from parliament forcing another by—election for rishi sunak�*s governing party. speaking to the mail on sunday newspaper, the mp who represents sommerton and froom in southwest england, said he was resigning because he did not believe he would receive a fair hearing over allegations of sexual harrasment. he was suspended from the party in april last year after being accused of sexually harassing three women and attempting to buy cocaine. a warning that homeowners who remortgage may have to pay £3000 more next year. a think tank is predicting a mortgage crunch over the coming years as cheap deals run out and interest rates rise. like eleanor, in county down. i'm -a in: like eleanor, in county down. my paying almost triple the amount which i was a few years ago. and that�*s along with all the other price increases, like the energy increases, food increases. the entire mortgage _ increases, food increases. the entire mortgage market is in a state of flux with lenders offering and withdrawing new rates on a daily basis, which is a headache for mortgage brokers trying to find the best deals. we've seen a lot of fear, anic deals. we've seen a lot of fear, panic amongst _ deals. we've seen a lot of fear, panic amongst our _ deals. we've seen a lot of fear, panic amongst our customers, l panic amongst our customers, particularly those who have mortgages coming up and are facing a significant _ mortgages coming up and are facing a significant increase in the monthly payments— significant increase in the monthly payments they've become accustomed to over _ payments they've become accustomed to over the _ payments they've become accustomed to over the last 2—5 years. payments they've become accustomed to over the last 2-5 years.— to over the last 2-5 years. those deals would _ to over the last 2-5 years. those deals would have _ to over the last 2-5 years. those deals would have been _ to over the last 2-5 years. those deals would have been agreed i to over the last 2-5 years. those j deals would have been agreed at around 2.5%, the average two—year fixed now is around 6%. the resolution foundation estimates 7.5 million mortgage holders will see their costs rise over the next few years. by 2026, the average customer will be paying an extra £2900 a year — that adds up to an extra £15.8 billion on the uk pulse like mortgage bill. the think tank�*s director said things can get even worse if interest rates keep rising. if we see the scale of mortgage rises that currents... 0n the back of disappointing pay and inflation data, then we are in for a really difficult situation, what we are saying is that the bank of angle has to squash the economy even more than thought a month ago. the to squash the economy even more than thought a month ago.— thought a month ago. the cost of borrowin: thought a month ago. the cost of borrowing has — thought a month ago. the cost of borrowing has gone _ thought a month ago. the cost of borrowing has gone up _ thought a month ago. the cost of borrowing has gone up by - thought a month ago. the cost of borrowing has gone up by 196. - thought a month ago. the cost of| borrowing has gone up by 196. the thought a month ago. the cost of- borrowing has gone up by 196. the big borrowing has gone up by 1%. the big banks— borrowing has gone up by 1%. the big banks push— borrowing has gone up by 1%. the big banks push interest rates up to 15%~~ — banks push interest rates up to 1596... , ., ., ., ,,, banks push interest rates up to 1596... , ., ., ., . , 1596. .. some democrat analysts say there's echoes _ 1596. .. some democrat analysts say there's echoes of _ 1596. .. some democrat analysts say there's echoes of 1989 _ 1596. .. some democrat analysts say there's echoes of 1989 where - there�*s echoes of 1989 where mortgage rates hit 15%. it is expected to peak next year at 6%, seeing mortgage rates cost even higher. the buy to let market is also likely to be affected if landlords see costs rise and push rents up. mortgage customers are being asked to seek advice and explore all their options as this era of ultracheap mortgage lending comes to an end. marc ashdown, bbc news. king charles has become the first monarch in more than 30 years to take part in trooping the colour on horseback. thousands of people turned out to watch his birthday parade — among them, our royal correspondent nicholas witchell. finally, it was a birthday parade for him. guards! royal salute! present arms! god save the king plays king charles took the salute in his own right as monarch. the king was on horseback — a ratherfriskier mount than he might have wished. princes george and louis, and princess charlotte were taken to watch from a window overlooking horse guards as the parade got under way. 0n the dias, queen camilla in an outfit modelled on the uniform of the grenadier guards, of which she is now honorary colonel. and the princess of wales in emerald green — she�*s colonel of the irish guards. for the first time in more than 30 years, all five of the foot guard regiments were on parade. the colour being trooped was that of the welsh guards. and then back up the mall to buckingham palace. a carriage ride for the children, with george leading the waving. the king led the principal members of the family onto the palace balcony for the fly—past, which couldn�*t take place on coronation day because of the weather. but in the clear skies of summer appeared the battle of britain memorial flight and some of the raf�*s latest and loudest jets, including 18 typhoon fighters spelling out the letters cr, charles rex, in tribute to britain�*s new king. nicholas witchell, bbc news. before we go, let�*s leave you with this. this is andriy levishchenko, a ukrainian volunteer who helped shuttle people by boat to safety in the flooded kherson area, and then clambered onto the roof of a flooded house to play his saxophone. surrounded by high water, he played the ukrainian national anthem as russian shells fell nearby. that�*s it for me, thanks for watching. was saw a lot more clout around on saturday, signalling a change in the type of weather. we did manage some sunshine, temperature is 27 celsius in the southeast of england, where was much better weather for a fly past this time. but things will really kick off on sunday especially later on through the evening. a lot of rain developing, could be some large damaging hail, torrential rain, likely to bring some flooding, a lot of thunder and lightning as well. starting the day with sunshine but may well be some sharp showers overnight and as temperatures rise, so will the cloud, downpours across england and wales and into northern ireland. not so many showers in scotland, more in the way of sunshine here and temperatures around 22—24 c. again, it will be quite muggy. may well have thunderstorms across northern ireland, but the worst of those will be developing across parts of england and wales. and through the latter part of the afternoon and into the evening, really wet weather will push its way northwards up in a northern england, away from southern england and the midlands and wales, and eventually that better weather arrives in scotland. torrential rain, a lot of thunder and lightning, that wet weather across northern scotland on monday. it eases off, following up from that there will be sunny swells, a scattering of showers, 1—2 on the heavy side, many places may well be dry. still quite warm, temperatures around about the mid—20s more likely across the midlands and eastern parts of england. instead of high pressure that�*s brought dry weather for some areas of the country for so long, it will be low—pressure sitting close by over the week ahead which will bring the threat of some more heavy and sundry downpours. there�*ll sunshine around as well on tuesday and it should be quite warm, and eastern areas likely to be dry, it�*s out towards the west we got most of those thunderstorms developing, and again there could be some localised flooding. so temperatures around about 23 celsius on tuesday. temperatures around the mid—20s or so, there will be further heavy, thundershowers over the week ahead, turning less humid, a little fresher, and perhaps some southeastern parts of the uk later in the week will be a bit drier. this is bbc news. the headlines. 41 people are killed — most of them students — and several abducted as militants attack a school in uganda vladimir putin rejects calls by a group of african leaders to agree a ceasefire with ukraine at a diplomatic meeting in russia. a new ceasefire in sudan — the warring generals agree to stop fighting for 72 hours from sunday morning. teachers in england announce two more days of strike action as part of a long—running pay dispute. this is the second time we have put custard today, because when the report was published this morning, we assembled and it a bit of an extra newscast, which we have published on bbc sounds. so that was the rehearsal, and now we can try and get it right. yeah. so you can probably tell me very quickly and very easily what�*s in it now. yeah, its extraordinary, really. the thing is about today, the reason this kind of postcode and more widely the electorate... and we�*ve got some people from this postcode with us here as well. well indeed. i�*ll introduce them now, shall i? salma shah, former adviser to sajid javid. hello. and pippa crerar, basically the inventor of partygate as a news story. you didn�*t do it, you didn�*t instigate it. i wasn't at any of those parties. just to be clear. but you sort of uncovered it and then ran with it in a big way and that leads us to this green document. the extraordinary thing about this today, adam, is that the reason we�*ve been counting down to the day whenever this would see the light of day was the expectation that with it would be the jeopardy about what would happen to borisjohnson. and of course, he pre—empted that. there was always a likelihood he might do that, but he pre—empted that with what he said last friday. so we were waiting for this to appear knowing that it was going to be pretty devastating because it was sufficiently devastating that he had resigned in advance. and that the various, most severe sanctions that it could suggest, he had basically walked down the plank himself already. and yet when it plonked down on our desks and into our inboxes at nine o�*clock this morning, it still had a wow factor in its depth and breadth of the demolition, really, of borisjohnson�*s conduct and his character. it�*s kind of as simple as that. you think... you can see why, when he got it last week, he... hit the roof. he was, you know, not exactly pleased. and that suggestion, i know it�*s academic now, but that suggestion of a sanction, or a suspension of 90, 90 days. and what i hear and is touched on in the report is that a massive contributor to that number being so big was what he did last friday and in the subsequent days since. criticising the committee. yeah, a breach of confidence and also that sense that his contributions to the committee�*s work at various stages, the testimony he gave back in march, what he did on friday, various other things, also served to crank up the opprobrium that they felt for him. pippa, you�*re political editor at the guardian now. you started covering this story when you were at the mirror. it was kind of like following breadcrumbs, wasn�*t it, because you only learnt it bit by bit by bit. what�*s it like seeing the whole loaf? well, it's been a long 18 months and i've been reflecting a bit- on what it was like that first i morning when we ran that first piece in the daily mirror- where i worked at the time, and arrived in parliament. we basically had revealed two - of the gatherings in downing street and talked a bit about the culture that existed there, the fact - that they liked parties and social gatherings. number 10 denied it, - said no rules were broken. and i arrived in parliament - and i was really surprised by... there was a few people like mps and colleagues who said, - "good story, but where does it go?" or, "do you really think it'll get any cut through?" - "it was a year ago." ididn't know, but what i did know was i thought the public— would actually care about it. and that bit of it has- remained true throughout, right up until this point. i although of course i could neverl have envisaged that borisjohnson would quit over this report - as an mp, or indeed before that even, that it would contribute, not the only factor, _ but it would contribute _ to his downfall as prime minister. but i think looking at that report there in front of chris, _ it just is reassuring that actually. parliament and its functions work and i think for so long j they've been traduced and attacked and undermined. ——and i think for so long they've been introduced| and attacked and undermined. and it feels like there's - an opportunity here actually for a reset, and hopefully to try and restore some of that publicj trust in those institutions. one of the things that surprised me... well, there were two things that surprised me when i was reading it on the train on the way in, on tiny text on my tiny phone. first of all, that point you made, chris, aboutjust the backlash against borisjohnson�*s reaction to it. how much that meant to what they decided to theoretically sanction him with. the other one is that actually it does feel like a trial of the whole partygate thing. because to prove their charge that he misled parliament, they have to go through all the covid rules and all the evidence about what was happening in number 10 at the time. so it almost feels like a prosecution of the whole of partygate. i was quite surprised that it felt like that, because i thought it would just be about what he said in parliament. yeah, they didn't re—litigate the whole partygate - saga but you're right, _ it was all there in black and white. and there was actually one example, a new example that we hadn't - seen before, of evidence - from a downing street official who said that basically, - it was as though normal life continued during the pandemic there. there were birthday parties, leaving dos, wine time - fridays all went on. and a line which really struck me was that staff were warned - when they walked out of the building ijust to be careful with the camerasl that were out there, _ and the conclusion by this official that it was all a pantomime. | most of the report wasn't about| what went on in downing street. i it was about boris johnson and hisl response in the house of commons. | but that was just a little reminderj to me that that did underpin it all. and, yes, it does feel a little bit like he has| gone through this trial, if you like, of his peersj in the commons and they've reached | this very, very damning conclusion. | salma, i wonder what your first thoughts were when you started taking a look at this and hearing the headlines this morning on the kind of richter scale of it. for me, that was the surprise. we knew it would be devastating but perhaps not as devastating for borisjohnson as it turned out to be. i think the issue with anything surrounding borisjohnson is that it's overwhelming and everything that comes at you in terms of information and everybody's opinions and takes, you're completely sort of drowned in them. i think it takes a little while, or it took me a little while, to really understand the significance of this. because he had already resigned, so the 90 days is a moot point now. but he had already resigned. but actually what we're talking about is a former prime minister, the most important official in the land, basically no longer, or, well, let's see what the vote says, but the recommendation being him no longer having access to parliament. this is incredible. under a year after he was serving as prime minister. yeah, and a parliamentary committee is telling us that borisjohnson lied. right? that is really significant. and i think it gets lost because there is always this overwhelming narrative, the counter narrative, the language around it, people talking about kangaroo courts and witch hunts and things like that. but fundamentally, this is a very serious constitutional point. and i suppose, actually, picking up on your point, and pippa, the one you made a few moments ago, you can make an argument beyond all of the noise and the characters of all of this and the characters of all of this, that this is... for all of the questioning that we all ask around systems and structures, whether it be of the state or of democracy, of things working, that journalistic. .. the journalistic pursuit of truth followed by parliament scrutinising the executive, or in this instance, a former prime minister, with this level of sanction prompting the prime minister to pre—empt what they were sanctioning, the former prime minister to pre—empt, and leave parliament. the system is somehow working. yeah, i think it took- a while though, didn't it? and there was a lot - of obstacles along the way. i won't forget very readily some - of the responses at downing street, notjust borisjohnson_ in the chamber when confronted by mps, but also the stuff _ we were hearing from mps supportive of him and also downing street itself, the spokesman in there, dismissing the reporting, saying it wasn't true, - personal attacks on me, personal attacks on otherjournalists. - because it wasn'tjust me, - obviously, there were lots of other journalists that broke stories. on this — including at the bbc. and they tried really, - really hard to kind of dismiss it as trivial, to discredit it. and i think for me, that's - ultimately what boris johnson felt about it and probably still feels - about it, that he has been wronged, that this wasn't serious, - that he had this sort of sense of entitlement really that made him feel that he could do whatever- he wanted in downing street, i and that he didn't have to follow the same rules as everyone else. and he got caught — and he hates that more than anything. - can ijust say, i would slightly challenge what you've just said, chris _ go for it. in that this is an indication that the system works. i think the fact we've had to go through this process is actually an indication that the system has not been working. and that's why it is really important that the prime minister now, as the government has already said it's not going to do what borisjohnson did in the case of owen paterson, and just note what the privileges committee has said, it's accepted and allowed a free vote. and i think that we have to be really mindful of the fact that people like me, bag carriers and people who speak tojournalists behind the scenes, we will always exist. and those judgments will always exist that you've got to make when stories like this come up. but i go back to my earlier point. this is an incredibly big moment in uk politics and it is because this huge constitutional thing has happened. a prime minister has been sanctioned at great extent. that is not the system working well, because how did we get to that point where this happened? let�*s talk about the system in the tory party now. and i�*m a bit confused, because at one point you can think, "oh, this might be borisjohnson finished and actually he�*s got a dwindling band of supporters." then you see quite a lot of tweets from mps saying, "i back boris." but then is it really that many? it�*s maybe only about ten. and then you think, well, we�*ve got this vote on monday, that will be a really good test. but then actually, maybe people will abstain because they don�*t want to be involved. that doesn�*t mean they are secret borisjohnson fans, who are wishing for him to come back. i was doing a new episode of the boris podcast that i did in the summer, just catching up with everything. we had someone on there who is a big boris backer, back, and she said "he�*s got a route back to power." and i said, "what is it?" and she couldn�*t say. so then you�*re like, actually, maybe is it all over? and then you think back to rishi sunak on monday when he came out swinging for borisjohnson about the conversations they had reportedly had behind the scenes about all these peerages and you think, actually is this a bit energising for rishi sunak? it�*s given him a bit more oomph, permission to fight back against borisjohnson, rather than just trying to sort of contain him. ijust don�*t... which one is it? a bit of everything? i was really struck that rishi sunak, i�*ve interviewed him a few times in the last couple of weeks, he doesn�*t relish and contrasts in character terms with borisjohnson by about as much as you possibly could. he doesn�*t particularly relish the public stage and the performative element of the tv interview or whatever. that contribution he made on monday when he was at the tech conference, i think, he knew what he wanted to say in advance, it was pithy, it was direct, and he drew a moral distinction with borisjohnson. you could feel a sense that he wanted to say something. but on the borisjohnson thing, the thing that strikes me is that sense of, the question of is it over for borisjohnson? what does "over" mean? in parliamentary terms, yes, in the short term, maybe in the long term. but capacity to cause havoc and snatch attention from rishi sunak, i mean, that�*s huge, isn�*t it? yeah, he's going to lob political hand grenades into the heart i of government and westminster i between now and the next election and probably beyond. whether that's from a platform| of his own tv show or a column orjust turning up on the news, i there's absolutely no denying that he's not going to go quietly. but to your point, adam, - about rishi sunak and whether this is actually a moment he can capitalise on and appear- tough, i think that's . an swi interpretation. that's a westminster interpretation. because we like seeing i things through the prism of who's up, who's down, i who's strong, who's weak? i think the vast majority of the public will be - sitting there going, _ hang on a sec, my mortgage hasjust gone up, my weekly shopping bill hasjust gone up, - my energy bills, i'm _ struggling to make ends meet. and this lot, this tory party over there that are supposed - to be running the countryl and making my life better are squabbling amongst themselves over stuff like who ends up - in the house of lords - or whether borisjohnson lied to parliament. you know, come on, guys, get a grip. focus on what's going on in the real world. i i suppose, to take that one step forward, it, in the minds of a floating voter, it is the extent to which when they think of around the conservative party, they are thinking of borisjohnson, because he keeps popping up in the news even though he is no longer in parliament, or they think of rishi sunak and whether that kind of, the fumes of the borisjohnson era are still sort of loitering. i think there is an important thing that rishi sunak needs to do now, and it is have some sort of sense of renewal and a departure from the borisjohnson era, and the borisjohnson drama, which, you know, does follow him round everywhere, you are totally right, pippa. _ people are worried about their own lives because the rest of us while we obsess about what boris johnson's career's is going to look like, most other people are worried about what their careers and what theirjobs are going to look like. but i think it is important for rishi sunak to be able to create that distinction, and whether he does that because he is being a bit more robust on this issue, whether he does that because, you know, he had this discussion about honours or not, it is an important dividing line, discussion about honours or not, it is an important dividing line. it might not have as much resonance as he wants to but i think it is important for him to be able to pivot to what should be the new future. obviously accepting that boris isn't going to go quietly as is evidenced by the statements, but we have to draw a line somewhere. what has surprised me is i thought this would collide head long with the covid inquiry, starting its hearings this week, and it sort of hasn�*t really felt like that. i wonder if it�*s just because it has been a couple of days between the first hearing and this actual report, do you think actually, pippa, the two things do collide? i think they're probably... they are probably quite separate. though i did note in a foot note - on the report, that it suggests that if whatsapp messages and otheri details that borisjohnson handed over to the covid inquiry show anything in a new light, - provide new evidence if you like, that the committee reserves - the option of looking into them. i mean we kind of say "this i is all over, this is done now.", but, there is that and there - is also, committee is going to, just talking of future action - they are going to produce a special l report into some of the criticism i they have received from other mp5, allies of boris johnson, _ who themselves have been in contempt of parliament for doing that. and just a little hilarious foot note to partygate, pippa, your birthday is the same day as borisjohnson�*s, so the day when the cake stayed in the tupperware, it was your birthday too. i looked back through my camera, l it is monday 19th, yes, my birthday. happy birthday as well. thank you. so this week was the start of the public inquiry into how the uk handled covid, well, it wasn�*t the start the inquiry it was the start of the public evidence hearing so where we will see people, you mentioned david cameron is going to be there quite soon, and it started off, and huw pym was telling me on newscast it was started with this video. with lot of families who had lost their loved ones, explaining what it all meant to them, so i was doing the dishes the next morning and i was like, oh, i will pop that video on while i am doing the dishes and i was completely transfixed by it. it is so powerful, it is so moving and the stories are just incredible. and then all week i have been sort of thinking back, to like, experiences i had like that with people who had gone through that and one of the big memories i had was chatting to the person who is in the studio now, the journalist catherine mayer. hello. we chatted back in may 2020 when things were so bleak, and you very movingly told us the story of the death of your partner, andy, who was in the band gang of four. do you want to remind us, if it is not too traumatic, why you wanted to talk to us that day? do you know, i'm not sure i can remember why i wanted to talk to you, but i do know that there was something i felt impelled to say, and it was because i had at that point only reallyjust discovered that andy had been a victim of covid, because he died right at the start of the pandemic, and because of the time lines, people didn't think that that could have been it, because you know, it supposedly hadn't come out of china yet, and all of that. because he had been on tour in china. hadn�*t he, in 2019? yes, and he got back in december2019, and he was, he was ill when he got back, and then became iller and iller and eventually died in february, so the pandemic had started, though i can't remember if it was called a pandemic at that point, but, there was and remains a lot of confusion around the time lines so i had batted off reporters in fact, asking me if he had been killed by covid. and then discovered only in may, i think very shortly before i spoke to you that the hospital had instituted its own investigation into his death, but i had anyway of course, you know, because he died and then we had gone into the first and hardest of the lockdowns, and so i had been going and my stepfather also died, i don't even know if i talked to you about that, but he had died just before andy, of hospital—acquired pneumonia, and, so aside from seeing my mother who was widowed, i saw nobody. i was obeying all of the rules, i was staying indoors, doing all the things and i was very aware of a sense of kinship ——doing all the things you were supposed to do. and i was very aware of a sense of kinship with the people who were losing people, but i was also aware of an extraordinary series of privileges that i had by comparison to them. i had been able to be with andy when he died. it was before people were banned from bedsides, and i had been able to celebrate him. we even managed to hold a memorial just before the first, literallyjust before the first lockdown, but the main thing is he was a public figure and so he was being celebrated by people other than me, and we were all talking about him, and, all the numbers were creeping up, of the covid dead, and i realised that there was this blurring that was happening. that instead of people having a sense of each of those people being as andy was to me and my family, and our friends, that these people were being erased and forgotten. they were just becoming statistics. so i think what i said to you, although i can't remember, i think what i tried to do was talk about, please, let's rememberthat everybody who dies not only is somebody who mattered but that they have these huge constellations of people who were impacted by it. you used the phrase a few moments ago about the kinship of this community that has come together via horrendous circumstances of people who have lost loved ones to covid in, i guess, wildly varying circumstances, but with overlaps in terms of the human emotions connected to grief. but then doing so, around this both global and uk event with so many unanswered questions around how it was handled. yes. well, that group — covid bereaved families forjustice was started by two people who were total strangers who met on facebook. and social media of course is a beast with all sorts of negatives, as well as positives, but it was incredibly important for this and for connection during that time of lockdown. just as zooms were, and we lived online. and they had both lost close family members and they started discussing it and it was first a support group where people were comparing experiences. as i say, for many people it was such a... people conflate grief and trauma but they are very different things. people didn't get to be with the person they loved who was dying. they not only didn't get to be with them, they didn't get to celebrate them. they often didn't really have any contact at all, they would be taken away in an ambulance or be consigned to a care home and they would not see them. so a lot of them also had notjust trauma but disbelief. they couldn't actually believe that the person was gone. it's like the war dead, it's like the empty sarcophagus, the cenotaph. there wasn't even a focal point for that. so this group became the focal point for it and it began channelling... i remember those early conversations and we were all talking about the lesons that there were. there were these lessons that could be learned that would stop people dying not in the next pandemic but this pandemic, if you only listened to those personal stories. i think one of the other things to understand is, you know, i am very functional for somebody who is grieving and does carry trauma. but one of the ways that you achieve that functionality is to compartmentalise. and so, a lot of the time i protect myself from some of this news. but of course, today we've had the partygate report as well as us being in the beginning of this inquiry which covid bereaved families campaigned for. we are very happy that it's happening. it took way too long to start because as i say, there's an urgency. you might save lives from knowing these stories. but of course, the covid bereaved stories, apart from that wonderful video at the beginning, are not being represented within any of the modules. we wanted... the lawyers for the group had come up with 20 sample case studies. everybody understands this can't go on indefinitely, it has to be run properly and fast and efficiently. but there were these 20 stories that could... in each story had some systemic failure or some learning that could save people now, notjust in some hypothetical... the inquiry rejected that, almost the epigram at the start of the chapter of a book. that would be the story that would start that module, but they didn�*t go for that. they didn't go for that. so, there is this sort of mixed feelings about the inquiry. one of the burdens that we all carry is this anger. like, grief... it's a truism that grief is love but it really is. and one of the ways you... your ambition for grief shouldn't be to get rid of it. people are ridiculous in the idea that you can move on or shed it. what you do is you make it livable. you embrace it. it's part of your life. and ambition for grief is such a powerful phrase. about how to wrestle with something. exactly. but you can't do that with trauma and you absolutely can't do that with anger. and i don't know if you can hear my voice is getting strained, evenjust thinking about borisjohnson and the government. and all of us carry the sort of burning ember that is a kind of toxic burning ember as well. i want to be able to celebrate andy and think about him peacefully and i want to compartmentalise that away, but you can't. what will you get from the inquiry, then, other thanjust the lessons that can be applied to the next pandemic? or is that all that will be? no. it's very important. as i say, there is disappointment that the stories won't be heard but it isn'tjust because i'm somebody who lost... you know, i lost andy, i lost the love of my life. but that doesn't mean i think that's the only thing that mattered about the pandemic. i think that there are many lessons that need to be learned. but, i mean, ithink the biggest thing for everybody who campaigned for that inquiry was to make sure that people are spared what we went through. and so if there is a sense from the inquiry that it has, you know, even if a few lives are saved because of the inquiry... i promised myself i wouldn't cry. it�*s fine. these are angry tears. these are not the tears i cried before. i would like to go back to, you know... back to a purer grief. catherine, thank you so much for coming back on newscast. it�*s been lovely to catch up with you. after all these years, it�*s years. yes. so, thank you. you're welcome. and that�*s all for this episode of newscast. we�*ll be back with another one very soon. bye. bye— bye. hello there. we saw a lot more cloud around on saturday, and it signals a change in the type of weather. we did manage some sunshine, mind you, in temperatures — 27 celsius in the southeast of england, where it is much better weather for a fly—past this time. but things are really going to kick off on sunday, especially later on in the afternoon, through the evening, a lot of rain developing, aould be some large damaging hail. torrential rain likely to bring some flooding, and a lot of thunder and lightning, as well. we start the day with some sunshine, but may well be some sharp showers from overnight in southeast of england and east anglia. and as temperatures rise, so the cloud builds up, and we�*ll see more of those downpours developing, particularly across england and wales, and into northern ireland. probably not so many showers in scotland. more in the way of sunshine here, and temperatures around 22—24 celsius — and again, it�*ll be quite muggy. now, we may well have some thunderstorms across northern ireland, but the worst of those will be developing across parts of england and wales. and through the latter part of the afternoon, into the evening, really wet weather will push its way northwards up into northern england, away from southern england and the midlands, and wales, and eventually that wetter weather arrives overnight into scotland. some torrential rain likely to bring some flooding, a lot of thunder and lightning in there, as well. that wet weather still across northern scotland on monday — it does tend to ease off. following on from that, there�*ll be some sunny spells, a scattering of showers, 1—2 of them on the heavy side perhaps. many places may well be dry. still quite warm, temperatures again around about in the mid—20s, more likely, across the midlands and eastern parts of england. now instead of high pressure that�*s brought dry weather for some areas of the country for so long, it�*ll be low pressure that�*s sitting close by over the week ahead, which will bring the threat of some more heavy and thundery downpours. there�*ll be some sunshine around, as well, on tuesday, and it should be quite warm. many eastern areas likely to be dr — it�*s out towards the west that we�*ve got most of those thunderstorms developing, and again, there could be some localised flooding. so temperatures around about 22—23 celslius on tuesday. and we�*ll keep temperatures over the weekend around the mid—20s or so. there will be some further heavy, perhaps thundery showers over the weekend. maybe turning a little less humid, a little fresher, and perhaps some southeastern parts of the uk later in the week will be a bit drier. live from washington, this is bbc news. dozens of students have been killed at a school in western uganda by rebels linked to an islamic state group. the us secretary of state heads to china amid growing tensions between the two countries. and thousands line the streets of london to watch king charles

Related Keywords

Ramaphosa , Concern , Feud Security , Food Security , Wall , Delegation , Blockages , Peace Proposals , Elements , Plan , Fertiliser , Grain , South Africa , Ten , Ukraine , Russia , Passage , Sovereignty , Black Sea , President Putin , Children , Issue , Prisoners Of War , Reason , Position , Version , Presentations , Instability , Coup D Etat , 2014 , Meeting , Safety , Parents , Events , Leaders , Dialogue , Talks , Didn T He , African , Expectation , Anything , Proposals , Extent , People , Indication , Explosions , We Saw Yesterday , Kyiv , It , Change , Anybody , Mission , Face , Result , War , Ceasefire , Factions , Mind , Sudan , 72 , Health Minister , Half , Haitham Ibrahim , 6000 , 3000 , Police , South , Hospitals , Service , Air Strike , West Darfur State , Capital Khartoum , Khartoum , 130 , Four , 17 , Five , West London , Monika Wlodarczyk , Dawid Wlodarczyk , House In Hounslow , Michal Wlodarczyk , Three , 11 , 39 , 35 , Murder , Police Officers , Person , Oman , Connection , Property , Deaths , Hounslow , Entry , Bodies , Ian Coates , Hit , Court , Stabbing University Students , Valdo Calocane , T Shirt , A Van , Barnaby Webber , Grace 0 Malley Kumar , 0 , 31 , Adam Mendez , Us , Jogging Bottoms , Name , Murders , Jogging , Age , Address , Abode , Alias , 19 , Students , Also , Streets , Counts , Nottingham , 65 , Grief , Thousands , Members , Public , In The City Centre , Attacks , Visuals , Outpouring , Two , Northern England , Families , Series , Victims , The Ashes Cricket Test , Birmingham , Australia , Uk , Video Footage , Status , Custody , Nottingham Crown Court , On Tuesday , Portuguese , Restrictions , Newspaper , Footage , Covid , Headquarters , Conservative Party , London , Lockdown Restrictions , 2020 , 2 , Event , Household , Iain , Number , Fines , Reasons , Convservatives , 0ur Political Correspondent Iain Watson , One , Government , Time , Pa Rtygate , Lots , Downing Street , Reports , Buildings , Ruling Party , Action , Basement , Country , Part , Socialising , Family , Rest , Support Bubble , Mixing , Shaun Bailey , Video , Campaign Team , Residences , Boris Johnson , Member , Mayor , Chamber , Campaign , House Of Lords , Questions , Peerage , Effectivelyjoining , Legislature , Isn T , Rishi Sunak , Someone , Gathering , Prime Minister , Opposition Labour Party , Goodness , Staff , Owners , Lib Dems , Pandemic , Way , Covid Inquiry , Response , Opposition , Flight , Calls , Apology , Bailey Hasn , Inquiries , Report , Parliament , Mp , Either , Borisjohnson S Resignation , Problems , Something , Victor , Fine , Fixed Penalty Notice , Rishi Snowball Into , Course , Line , Party , Behind , Itjust , Mps , Party Committee , Attention , Will Debating Reports , Occasions , Think , Debate , Conduct , Splits , Differences , Interest Rates , Some , Comments , Deal , Challenges , Shadow , Mortgage Rates , Predecessor , Analysis , David Warburton , Southwest England , Froom , By Election , Mail On Sunday Newspaper , Sommerton , Hearing , Homeowners , Cocaine , Allegations , Sexual Harrasment , Sexually , Women , Warning , Deals , Mortgage Crunch , Think Tank , 000 , Amount , County Down , Eleanor , Mortgage , Estate , Food Increases , Mortgage Market , Energy Increases , Price Increases , Increases , Lenders , Flux , Lot , Customers , Fear , Panic , Headache , Rates , Basis , Mortgage Brokers , Anic , Payments , Mortgages , Increase , 5 , 6 , 2 5 , Costs , Customer , Mortgage Holders , Resolution Foundation , 2026 , 7 5 Million , 2900 , 15 8 Billion , 5 8 Billion , 900 , Things , Back , Mortgage Bill , Currents , Scale , Think Tank S Director , Pulse , Cost , Borrowing , Saying , Thought A Month , Economy , Bank , Pay , Situation , Data , Inflation , Angle , Borrowin , There , Echoes , Democrat , Where , Big Banks Push Borrowing , Big Banks Borrowing , Banks Push , Analysts , 1989 , 1596 , 196 , 15 , 1 , Market , Advice , Options , Ultracheap Mortgage Lending , Landlords , Charles Rex , Birthday , Bbc News , Colour , Monarch , Horseback , End , Marc Ashdown , 30 , God Save The King , Guards , Birthday Parade , Them , Arms , Nicholas Witchell , Royal Correspondent , Salute , Princes George , Ratherfriskier Mount , Louis , Dias , Uniform , Camilla , Parade , Princess Charlotte , Window , Outfit , Horse Guards , 0n , Wales , Colonel , Princess , She , Grenadier Guards , Irish Guards , Emerald Green , Welsh Guards , On Parade , Regiments , Mall , Carriage Ride , Waving , Buckingham Palace , Weather , Summer , Raf S , Place , Palace , Fly Past , Fighters , Balcony , Skies , Jets , Latest , Coronation Day , Battle Of Britain Memorial Flight , 18 , King , Letters , Cr , Tribute To Britain , Andriy Levishchenko , Shuttle People , Boat , Roof , House , Shells , Water , Kherson Area , Saxophone , National Anthem , Clout , Thanks , Watching , Sunshine , Evening , Southeast , Type , Temperature , Rain Developing , Fly , 27 , Torrential Rain , Showers , Temperatures , Flooding , Thunder , Lightning , Downpours , Northern Scotland , Northern Ireland , The Cloud , C Again , 22 , 24 , Parts , Afternoon , Worst , Thunderstorms , Southern England , Thunder And Lightning , Midlands , Northern Scotland On Monday , Places , Scattering , Side , Swells , 20 , Pressure , Areas , Threat , Sitting , Sundry , West , Most , Thunderstorms Developing , Celsius On Tuesday , 23 , Little , Thundershowers , Headlines , 41 , Islamic State Group , School , Several , Western Uganda , Militants , Sunday Morning , Strike Action , Fighting , Generals , Teachers , Pay Dispute , Newscast , Bit , Bbc , Custard , Sounds , Thing , Kind , Ve , Postcode , Electorate , Rehearsal , Parties , Pippa Crerar , Salma Shah , News Story , Inventor , Sajid Javid , Document , Counting , Likelihood , Jeopardy , Sanctions , Advance , Plank , Factor , Character , Demolition , Breadth , Borisjohnson S Conduct , Desks , Inboxes , Depth , Nine , Suggestion , Sanction , Contributor , Suspension , Academic , 90 , Privileges Committee , Sense , Contributions , Confidence , Testimony , Breach , Stages , Opprobrium , Story , Guardian , Mirror , Political Editor , Wasn , Breadcrumbs , Loaf , Piece , Daily Mirror , Fact , Culture , Gatherings , Colleagues , No Rules , Ididn T Know , 10 , Aboutjust , Neverl , Even , Downfall , Functions , Front , Chris Go For It , Opportunity , Backlash , Institutions , Reset , Trust , Phone , Text , Train , Publicj , Evidence , Rules , Trial , Charge , Borisjohnson S Reaction , Whole Partygate Saga , Whole , Prosecution , Black And White , Example , Official , Life , Birthday Parties , Building , Before , Leaving Dos , Conclusion , Ijust , Camerasl , Wasn T , Pantomime , House Of Commons , Hisl , Reminderj , Peersj , Commons , Headlines , Look , Surprise , Thoughts , Richter Scale , Everybody , Everything , Terms , Opinions , Information , Land , Significance , Vote , Serving , Access , Recommendation , Let S See , Narrative , Counter Narrative , Language , Kangaroo Courts , Witch Hunts , Point , Characters , Ask , Questioning , The One , Noise , Argument , Leave Parliament , Systems , Democracy , Sanctioning , Instance , Structures , Executive , Truth , Level , Pursuit , System , Notjust Borisjohnson , Responses , Didn T , Obstacles , Stuff , Wasn T True , Wasn Tjust Me , Reporting , Spokesman , Downing Street Itself , Otherjournalists , Stories , Sort , Journalists , Wasn T Serious , Entitlement , Everyone Else , Say , Works , Process , Case , Owen Paterson , Scenes , Bag Carriers , Politics , Judgments , Band , Big Boris Backer , Many , Supporters , Test , Tweets , Episode , Fans , Boris Podcast , Like , Route , Conversations , Bit Energising , Given , Permission , Oomph , Him , Ijust Don T , Times , Contrasts , Character Terms , Stage , Element , T Relish , Borisjohnson Thing , Distinction , Contribution , Tv Interview , Tech Conference , Yes , Over , Term , Sense Of , Question , Isn , Capacity , Havoc , News , Tv Show , Heart , Election , Hand Grenades , Westminster , Platform , Orjust , Column , Interpretation , Swi Interpretation , Energy Bills , Ends Meet , Prism , My Weekly Shopping Bill Hasjust , Up , Who , Mortgage Hasjust , Sec , Majority , Real World Ii Suppose , What S Going On , Come On , Get A Grip , Countryl , Squabbling , Guys , One Step Forward , Voter , Minds , Fumes , Loitering , Renewal , Departure , Which , Borisjohnson Drama , Lives , Career , Careers , Everywhere , Honours , Discussion , Dividing Line , Statements , Boris Isn T , Resonance , Head , Somewhere , Hearings , Hasn , Couple , Committee Reserves , Option , Messages , Details , Covid Inquiry Show Anything , Whatsapp , L , Mp5 , Criticism , Note , Allies , Borisjohnson S , Contempt , Camera , Cake , Tupperware , Inquiry , Start , It Wasn , Dishes , Loved Ones , David Cameron , Huw Pym , Catherine Mayer , Thinking Back , Studio , Memories , Partner , Death , Andy , Gang Of Four , May 2020 , Victim , Lines , Hadn T , The , Tour , China , December2019 , 2019 , Confusion , Reporters , May , Literallyjust , Hospital , Lockdowns , Investigation , Stepfather , Hardest , Mother , Pneumonia , Nobody , Kinship , Comparison , Privileges , Lockdown , Memorial , Bedsides , Figure , Blurring , Numbers , Covid Dead , Statistics , Each , Friends , Somebody , Constellations , Let , Rememberthat , Phrase , Circumstances , Overlaps , Community , Human Emotions , Covid In , Group Covid , On Facebook , Sorts , Positives , Social Media , Beast , Strangers , Negatives , Families Forjustice , Family Members , Support Group , Experiences , Zooms , Trauma , A People Conflate , Contact , Care Home , Ambulance , Cenotaph , Notjust Trauma , Empty Sarcophagus , Focal Point , Channelling , There Wasn T , Lesons , Lessons , Ways , Functionality , Compartmentalise , Beginning , Being , Urgency , Any , Case Studies , Lawyers , Modules , Notjust , Failure , Module , Chapter , Book , Epigram , Anger , Carry , Love , Feelings , Burdens , Truism , Ambition , Grief Shouldn T , Idea , Voice , Evenjust , Ember , Disappointment , Won T , Thanjust , Away , Love Of My Life , Doesn T , Ithink , It S Fine , Cry , Tears , Bye , Rain , Aould , More , Cloud , East Anglia , Muggy , Spells , Thundery , Well , Weekend , Heavy , Dozens , Rebels , Washington , Countries , Secretary Of State , Tensions , Streets Of London ,

© 2024 Vimarsana

comparemela.com © 2020. All Rights Reserved.