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Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Election Wrap 20170522



and the conservatives can't be trusted. we have not rewritten the manifesto, the principles upon which it is written remain the same, we need to ensure that we have long—term sustainability and social care, we need to be able to ensure that we can fund social care for the future, we are doing the honest thing in putting a proposal to the british people. how is it honest to reject a cap in your manifesto and four days later say, we are going to have a cap, what is honest about that?! what we set out in the manifesto was a series of principles, to say to people, first of all, this is a big issue, we need to address it and we are being honest that we must fix it, and that is what i want to do, i am not going to play politics with it, very my head in the sand, that is whatjeremy corbyn does with it. no, you arejust going to change or mind on it, apparently. this woman is already doing another u—turn! she decided it wasn't parliament that decided it wasn't parliament that decided her view. john prescott today. jeremy corbyn has pressed fast forward on plans to scrap tuition fees, saying he will scrap them for university students in england this autumn. he says the conservatives have helped students back for too long by helping to travel tuition fees to more than £9,000 a year, the labour leader would like to live the cloud of debt, as he puts it, by making it free for people to study at university in england. if we carry on with this process of ever rising fa res, on with this process of ever rising fares, a threat of lifting the cap altogether, what happens? two things, one, those that have achieved enough to get into university, gone through university, leave with debts of often £50,000 and more than that. if they earn more than £21,000, they have to start repaying it, but the debt is still there for a long time after that. i'm determined that university education should be available for all. not the best of days for theresa may. all the polls were coming out in the sunday papers yesterday, it is embarrassing, it is a u—turn, i thought about bringing in a handbrake so we could all have a go, she's beginning to sound a little bit like bob the builder, i'll fix it, fix it. you have to go through this 24, 48 hours, it's embarrassing, but there is no way around it. she has done a u—turn. the problem is not so much the social care policy, it is, one would hope, there is a serious grown—up debate about it, but it is the "strong and stable" looks like wobbling. .. that is the key, chipping away that the edifice she herself put up, of being the strong leader. "strong and stable" is a real problem for her, she now looks weak and feeble, and that will haunt her through the rest of the campaign. ithink her through the rest of the campaign. i think also, the her through the rest of the campaign. ithink also, the policy itself is a problem, she is going to have to come up with a figure for the cap at some point. you're not going anywhere! you are both locked down here. no u—turns from you! so is ita down here. no u—turns from you! so is it a cap, a floor, a change of heart? chris morris has been trying to get to the bottom of today's conservative social care announcement. social care was away is going to be a big issue, now it is going to be a big issue, now it is front and centre in a big political row. last week, the conservative manifesto proposed that anybody receiving long—term social ca re anybody receiving long—term social care in england would be allowed to keep £100,000 of their assets including the value of their home, and no one would have to sell the family home to pay for care in their lifetime, that is much aimed. but last week the conservatives also ruled out introducing any cap, or maximum amount that anyone would be asked to pay for social care, once the first hundred thousand had been taken into consideration. andrew dilnot suggested there should bea cap andrew dilnot suggested there should be a cap on how much anybody has to pay for care, be a cap on how much anybody has to payfor care, in be a cap on how much anybody has to pay for care, in 2015, tory ma nifesto pay for care, in 2015, tory manifesto supported the idea of a cap which was set to be 72,000 at that point. when asked about a proposed cap now, in 2017, this is whatjeremy hunt proposed cap now, in 2017, this is what jeremy hunt told proposed cap now, in 2017, this is whatjeremy hunt told the bbc last thursday. not only are we dropping it, we are dropping it ahead of the general election, we are being completely explicit in the manifesto that we are dropping it, we are dropping it because we have looked again at the proposal and we don't think it is fair. queue several days of awkward conversations on the doorsteps for conservative candidate and four days later, a rather different message from the prime minister, we will make sure, she said today, there will be an absolute limit on what people will need to pay for care. —— cue. in other words, there will be a cap, but there is no indication of the level at which it might be set.“ the cap fits, you've got to wear it, what has prompted this change of heart? look at the sunday times front page, tory wobble, as cuts for elderly slash lead. the paper had a yougov poll which cut the advanatge to just 9 percent. "the dementia tax backlash" was the lead for the mail on sunday and it had a separate poll, by survation, which suggested the tories‘ lead had slipped by 5 points. but it's notjust the polls and the front pages. there had been reports that mrs may's social care policy had been getting a lukewarm reception on the doorstep over the weekend, something the pm found out for herself yesterday: i haven't looked into it in detail but i was thinking about what your ma nifesto but i was thinking about what your manifesto has to say about the old people's savings. is this the kind of problem that a leader in counters because they are so far ahead in the polls? a bit of that, she felt co mforta ble polls? a bit of that, she felt comfortable enough to be able to go and do this because you would have been as vague as you possibly could and assuming you win power, you would do it, partly the idea that she is invincible but it has turned out she has not been invincible, it has gone down to single figures, a huge drop from where she was, looking at a massive majority, three figures, the other danger is, imagine what a three figure majority would be, you would not have u—turns like this, the idea would come up and she would carry it out. labour are still way back. yes, we have a long way to go, and it feels like an endless treadmill, for people out campaigning on the doorstep, anything could happen, there are always blips, there are always stumbles during election campaigns, this happens to be a spectacular one because of the u—turn. it will not because of the u—turn. it will not be the first time that the polls may be the first time that the polls may be wrong, they will change again by the weekend, i've no doubt, labour have yet to come up with anything other than motherhood and apple pie and lollipops for everyone. that is appealing to people. what is interesting is there was a poll at the weekend, we talked about it saturday night, which showed that jeremy corbyn, for the first time, had actually got a slightly better poll rating for personal rating in terms of leadership qualities... i can't remember what the question was. it was about ordinary qualities. on a personal level low, we have just seen a set piece interview from theresa may, very in control, we know how it works, people on the doorsteps will be dealing with their prospective mps and candidates and jeremy corbyn is apparently doing quite well in face—to—face stuff, i think there is everything to play for. who knows what else might happen. a u-turn like this as far as i can see is unique ina like this as far as i can see is unique in a general election, i cannot remember anybody else ever going back on a policy from a ma nifesto. going back on a policy from a manifesto. it is notjust the supreme manifesto. it is notjust the supreme confidence that you could go to your core voters, your reliable older voters and do something like that, because you could have still done it and said we are going to have a green paper in the autumn, to look at, you did not have to lay it out in the manifesto, i think what is happening, we are hearing from government and party is all the time, a small group of people who are doing stuff and they are not asking around, and nobody is saying, do you think how this will play? nobody is having difficult conversation before they go public. so what do those people who receive care and those who provide it, make of the latest controversy? our east midlands health correspondent rob sissons has been speaking to some of those who'd be affected: i found i was decimated by the war. __ my i found i was decimated by the war. —— my father was decimated by the war. my father and four brothers we re war. my father and four brothers were all killed in action. when you get older, you get worried about things like that. the state should p5y~ things like that. the state should pay. in awful lot of people have made that much money and could afford to look after themselves. it is such a tricky area and it has been going downhill for years. if we are going downhill for years. if we are going to the nitty—gritty, it is difficult. things change in five yea rs. we difficult. things change in five years. we will be long gone. means testing for winter fuel payments, getting rid of school lunches. triple lock down to a double lock, are these policies put forward precisely because the conservatives are convinced they are going to win? yes, or they were at the time, the one thing you can do by sticking to the manifesto is you do not have any trouble in the house of lords, the house of lords will not challenge policies that have been elected on through the manifesto, so that's another reason to do it, but the idea of being quite so detailed about this, it is because at this point she thought, i can lose a few voters, it will be fine, this is a shoo—in, but she did not realise how may voters she would be losing. that isa may voters she would be losing. that is a bit unfair, because some of these things are the difficult conversations we referred to. she said this at the launch of the ma nifesto. said this at the launch of the manifesto. to be honest, if you think, we can't afford this so we will look at it. it is an unusual campaigning strategy! you know the convention, and campaigned in poetry, yougov and in prose. —— you know the convention, you campaigning poetry, you govern in prose. there is another word we could use but no bad language! labour also turned their attention to tuition fees today, a highly charged issue for many, and one which sank the political aspirations of the lib dems in the last election, after the broken pledge of their 2010 manifesto. labour says it would bring forward a promise to scrap tuition fees completely, to include students starting university in england this autumn. this is whatjeremy corbyn had to say. since the fees have gone up, under the coalition government, the numbers of working—class youngsters going to university has declined, the numberof going to university has declined, the number of university applications has started to go down, surely we should be investing in our future, somebody who does not achieve the profession they want, nursing, teaching, medicine in some other form, nursing, teaching, medicine in some otherform, engineering, nursing, teaching, medicine in some other form, engineering, whatever it happens to be, they lose out but we asa happens to be, they lose out but we as a society lose out because we have lost a qualified person who can help improve industries, improve services. everyone knew what the a nswer services. everyone knew what the answer was to the question, with labour providing the answer, how are you going to pay for this, corporation tax increase. do bear in mind when people are adding this up thatjohn donald has got £250 billion he is going to borrow, and so he can pay for all of the policies. you may not want to see any more borrowing but it is one of the other, lives could be made better and they can afford to do it but it might mean they do not meet deficit targets. they need to say that instead of banging on about... maybe they should, maybe they should. why don't they? why won't they say that? they do not want to admit they are boring, because they know what will come back and haunt them is the borrowing, the tax and spend. in fairness, the tax might actually raise the money, the problem about raising taxes at the higher level is you often don't get the return that you are expecting. you also damage business, if you bring ina you also damage business, if you bring in a corporation tax, if you do the anti—business stuff, any sensible businessman who thinks there will be a labour government, given "brexit" as well will be planning for the next two or three... i'm not quite sure about business, they would say the minimum wage will damage them, when it first came in, if they don't like taxes... at the level you are talking about, to raise the moneyjeremy corbyn needs in corporation tax, businesses will be preparing for how they will invest in infrastructure, the extra cost of "brexit", all of that. the idea that they will sit there and say, that is fine, corporation tax going up... they are not going to say it is fine, any more than anybody else is about anything. i think labour is being disingenuous by not saying, and we would borrow. good day for labour. very good day. the mere fact that the polls have come down to where they are... this time last week, jeremy corbyn looked like he had not got a hope of winning the election at all, today, it looks like he could. all right, 0k. so the former deputy prime minister, lord prescott, joined jeremy corbyn in the sun in scarborough today. he knows how to whip up a crowd. now remember how many elections i have been around, i have been around a while, remember, 1997, after18 years of tories, hospitals were collapsing. there was homelessness in our society. unemployment was high, and we came in and we promised. did we reduce the unemployment to get people back to work? yes! did we do that? now we are talking! cheering old hands can be useful, even lord prescott, remember this from the scottish referendum campaign. at last, the world is hearing the voices of the real people in scotland, there is not a cemetery in europe that does not have scott 's, welsh, english and irish lying side—by—side. let us tell the nationalists, this is not their flight, nationalists, this is not their flight, their country, their culture, their streets. —— scots. this is everyone's flag, everyone's culture, everyone's culture and everyone's streets! that was gordon brown speaking the day before the scottish independence referendum in 2014, some credited him afterwards with saving the union. lord prescott was deputy prime minister to tony blair, one wonders, with the lukewarm reception, the lu kewa rm with the lukewarm reception, the lukewarm response tojohn prescott, when he first asked for people to show appreciation, the achievements of the blair government, was... the break with old labour, cementing of new labour, it wasjohn prescott break with old labour, cementing of new labour, it was john prescott who we re new labour, it was john prescott who were sent out as tony blair's cannon fodder, if you like, to go and say, this is what is going to happen. and we re this is what is going to happen. and were going to get rid of clause iv. look at these old hands, they are very good. doesn't matter which political party they are, they are interesting and funny because the weight of standing for election is com pletely weight of standing for election is completely ta ken from weight of standing for election is completely taken from them. a lot of people on the hard left sawjohn prescott as a traitor, because he did the bidding of tony blair. far more comfortable with jeremy corbyn than tony blair. but he does understand that in order to win, you have two... 20 years since he punched a voter, he is a bit of a character. at the comedy awards... he got a bucket of water or champagne tipped over him, at the brit awards. the ice buckets challenge, orsomething, brit awards. the ice buckets challenge, or something, wasn't it(!) that was something entirely different. i was buying it later on. the green party has called for bold action on the environment, education, welfare and brexit at the launch of its manifesto. the party's co—leader, caroline lucas, said they had "very distinct" plans for a universal basic income and a shorter working week aiming for a "confident and caring" nation. this election is about what kind of future we want for our children. it is about protecting our values of openness, of compassion, of cooperation. it's about our promise that a confident and caring future is possible if we work together, if we do politics differently, and if we dare to be more ambitious. sinn fein has unveiled its election manifesto. their plans include a proposal for a referendum on irish unity within five years, called for a special designated status for northern ireland within the eu and proposals to install an irish language act. their stormont leader michelle o'neill said that they were seeing the beginnings of a 'new political era'. so this is very much an opportunity to tell both the tories and the dup again, in the strongest possible terms, that we reject brexit, that we would reject any border, that we reject any attempt to put limits on our freedom of movement, we reject barriers to trade and agriculture, and we absolutely reject tory cuts. that we stand for rights, for equality, and for irish unity. so, what have the snp been up to today? well, they've been cooking up pledges and policies for their manifesto launch tomorrow. nicola sturgeon was getting in the mood today, meeting out a few tasters as to what we can expect, and giving the voters in scotland some food for thought. well, a peanut butter cupcake for breakfast is perhaps not the healthiest option, but it was absolutely delicious. and this is a fantastic facility, and the cakes were definitely a highlight. now, on a serious note, you're here campaigning in the constituency this morning, jobs mainly the focus today. jobs and fairness are, i think, at the heart of this election. and when the snp outlines our manifesto tomorrow we will put the protection ofjobs, through standing against an extreme brexit, at the heart of our manifesto. we will also put the issue of fairness at its heart as well. we see in equality rising across the uk, and more and more people being plunged into poverty because of tory policies. bid leaders debate in scotland yesterday, are the snp feeling confident they will be able to pull out all the stops? no, i don't think they are, and i think part of the problem is, although it feels like 300 years ago, when nicola sturgeon launched the promised that there would be indyref two, only a few days later, theresa may called a general election. -- big leaders debate. the polls in scotland suggest people do not want another referendum, or if they do, they are lu kewa rm referendum, or if they do, they are lukewarm about it, possibly as she would be about the peanut butter thing she had for breakfast, slightly better than a deep—fried mars bar, i think they are under threat, the snp, nicholas durden is an extremely able, good, compelling politician but i do think that they are under attack, and they will lose some seats. not least of all because they will bejudged some seats. not least of all because they will be judged on their record domestic, if you only have one team which you play, another referendum, another referendum, when actually, there are other things going on, funding of social care, education, and cuts and things like that, then i think they will tend to lose, probably to the tories. is it the conservatives who stand to gain? yes, nicola sturgeon was taken on the hop by the election, she would not have called indyref two had she known there was an election round the corner. let's move on, though we might not know the result, certain things about an election campaign are guaranteed, your letterbox will be stuffed with leaflets, and politicians will kiss babies at every opportunity. campaign veteran john hess 's missing something, i will let him explain. this is my 12 general election campaign but there is something strangely missing from this campaign. this is my question for the parties. where are... where are the election posters! party campaigners are still seeking the prime position to hammer down their political messages, even they detect something is different. social media is important as well, we are spending a lot more time doing that on the selection than on any other election before us. the youngsters are on social media but a lot of the shall we say more mature people who are not social media friendly need to see what's happening as well. on a staircase at the university of nottingham, a gallery of iconic posters from past elections. it was a classic negative slogan. the irony is that this was the hendon young conservatives, not the hendon young conservatives, not the unemployed at all, that was another irony, this snake, one of the most successful posters of all time. where are they in this campaign? the advertisers have been caught on the hop, this entry was not time, advertisers usually need time to think these things through. simply has not been the time to generate the posters. voiceover: eyes on westminster, that goes for more than 1700 election candidates... screaming lord such... some election posters are now collectors items, although their value at the time is not always appreciated. so, if you feel you are missing out on those posters in this snap election, you can always make your own. studio: labour isn't working, labour's tax bombshell, some of those classics, i was trying to think of a labour poster knocking the conservatives but i can think of any famous ones. we were thinking about the demonise, and... that was iconic. i can think of any others, labour isn't working, that was... not as good asjohn hess's main poster... not as good asjohn hess's main poster. . . what not as good asjohn hess's main poster... what we are not seeing is leaflets in windows... i have seen loads. i don't know if voter fatigue has already set in. and posters in gardens, that is in the real world. is this campaign... in an age of social media, as the campaign change, a lot of analysis done by both campaigns from facebook and whatever, voting intentions and so full, has that taken the fun out of campaigning? i don't know that there is anyfun campaigning? i don't know that there is any fun in campaigning, having trudged around canvassing! laughter this is a bit of a chaotic collection because it was a snap one, people not expecting it, it has taken some time to get the wheels moving. it is been sprung on everybody. even the tories who you would think that notice about it have also struggled. in some parts of the country there were local elections as well. so... but i think the other thing is, although you say it has been sprung upon people, we are so used to doing things at the last minute, it is almost like, let's see if the price of this cheap flight let's see if the price of this cheap flight goes down byjune eight, do you know what i mean, that sense of thatis you know what i mean, that sense of that is how we shop, that is how we do things, let's see what happens. that is how we choose prime ministers, potentially. that's all from me, we'll be back tomorrow with another election wrap. thank you for watching. goodbye. 25 degrees today, that was the maximum temperature in the south—east of england, it may get warmer still, as we approach the end of the week, not much rain over the weekend at all, high—pressure tending to push away week weather fronts, increasing amounts of sunshine later on, drawing up some airfrom the continent sunshine later on, drawing up some air from the continent will lift those, those temperatures. today was a lovely day across england and wales, this was shropshire, bit of cloud around, on the edge of the cloud, much more cloud around northern parts, portrush, for example, and if you shall repost of rain as well, most of the wet weather has been affecting scotland, even here, some warm sunshine as well, and the rain, if you heavy bursts, heading slowly up to the northern isles, clearer skies, following on behind, except for wales, the south—west and increasingly the channel islands, where we will see a lot more low cloud around, misty weather and hill fog. quite chilly overnight, clearer skies in rural parts of scotland, fine day on the way for most of us. that of a different look to the weather, omit south wales and the south—west, the channel islands, grey picture, and maybe a few spots of drizzle as well as mist and hill fog. moving to the south—east, east anglia, bright and sunny start, cloud coming through the midlands, keeping an eye on that, much more sunshine as we move north, the rain taking a little while to clear away from shetlands. apart from one or two showers, from scotland in the north, probably going to be dry. on the whole, a decent day for most of us, more cloud, south wales, south—west of england along the channel coasts. a bit cooler than today, inland, looking at temperatures into the high teams, low 20s, not the 25 we had in london, some cloud wandering into northern ireland, and a bit more cloud around the middle part of the week as well, still some warm sunshine breaking through the cloud, underneath the area of low pressure, so it will be a pleasant day once again. towards the end of the week, high—pressure in charge, no sign of rain, breaking up the cloud, helping to lift the temperatures as we draw in some air from the near continent, 30 degrees is not out of the question in the south—east. this is bbc news. i'm clive myrie. the headlines at 8pm: theresa may has denied a u—turn on social care, as the conservatives change a key manifesto pledge. we have not rewritten the manifesto. the principles on which we have based our social care policy remain absolutely... opposition parties have accused the prime minister of a climb—down, saying there's no mention of a cap in the tory manifesto. they haven't said what the cap is, they haven't explained to the millions of people who are desperately worried about the sort of care they're going to get in the future. this is a government in chaos and confusion. meanwhile, jeremy corbyn says he'll scrap tuition fees for students starting university in england this autumn, if he becomes prime minister. president trump has visited the holiest site injudaism, the western wall injerusalem, on a visit to hold talks with both israeli and palestinian leaders.

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