after generation poor and it stifles aspiration and it ruins children's outcomes, educational outcomes, expectations. i saw a family when i was working for gloria, it was a man and a oman, they had never worked, they had five children, i think three of the children was on disability living allowance foradhd, behavioural problems, they were getting £53,000 a year net. now, to get that sort of wage, you have got to be earning over 70k, we know that. but the worst thing for me with that was not the actual amount of money they were getting, it was their children were labelled as disabled so when they left school they were going to be having the same problems as their parents, and we are not breaking the poverty cycle, it's cruel because we are ruining people's lives. but are you telling your party? yes, of course i am, and they are listening to me. so, they're changing? you worried me then because you became all diplomatic and gave me a party line. i thought the whole point
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