has it taken you a long time to forgive the tories? because you have still been critical of what you think margaret thatcher did? iforgive her, i look back now and i will repeat the story every week, this country needed margaret thatcher in the �*70s and �*80s, the country was being held to ransom, the unions were running amok. we thought it was unfair because we suffered, we got the brunt of it but you cannot have a situation where the trade unions are going on strike every five minutes, holding the country to ransom and making everybody miserable and that is what was happening. sure. but i want to remind people you didn't convert to the tories until 2018, it wasn't that you thought, it was in the blair period, the brown period, the ed miliband period, you were working for a labour mp against people who tried to become the tory prime minister. and that is when the penny dropped. when i started working fora labour mp. let's talk about that in a second. first of all, what else about ashfield? your dad was a miner, paul.