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Transcripts For BBCNEWS Our World 20170211



mr hunt insists he does have an improvement plan, though didn't reveal it and he admits it will take time. he was talking to our health editor hugh pym. the worst monthly a&e figures in more than a decade. we actually have corridor nurses now as well. times are very desperate. images like this across bbc news. no—one would want it for members of their own family. it's been a difficult few days for the health secretary. now he's come out and acknowledged that some of what is happening in the hospitals in england is unacceptable. the bbc has shown images from royal blackburn of people waiting 13 hours, mothers and babies sitting in the corridor. aren't you embarrassed about that? it is incredibly frustrating for me. i'm doing thisjob because i want nhs care to be the safest and best in the world. that kind of care is completely unacceptable, no—one would want it for members of their own family. we featured iris sibley‘s story this week. she had to wait six months in hospital before a care—home place was available. what did mr hunt have to say to her family? i don't want to make any kind of excuses for that. it is totally unacceptable. it is terrible for mrs sibley but also very bad for the nhs... it's not the only case of its kind. no. there are no excuses. as i said, it is completely unacceptable. iris‘s son, john, said he was pleased thatjeremy hunt had recognised that his mother was let down but he had this message for the health secretary. what i would like to say tojeremy hunt is to admit, to have the guts to admit, that the system of social funding is broken. if we have to pay more, i would say tojeremy hunt, i'm prepared to pay more tax and i am sure most of the country would be as well, because our old people are worth it. and the state of social care was something i raised with mr hunt. the prime minister has been very clear. we recognise the pressure is there. we recognise there's a problem about the sustainability of the social care system and that has to be addressed and we're going to do that. there have been calls for more funding for the nhs in england, including from an american health expert who advised david cameron and jeremy hunt. he thinks the current government spending plans are set too low. i have serious doubts as to whether you can have the healthcare that is universal, not rationed, and responsive to needs at that target level. so i'm concerned. but others say it's notjust about money and getting the nhs to be more efficient is important, with new ways of working the real priority. mr hunt says change is needed on many fronts. i think it's wrong to suggest to people that these profound challenges such as we face with an ageing population are ones where there is a silver bullet that you can solve the problem overnight. we also need the help of the public, because we know that a number of the people seen in a&es could actually have their needs dealt with in another part of the nhs. new figures show cancelled operations in england were up 16% last year. further evidence that whether it's a&e, routine surgery or community care, the pressure is clear across the nhs. hugh pym, bbc news. time now for our world. rhinos are one of the world's most endangered species. but how far should we go to protect them? we are inside india's greatest national park. we are going to discover its dark secret. when we see any people at night—time, we ordered to question them. authorities are evicting villagers. there is no jury, nojudge, no questioning. evicting villagers. there is no jury, nojudge, no questioningm is alleged that there has been killing, maiming and torture. there is no question that rhinos should be protected, but at what cost? this is the inside story of the indian national park, and those killed in the name of conservation. this is one of the greatest wildlife reserves 0 n this is one of the greatest wildlife reserves on earth. the home to two thirds of the world's population of indian rhinos. have a look at this. what a magnificent animal. they looked just incredible, don't they? they look like tanks with those great folds of grey skin like armour plating. but actually, they are much more vulnerable than they look. the parkis more vulnerable than they look. the park is a huge attraction for tourists and wildlife enthusiast. david attenborough's team came here for a documentary. the duke and duchess of cambridge visited last year on theirfirst tour duchess of cambridge visited last year on their first tour of india. this is an incredible story of conservation success. there were only a handful of rhinos left when the park was set up a century ago. now, there are more than 2a00. but kaziranga's success has a dark side. this is the story they don't tell you on the glossy wildlife documentaries, and tourists like william and kate never hear about. so, what is kaziranga's untold secret? tourists have gone, the park is closed and i have been invited on a night patrol. walk in the forest in the dark is a dangerous business. what are you looking for? some animals might be sitting here, they might attack us. there is a rhino just next to a! here's looking at us. just next to a! here's looking at us. the park is huge, more than 400 kilometres square, and there are around 1200 park gods. it looks like this fellow had been in a scrap with another rhino. luckily, he was in no mood to charge us. —— guard. the cards are here to protect him from the most vicious predator there is, man. “— the most vicious predator there is, man. —— guards. and for that, they have been given extraordinary powers. when you see poachers or hunters, you start hunting them. issued them? yes. and you have orders to do that? yes. we are allowed to shoot them, whenever you see there are poachers or people doing night things, we are ordered to shoot them. this man has shot suspected poachers twice in his four yea rs suspected poachers twice in his four years as suspected poachers twice in his four yea rs as a suspected poachers twice in his four years as a guard, but has never killed anyone. he knows there are unlikely to be any consequences if he did. lawyers say the power and he has a he did. lawyers say the power and he hasa similarto he did. lawyers say the power and he has a similar to those given to armed forces policing armrest. we used to sit here all night. —— unrest. the park says these powers are essential to fight poaching. but the discretion to shoot and kill is a huge responsibility that could so easily be abused. when i meet the director of the park, he gives me the official line on what critics call the park's shoot on sight policy. is, we have to question who they are, to certify them. then we can shoot them. first we must understand who they are. who the others are in the game —— first. —— gang. how many people have been killed in the last five years?” have the figures of how many poachers have been killed. 2000— 2014, 22 poachers were killed. 50 people killed in the last three yea rs, people killed in the last three years, that is quite a lot? these are the people doing the poaching. thinking about the price of rider of porn... we have a lot of problems. around 300 plus suspected poachers live here. kaziranga is the only park in india which uses these powers. but there are plans to roll them out elsewhere. that was really interesting. what surprises me is just how many people have been killed in the park. 50 people in the last three years. that seems like a lot of people. in the communities around the park, the rising death toll has become a major issue. kaziranga is, like the rest of india, densely populated. this is one of many tribal communities that have lived in all close to the forest for centuries. they say increasing numbers of innocent villagers are being shot —— or. look at this, this is the village road. just over here is the national park full of all those wild animals. there are no fences, no signs, and ifi there are no fences, no signs, and if i was to step across and into it, there is a real danger that i could be shot. these parents believe their son mistakenly crossed into the park in 2013. he had been looking after the family's two towers. his father believed that cows straight into the park, and his son, who had severe learning difficulties, went in to try and find them. translation: my son was shot in the chest by park rangers. they also slashed his arm. i don't know whether they used an axle something else. kaziranga told the bbc that guards shot the man when he did not respond to a warning. he could barely do up his own trousers or his shoes. everyone in the area knew him because he was so disabled. i have not filed a court case. i am a poor man. i can't afford to take them on. i don't know anything about how the law works. what can i do? the park is under huge pressure to crack down on poaching. with 170,000 is under huge pressure to crack down on poaching. with170,000 visitors, kaziranga is by far the biggest tourist attraction in this province. these economic benefits make poaching a major political issue. in 2013, when the number of rhinos killed doubled to 27, politicians demanded action. the head of the park was happy to oblige. delicious, authentic cooking. i havejust park was happy to oblige. delicious, authentic cooking. i have just been reading a report britain by the former director of the park. it talks about his philosophy and how the park should be run. he says any suspect must obey all be killed, he says there must be no unauthorised entry whatsoever. killed the unwonted, he says. there is a section where he talks about the justice system. he says environmental crimes, including poaching, are far more serious than murder. the then chief put his uncompromising dock in into practice. the number of people killed started to wires. 22 in 2014, 23 the following year. —— doctrine. at the park battled against poaching with intensity, there were further casualties. a deep rushes into the local hospital. inside is a badly boy. this seven—year—old has been shotin boy. this seven—year—old has been shot in the leg. iam going i am going to die, he cries. don't worry, you will not die, it is mother says. translation: i was just coming mother says. translation: i wasjust coming back from the shop. the forest guards we re from the shop. the forest guards were shouting rhinoceros, rhinoceros. then they suddenly shot me. the path to the shop runs alongside the national park. translation: one got to him, he was crying. i rush to him. he was lying ina crying. i rush to him. he was lying in a pool of blood. what is the condition of the wound now? translation: they grafted into here, that has not worked well. just look at it. he has changed. he is to be cheerful, but he is not any more. he wa kes cheerful, but he is not any more. he wakes up in pain in the night and cries for his mother. six months on, and akash orang can still barely walk. now his brother has to carry him to school. the park says it was a terrible mistake. it paid akash orang's medical expenses and $3000 compensation. there was a huge outcry. hundreds protested that the park does not do enough to control the guards. they say the deaths are often not investigated and victims are not identified. when people come m, are not identified. when people come in, the national park claims they are poachers, so they wash their hands on the dax. they never looked back into it. this policy is dangerous, because it is creating an animosity. —— wash their hands of it. these guards are preparing an ambush in the park. they said it was too dangerous for us to join them. lee park explains the high death toll, said the poachers die in shootouts with guards. firm figures are hard to come by, but according to the reports we can find, just one pa rt to the reports we can find, just one part guard has been killed by poachers in the last 20 years. this compared to the 106 people shot dead by guards over the same period. the parkis by guards over the same period. the park is being run with utmost brutality. deezar "extrajudicial" executions. —— these are. people are being killed in these encounters, with nojudge orjury. these are not just poachers, but also local, tribal people, and the terrifying thing is that there are plans to roll out this shoot on sight policy across the whole of india. three months on, and local people are protesting outside the park headquarters, yet again. this time, the allegation is torture. they bring the victim in a push cart. the victim was picked up in the park by guards and accused of smuggling boards for a poaching gang. he says the questioning was aggressive. very aggressive. and with your hands tied here, and your legs tied here? translation: they gave me an electric shock here on my knees and here on my elbows. and here on my groin, too. they kept on hitting me. i was tied up, so every time they hit me, ifell over. the i was tied up, so every time they hit me, i fell over. the officers are said people in torturing him. —— the officer said. then he will speak the officer said. then he will speak the truth. i kept on telling them that i was not a poacher, so they kept hitting me. he says that the ordeal lasted for three hours, until finally his interrogators became convinced they have the wrong man. park officials called his village head man to pick him up. translation: what the park it was unacceptable. they had no evidence he was a poacher. how can they justify torture? if they discover that he is involved in poaching, we would bring into the park. —— if we discovered. but what they did was outrageous. kaziranga national park says it did bring the man in for questioning, but categorically denies any harm came to him, adding it never uses a electric shock during interrogation. but again, local people are saying it is evidence their rights are being trampled by the park and say activists, some of the world's biggest wildlife charities, are turning a blind eye. for example, doubly wf describes itself as a close partner of the assam forest department. they are — they have been providing equipment and sun city forest department, and survivors have repeatedly asked them to speak out against the shoot on sight policy, which they have so far failed to do. —— assam forest department. instead, they have funded ambush training for ghaz, and provided extra equipment, including nightvision goggles. but what would you use nightvision goggles for in anti—poaching? you use nightvision goggles for in anti-poaching? to monitor what is happening. and also to monitor if there is any people moving deep inside the park. it is quite likely those goggles have been used to target people who have subsequently been killed. i wonder how wwf feels about providing equipment to a park killing that many people. we have not come across any evidence that they have been used for spotting people. would they report that two? the thing is, it nobody is co mforta ble the thing is, it nobody is comfortable with killing people. what is needed is ongoing protection. the poaching has to stop. the illegal trade has to stop? yet, it needs to stop. but shouldn't wwf speak out? because obviously this is funded by individual donation. what you think of donors would feel about wwf‘s involvement with a park which is involved with killing dozens and dozens of people, maiming people, and other allegations of torturing people? as they say, we are working towards it. we wa nt they say, we are working towards it. we want the poaching to stop. the idea is to reduce it. it is notjust kaziranga, but also the enforcement agencies. i think the main thing is to work with them. and the bad news is it is notjust the anti—poaching asset that threatens local people. you can see tigers in kaziranga, but they are extremely elusive. we travelled to rajasthan. they think they have seen a tiger down by the lake, here. we are going to try and find it, now. hold on tight! go, go, go! . find it, now. hold on tight! go, go, go!.! —— god! that is a brilliant site. a brilliant view of a tiger. —— sight. you can still see it. god, that was amazing. what a majestic animal. and it is utterly unconcerned about us. 100 years ago, there were about 100,000 tigers in the world. now, there are less than 4000. but the good news is, numbers are rising. and success has brought new challenges. big wild animals like tigers and rhinos need lots of space. to accommodate them, india is planning a massive expansion of its network of national parks. it is great news for conservation, but the plans involve more than 200,000 people being moved from their homes. and once again, kaziranga is on the frontline. the park wants to double in size, and an eviction order has been issued. the problem is, the villagers do not want to move. the first elections happened in september. the police move in to clear the crowd. seems like this could be repeated across india as pa rt could be repeated across india as part attempt to follow kaziranga's example and expand. the crowd starts throwing stones. the police response first with teargas, then with live rounds. two people were killed. translation: i have no one. my husband was the only person i had. i wa nted husband was the only person i had. i wanted to take his body, but they beat me up, and would not allow me to ta ke beat me up, and would not allow me to take his body, so i had to leave it. then they brought in diggers to destroy buildings. and the national park provided a team of elephants that slowly and deliberately went through the village, knocking down every home. this is all that is left. india's wildlife reserves are sanctuary is for its most revered species. —— —— sanctuaries. but it is in danger of testing the fate of local communities. we requested interviews from india's environment minister, the minister of the environment for assa m, the minister of the environment for assam, the head of the body that ru ns assam, the head of the body that runs india's national parks, the chief forest officer from sam, runs india's national parks, the chief forest officerfrom sam, and for another interview with the head of kaziranga. none were available to speak to us. —— killing for conservation. we have heard how important it is to work with local communities. —— had of the forest office in assam. of course, endangers delic endangered species need conserving, but is kaziranga's approach to conservation putting it above a welfare of the people that we have told our best placed to protect it. hi there. we're looking at a cold and dull weekend. things could be slippy first thing on saturday. widespread frost. temperatures down to —10 in the highlands. through the day there will be a tendency for some of those showers to turn back to rain, particularly at low levels. over the hills, yes, it will continue to snow and we could see some fairly significant accumulations over the tops of the pennines, perhaps as much as 10 centimetres or more above 300 metres of elevation. a cold day, a cold wind, and as we go through saturday night we will see further showers coming in from the north sea. more significant snow from the pennines, perhaps some of those showers turning back to snow at low elevations. another cold one with widespread frost in the countryside and low temperatures in north—west scotland. another cold and cloudy day coming up for most on sunday. showers through the day and further significant accumulations possible over the pennines. temperatures 4—6 degrees, feeling cold in that easterly wind. that's your weather. a very warm welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to our viewers in north america and around the globe. our top stories: donald trump says he may rewrite his travel ban — to overcome the obstacles placed in its way by the courts. police in brazil have reached a deal to end a week—long strike that has we will then that battle, but we are other options, including 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