Baked a cake, full of Natural Ingredients . Make your own muesli . Is life too short . How much of these Ultra Processed foods do you eat, do you worry about the risks, how much do you know, or is convenience and cost absolutely key in this busy and expensive world . That is in a nutshell. In touch. Good morning, it is the nations phone in and here is the news from nick hatfield. Good morning. Prince harry is expected to give evidence at the high court this week in his long running legalfight at the high court this week in his long running legal fight over privacy. The duke of sussex was mirror Group Newspapers used illegal methods to gain information, they are contesting the claims. Russia says it has stopped a large scale ukrainian offensive in the Donetsk Region of the country. Moscow aims to have killed 250 ukrainian soldiers, kyiv has not commented on the claims. Examples say gcse and a level papers being sold online are fake. Bbc research has found students are being conned out of hundreds of pounds on social media. Ofcom says scams like this are becoming more common. And rishi sunak is expected to claim later that his plan to stop small boats crossing the channel is working but in a speech in kent he will say that more work needs to be done. Figures compiled by the bbc suggests the number of people arriving in small boats has dropped by about a quarter compared to this time last year. When i woke up this morning i was listening to the radio, saw a bit on the telly, Ultra Processed foods, what exactly are we talking about . There is increasing Scientific Research that says, not good, we are a very unhealthy country when it comes to food anyway in comparison to other parts of the continent and the world indeed, as you well know. And is this a little bit nanny state, some people are saying . If nanny were to have a massive hobnailed boots and were to tell us what to do and to ban this Ultra Processed food, what difference would it make to the nations health, i wonder . Difference would it make to the nations health, iwonder . Im just looking at some of the arguments for it, kind of Healthy Eating or arguments not against it is probably arguments not against it is probably a better way of putting it. Healthy eating can be expensive, fresh food increasingly prices, Ultra Processed foods tend to last longer as well. Buying in bulk, less likely to waste food, food waste is a massive issue. A lot of people cant afford the fuel to have the oven on four lengthy batch cooking sessions, whatever they are called. Microwave is cheaper, too. So, lets speak to carole jones, is cheaper, too. So, lets speak to carolejones, good morning to you, good to have you on, from the vale Pantry Community food store in sturminster newton. How are you this morning . I sturminster newton. 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I feel a bit faint l on a monday morning, but it is all good maybe it was the muesli i had this morning. I thought it was healthy it came out of a packet, and it was nice and sweet and it was kind of honey nut stuff, but what am i doing, and my killing myself, tell us more about this, Ultra Processed food, go on we have got a slightly different take on it. At food, go on we have got a slightly different take on it. Different take on it. At the vale pantry we different take on it. At the vale pantry we help different take on it. At the vale pantry we help families different take on it. At the vale pantry we help families that. Different take on it. At the vale | pantry we help families that are disadvantaged financially with food. Now, very often you will see somebody you think, they cant be in any type of food poverty because they are, lets say, well built. But actually they tend to lead their lives on Ultra Processed food which are very calorie rich and not particularly good for you. So, we work in a rather different way in that we supply a lot of fresh fruit and vegetables, fresh meats, fish, and vegetables, fresh meats, fish, and we are encouraging people that actually it is very easy and it is quick, you can cook something that is nutritious, you dont have to live out of a packet. But there will always be the kids that want the oven chips or their ready made pizza, but we do what we can to help people actually feel confident enough to create something from scratch with fresh ingredients, and once they do that, actually, that has quite a transformational effect. Because very often, it is notjust, it is not money, very often it is a lack of education. Is it is not money, very often it is a lack of education. It is not money, very often it is a lack of education. Is this a myth, then, lack of education. Is this a myth, then. That lack of education. Is this a myth, then. That we lack of education. Is this a myth, then, that we are lack of education. Is this a myth, then, that we are time lack of education. Is this a myth, then, that we are time poor lack of education. Is this a myth, then, that we are time poor and | lack of education. Is this a myth, l then, that we are time poor and it takes a lot of effort and knowledge, that perhaps weve lost, through the eons of time, to cook, and wejust havent got time in our busy lives, its just not practical, is that a myth . Itsjust not practical, is that a m h . , �. ,. ,. , itsjust not practical, is that a myth . Youve got to look after your bod , myth . Youve got to look after your body. Especially myth . Youve got to look after your body, especially your myth . Youve got to look after your body, especially your children, myth . Youve got to look after your body, especially your children, if i body, especially your children, if the kids are eating very Ultra Processed foods, i guarantee they will not be learning to the best of their ability at school. Very often they could be a little bit hyperactive, they are Drinking Lots of fizzy pop, bee numbers, if you can get them to sit down and eat Something Like i dont know, cheesy Broccoli Pasta Bake or a tuna pasta bake or a home made shepherds pie with fresh ingredients, it need not take very long, its all about education. So, what we do, we have got together recipe bags for our mums and dads, and step by step, every ingredient needed to cook that meal, and when theyve actually made it, they feel very good about themselves, it raises their confidence, and when we see them do that, we see people making better food choices as well. 50. That, we see people making better food choices as well. Food choices as well. So, it is better for food choices as well. So, it is better for our food choices as well. So, it is better for our brains food choices as well. So, it is better for our brains and food choices as well. So, it is better for our brains and for. Food choices as well. So, it is i better for our brains and for our lives, better indeed, if you want to give it an umbrella term, better for the soul. You know, vegan foods, many vegan foods are Ultra Processed as well. Because there are not the natural emulsifiers. As well. Because there are not the natural emulsifiers. Look at the not really chicken natural emulsifiers. Look at the not really chicken or natural emulsifiers. Look at the not really chicken or not natural emulsifiers. Look at the not really chicken or not really natural emulsifiers. Look at the not really chicken or not really beef really chicken or not really beef and so on, how do you think they are made . It isjust a case and so on, how do you think they are made . It is just a case of what can we do to help people lead a healthier, better lifestyle, and that has to include fresh food. But there is always a place for something that is owed Ultra Processed, butjust not not on every play, every mealtime. Aha, every play, every mealtime. A professor on 5 live this morning suggested that a Kids Breakfast should be nuts and yoghurt and seeds and im just thinking, you know what, i mean, you know. . Listen, 20 years ago, no one had heard of the term Ultra Processed foods. Ida. The term ultraProcessed Foods. No, and they were the term Ultra Processed foods. Iifr, and they were all slimmer. The term ultraProcessed Foods. No, and they were all slimmer. Where i the term ultraProcessed Foods. No, l and they were all slimmer. Where we . But i remember and they were all slimmer. Where we . But i remember when and they were all slimmer. Where we . But i remember when i and they were all slimmer. Where we . But i remember when i was and they were all slimmer. Where we . But i remember when i was at and they were all slimmer. Where we . But i remember when i was at school l but i remember when i was at school every week we took in all the ingredients to make a meal in cookery lessons, but now i am not sure that happens, so the kids are coming out of School Without having any idea, and they are the first ones to reach for the pot noodle we do childrens Cookery Workshops during the School Holidays and we got the children to make their own pot noodles using fresh ingredients and they love it, and so very often when mums see the kids do Something Like that, oh, i didnt know it was that easy, i think i can do that myself Going Forward. That easy, i think i can do that myself Going Forward. Lets bring in secialist myself Going Forward. Lets bring in specialist dietician myself Going Forward. Lets bring in specialist dietician priya myself Going Forward. Lets bring in specialist dietician priya tew myself Going Forward. Lets bring in specialist dietician priya tew who i specialist dietician priya tew who was on bbc ones eat well for less. Hello. What are we talking about here, because i am on a thirst, a hunger, for knowledge, i hadnt actually addressed this problem too much in my mind, i thought processed food is processed food, but according to bbc panorama, this is Ultra Processed food, what are we talking about . Sliced brown bread . I thought that was all good . Ready meals . Ice cream. You know, its not a health food, when you have an ice cream, but Ultra Processed . A group of foods made with varying and often substantial levels of industrial processing. Preservatives, artificial sweeteners, emulsifiers, which do not typically feature in home cooking. How worried should we be about all this, priya . Inhome cooking. How worried should we be about all this, priya . We be about all this, priya . Youre riaht, we be about all this, priya . Youre right. There we be about all this, priya . Youre right, there are we be about all this, priya . Youre right, there are different we be about all this, priya . Youre right, there are Different Levels we be about all this, priya . Youre right, there are Different Levels of| right, there are Different Levels of processed right, there are Different Levels of Processed Foods. Our grade right, there are Different Levels of Processed Foods. Our grade i would be minimally processed, that is our vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds, we know vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds, we know that there was our good for us and we know that there was our good for us and we we know that there was our good for us and we know that cooking from scratch more often is definitely the best way scratch more often is definitely the best way forward. And then when we io best way forward. And then when we go all best way forward. And then when we go all the best way forward. And then when we go all the way through processing, things go all the way through processing, things like 18 of tuna, that is going things like 18 of tuna, that is going to things like 18 of tuna, that is going to be processed, it doesnt necessarily mean it is something we should necessarily mean it is something we should he necessarily mean it is something we should be steering away from, it is still a should be steering away from, it is still a great should be steering away from, it is still a great ingredient to be using, still a great ingredient to be using, but with the Ultra Processed foods using, but with the Ultra Processed foods we using, but with the Ultra Processed foods we are talking cereal bars and cakes foods we are talking cereal bars and cakes and foods we are talking cereal bars and cakes and biscuits and the foods that are cakes and biscuits and the foods that are convenient, that we might rab that are convenient, that we might grab off the shelf like a ready meal, grab off the shelf like a ready meal, they are Hyper Palatable so they taste meal, they are Hyper Palatable so they taste really good, quite often they taste really good, quite often they are they taste really good, quite often they are low cost and they are very refined they are low cost and they are very refined in they are low cost and they are very refined in the way that they are processed, theyve got lots of preservatives and additives and emulsifiers and things added into them emulsifiers and things added into them that we wouldnt have if we were them that we wouldnt have if we were to them that we wouldnt have if we were to make it at home. And those are the were to make it at home. And those are the things that we dont necessarily want to be completely cutting necessarily want to be completely cutting out of our diet, but we do want cutting out of our diet, but we do want to cutting out of our diet, but we do want to he cutting out of our diet, but we do want to be reducing the intake of those want to be reducing the intake of those foods and making more things where those foods and making more things where we those foods and making more things where we can ourselves. Where we can ourselves. Hyper palatable. Where we can ourselves. Hyper palatable, there where we can ourselves. Hyper palatable, there is where we can ourselves. Hyper palatable, there is a where we can ourselves. Hyper palatable, there is a good where we can ourselves. Hyper i palatable, there is a good phrase. Where we can ourselves. Hyper palatable, there is a good phrase. I was reading on scientific paper this morning, a great thing to do on a monday morning, but it made the point that Volunteer Agreements between industry and government to the effect of improving public health, so this is another argument of the nanny state having increasingly bigger hobnail boots on that, and it is a very, very important debate to be had on that, but things are bad, we are unhealthy because of all this stuff, that is what the scientists are telling us. What are our callers going to say. Good morning to you, anne, anne, and sandra, were talking about the central belt, we cant even get the central belt, we cant even get the central belt, we cant even get the central belt on any more, you know what i mean, central scotland, we dont have a great diet, anne, there . ~ dont have a great diet, anne, there . ,. ~. , there . No, and i think it really comes down there . No, and i think it really comes down to there . No, and i think it really comes down to the there . No, and i think it really comes down to the cost there . No, and i think it really comes down to the cost of comes down to the cost of everything, for fresh food and fresh meat everything, for fresh food and fresh meat and everything, for fresh food and fresh meat and fresh fruit and everything, it is really meat and fresh fruit and everything, it is really supposed to be good for you, people like myself really cannot you, people like myself really cannot afford to go out and buy all that, cannot afford to go out and buy all that, it cannot afford to go out and buy all that, it is cannot afford to go out and buy all that, it is all the Processed Foods and the that, it is all the Processed Foods and the cheap for the cheap crisps and the cheap for the cheap crisps and things and the cheap for the cheap crisps and things like that which are really and things like that which are really bad which are so cheap, we buy that really bad which are so cheap, we buy that more. Really bad which are so cheap, we buy that more buy that more. What do you see around you buy that more. What do