about managing, known as the jams. the people who are in work but still struggle to make ends meet, to pay those bills at the end of the week. how will they make up their minds how to vote? we've come to the suburbs of south london to find out. well, it's fish and chips for the latest of my for the latest of my election takeaways. we are in the south suburbs of london with a group of voters who are going to tell us how they are making up their minds who to back the election. who to back at the election. just to start us off, what issues in this area, before we talk about the country, what things all thinking about when you think of who to vote for? when you are concerned about this area, what are the things that are bothering you, making you make up your minds? one of the things i'm worried about is the school dinners. we've had the milk taken and now they are going to take the school meals and something about the breakfast. my child has breakfast before she goes to school. how old is your daughter? she's 12 now. and she gets a free school lunch? yes, her lunch and dinners. so if they take that away... i think for me it has to be health care. if we looking at most of the services we get at the moment, take away some of the gps, it was easy to get an appointment to go to the gp. ring up in the morning, you know when you want to go and see them. now, it's 'what's wrong with you?‘ 0k, callback at 8am. you ring back at 8am, you can't get through. and when you do get through, you get an appointment at 1030 but you've got to go to work. there's no way round it. 0r you've missed it. it's a lot harder now to see a gp. we are overstretching accident in emergencies. so having to take myself up to a & e which could be looked at by my gp. interesting. i work in a school, and i have concerns about the school dinners which we could come to later on. but i also coach at a scheme in stoke newington. one of the biggest things locally is the knife epidemic which is very worrying. whichever party comes in, wins, has to have something steel cast in place to combat that because it's a problem. i work a lot with young children, an academy school in south london, it's a real problem. my head spend 60% of her time dealing with social media issues my head spends 60% of her time dealing with social media issues which then spill over into the classrooms, the playground, into the street, so it's an issue. social media, people losing their temper with each other, picking fights? it is where it starts. online bullying. when i was at school, many years ago, the bullying started at nine and finished at three. nowadays, with social media, it's 2a—7. it doesn't stop. it gets worse and worse. the generation that is coming through lives their lives through a screen, through social media. are you watching the election much at the moment? bits and pieces. promises that they never follow through with. u—turns. promises that they never follow through with. a bit sceptical? yes. do you tune in? i do. i listened keenly because i like to hold people accountable, so i will listen to what you've got to see. that's fine. when the time comes, if you implement those policies and then if you don't, i've got a starting point to say well, you did say this in the beginning. the lib dems with the tuition fees cuts. that upset me even though i was past the student stage, i was fortunate enough to get through before this happened, i thought it was very deceitful of them to make such a policy and then do such a u—turn on it. i think, day by day, it gathers momentum. i think today use the theresa may, for the first time, start to look a little bit under pressure. also, a couple of weeks back, you had diane abbott did that radio interview... she wasjust... i found it embarrassing listening to that, you know. you all said yes! she got her figure so wrong. she got her figures so wrong. did it tell you anything did you just think, somebody has had a bad day? there is no concrete foundation to what they are saying. they are coming in with these wonderful ideas, hooks to get people engaged but in actual fact, they have not thought it through. i looked today and they are talking about tuition fees. how on earth are they going to pay for this? more students than ever wanting people to go to university. blair in 1997 wanted 50% of students to go to university. way too many, that people are going. how are they going to afford this? where is it going to come out from? i want to start the wider conversation a bit byjust asking a little bit about you. if you had to describe how you were, how you were doing in your family, does it feel like it's pretty easy at the moment? things are good, we are in work. things are comfortable, you are shaking your head? struggling. every single month, you are constantly thinking can i afford £20 on my oyster card, £10 on my oyster card if you want to go out for the evening. can i afford this? even when you do the weekly shopping, it comes up to over £100 you are thinking, can something give? you are always plate—spinning. that's what i call it. simple as that. you constantly got multiple financial plates on the go and you are just balancing. what do you do, alex? i'm a teacher. you're a teacher? you're on not a bad salary? in london, no. i get high in the six at night, having got up at 413 morning. ——i at night, having got up at 413 morning. —— i get home at six o'clock at night. is it tough times, daniel? i work for the local government. you would say it was a good salary, and a single mum. childcare costs are joke. i'm lucky that i'm coming back out of that. if i was thinking about having another child at any time... the childcare costs alone because there three times a mortgage price almost. i think the problem with salaries of local government, teachers, they haven't stayed in the bracket of the increase of what the cost of living has. what about for you? and struggling every year -- i am struggling every year. i have three children. it's with the same for me at the end of the year. you have to take out a loan, an overdraft. what do you do? i can't really give my kids 100%. i have to struggle to make them happy. you had to start telling stories, rosy stories. is that for everyday things? it they want something, and i don't have the money, i have to tell the next week. had you heard this phrase, just about managing? yes. next week. had you heard this phrase, just about managing? yesm that you? yes. i feel blessed sometimes though because i wouldn't be able to afford my house now. we are managing, and if some people are worrying about how to feed their children, food banks, it makes you think well, there is a whole world is under this that struggling even more. we chose you because you are alljams. it's more. we chose you because you are all jams. it's not just more. we chose you because you are alljams. it's notjust coincidence. you become more alljams. it's notjust coincidence. you become more resource alljams. it's notjust coincidence. you become more resource baubles the big you want to go to the football, the cinema or music or the theatre, you think yourself, how can i do it on the budget? you might think, can i get half price tickets. who is doing all right? you! mps! you are only jealous because i doing all right? you! mps! you are onlyjealous because i put a pickled onion! we have had no pay rises that mps have. all the scandals, the public scandals. it's at the top.|j asked you about that phrase, jams. if you know you for certain who is, don't say. do you know who earns more? who said that phrase? churchill. jeremy corbyn. if it was himi churchill. jeremy corbyn. if it was him i would be pleased. theresa may. theresa may. isn't that interesting. she said that these were the people she wanted to help. really? who does she wanted to help. really? who does she think they are? talk is cheap, she'll sit round this dinner table with her cronies and they will tell you that they are just about managing with their two houses in their 160 grand cars that we are paying for! why are they taking the school dinners away then? that's contradicting yourself there, isn't it? it seems like a race to the bottom in so many areas. i got a friend who is an super taxi driver. i got a friend who is an uber taxi driver. the tax system discourages people from working because the more you work, the more they tax. when i sit down in my house, some people are ready to work but when you think about it, the tax doesn't feel fair. it doesn't feel fair. they should be in courage in people to work. if you wa nt in courage in people to work. if you want people to work, relax the tax. if you are trying to balance the books each month, do the right thing, working 55—60 hours per week, all of a sudden, you are worse off. it doesn't make sense. it's like quicksand. the more you try, the harder it is to make ends meet. you hearing anything from any of the leaders that makes you think, they kind of get it. —— are you hearing anything from any of the leaders?|j think anything from any of the leaders?” think the nationalisation of railways by jeremy think the nationalisation of railways byjeremy corbyn is something good. every year, the fares have been going up, i can't get a seat and sometimes you couldn't even get on your train, in my head i used to think, ijust want this nationalised, and then it got privatised and it has gone down since. he reminds me of a normal person. he would sit around this table with us. i couldn't see myself eating fish and chips with theresa may but i could withjeremy corbyn. i could say to him, here is my spreadsheet. i would ask him how he could help me. i think his demeanour tells me that he would ask us how we wa nted tells me that he would ask us how we wanted things to be, so if labour came back in, i think for a start doing a might start asking a bit more. i don't think he has leadership credentials. i can't put my finger on it. don't you admire his honesty though? he is on his. he lives by a lot of the things he believes in. whether he's a good leader is another matter, but he lives by what he believes. is that the rights... is that the test you set for a prime minister? it needs to be somebody you can relate to, warm up to and believe what they are selling you. it's like a sales pitch, who are you going to go for? i believe him but i felt let down by brexit, i felt like he i believe him but i felt let down by brexit, ifelt like he hid, he disappeared. what have you heard from corbyn so far under the nationalisation of the railways? jewish and fees. except —— tuition fees, although it seemed unbelievable by september that you could get through it. that would be good. i got three children, three girls. they all want to go to college. the fees are so high that are not in a position that i could help them as much as i want to. do you think he can do it?” help them as much as i want to. do you think he can do it? i hope so. it's like i say, you vote for them and you can never tell.” it's like i say, you vote for them and you can never tell. i think mathematically it is possible my only problem is that in order to do that, does that mean that the student loans are going to go up so that cost of paying it back is going to go up? it's taken me a while to pay that back, so i'm wondering if you're going to subsidise in one area, if you reduce somewhere then something else has to increase.” would like for the nhs to get back to normal, giving nurses a chance. pagein to normal, giving nurses a chance. page in the nhs? yes. nurses are not being appreciated. they need a pay rise? yes. i think the police, with the climate, we need more police. who is more honest with you? it's looking likejeremy who is more honest with you? it's looking like jeremy to who is more honest with you? it's looking likejeremy to be honest. i won't lie, i liked theresa may at first, in terms of the iron fist of margaret thatcher although she destroyed everything... i tend to gear towards strong people and i did like teresa at first, but there are too many things that make me think, you called this election, why did you called this election, why did you do that? what about promises that the tories have made to help you out? everything she says puts me off further and further. they are going through the best for britain with the negotiations brexit, but we don't know. she's been singing the immigration song for many years. nothing personally? capping the price of energy? we've heard that before. we've been hearing that for yea rs. before. we've been hearing that for years. petrol is going to be capped... it never does. i like the idea, obviously. it sounds good but is it going to happen? that's one of the more obvious points you can rule out. anyone with half a brain cell would know that we're talking about private companies. since when did anything work telling private companies what to do. it's never worked. the rail system, it hasn't worked. the rail system, it hasn't worked. the rail system, it hasn't worked. the government have tried and tried and tried to intervene but they are private company so they've failed. has anybody not voted labour? i wish i had. i've failed. has anybody not voted labour? iwish i had. i've always voted labour. corbyn is not really for me, massively. it's the policies, uncle between the two. we vote every four years, we should be voting every 14 years, by the time we look at education again, we have to get the people out, the policy in, by the time you're done, the four years is up. you vote for cameron, you don't like corbyn. you don't mind him? and thinking of voting labour. the change of policies. how much will they try and pull over people's eyes. what will tomorrow's story he ? pull over people's eyes. what will tomorrow's story be? they keep changing ona tomorrow's story be? they keep changing on a daily basis. who thingsjeremy changing on a daily basis. who things jeremy corbyn changing on a daily basis. who thingsjeremy corbyn will be our next prime minister? i'd like to hope... nobody said yes. i think it will be closer than people think. i'll bet you this pickled onion.” hope we go into a coalition with labour leading. kettings theresa may will win? i think she will win. i think she will i don't want her to though. i think she will, i don't want her to though. when theresa may came in, i thought girl power. i thought she was on the money, but for me now, it's a trust issue. she's done a lot of backtracking. can i trust the? she's lied about the snap election. then she turns around, can you trust someone she turns around, can you trust someone like that? you need someone around you to advise you before you speak? are they sitting down before they make these announcements? what's the general thinking? that is what i would like to know. it is enough to change your mind?” what i would like to know. it is enough to change your mind? i was sitting on the fence, but now i think i know exactly what i'm going to do. it is another bad story would you change your mind again?” to do. it is another bad story would you change your mind again? i was genuinely sitting on the fence for a while, but now i'm 100% aware of what i'm going to do. which is? i'm not telling. what words would you apply to theresa may?” not telling. what words would you apply to theresa may? i don't think she's stable. flaky. rattled! and trustworthy. professional. untrustworthy. when i lookjohn major, everyone slated him. but! when i lookjohn major, everyone slated him. but i think theresa may's the company 's best interest that heart. —— countries best interests at heart. i think she has been found out though. i see your point though, i've never looked at it like before. she's not particularly flash. do you mean that asa particularly flash. do you mean that as a compliment? not a big flashy pr machine. not like borisjohnson. if he was there, forget it. not for me. i think she's straight down the line. ithink i think she's straight down the line. i think she knows what she wants. and for me, that's going a long way. i worked in the police when she was home secretary, and she just used to push things through. she was stick to things and that scares me. will that make her rigour tough that i shed a? no. it may be good for brexit, but in other aspects, she could be a bit softer, things like the nhs, see the bigger picture rather thanjust things like the nhs, see the bigger picture rather than just her things like the nhs, see the bigger picture rather thanjust her road map for success. one last question. a lot of you likejeremy corbyn. is there anything that makes you worry about him? not really. the only grey area with him and the labour party is they just area with him and the labour party is theyjust have to get their maths right. i'm not talking about the diane abbott thing, i'm talking about in general. if you are going to see what you are going to say then you need to demonstrate where this will come from and how you think you will get this back. you need to know the numbers? that's all it is. will he get the brexit deal right for us if he goes into power? why might he not? i felt like he disappeared when it was kicking off he disappeared. there was nothing to see that he was pitting his backing to it. he wasn't there for me. will theresa may be goods in most brexit negotiations? she's doing her best but she's stubborn. one or two words, not sentences. maverick. friendly. honest. genuine. trusting. perfect! gut feeling. that's what you feel good about. very good. thank you all very much for being here. time to finish off the pickled onion. that's all from the show. we've got our weather watchers view of hampstead heath here. we've got our weather watcher‘s view of hampstead heath here. we've had some pretty impressive pictures of torrential downpours like this photo from leeds. some impressive lightning. frequent lightning through lancashire into west yorkshire. the thunderstorms with northward. we could see some flash flooding, some hail with gusty winds. treacherous driving conditions do take care. southern scotland, we could see some thunderstorms pushing into the glasgow area, affecting the fa cup hampden park. —— at hampden park. a warm and humid feel to things. slightly cooler in western wales and in the far south. temperatures likely to reach 20 celsius. temperatures falling away a little bit as we head into this early part of the evening for the fa cup final. it should stay dry. thunderstorms across the north rattling on. it will fizzle out overnight with some cloud. heavy in scotland. further south, is going to be fine and dry with some clear spells. not as warm and muggy as it has been. to the south of the country, we will see an area of showers and thunderstorms working their way northwards. temperature wise, mid 20s possibly across the south—east with a cooler, fresher feel. interbank holiday monday, further and read downpours moving northwards. —— further heavy downpours. feeling cooler and fresher. this is bbc news. the headlines at 3pm: british airways cancels all flights at heathrow and gatwick until at least 6pm this evening, after a global computer system failure. it's thought that thousands of passengers are affected at heathrow, a queue is now stretching outside terminal five due to the computer problems. currently as you can see behind me, there is a huge queue waiting for any information. my main concern now is that i don't want my 80—year—old grandma spending the night on the heathrow floor. the terror threat level in the uk, which was increased to the highest status of 'critical‘ following the manchester bombing, has been reduced to 'severe'. there will be more arrests and searches, but this greater clarity and progress has led jtac, the independent body that assesses threat, to come to the conclusion that the threat is no longer imminent. police and army bomb disposal experts have been evacuating an area of moss side as part of an ongoing search linked to the