investigators are telling us is that they have spoken to people and have found this relaxed attitude. and in the meantime, as you said, so many seizures in vietnam or in thailand. and just last year, or in 2019, after the outbreak of the pandemic, there have been reports that in the greater mekong region or lower mekong region, there has been selling of all this wildlife products — in one report, they found 80,000 different wildlife products in more than 1,000 outlets. and also in the meantime, there have been major seizures in africa. investigators tell me they were destined for southeast asia, the regular destination hotspots. navin, what are authorities doing about this, given the scale of the problem you've described?