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BBCNEWS Newsday June 14, 2017

We are united in our shock. We are united in our anguish. We are united in our shock. We are united in ouranguish. An we are united in our shock. We are united in our anguish. An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us. Welcome to this Special Edition of Bbc World News as firefighters in west london are still at the scene of a horrendous fire that has killed at least 12 people. The blaze at the 2a storey tower block began in the early hours of wednesday morning. Many people are still missing and the police have warned the number of dead is expected to rise significantly. Our special coverage begins with this report from our uk home editor, mark easton. Oh my god, theyre screaming it is a tragedy that plays to our darkest fears. There was smoke everywhere, literally everywhere. There was people downstairs, bits of the block, cladding, falling off the block. That was on fire. Screaming. People screaming. It wasjust people jumping out, literally. And putting sheets down to try to get out of the building. Windows exploding, big, massive pieces of debris falling to the floor. We came here, Saw People Jumping Off. People calling. You Saw People Jumping Off . Yeah. People had jumped off because they had no other option to. How high up . The top floor. I saw someone jump. Someone was on fire and they jumped too. He didnt make it. Some people have picked up their kids and threw them out for the police to pick them up because there was no other way out of the building. The blaze tore through the 2a Storey Council Block in this part of North Kensington. On the seventh floor, this family were led to safety. There was smoke everywhere, people screaming. The neighbours were coming out. There was a fireman there going, get out, get out. Iran back injust my boxer shorts, put my Dressing Gown on, grabbed the little girl, put her under my Dressing Gown to cover her face from the smoke, got my girlfriend up. With dawn, came grim, if expected, news that lives had been lost. Many people, numb with shock, frantically searched to find missing friends and relatives. This womans sister and 12 year old nephew were unaccounted for. My sister with her son, yeah. How old was he . He is 12 years old. That is why i am scared. A 12 year old boy . As well as the smoke and the thick smell in the air, a tension, numb shock, hangs over this area. In the 21st century, in a country with some of the strictest Fire Regulations in the world, a desperate tragedy like this just should not happen. What floor are you on . huh . seven, yeah . Well into the morning, the crowds watching the horror unfold in front of them reported seeing people still trapped in the block. I saw somebody there. Waving, in white. In a white shirt . White shirt, yeah. A man was eventually brought out by the Emergency Services at noon. This off duty nurse helped tend to some of the injured rescued from the building. I have seen some things, but today. I cant even describe it. There are mothers that have come out and lost their children. There are firefighters that have come out injured. We dont know if they are even going to come out safe. People have lost their homes, children have seen things, people jumping out the window. We just need to rebuild as a community now. This is a neighbourhood that feels ignored. Theres anger on the streets. People demanding answers. This is your building, isnt it . We have a number of high rise buildings here and of course in other parts of london. They do have to meet stringent safety and fire safety standards, and in a refurbishment, there will be a thorough inspection by the fire authorities, so. Doesnt appear to have worked, though, does it . It clearly hasnt worked, and we will need to get the bottom of what has gone wrong. The streets of North Kensington are littered with ashes. The charred homework of a school child blown from grenfell tower. This neighbourhood is also shrouded with grief from a tragedy that will not pass for a long time. Mark easton, bbc news, North Kensington. Live now to the scene. Our reporter, sarah corker, is there. We spoke a while ago and you can still see flames. It is almost 23 hours on. Just behind me you can still see the Black Smouldering Wreck that was grenfell tower. Firefighters are still working. Throughout the day they have checked the building and said it is not at risk of collapse. But it will still bea risk of collapse. But it will still be a very long recovery operation. The questions now for investigators is what caused this fire. That is still unknown. The building was supposed to work in a way that individual flats, when they do get satellite, it is supposed to contain it. They did not happen. Set alight. Why did the fire spread so quickly . Eyewitnesses said the whole building went ablaze in 15 minutes. There was a project last year that has somehow compromised the safety of the building, that is one line of investigation. Some say the material on the outside set the whole building on fire. It is reminiscent of this time yesterday. Just about an hour away from the fire that began and it took hold. There is clearly shock among the People Living there. How are people feeling now . Yeah. Well, the Community Response really has been quite overwhelming. After the horror of last night, hundreds are now homeless. Some are still unaccounted for. Friends and family are anxiously waiting for news of their loved ones. Many of them are now bedding down for the night in Evacuation Centres across the burrough. Three because of the day, people, neighbours, residents, they have come out to give food and water and quotes and anything they can do. In the past few hours we have been here, we have seen people donating warm food, pizza, cakes. There is a sense this Diverse Community is pulling together at a time of need. We do know that firefighters are still battling the blaze in the upperfloors of still battling the blaze in the upper floors of the grenfell tower. Do we know how many people are there doing that at the moment . Do we know how many people are there doing that at the moment7m do we know how many people are there doing that at the moment . It is difficult to tell at the moment. We are quite far away from the tower block. This cordon is in place for safety reasons. Fire crews have come in and out as the evening has gone on. We havejust seen in and out as the evening has gone on. We have just seen a in and out as the evening has gone on. We havejust seen a Police Vehicle come with around 10 12 officers getting out. They are here officers getting out. They are here of course at the cordon to reassure the public but also to make sure that people are not getting too close to the building. It is likely they will be here through the course of the evening. Thank you. Sarah corker reporting live from west london. I was in the area shortly after the fire took hold and it really was like nothing i have ever seen before. Plumes of smoke in the air covering west london. A truly shocking thing to happen. That shock has filtered through to date. The building had recently been refurbished. There are many questions being asked how this happened. The British Government has ordered a check on fires with, work. What could this mean for Safety Measures and high rise buildings around the . Like many cities around the world, london has seen the rise of the skyscraper. Homes and offices, perched high above street level, with a host of safety rules designed to resist fire. But eight years ago, a blaze at this tower block in south london killed six people. Southwark council was fined for breaching Fire Regulations. And there are plenty of expert voices today saying that the lessons of what happened here at Lakanal House have not been learned. The fire in west london last night, this morning, has demonstrated that they are still at risk in their own homes. These fires shouldnt be happening in 21st century london. Weve got the ability to stop them from happening, and when fires to break out, to restrict them to small areas of flats or buildings. One key question in the spotlight today is about the design of tower blocks and how theyre meant to keep people safe in case a fire breaks out. Now normally, a fire hose can only reach about 15 metres. Grenfell tower stands 67 metres high. In america, they rely on whats called active safety. Sprinklers fight fires in every room, but that can be expensive. The basic principle here, until recently, has been passive safety, designing the building to confine any blaze to a single room. Clearly, thats failed. Investigators will want to know why. Another focus will be on the cladding fitted to the outside of the building, panels to improve insulation and the look of older buildings like grenfell tower. But dozens of fires have been linked to cladding around the world. Two years ago, a skyscraper in dubai caught fire and the cladding was blamed. New rules there have tightened up on the kind of materials that can be used. Investigators here will explore what role the cladding might have played. In the uk, it has to be, of what we call, of limited combustibility. Im sure thats going to be questioned now after this fire. What exactly that means and what these types of Cladding Systems are adding to the fire load on the building. It was after the Second World War that councils answered the Housing Crisis by moving away from old terraced homes into new high rise tower blocks. But their safety from fire depends on good design and careful maintenance. The london mayor says People Living in tower blocks will now need to be reassured, and fire professionals are shocked by how this blaze spread. Literally every single floor was on fire, internally. We dont usually see that. You see one floor, two floors, and then a hopping from floor to floor, maybe, over a period of time. But you would not normally see an entire facade on fire and then all of the interior on fire at the same time. So thats whats very unusual. So the fire overcame whatever safety features were in place. Last year, the government promised a review into fire safety in tower blocks, but then delayed it. This disaster now makes that work a priority. David shukman, bbc news. We can speak now to Robert Solomon from the Us National Fire Protection association. Hejoins me via webcam from pembroke, massachusetts. Welcome to the programme. Firstly, what is your assessment of what you have seen unfold here in west london . Surprise, shock, sadness for the fatalities we are hearing about already. Your other reporters said the speed of which the fire seems to go the speed of which the fire seems to 9 up the speed of which the fire seems to go up the side of the building is very surprising and very shocking to us. We know there are many questions to be answered as an investigation gets under way. What do you think in your experience the key questions will be they will want to find out . I think if you approach it, that is all i can do, conducting an investigation, as we have done in the past on significant fires, predominantly in the us, we start to look at everything. We look at building construction. Is It Fire Resistive construction . What about the interiorfinishes . Resistive construction . What about the Interior Finishes . What Resistive Construction . What about the interiorfinishes . What about the interiorfinishes . What about the design of the exit stairs in the building . Stamp pipe systems, you call them damp pipe systems. That is all on the table. A fire this significant, you really need to look at everything in the Building Design and recent renovations. You also have to look at inspection records. Were being tested, maintained . We re were being tested, maintained . Were systems. Many people think it is the fire service, the building department, but it is the owner that has to do this. All of those things will be on the table. What we do know is the fire began in the middle pa rt know is the fire began in the middle part of this 2a storey block. In 15 minutes it took hold of the entire facade of the building. How common is that . Does that give us a clue as to how it started . It does not give us to how it started . It does not give usa to how it started . It does not give us a clue as to what started it. We have seen similarfire us a clue as to what started it. We have seen similar Fire Scenarios in the middle east. One of your reporters talked about the new years eve fire in dubai. That was similar. Afire years eve fire in dubai. That was similar. A fire started on a lower level and it did involve the exteriorfacade, racing level and it did involve the exterior facade, racing up level and it did involve the exteriorfacade, racing up the level and it did involve the exterior facade, racing up the side of the building. In that circumstance, it is our understanding a Test Protocol we utilise in the us had not been applied to those particular panels in the fire in dubai. In the us, us codes have a specific test for facade designs, cladding designs, incorporating combustible materials. The whole purpose of that test is to make sure that the material does not ignite, burn, but if it does start to burn, it can only do it in a slow way. We would not expect it, in other words, a material that would move up the building within 30 minutes, that material would be highly unlikely to have passed the us test we apply to those types of facade systems. We appreciate your time, robert. Thank you. And if you want to find out more about the fire then i do want to point you in the direction of our special live page where youll find the latest news updates and information from Emergency Services as well as tweets and social media posts from on the ground. Youll find that at bbc. Com news lets take a look at some of the days other news the head of the Us Federal Reserve bank has raised American Interest rates by 0. 25 . Per cent. The Benchmark Rate will now be between one and one and a quarter per cent. Well have more on that in Asia Business report in a few minutes time. President trump is being investigated for possible Obstruction Of Justice thats according to the washington post. The move by special Counsel Robert Mueller to investigate the president s conduct marks a major Turning Point in the fbi investigation into alleged russia interference in the us election. Police in california say three people have been killed in a shooting at a ups parcels depot in san francisco. The gunman, who was dressed in a company uniform, also died. Police said he shot himself when they approached him. Two other people were wounded. Now to our other major story. A senior politician has been critically injured in a gun attack in the us state of virgina. Steve scalise, whos a whip in the house of representatives, was one of five people shot as they practised for a Charity Baseball game. The gunman died after police returned fire. Laura bicker has sent this report from virginia. It was a regular morning Baseball Practice the gunmen tried to turn into a killing field. The horror was ca ptu red into a killing field. The horror was captured on camera by a dog walker. The shots rang out for several minutes, with few pauses. If that quy minutes, with few pauses. If that guy ok . One victim was Steve Scalise. His colleagues could not reach him as the firing continued. We could see Steve Scalise out in the field. He dragged himself there from second base, about ten or 15 yards into the field do is to be further away from the gunmen. But he was motionless out there so i to him but there were still shots going overhead from both sides and, so, finally when we heard that the shooter was down i just finally when we heard that the shooter was down ijust ran low out to steve and started putting pressure on the wounds. The gunmen we re pressure on the wounds. The gunmen were 66 year old James Hodgkinson from illinois. He had antirepublican and anti donald trump faced social media posts. He died in hospital after being shot by police. Survivors say wouldve a massacre without their help. They are coming to terms with having to dodge bullets on a day for batting practice. The emotional shock of seeing your friends shot while you are helpless. You have a baseball bat, they have a rifle. You are defenceless. The shooting has shaken washington. Both sides of the political aisle seemed shocked. When you go to Baseball Practice for a game for charity and you have to dodge wallets and you watch your collea g u es dodge wallets and you watch your colleagues lay in the field, yeah, it is my breaking point. This has to stop. Hate have to stop. We are united in our shock and anguish. An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us. President donald trump raised all those who served in congress. We may have our differences but we do well in times like these, to remember that eve ryo ne like these, to remember that everyone who served in our Nations Capital is here because, above all, they

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