of measure this, james, but you can kind of feel it. it seems like he's kind of walking a couple of inches taller at the moment. i've noticed that for the last couple of months, even before the difficulties that the prime minister's got into. so in that sense, i thought it was a fascinating conversation and it does give you some sense of how the leaders and their parties feel about themselves at the moment. but the most striking thing, given the political mood at the moment, is how the prime minister manages tojust keep on going. well, chris made the point, of course, that we've had the labour and conservative conferences, but it's far from over, right? i mean, it's the snp next, we've got the tuc. it's an obvious question, i suppose, james, but what is the overall expectation about how the tone of the snp conference is going to be? well, i think it's going to be quite an interesting conference because it happens on the eve of the supreme court considering whether or not a referendum can be held in scotland, whether a bill can be passed in the scottish parliament, authorising a referendum to be held on independence.