Transcripts For BBCNEWS Monday In Parliament 20170117 : comp

Transcripts For BBCNEWS Monday In Parliament 20170117



our look at the day at westminster. the headlines: mps from across the commons call for action to streamline the health service and social care in england. the local government agree they need help. the health service agrees they need help. but the health service and local government blame each other. warnings that a skills shortage in the housing industry is leading to poor quality buildings. the pressure that the trades have had up to it means we have substandard building going on. and, in the lords, the government gives assurances workers' rights won't be damaged by brexit. but first, the government's been warned by mps on all sides of the house of the need for better communication between the health service in england and social care. conservative backbenchers were among those who told ministers about hospital beds being taken up and constituents finding themselves caught between health and social care providers, neither of which were able to help. local government association have been clear that the money raised through increasing the social care precept will not be nearly enough to address the £2.6 billion gap facing adult social care by 2020. instead of exacerbating the existing postcode lottery, will the secretary of state not commit to additional ring—fenced resources into social care, to tackle this crisis? mr speaker, in the last spending review, government allocated an additional 5.5 billion a year till 2020. to adult social care and just a few weeks ago, i announced additional help of £900 million over the next two years. now, local councils do have to play a role in this. i note that in sunderland the average council tax bill is down in real terms since 2010. and in sunderland, if local councillors want to allocate more, they can do that. for many of my constituents, the fundamental problem in all too many cases is that we still we still separate health care funding and social care funding. it makes no sense. can i, therefore, urge the secretary of state to speed up the integration of health and social care provision, so that we can deal with patients' needs in the round and put those first, as opposed to budgetary arguments. between 2010 and 2020, around £40 million will have been taken out the adult social care budget in hull. and you could see the effect of that just this weekend, when you can see what is happening in our local nhs hospitals. will the minister think again and make sure that the problems the local authorities are facing are addressed by central government ring—fenced money? mr speaker, i am sure the honourable lady would welcome the announcement that was made a few weeks ago, which is trying to recognise those pressures she identifies. that is additional funding. that is on top of the 5.5 billion. £900 million over the next two years. but what she rightly highlights is that this is a situation we need to keep looking at to see what more can be done. most members will have had in their constituency surgeries, somebody who desperately needs help. the local government agree they need help. the health service agrees they need help. but the health service and local government blame each other and it becomes a complete mess. would it not be a good idea, on a cross—party basis, to look at a new model for social care? mr speaker, my honourable friend is right, firstly, to point that out. i have seen many situations like that in my own constituency. he also highlights the need for all of us to talk more about this issue and see what we can do working together. having spent a day with carers just before christmas, seeing what amazing work they do, they feel frustrated because they are constantly under financial pressure. will the minister look at what can be done for increasing funding to social care in addition to what we already done. and make sure that is subject to a cast—iron ring fence, to ensure the money goes where it is needed most. mr speaker, i can assure my honourable friend that we will continue to look at the resources applied to adult social care, both from local councils and from central government, to make sure they are adequate. also, we will continue to push the case for reform, to also make sure all councils realise there is more more that can be done besides more funding. the house of commons library figures show that, in the period from november 2013 to november 2016, instances of bed blocking where social care was solely responsible increased by 89%. in the 12 months to november 2016, bed blocking has increased by 39%. does the minister recognise that the precept package brought forward by the government in december is insufficient to solve the crisis in our social care system and is putting further pressure on our already—stretched nhs? mr speaker, the minister recognises is that the additional funding announced in december will make a significant difference. there is £2110 million additional coming in from the new homes bonus repurposing. there is an additional £600 million — it is new money. an additional £600 million coming in from the precept changes. when it comes to using that money, we all want to see a reduction in delayed transfers of care. she will be aware of big differences between local councils in delayed transfers of care and i think some councils can certainly learn from others. the communities secretary, sajid javid. the author of a report into the construction industry says a shortage of skills is leading to sub—standard building. mark farmer was one of the witnesses giving evidence to mps on the communities and local government committee about how to build more homes. he said the industry was going to have to do more with less — because of a shrinking workforce. so, what could the government do? mark farmer said it was partly skills and training, but the industry needed to innovate. what we have in construction is an ageing workforce. one of the most advanced, in terms of age, of all the business sectors in the united kingdom. what that suggests, based on census data and looking at the level of new entry into the industry, is that we are going to lose 20—25% of our workforce over the next decade. with brexit overlaid on that, whether it is a hard or soft brexit — there are variations on the theme — but it is undoubtedly going to add more pressure to that. i could easily see a situation where we are moving towards a situation where about one—third of our workforce is lost over the next decade or so. so, what could the government do? it is massively important that we get into schools earlier, so we can start to influence people's thinking. i am talking about 10—11 years old. not 16-18. we need to change their perception of the construction industry. my view is that you have to do the innovation piece first to profile what skills we need in the future. because i think we have a modern industry, and a more productive industry. it is a combination of traditional site—based skills — artisan, biblicalskills, call them what you want — alongside more and approaches. maybe factory—based, maybe hybrid. certainly, digitally enabled. then, you stand more chance of attracting the youngsters. the youngsters are wanting something which is a bit more around the 21st—century, not from the dark ages. unfortunately, parts of our industry still have that stigma attached to them, rightly or wrongly. we need to move the dial in order to give a different offer to the youngsters. by doing that, not only are we increasing the productivity, by being able to produce more with less, which is an absolute certainty that we are going to have to do. you also increase the chance of bringing new entrants into the industry because it is more attractive to them in terms of the mode of working. not necessarily on cold, wet building sites. they have the ability to work, even if they are going to be a bricklayer or a carpenter, you can do that in a factory. he was asked what effect brexit had had on the industry. obviously, there is an effect on currency. a lot of european union nationals repatriate a lot of their earnings back home, back to their families in their home countries. over the last few months, the value of that has been a lot less and that is starting to influence decision—making, with regard to people's plans. there is a lot of ways in which brexit can impact on the construction industry. in london, a0—50% of the workforce is migrant labour. not necessarily european union, but migrant labour. nationally, it is somewhere between 10—15%. attention was then turned to the amount of houses which will need to be built. we know that we have to provide 200,000 homes a year simply to stand still. but no—one has ever done it. i did not think it is a matter of political debate between different political parties about this. it is it is a case of simply saying we need to do it. given that everyone knows we need to do, what provides that stability and encouragement for the industry to do it? by providing a purchaser of those properties. what is missing out the market at the moment and it has been missing since the late 19805, is somebody buying rented homes on a scale. you have had something like 15,000—25,000 social rented properties produced by associations, topped up by shared ownership 0ver the last 20 years. but since we stopped building scale rental homes, the market has not worked. you can plot the point the market stops functioning. it is when we stop building rented homes. there is a really important part here about quality. you will have seen in the last week or two, news of a particularly well—known house—builder, had a problem with regard to quality. it has cost them their ceo. there is a growing feeling that traditional building, in the house—building will, is not delivering the quality that purchasers or renters are expecting, in terms of the legacy of defects. i think we're just on the tip of the iceberg, in that regard. i think the pressures that the traditional trades and workforce have had had applied to it means we have substandard building going on at scale. we are building a legacy issue, in terms of downstream, over defects and maintenance issues issues that is actually pretty serious. i do not want to over—generalise, because there are a lot of people out there who are extremely well trained trend and competent, but that is being diluted. the numbers imperative is driving people into the industry at an accelerated rate, where potentially the competence levels are not as high as they were. that is another reason to promote innovation and off—site solutions, where quality control and more certainty of outcome is really important. now, the case of noel conway, a terminally ill patient who wants the right to end his life, was raised in the house of lords. the independent peer lady meacher, who is chair of the pressure group dignity in dying, asked if the government might consider changing the law. lord keen of elie said this would be a conscience vote for individual mps, who had rejected a change in the law in 2015. the short answer to the question is no. like previous governments, we have always made clear that this was a matter for parliament, not the government. the other house considered the bill in 2015, but rejected it by 330—118. i thank the minister for that reply. there has never been a government—supported bill in relation to assisted dying. he will be aware of noel conway who is taking his challenge to the high court. he thinks his individual human rights have been breached when the pain becomes unbearable. does the minister agree that the 86% of disabled people who support noel conway want a change in the law, so that when the time comes to face their own death, they can live the last few months safe in the knowledge that, when the suffering becomes unbearable, a professional will be there to help end it. can we seek an ethical bill along these lines in the future? it remains the government view that any change to the law is an issue for individual conscience and a matter for parliament, rather than one of government policy. i am aware of the case of noel conway. as it is now in court, it would not be appropriate for me to comment on that case. but a former president and current patron of the royal college of surgeons sounded a note of caution. should it ever be considered again, the medical profession has to be excluded. they will not want to be associated with the taking of life. they are there to save lives. it is possible there will be those who volunteer to undertake the task, but it is important that it should not be legislated, because the majority of them would be forced to undertake this, if that was the case. i hear what he is saying, and understand his reasoning behind his observations. i can only reiterate that this government does not intend to legislate in respect of this matter. the government needs to accept responsibility this matter and give the opportunity for people to make this important decision about how they die. again, i can understand the noble lord's interest and concern in respect of this matter. i will observe that parliament has twice addressed this issue in the recent past and has determined not to make amendments to the suicide act. it is not supported by one single organisation for people with progressive conditions. included the motor neurone disease organisation the very people who would be the main beneficiaries of assisted dying. growing numbers of disabled people in their organisations are campaigning against such a bill because they feel it is desperately unsafe. the cps looked at this in february 2010 and again in 2014. i understand the reluctance to change particular legislation, may i ask whether the minister, in consultation with his colleagues and the cps, would consider whether reforms are necessary with regard to cps policy on assisted dying? my lords, the matter is cps policy must be left to the cps to determine independently of parliament. it is not for government to dictate what that policy should be. it is regularly reviewed and i can say that, for example, in the period from 2009 to 2016, many cases were not proceeded with in the case of the prosecution. lord keen. you're watching monday in parliament. our top story: the government has been pressed by its own back benchers to speed up efforts to reform health and social care. the biggest threat to safety on the railways is terrorism, according to the deputy chief constable of the british transport police. he told mps on the transport committee the danger was unpredictable, but there were others too. the challenge from protecting the network that is wide and open, and the risks being so unpredictable, that is the greatest level of concern. we have seen that recently in north greenwich. it is a real threat that we have to counter. in terms of more traditional crime, protecting vulnerable people, i know it was a theme of the previous committee, but focusing effort on those people in crisis or at risk on the network and then can be vulnerable to crime is where we are putting our effort. those types of offences that really cause people the most physical harm and impact on the confidence to travel, so predatory sex offending, levels of violence, particularly where that affects railway workers. we have seen across europe recently terrorist attacks involving domestic vehicles. we have seen trucks and lorries. the biggest thing that concerns me is level crossings. we have trains that carry up to 1,000 people at peak times that are hurtling at huge speeds through level crossings where we have flimsy barriers. that is a major concern as far as i'm concerned. from your perspective, what can be done to mitigate the risk and what training is being provided to those in the control centre to try and spot some of the signs that may be able to stop such an attack happening in future? absolutely. i wish it was an easy one to answer because it is often described as martini terrorism, because it can happen at any place at any time. we cannot predict, as you will be familiar with. having an open network in the way we do and the way we run our lines across a small country, it opens up those vulnerable points. we do a lot around level crossings. we have a large number of network rail funded mobile safety vehicles that can allow us to target different hotspots or risk locations so that we can put those preventative and disruptive mitigations in, notjust for terrorism but for trespassing and people who are offending by not abiding by crossings. there is an increase in sexual offences, is that people feeling more confidence or more actual offences? how can we tell which it was? this is where we were out of kilter with other police forces. we have recorded a greater increase in sexual offending, and you are right to suggest there is a greater confidence in victims to tell us. we actively promoted our interests and concerns. we had a number of significant initiatives in the last two years. first of all, in london, there was project guardian, which was a collaboration. it encourages people who feel uncomfortable about behaviour on the tube. that morphed into a national campaign. if i give you a brief example, why is that important? quite a number of the victims who contacted us said, i experienced this in ourjourney, i don't want you to do anything further, but i want you to know it happened. for a variety of reasons, they want to take that approach. using that data, we were able to analyse trends. we saw that there was a spike in indecent assaults, touching, on a tube line. we were able to put undercover officers on that line and they saw an offender who used the busy service and the lurching of the train to bump into people. those victims did not know they had been victims, but watching his behaviour and seeing him do that three or four times in a row without getting off the service allowed us to intervene and arrest him. there has been mounting speculation that theresa may will signal a so—called "hard brexit", with the uk pulling out of the european single market and customs union. the prospect of leaving the single market has prompted concerns from trades unions that workers' rights could be undermined. but the business minister, lord prior, sought to lay those worries to rest. we do not need to be part of an eu single market to have strong protections for workers' rights. the government will not roll back eu rights in the work place or the workers' rights that are enjoyed, they will be brought across into uk law. i think he has indeed touched on this, would he go one step further and reassure the house and indeed the tuc that all the directives contained and that are relevant be contained in the great repeal bill? the prime minister has said that under this government we will see workers' rights not eroded and not just protected but enhanced. the commitment of this government is clear. 0bviously, for subsequent parliaments, as we we gain sovereignty over these issues, it will be up to individual parliaments to make those decisions. it is a sad day when the tuc no longer has faith in the labour party, the liberal party and this british parliament to defend the rights of british workers. is it not the case that workers enjoy rights far beyond the eu directives, especially with regard to maternity? the workers' rights enshrined in eu law will be transferred into uk law. but then it was added, where practical. could the minister tell us which workers' rights cannot be practically transferred into uk law? i can't think of any rights that would fall into the "not practical" area. the prime minister went further than that. she is committed and our whole industrial strategy is committed to bringing decent, well paid skilled jobs to britain. it's not often that a piece of legislation is thought capable of helping to heal "divisions in society". but that's what the labour mp jon cruddas thinks about the national citizen service bill. the national citizen service — or ncs — was set up six years ago to give teenagers the chance to do community work on residential trips away from home. the bill would give the service a permanent legal standing. it really focuses on how we live together. there is no more important issue addressing the country. how do we create a nation at ease with itself and foster a notion of service to others amongst our young people? obviously, this is vital given the divisions in our society, so clearly exposed around last year around class, race, geography and religion. these tensions might continue to escalate. they suggest a brittle country. resolving this and healing division will indeed take time, but this bill will help. a conservative, james berry, said the citizen service had many of the hallmarks of national service, recalling the words of his father who did his national service in the 1950s with the royal marines and the durham light infantry. he always would tell me what a great social leveller their national service was, because in basic training you could be there in a dorm with people from eton, with stockbroke rs, electricians, people from all different walks of life. every conceivable background, but any pre—existing airs and graces would be squashed by a diet of exercise, hard work, learning new skills and having to live, eat, sleep and work, do everything together as a team. i want ncs to give young people an appetite for service, for opportunities and try new things. our vision is for ncs to be a common experience for all. scouts, cadets, people familiar with service in the same team, sharing their expertise with people who have never done anything like this before. ncs sees people with different background, faiths, interests coming together at a formative age and learning the impact they can have on the community around them. with wide support across the parties, the bill was approved without a vote. and that's all from me for now. alicia mccarthy is here for the rest of the week, but from me, joanna shinn, goodbye. good morning. we got some topsy—turvy weather conditions across the country yesterday. last week's snow still just about lying on the tops of high ground in scotland. a lot of cloud around, but look at the temperature. 12 degrees, incredibly mild for this time of year. a different story further south and east. brief glimpses of sunshine across the kent coast, but it was cold. four orfive generally in the south—east corner. that is because the nearer the area of high pressure and the cold air coming from the near continent, at the same time, winds coming from a south—westerly direction in scotland driving in this milder air. there will continue to be quite a lot of cloud, thick enough for drizzle. not a cold start to the day, but in the south—east corner, temperatures hovering around freezing. it will be a mucky start to the day through scotland and northern ireland. a lot of cloud around with hill fog and bits and pieces of showery rain through eastern scotland down across the borders towards the isle of man and north—west england. further south, maybe cloud thick enough for the odd spot of drizzle, but nothing especially significant. it will be mild. through the isle of wight up into east anglia, here it will be cold and frosty. i suspect we will see more in the way of sunshine through tuesday. clear skies and a beautiful day developing for many of us. further north and west, cloudy and murky close to the coast. but it stays incredibly mild. with eastern scotland brightening up into the afternoon, we could see highs of 12 degrees. generally around 10 celsius through scotland and northern ireland. into that south—east corner, despite the sunshine, it stays cold — four or five. for the fa cup third—round replays, it will be cold at wimbledon, but burnley and barnsley looks as though it will stay with a little more cloud and not quite so cold there. with the clear skies through the day, that will allow for temperatures to really fall away overnight tuesday into wednesday. perhaps the coldest of the nights through the week. we could see lows down to —2, “11 in rural spots. —1 close to towns and city centres. elsewhere, it will be cloudy and rather mild. that theme, what a surprise, continues into wednesday. once we lose the frost, it will be a glorious day across much of southern england, but it looks as though it will stay rather cloudy. but double digits again in the far north. 10 degrees the high. things become more uniform thursday into friday. not quite as sunny in the south, and not quite as warm in the north. take care. a very warm welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to our viewers in north america and around the globe. my name's mike embley. our top stories: turkish police say they've captured the main suspect in the istanbul nightclub shooting where 39 people were killed in the new year attack. donald trump casts a long shadow across the atlantic as europe and china hit back at his latest foreign policy comments. elections are called in northern ireland as the power—sharing government collapses. but the main parties are warned they will have to work together again. and he was the last man on the moon. commander gene cernan dies at the age of 82. hello.

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