it wasn't that, it wasn't fear? i can absolutely assure you the last bunch of people you ever could possibly intimidate was the five members of the undertones! like every other healthy teenager on the planet, we were more obsessed with more songs about chocolate and girls. exactly. what you sang about was the usual teenage dreams, the longings, the girls, the frustrations with your family, it was. . . it was the stuff of ordinary life. correct. ..which in a funny sort of way was sort of avoiding the reality of what you were living through. well, it's not, because that was actually allowing us that was actually allowing us that moment of freedom and that head space and that moment of clarity, because the truth is nobody in northern ireland at the time sat around thinking, "oh, this is dreadful, this is terrible." everybody, as best they could, was trying to get on with normal lives. and, in fact, that situation, like all forms of poverty and oppression and difficulty and suffrage, becomes normal. and i'll give you a very simple example. the first time we as the undertones