and james talked about that before, social and equality. one is poverty and the other is inequality. it drives into the anger and that has really been shown now in durban. i have been reading what colleagues are writing from durban. it's shocking the kind of, the dimension of looting, the violence there. and the fear is, will it spread? and for ramaphosa it is now to prove that he is a figure of hope and he will maintain the rule of law and he will not give in to the protests and the pressure from a wing from the anc. but, of course, as james explains, is it more, is it actually a coup? is it a hidden coup? how can he gain control back? it is a very big country. there is a lot of crime, a lot of layers of history and as you say, it has been