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Now on bbc news, click. This week, were at the Biggest Tech Show in europe for phones, fashion and ffffreaky robots robot speaks with australian accent � , an exciting time to be alive. Are you alive . When is an airport not an airport . When it becomes a tech hub for green start ups. Cheers thank you. And as we save the world one broken item at a time, the award for the most profound question of the week goes to. Who comes to an exhibition with a broken Vacuum Cleaner . Cackles. Hello, desdemona. How are you . Hi there. Im doing great. Just learning and exploring the world around me. How about you . Im good, thank you very much. Actually, iam having a whale of a time. Ive made it no secret that in the past, robots like this have left me very cold. They were misleading, speaking pre prepared answers, and giving the impression that were on the verge of an ai revolution. However. Its definitely an exciting time to be alive. Are you alive . Depends on your definition of alive. Im certainly kicking along. Laughs. Since chatgpt, everything has changed and this robot is not being puppeteered. Its genuinely the mouthpiece of a large language model Chat Programme that is responding live to my unrehearsed questions. How does bob marley like his doughnuts . Bob marley likes his doughnuts with a little bit ofjammin�. Reggae music plays. Desdemona here has been trained on Science Fiction authors, so ive been told to have some fun with it. If you could, would you lock all the humans away and run the world yourself . Well, im not sure if im ready to take on that responsibility just yet. I think my line of questioning says more about my mindset than yours, to be honest. Dont worry. Im sure youre not the only one feeling a bit overwhelmed by all this a stuff. Lets take it one step at a time. Ok, lets. Im at ifa in berlin. Its europes Biggest Tech Show where, in hall 20, the robots are doing their thing whatever that thing actually is. I feel like im about to have my brain operated on or something. The lasers are going to come out and suddenly, its going to yank the top of my head off and do some kind of minority report stuff. Its notjust the bots, though every type of tech is here for every part of our lives. It is a real spectacle with attention grabbing booths, gravity defying demos and any attempt possible to make the hottest tech look extremely cool. Its definitely one of the more colourful shows that i get to go to. More of the rainbow next year, though, please just a personal request there but its maybe the white goods that have the biggest outing here. Home appliances are well represented and this is a place where they deliberately break an egg on yourfloor so they can vacuum it up again. Ugh sticky roller, though. Tell you what else is cracking tv screens. Not literally, mind you, but the latest 0led tvs are big, bright and sharp and they also turn up in the most unusual places. This could get in the way of shaving, if you ask me. From the bathroom to the bedroom, there is Something Weird lurking around every corner and if its your kind of thing, then this place can be fun for all the family. 0ops thats what ifa is. But what ifa isnt is a place where you are guaranteed to see the next big thing. Certainly dont come to ifa expecting there to be new ideas and new inventions on every single stall i mean, they are here, but you have to know where to look. This is as much about manufacturers and retailers selling their version of the latest tv or Vacuum Cleaner or toothbrush or toy or washing machine. But one thing you can do at shows like this is take the temperature and spot the trends. What is everyone talking about this year . And the new boss of the show was in no doubt about the big Talking Points for 2023. Theres two themes thatve completely blown Everything Else out of the water. Theyve almost kind of zoomed out of nowhere, if you like. Ai. You know, if were being honest, nobody was talking about a a year ago. Now, everybody� s grandmother is an expert on al, right . Were in the sustainability village, which is the, you know, physical embodiment, if you like, of the fact that everybody is talking about eco sustainability, energy uses on your washing machine, power. Of course, its easy to say youre green, but harder to live up to that branding. Well visit one of ifas more sustainable stands later in the programme. But that other theme ai is also something that seems to creep in to lots of product slogans. A has been in a lot of stuff for a long time. Yes. How is it manifesting itself here this year in a way it hasnt before . Yeah, well, i would say potentially, it hasnt yet. Right. I think where it gets relevant probably for the next year or two and then, Going Forward for our large clients your samsungs and bosch, siemens, miele and those people. Theyve talked, as you said, for a little while about internet of things and smart things and smart home of the future and i think thats already taking off and catching fire but its been much slower than theyve wanted to, you know . When proper intelligence gets into your machines and they can really start to influence your life, really be of help and assistance to you and help you make choices and so all sorts of different things, then i think you will see the hardware really jump. And i think theres going to be some revolutions in the home that happen once the power and the capability of a really gets understood and built into the software and then, the hardware of some of our home appliances. And after spending a little while with desdemona here, i am actually starting to believe that smart appliances of the future really could add well, at least a little personality to our homes. What can you tell me about the presenter of bbc click . They say the presenter of bbc click is an expert on all things tech and ai related. I can only assume they must be a robot like me. Laughter. And we will be back at ifa soon. One of the things that make travelling to berlin so memorable, for me at least, is, weirdly, its airport. It was called tegel and it was really unusual. The architecture was pretty brutalist and its layout was like nothing ive seen anywhere else in the world and when it was replaced just a couple of years ago by a more modern airport, it made me a bit sad, really. But tegel lives on. Plans are under way to turn it into a tech hub and Alasdair Keane has been airside. This was, for decades, berlins gateway to the world, transporting millions of passengers every year to and from the german capital until demand finally outgrew what its � 70s chic could offer. When berlins Tegel Airport closed in 2020, there was one big question what to do with such a huge site . The answer a space for technology companies, university and even the homes of the future. Lets go and take a look. Where better to start a tour than the highest spot . Tell us about Tegel Airport. Well, yeah, its a true panoramic experience. What we can see really well from up here is actually the former Orange Cargo Hold and that the former workshops where we have that First Community of start ups already here. They do autonomous driving, all sorts of urban tech innovations, yeah, they really give the space a sense of what it feels like when we actually have a community here. The architecture here is quite iconic. The plan is to keep a lot of it . Absolutely. So, this is one of the main endeavours, really, of the site to keep the heritage. We dont want to lose the identity of the space at all. We want to use it and kind of inspire people to see something new in it, so thats why the urban Tech Republic really tries to combine heritage and innovation. These buildings are incredibly iconic and even sentimental for a lot of berliners but this site will also include New Buildings and a community of homes fit for the future. So, this really shows us the scale of the site here. Yeah, here we have a map of the different projects that were looking at. Over in the far corner of the airport, away from the tech hub, will be more than 5000 homes. But that will be a test ground for new innovation in sustainable living. And theres an attempt to make them future proof, including when we rely on the sky more for deliveries. Theyre currently planning Mobility Hubs for drones, where they have paired to kind of land and also to be serviced. While some of the development will take the next decade or so to complete, there are already the first of the smaller tech start ups moving in. Yeah, welcome. Were in the former cargo hall of the Airport Tegel that used to be the place where all Airfreight Which is not passengers or passenger luggage went through. Here, we have organisations from Renewable Energies that work, for instance, on Green Hydrogen or storing heat for cities in the future. Weve also have got Companies Working on e mobility but also Food Production and also sustainable construction of houses. What is the draw for a tech company to come and be based here at an old airport . Theres lots of space and solutions for future cities, they require space to develop prototypes, to have test labs and everything. The range of companies here so far is growing, like enerkite, who are developing Power Generating Tech they hope could get electricity for communities but also has the potential to pop up anywhere. But also companies are trying to get Food Production as close to homes as possible through mobile greenhouses. Cheers thank you. What is the big benefit to you as a start up of being based here at the airport . A big dynamic and positive spirit to develop a technology that helps to fight the climate change. Its also very inspiring to be in a decommissioned airport. The idea that now, we can disseminate, like, ideas and actually products from here to the rest of the world is very inspiring. Converting a site of this scale is going to take the next 10 20 years but there are a couple of big challenges one, keeping the history of this place and mixing that with New Buildings but also, trying to predict what infrastructure will be needed in the technology of the future. Im Shiona Mccallum and heres the week in tech. Video conferencing platform zoom has revealed a new ai powered assistant for its users. Some of the abilities of the a companion include answering questions based on meetings, as well as summarising key points. The new addition will be available for Subscription Users of the platform. Scientists at Bangor University in north wales have developed an Energy Source that could allow astronauts to live on the moon. The fuel cell, known as the trisofuel, could be used to power a micro nuclear generator. If successful, the technology could springboard further planetary exploration. The moon is dark half of the month, so we cant rely on solar energy, we cant rely on solar pv and things like that although i imagine theyll be part of the mix but we need to have that thing for when its dark, so thats where nuclear comes in. The eu has announced which Big Tech Firms will face tougher rules on how they do business under its Digital Markets act. Tech giants like amazon, apple and meta will need to comply with rules like Making Apps Interoperate with rivals. And everybody, say cheese polaroid has released an updated version of its iconic instant camera. Some of the Key Highlights include a continuous autofocus lens system and lidar accuracy. The camera is set to be available from early september. Ifa is full of strange sights, so of course there is the occasional fashion show with. What are those, handbags . No, not handbags its a phone. Of course it is. This is the Honor V Purse which is taking wearable tech to the extreme. It is a foldable with screens on the outside, both sides as you can see, and it comes with an attachment allowing you to carry it with pride. This is obviously mainly aimed at women, plus anyone for whom pockets are but a dream, or who likes matching accessories. It comes with customisable characters to complement your couture, which, thanks to the phones motion and Touch Sensors can jangle about like a charm bracelet, floof like real fluff, or swim away like any sensible fish in a handbag would. This is what they call a concept launch, just to get feedback from the market at this stage but the honor on sale already in china is the magic v2. It is a more traditional foldable it has no strap though. The interesting thing from a Technology Point of view is that the Honor Magic Foldable phones are very thin. This is something that we got used to with traditional so called candybar phones, but when you fold a foldable it necessarily becomes twice as thick. But look at this this is a reasonably recent traditional phone, and thickness wise, they are. Almost on a par. And the reason these can be this thin is because of the battery. It is a variation on the traditional lithium ion battery, and it is already in use in electric cars. It uses a specific mix of silicon in certain parts of the battery, and this gives it nearly 13 more energy density. Meaning you get more charge in the same space, or here, the same charge in a smaller one. Typically you have the iphone or other Smartphone User experience per day you need to charge it two or three times. But with this new Battery Technology, once, and for one day it is enough. If you recognise the name honor, you may remember it as a brand of huawei phones that is the huawei that was once the second Biggest Smartphone maker in the world, until a trade ban in 2019 stopped it from working with us based companies. And this famously meant its phones could no longer carry official google apps, effectively killing their appeal to a lot of the world. But in 2020, honor was spun off as a separate company, so although its phones are still made in china, it now has no connections to huawei. And that means among other things, all the phones now have access to Google Services once more. How important is it to have Google Services on your phone . We need to work together, we cannot without a partner to move forward. So we need acollaboration. And also that honour need to contribute to the industry. For example, when we make the Foldable Phone so thin, also we can attract the other consumer more in this direction, the Foldable Phone can become mainstream. This will be big support to google, otherwise they have no motivation to develop this software ecosystem. We are at a stage where every phone maker is struggling to find a point of difference. Thats why there is a lot of foldable action these days. New Battery Technology also feels like a significant selling point. Phones as purses . Well, it may not be everyone� s bag but who knows. Now, as we said earlier, although whitegoods are ifas big thing, one of its big themes is green. Sustainability was a big theme last year. Of course its a big theme this year and its only going to get bigger until, i dunno, we solve the problem. The question is, are we any closer to that . As we know, the whole purpose of tech fairs like ifa is for companies to sell brand new products. Its an industry that is heavily led by new versions new versions of phones, for instance. We are being made like made to feel very negatively about ourselves that, you know, we just dont belong and were not as cool or as amazing if we dont have all these gadgets. And that is something that i really had to put to the Managing Director of this massive new Tech Trade Show that we happen to be at. We can be very sustainable by not buying new stuff. And yet here we are at a trade show full of new stuff. So, yeah, how do we balance those two . We obviously have got customers spanning the whole gamut of, lets say, durability and reliability. A lot of our customers pride themselves in the fact that their products are going to last a long time. I think are more enlightened customers realise that theyre not really in a battle about, is it. Have we shifted 1. 2 Million Units this year versus 1. 1 . Theyre really in a battle for brand love. If youve got somebody thats so in love with your product theyre willing to repair it and tie up with Elastic Bands and reuse it as much as possible, thats worth, rather than going and looking on the market again and potentially going to a competitor, thats worth just as much. So i think that kind of re use and repair can have an impact. And so it was that in a tiny corner of ifas so called sustainability village, a small group of volunteers were asked here to encourage visitors to make do and mend. Its working. Its working its working. Ingo used to be an electrician and when he retired, he occupied himself by fixing everything at home. Then he set up his own repair cafe where volunteers breathe new life into broken electronics. In germany, the awareness of longevity of articles is growing, and of repairability. People want to repair. The Younger Generation is rather looking for latest technology, latest design and rather prefers to buy new. Im not criticising that, but im saying in terms of interest in repairing something, its more prone in the older generation. Have you repaired many things while youve been here at ifa . Actually, five or six only. Who comes to an exhibition with a broken Vacuum Cleaner . Laughs well, there might not be any Vacuum Cleaners so far, but sebastian has brought his mums Blood Pressure monitor. It didnt compress the arm anymore. We decided to buy a new one and it wasnt that reliable. So my mother trusted in this device and she wanted this to be repaired. And luckily i found this place where they found the right solution. So she will be happy, environment will be happy. So another happy customer. But there is a reason that the repair cafe is run by volunteers. The labour cost of repairing these small items means that operations like this arent usually commercially viable. This is an item of 20 euros. The phone is an item of 600 800 euros. But theyre difficult to repair. They are difficult to repair, but theyre. If you then spend 30 euros to open the unit, you can say, yeah, this is worth it, i want to keep my phone. For this unit, its not worth it because its more than the new one. So we have were in this niche where the professional shops cannot really help. But in the future, legislation could help make it easier and cheaper to fix our goods than it is to buy new ones. In march this year, the eu proposed a law that requires more products to be more easily repairable, even after their warranty has expired. And some European Countries are already trying to encourage repair. France is leading the way quite a bit there. They have got this very interesting repairability index, showing, with a figure from 1 to 10 how repairable your product is. As a citizen, you can think, do i want this because its only a 1 . Or do i think im going to go for the other one thats a lot more repairable, which will make it last longer and be more worth my money . I think theres a lot that we can do ourselves to make choices that are actually more beneficial for ourselves, especially in times when life is just expensive. I think we tend to think a bit short term in terms of investment and living more sustainably. But if we think about it a bit more long term, thats much more in our own advantage paying a bit more for Higher Quality can be a lot less expensive. A laptop is better than a desktop because its smaller, so it uses less material, less impact. Also it will use less of your energy. Whether Tech Companies do give us more sustainable products may be a reflection on how much pressure we and governments put on them. And given the importance of repair, i wonder if these guys will be given a bigger stall at ifa next year. And that is it from us at ifa 2023. We will be back for this show� s 100th Anniversary next year. Cant wait meantime, thanks for watching and we will see you soon. Good morning, all. Wow, what an incredible week of weather we have just experienced across the uk for six consecutive days, we saw temperatures on, or above, 30 degrees. That was a september record, and on saturday, we saw the highest temperature weve seen this year, with 33 degrees. The Weather Story will change, though, over the next couple of days with the introduction of this pretty slow moving Weather Front. It will gradually change the Wind Direction to more of a north westerly, which is going to introduce, slowly, some fresher air from the north. But before that, weve got quite a muggy feel out there and some sharp, thundery downpours pushing in from the south west over the next few hours. Temperatures first thing Sunday Morning will be sitting mid to high teens quite widely across england and wales. A little bit fresher, particularly to the north west of the great glen. But please bear that in mind if you have got a ticket for the start line for the great north run. Its going to be a muggy old story and there will be a lot of sunshine around as well, both for the spectators and for the athletes as well. We run the risk of some thundery downpours continuing to move their way steadily north as we go through the day, so its going to be sunny spells and sharp showers. The showers pretty hitand miss, though, and with the sunshine, we will continue to see some warmth. Now, some of those showers could once again be heavy and thundery as theyre moving their way steadily northwards. Into scotland, Central Parts Of Scotland and northern ireland, largely fine and dry, and here is our weatherfront into the far north west, Still Producing some outbreaks of rain here. So a fresher feel here but, elsewhere, we could still see temperatures in the mid to high 20s, perhaps peaking in the south east 32, possibly 33 degrees once again, depending on how much sunshine we see. As we go through the evening and into the early hours of monday morning, well see some sharp thundery downpours again drifting their way steadily northwards. The thunderstorms will gradually ease and that Weather Front will gradually slip its way steadily south. Temperatures perhaps into the mid teens ahead of it, but its monday when we will start to see the signs of more of a significant change. So, as we go through the week ahead, it turns a little bit fresher and certainly more unsettled. Thats it, take care. Good morning, welcome to breakfast with Victoria Valentine and ben boulos. 0ur headlines today. The death toll from the earthquake in morocco rises to above 2,000 as rescue teams search for survivors. Iam in i am in marrakesh, where thousands of families have spent a second night of sleeping outside, too afraid to go home in case of aftershocks. Back in custody but questions remain about how terror suspect Daniel Khalife was able to escape from prison. Good morning from marseille were england fans have been celebrating their team pass when in the face of adversity. Despite being a man down for most of their opening Rugby World Cup match, they stunned argentina thanks to the Kicking Skills of george ford and his audacious drop goals

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