the people who've died during this pandemic. and it's an autumn garden, isn't it? it's really for autumn colour, and a bit of spring. can we go and have a look at the chokeberries? the extraordinary thing is none of the birds eat them. there are different varieties of them. i wouldn't. .. there are better ones. they're are bit tart. slightly astringent. they're supposed to be a health food, aren't they? yeah, yeah. what an interview! what a garden! not a bad selection of trees. more of that later in the programme. now for the sport. the latest about andy marie. seems like we're over his performances. ——