case and nothing more, would be enough to get on top of it. the latest job figures the latestjob figures are out in an hour. what will be the implications of the latest alert system on hospitality and industry. already on its knees. three weeks to go until the us election and donald trump holds his first rally since being treated for coronavirus, declaring he's in perfect shape. i feel so powerful... i ifeel so powerful... i will walk into that audience, i will walk in there and kiss everyone in that audience. cheering and applause. arsene wenger opens up about his 22 years at arsenal. he talks about his love for the club, why he left, and has his say on that radical plan to shake up english football. morning. for some of us today, there is more rain showers and brisk winds in the forecast but after today, things quietened down and it will dry up still be chilly. all of the details in about ten minutes. it's tuesday, october 13th. our top story: it's emerged that the government's top scientific advisers called for much tougher coronavirus restrictions — including a two week lockdown across england — at a meeting in september, three weeks before the prime minister's new measures were announced yesterday. the new system will see all areas in england placed into three different categories of restrictions from tomorrow — but do not go as far as the scientists‘ recommendations. our political correspondent helen catt has the story. life in the liverpool city region is about to change significantly, again. the only place in england so far to be put straight into the highest of the new bands of restrictions. but millions of other people will see changes too because the virus continues to spread. these figures are flashing at us like dashboard warnings in a passengerjet, and we must act now. the new three—tier system for england will replace current local lockdown restrictions, and comes into place on wednesday. most of england will be put on medium alert level where the rule of six and 10pm hospitality curfew will continue. some areas will be put at the high level. no household mixing indoors anywhere but the rule of six still applies outdoors. the most severe level of alert is very high. there will be no mixing of households anywhere. pubs and bars will be closed unless they provide a substantial meal. but... i am not confident nor is anybody confident that the tier three proposals for the highest rates, if we did the absolute base case and nothing more, would be enough to get on top of it. that is why there is a lot of flexibility. the highest rate space all authorities also shot shops so in also shot shops liverpool, local authorities have agreed they will also shut leisure centres, gyms, betting shops and casinos. residents will be encouraged not to leave be encouraged to stay away the area and visitors told to stay away. at the site at but it's now emerged that the scientists advising the government had said in september that a much tougher batch of measures was needed then, to slow the spread of the virus in england. labour says the government needs to explain why it ignored its own scientists. downing street says the actions it took last month, like the rule of six, were robust but targeted and proportionate, and it followed extensive engagement. and even those have drawn criticism. in parts of the west midlands which are going into the high alert level, households will no longer be able to socialise in pubs and restaurants. it is very disappointing. it's my view not the right decision both for the health and the livelihoods of citizens across the west midlands. and quite simply, there is very, very little evidence that locations like this pass on the disease. a decision will be made on new lockdown measures in wales in the next few days. in northern ireland, health officials are calling for decisive action. and in scotland, nicholas sturgeon says she will draw up her own tiered framework towards the end of the month. helen catt, bbc news. let's get more on this with our political correspondent, iain watson. iain, do we know why the government chose not to adopt these measures put forward by sage? quite extensive measures suggested by the scientific advisors built up a circuit acre, a mini lockdown might last two or three weeks. to try to put the spread back by a month. —— circuit breaker. the government said they took a robust targeted response and introduced a range of measures in september including of course the rule of six, including of course the rule of six, including this curfew on hospitality across england at 10pm so they did do some things but the crux of it is this, that in effect, what they are saying is they want to protect lives but also protect livelihoods. in other words, they are weighing up the effect of new measures on the economy as well as the outcomes for people ‘s health and again, when we're having this discussions with scientific advisors, government advisers are making it clear that they are notjust advisers are making it clear that they are not just talking to advisers are making it clear that they are notjust talking to the chief medical adviser but also the chief economist. what they wanted to do was minimum to keep the economy going and the maximum that they could do to try to protect life at the time but the old mantra that they were following the science, that seems to have gone out the window and labour are calling for an explanation as to why the government ignored scientific advice, as they see it, at the time. from the government point of view, they are making it clear that they will take further action and tougher action if thatis further action and tougher action if that is required. thank you, iain was not we will be speaking to the labour party, john ashworth, shadow health secretary and also at 7.30, the community secretary will be live on breakfast. the first minister of wales, mark drakeford, has threatened to ban people from covid hotspots in england from travelling to wales if borisjohnson refuses to impose the measure himself. the uk government has advised against non—essential travel from merseyside, but stopped short of making it illegal. mr drakeford said he would give ministers at westminster "one final opportunity", before making changes to welsh law. ministers in northern ireland's devolved government are meeting today to decide on further restrictions to stop the spread of the coronavirus. it's understood senior advisors have suggested measures should last between four to six weeks to have the greatest effect. at the moment, there are tighter rules in londonderry and strabane — where restaurants and pubs can't serve customers indoors. homeless charities are warning that plans to re—open night shelters could put lives at risk this winter because it's difficult to make them covid secure. the government is being urged to fund self—contained emergency accommodation as it did during the main lockdown period. the department for housing, says io—million pounds is being made available to councils and has promised guidance on safely re—opening shelters. less than two weeks after confirming he had covid 19, donald trump is back out on the campaign trail, with the us presidential elections now just three weeks away. the president told supporters in the key state of florida that he was fully recovered and returned to criticising his democratic opponentjoe biden, who was campaigning in another crucial state, 0hio. let's speak now to our correspondent peter bowes in los angeles. just give us an assessment of what happened in the last few hours. yes, good morning. well, president trump is back to being his usual energetic sense “— is back to being his usual energetic sense —— self. he bounded onto the stage in florida. his first task was to throw some trump face masks into the crowd and during his speech he was essentially celebrating his own recovery saying that he felt powerful and full of health and that he would go into the crowd and kiss everyone. just before he arrived, his dock —— doctor arrived and said he had tested negative on two consecutive days, negative for the virus. his mood at this rally a shock contrast to the mood and tone ofjoe biden who was in cincinnati earlier in the day and it was a very serious tone. he was talking about the number of people who won't be around the dinner table. the brothers and sisters, the parents and grandparents who have died because of coronavirus. again, attacking donald trump and the trump administration for their response to the disease. it is very clear with just three weeks to go until the election, this disease, the coronavirus, is going to stay, front and centre, of the campaign. but the style, the substance and i think the content style, the substance and i think the co nte nt of style, the substance and i think the content of the message from both of these candidates will be very, very different and it will give americans, when they go to the polls, a very clear choice. it's a big night for wildlife photographers, as they wait to find out who's won this year's wildlife photographer of the year award. the winner will be revealed by the duchess of cambridge later. here'sjust some of the thousands of submissions. this one is by makoto ando. evie easterbrook took this portrait of some puffins. this dramatic picture of widlifes in brazil was captured by charlie hamilton james. and these little possums were caught on camera by gary meredith. good luck to them all. i can't think of the word possums without hearing the voice of dame edna average. —— everidge. now the weather with carol. quite a bit of cloud around and rained today with same showers and brisk winds. after today, things turn a bit drier than they have been, some drizzle and it will, remain dry, some of us after chilly start. this goes round into southern england and a bit in the south—east will drift west. as we move north, one or two showers to start the day in northern ireland but drying up to you with some sunshine and the same in scotland, we're looking at improving through the course of the day as a rain band sinks south into northern england still a bit of cloud and murky conditions around the borders. temperatures today about a 10—13. if you are stepping out this afternoon, improving in south—west england, it will dry out with fewer showers and sunshine and the showers getting into the channel islands. some sunshine for northern ireland. still some dampness across the south—east of scotland but for the south—east of scotland but for the rest of scotland, mostly dry with some sunshine and also fewer showers. as we head on through the evening and overnight, once again, the rain will come in from the north sea, showers in the south and under clear skies we could see a touch of frost and in sheltered glands of scotla nd frost and in sheltered glands of scotland and potentially to the west of northern ireland as well. i will have a much longer forecast in about half—an—hour. let's take a look at today's papers. there's lots of reaction to the new restrictions in england. the telegraph says the government overruled scientific advisers who wanted much stricter national measures last month. the times says millions more people could soon be living under tighter restrictions, with the prime minister apparently keen for much of the north of england to join liverpool in the top tier of measures. the metro reflects on liverpool's tough new restrictions. pubs and bars will be forced to close tomorrow and households can't mix. and on the back pages this morning — news that 13 premier league clubs have united to oppose plans drawn up by manchester united and liverpool to reform the english football leagues. imight i might have mixed my duchesses up, it was the duchess of cambridge not duchess of sussex. what have you got there? mine are all food related. yesterday we were talking about rob burrow. the documentary that was meant to be on last night, lots of people were waiting seven o'clock on bbc two but because of the prime minister ‘s press conference, that has been moved until tonight. so the 0ne has been moved until tonight. so the one show was moved over to bbc two and we wanted to make sure as many people as possible could watch the rob burrow documentary. it is on bbc two tonight at seven p.m.. a p pa re ntly apparently some people leave food in the garden for wild animals thinking now kind but it causes competition among animals in conflict with humans. they have been looking at boxes and martens, and some of the animals get 50% of their died from human sources. —— foxes. the british habit of leaving food out the animals like foxes could have unintended consequences.” animals like foxes could have unintended consequences. i imagine you do a good christmas dinner. you have roast ease? a combination? no. sometimes i have a combination. my first round of christmas dinner, i just go meet and potatoes. then i bring the rest in later, second round. there will be a scramble to get a turkey for christmas this year, butchers have warned, because of disruption in the supply chain. and the reason why i mentioned potatoes, there may be a shortage of tito ‘s after farmers planted this year when they were spooked by lusty‘s bloods. —— potatoes. year when they were spooked by lusty's bloods. —— potatoeslj year when they were spooked by lusty's bloods. -- potatoes. iwill have to grow some potatoes. —— last yea r‘s have to grow some potatoes. —— last year's bloods. the top ten food gripes. tell me if you do any of these. do you dip a chip in someone else's catch up? probably. help yourself to someone else's naan bread? no. sharing a pizza, would you take an extra slice? no. a massive handful of crisps when someone offers? definite. what about eating from somebody else's late when they pop to the loo? no. 0utrageous. not ordering a side dish but tucking into someone else's? i a lwa ys but tucking into someone else's? i always order a side dish. what about putting? 0h, always order a side dish. what about putting? oh, yes. the top two, helping yourself to chips from someone else's plate without asking. you've got to ask. it's annoying anyway. the top one apparently which probably doesn't happen much at the moment but taking a bite from someone else's berger. you can't, that's. .. almost as someone else's berger. you can't, that's... almost as bad as somebody else's ice cream. -- hamburger. i do it with my children some time, if they've run out of appetite and dad has to step in. that is the number one food based gripes. less than two weeks after contracting covid—i9, us president donald trump has been back out on the campaign trail. in front of an enthusiastic crowd in the important state of florida, the president was back on familiar ground, lambasting democratic rival joe biden. he also told supporters he was feeling a lot better. 0ne one thing with me, the nice part, i went through it, now they say i am immune, ifeel so went through it, now they say i am immune, i feel so powerful, went through it, now they say i am immune, ifeel so powerful, iwill walk in, i will walk in there and kiss everyone in that audience. i will kiss the guys and the beautiful women and everyone, i willjust give you a big fat kiss. but there is something nice, i don't have to be locked up in my basement and i wouldn't allow that to happen anyway, i wouldn't allow that to happen. when you are the president you can't lock yourself in the basement and so you're not going to bother with the world but he got to get out and it's risky but you've got to get out but it does give you a good feeling when you can beat something and now they say you're immune, idon't something and now they say you're immune, i don't know how long, some people say polite, some people say performance. every time i think about it, it gets shorter and shorter because they wanted to be as bad as possible. let's speak now tojohn hanley, a professor of political science at the university of florida who joins us from orlando. he is right back in there? the message to his core supporters and trampolining voters is that he is back, if you see from the video, he is enjoying being back. quite a contrast with joe biden, particularly now. i think it's been difficult for donald trump to find the right line between being optimistic and being positive on what is administration is doing, showing the proper respect for the virus. joe biden has shown a different way and the polls attended in his favour as a result. it is about ten points up in the average. let's talk about the presidential debate. we know it had to be postponed also refusing to take part ina postponed also refusing to take part in a virtual debate. what kind of impact will that have, and what impact will that have, and what impact do these debates have anyway? the debates of a small impact but there is only about 10% of the electorate that says they are still undecided, so this was going to be a debate that might not have been the best format for president trump. it is, however, a debate that he probably needed more thanjoe biden did. he was giving joe biden a gift. the debate which will happen in about a week, it will have lost some of the momentum that comes from, in normal years, we have one debate every week for about four weeks, so there is talk about what is happening from one debate to the next. people are really going to remember what happened in late set timber by october 22. what is the main thing? so much of this has been dominated by coronavirus. when people are going to the polls, what is the forefront. the coronavirus is one of the most important rings. in florida, lots of ads for the biden campaign, talking to seniors, reminding them that they can't see their grandchildren, families have been disrupted, attributing many of the disruptions to the administration. it's going to be on the minds of a lot of voters. as they send their mail ballots in which is something that has risen to unprecedented levels. john, good to speak to you. thank you for staying up speak to you. thank you for staying up late. we're expecting the latest unemployment figures in less than an hour's time this morning and they could show that the number of those out of work because of the pandemic continues to grow. thousands of people have already lost both theirjobs and their livelihoods, with many receiving no government support. andy verity has been to find meet some of those who have fallen through the cracks. for sophia royle, losing her job could hardly have come at a more awkward time. and the end of last year, she and her partner bought a new home near gloucester with a hefty mortgage supported by two salaries. after lockdown, she was furloughed in may then she found out she was pregnant, then she lost herjob. it has been demoralising in a sense that i am not able to play my part as i had almost committed to do when we took on the house. you make these plans and you don't ever for a second think that things will fall apart as much as they have done. since the summer, sophia's tried to get a job so she can return to work and help pay the mortgage after the baby has been born. but searching for work while six months pregnant isn't easy even without a pandemic. i would like to see the government have some kind of a review for that bracket of people who have found themselves fallen through the cracks, a little. those people who have already been made redundant and are now struggling to find anotherjob because of the flooded market, because of the change in climate in terms ofjobhunting. the government schemes include the job retention bonus, thejob support scheme which pays up to 22% of salary employees are put on shorter hours, and, last friday, the government promised to cover up to two—thirds of wages where forms extra ct two—thirds of wages where forms extract firms are forced to shut by local lot downs. the progressive think tank, the ippr, says 1.8 million jobs could be saved if the money for the job retention bonus were instead spent on a greater incentive for firms to keep staff on part—time. it says 1.8 millionjobs it says 1.8 million jobs could it says 1.8 millionjobs could be savedif it says 1.8 millionjobs could be saved if there is a better incentive to keep staff on part—time. a lot of the jobs could be saved, by taking the wasteful part of the current scheme and focusing it on those jobs. it would actually mean we wouldn't spend more money, it would just mean targeting the resources more narrowly to those who really need it. so far, official jobless figures have understated the impact of the pandemic, not least because of the furlough scheme. the risk is as that scheme ends, many will move onto benefits and see their incomes drop sharplyjust weeks before christmas, with harsh effects on them, their families and the wider economy. andy verity, bbc news. there have already been big job losses in the hospitality industry and there are warnings there could be more to come following the new restrictions announced yesterday. nina is in a restaurant in manchester for us. good morning to you. yes, good morning. you may know about suite mandarin in manchester, this is lovely lily who opened one of the first chinese restaurants in manchester in the 50s. thanks sweet mandarin. restaurants like these are such a key —— sweet mandarin. the hospitality industry has taken a massive hit when it comes to job losses. let's have a look. 160,000 jobs have been lost in hospitality sincejuly. 20,000 jobs have been lost in hospitality since july. 20,000 of jobs have been lost in hospitality sincejuly. 20,000 of those since the ten o'clock curfew was brought injusta the ten o'clock curfew was brought injust a few the ten o'clock curfew was brought in just a few weeks ago. and 20%, one in five hospitality venues are still closed because of the new restrictions. it's just not worth opening their doors, according to them, and it means 900,000 staff in hospitality are still on furlough. what will happen to those jobs, to those people once we get to the end of cobo? it's a massive time for hospitality and here in greater manchester, they say they dodged a bullet last night by escaping the worst tier but massive challenges ahead. helen, lovely to see you. talk me through your feelings. do you feel you dodged a bullet? there we re you feel you dodged a bullet? there were fears that would be greater measures? so relieved about hearing that we could still open. we put in so many measures in place, we have coeliac customers, we really feel we owe to our customers to stay open. big relief that you are still having to do things like allow one household to come in at a time. how difficult is it enforcing those measures? i feel like a policewoman saying, are you from the same household? we saying, are you from the same household ? we have saying, are you from the same household? we have an app to put the address in in order to orderfood so we hope it will be a good measure to deter people from coming in who are not from the same household but restau ra nts not from the same household but restaurants are sociable people, it's where people meet and gather so it's where people meet and gather so it is very contrary to how we are. and a chinese restaurant, with the family, having screens up separating people, and you've already had to let some people go? tell us about that. it's very heartbreaking to do that. it's very heartbreaking to do that. we are now back to ten tables. we have lost two—thirds of our income thanks to social distancing measures. customers can be confident they are safe in our restaurant. putting up screens, paying for an app so it is all contactless. there is so much more cost to maintain this. it's hard to make ends meet. when you've got consumer confidence left right and centre. and great history. look at that photo of your nana, lily, who came from hong kong. you must feel that pressure. we serve lily's curry, mabel‘s chicken dish andi serve lily's curry, mabel‘s chicken dish and i am third generation and i can't let it go under. these measures, thank you. these measures will be reviewed every few weeks. it's not over yet. we understand they could carry on for six months but in greater manchester, they could enter the harshest measures in the next few weeks. what are the implications onjob the next few weeks. what are the implications on job numbers for hospitality especially, we will find out the latest figures at seven o'clock. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. i'm tara welsh. city hall has warned new restrictions banning different households from mixing indoors could be imposed at any time. it's expected the capital will be placed on medium alert level, the lowest point on the new three tier system. but a spokesman for the mayor warned last night that the capital could be moved upwards very quickly, potentially even this week. reports of domestic servitude in london have risen by 80% according to new figures. the majority of migrant domestic workers are women, mostly from south east asia. they often work long hours for little money and are vulnerable to emotional, physical and sexual abuse. we believe there are tens of thousands of potential victims right here in the uk and they will be involved in sexual exploitation, criminal exploitation, domestic servitude and forced labour. u nfortu nately, servitude and forced labour. unfortunately, it happens in every town, city and on every high street and places like london will have significantly more because of the size of the city. parts of london plan on opening up their low traffic neighbourhoods, after roads saw a major surge in congestion. the scheme aims to promote active travel such as cycling, walking, and public transport. but lewisham council in south london have said that the current measures aren't working as expected and they will be opening roads up. changes to the scheme will be announced next week. the south london gallery has been announced as one of the winners of art fund museum of the year 2020. it's one of the biggist arts awards in the country. as a response to the unprecedented challenges all museums face this year, five winners were selected and the prize money was increased to £200,000, which was split equally. let's take a look at the travel situation now. there's a good service on the tubes this morning. in mill hill, at fiveways corner there's no right turn from the a111 to the a1 because of a fault with the traffic lights. now the weather with kate. good morning. now we have got quite a lot of cloud around this morning, just one or two brighter spells at least to start with but the cloud will take over as we had further through. now we will see some showers from those quite heavy, feeling now a north—westerly breeze. if you are stuck underneath the showers, it won't feel pleasant. this afternoon, merging a little as well, maximum temperature between ten and 12 celsius. 0vernight we're still going to see showers feeding in but gradually, as they slip away, we will see the wind from the north—east and it's going to feel rather chilly but that breeze will strengthen through the night, the minimum temperature between seven and nine celsius. we could see some brighter spells first thing but it's going to be a largely cloudy day, a drier day, if you wish i was around for the course of wednesday. there we re for the course of wednesday. there were showers for the rest of this week. however, not too much on the way of sunshine. quite a lot of cloud and yes, the temperature is still feeling quite chilly. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. we'll bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment, but also on breakfast this morning. he's done it. we've followed lloyd scott throughout his final fundraising challenge, climbing the three peaks, in that diving suit. we'll find out how it went. after 22 years of being at the top of his game — arsene wenger reflects on his time at arsenal and his career. and it was the trainer that became an overnight sensation — but with success came a darker side — we'll explore the highs and lows of onne of nike's most profitable shoe. after new coronavirus restrictions we re after new coronavirus restrictions were announced for england yesterday, we will get thoughts, as usual, for this time of day, from ourgp. we'rejoined now by gp, dr ellie cannon — who is on hand to go through some our top stories from a medical perspective. let us talk about some of the restrictions apply minister was talking about yesterday. i guess the hope is it will slow the transmission of coronavirus. what are your thoughts this morning? absolutely. we have to remember how this virus transmits between us. it needs close contact, it needs those respiratory droplets to be travelling, it needs household mixing because obviously we are used to the viruses and the germs that we have already got in our own household so putting limits on that, putting limits on the number of people, putting limits on household mixing and the way that we are socialising, should go some way to reduce viral transmission. but of course, none of this is proven, none of this can be tested. it is all hypothetical. we have seen it before with lockdown, let ‘s hope that these measures are just as successful. the discussion this morning, we will talk to the government and the labour party a little bit later on this morning on brea kfast, little bit later on this morning on breakfast, is this sage advice from a few weeks ago. it has over 90% of the population remains suspect ball —— susceptible. not taking action now will result in an ever. —— and epp -- now will result in an ever. —— and epp —— epidemic. the government did not follow the recommendations. that was the time that they brought in the rule of six and a number of other measures as well. we look at that and ask whether that was the right decision. i think it was the right decision. i think it was the right decision, actually, and i have to give credit to the government for that. that ‘s because we can'tjust looked at the covid situation. there are no economists on sage, no gps, actually, and while their advice, of course, is incredibly wise, we also have to look at all of those other harms that are notjust covid. whether it is the economy or other health harms which could also be catastrophic. and therefore, i think we didn't have the two—week circuit breaker but we haven't actually had an exponential rise in cases so perhaps the rule of six was enough and that fine balance between preventing the catastrophe of covid and also preventing the catastrophe from other non— covert harms. and also preventing the catastrophe from other non- covert harms. you have been speaking to your patients, do you think there is an understanding of the restrictions in your area? understanding of the restrictions in yourarea? i understanding of the restrictions in your area ? i know understanding of the restrictions in your area? i know you are understanding of the restrictions in yourarea? i know you are in understanding of the restrictions in your area? i know you are in north london so like most of england, you are in the medium category, but do you think your patients understand what they can and can't do? think they do because i think the rule of six has been really clear and that has been very good. i was pleased to hear yesterday with the announcement of the new levels with the new tiers that people felt we were like this and we had to behave unless we moved up and we had to behave unless we moved up intoa and we had to behave unless we moved up into a higher tier so i think people in the medium tear can even see it as a warning sign and we have to be very careful. i think that in itself should temper our behaviour and make us act to really suppress and make us act to really suppress and reduce viral transmission. what about your knowledge of the wider health service? we saw some of the nightingale hospital services put on standby in various parts of the country for what might happen. do you think this health services in good shape at the moment are you concerned about what we might see in the coming weeks and months?” concerned about what we might see in the coming weeks and months? i am concerned. i had to have some very honest conversations yesterday with patients about waiting for cataract operations. about waiting for physiotherapy to get them back on their feet. there certainly is an issue within primary care where i work. i think my hospital colleagues are ready, they are already obviously looking after covid patients and understandably very concerned about what is to come. there are definitely issues with people not able to access the healthcare they need so i would, as everybody else has, really encourage people to speak to their gp if they're worried about anything or to attend a annie and if the services aren't available, we will try and help you elsewhere. —— a&e. aren't available, we will try and help you elsewhere. -- a&e. is a something we have been speaking about for many months, there are all sorts of studies looking at whether you are able to get coronavirus for a second time if you had it once ready and a paper published in the la ncet ready and a paper published in the lancet said they have found a patient that has been infected twice. what does that tell us? he is actually the fifth case now around the world of somebody who has been rei nfected the world of somebody who has been reinfected and tested and they can see from the genetic studies he has had sars covid two twice. bearing in mind the millions of people who have been infected actually, we have seen five have had a reinfection, it is a very small number. i don't think we should read too much into it. even with other infections where we assume that you only have it once, there will always be cases of people who do get reinfected and i'm quite optimistic that after almost a year now of covid, i think we would have seen if there had a strong signal that people can get reinfected in the short—term. that people can get reinfected in the short-term. ok, good to talk to you, as the short-term. ok, good to talk to you , as ever. the short-term. ok, good to talk to you, as ever. have a great day, thank you for being with us this morning. sally is here to talk about all the sports. we've got a big interview coming up just after 7:30 this morning with arsene wenger. can you believe it is 2a years since hejoined arsenal? remember those headlines? "arsene who?" the rest, as they say, is history. he was at arsenal for 22 years. he won three premier league titles, the fa cup a record seven times and he also managed that great invicibles side who went an entire season unbeaten. he left in 2018 but still has loads of opinons on the game. he's been talking about this controversial idea to shake up english football dubbed ‘project big picture', which would see the premier league give more money to support the football league. the premier league, at some stage, you have to help the lower clubs in the lower leagues to help them survive. and maybe you need strict control management to get them financially survive at the lower levels. when you go to a country, you have to a cce pt when you go to a country, you have to accept the tradition of the culture. finn russell is back in the scotland rugby union squad, after he and head coach gregor townsend buried their differences. russell was suspended for a breach of team protocol and missed the six nations games at the beginning of the year. he left the scotland camp for a drinking session and failed to make it to training the next day. he's in a ito—man squad for the autumn internationals and their final, delayed, six nations match. we have a date for anthonyjoshua's next defence of his heavyweight title — it'll be held on the 12th december, according to the man he's due to fight. joshua was supposed to take on kubrat pulev injune, but it was postponed because of the pandemic. on his website the bulgarian said the date was "official, no way back, no postponement, no rescheduling" but we're yet to have confirmation from the joshua camp. contrasting fortunes for british players at the st petersburg open tennis. good win for cameron norrie, who beat taylor fritz of the united states — a man ranked 47 places above him in the world rankings. that takes norrie through to the last 16. and we thought we were going to have another briton through after dan evans took the first set against stan wawrinka, and earned three match points in the second. but he eventually lost in three sets. and the huge hits keep coming in the indian premier league. this is the south african ab de villiers walloping it not just into the stand but beyond it, and onto the road outside. the ball hit not one, but two passing cars. it has been great to watch that, hasn't it? lots of you watching yesterday have been in touch about our documentary with rob burrow — the leeds rhinos rugby league player who is living with mnd. thankyou for all your lovely comments. from me and the burrow family, too. because of the government announcements last night the film is now on bbc two at 7pm tonight and is repeated on bbc one at 1:15 on saturday afternoon — ahead of the challenge cup final. it will also be available on the iplayer. for everyone in touch wondering when it is on, it is tonight at bbc two. evenif it is on, it is tonight at bbc two. even if your sky boxes haven't caught up. it will be on tonight. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. what is happening out there, carol? quite a lot actually, dan. good morning, everybody. for many of us, a cloudy day, some rain, showers and risk wins if you are thinking that is the way forward it is not because as we head from tomorrow onwards, it is going to turn that bit drier and it is going to remain chilly and they will be some drizzle coming out of the thick cloud. low pressure still dominating the weather, sinking south. you can see this great big arc of a weather front. each end of it in the south—east and the north is producing some rain for top the northern end sinking south, the southern end is moving west but it has been producing some rain through the course of the night. nothing too heavy, some surface water spray on the roads. first ring this morning to watch out for. and as we go through the course of the day, you can see we hang onto a fair bit of cloud. some of us will see some sunshine stop the rain in scotla nd some sunshine stop the rain in scotland sinking south and the rain in east anglia and kent which has been heavy in kent is going to be drifting further west. the showers we have pushing down towards the channel islands so it will brighten up channel islands so it will brighten up later across the south for northern ireland, after a cold start, we are looking at some sunshine. temperatures picking up. we are looking at highs today of 13 and nothing to write home about. if you add on a risk wins, it will feel a lot colder. through this evening and overnight, rain coming in across the north of the country. some showers in the south but equally they will be some clear skies around. in sheltered glens in scotla nd around. in sheltered glens in scotland and in the shelter under clear skies the west of northern ireland, we could see temperatures dip low enough for a touch of frost. these temperatures you see here are indicative of what you can expect in towns and cities. then eventually we say goodbye to our low pressure and as we head towards the end of the week, we are looking at high pressure taking over which means we will have things more settled. but a fairly cloudy high so it will be bright at times with a little bit of sunshine but quite a bit of cloud as well. before that, though, on wednesday, still this risk north—easterly wind, blowing in some showers. especially in the east but some of them will make progress in land. possibly as far west as the south—west of england. these will be the exception rather than the rule. as you can see, not a lot of luh on this chart so tomorrow they will be more dry weather than wet. temperatures 10—to about 15 with light winds. as we had on through thursday, friday, saturday and sunday, you can see the picture. it is mostly dry. don't forget to some of the thick cloud will produce some drizzle but temperatures by day, 11, 12 and 13. by night, under clear skies, some of us could see some frost and also some fog. oh, fog. so we now know different restrictions will apply to different parts of england to try to stop the spread of coronavirus. every area will be classified in three tiers as being on medium, high or very high alert. breakfast'sjohn maguire rounds up the reaction from different corners of the country. england is now a 3— tier society. under the toughest restrictions of the people of the liverpool city region. they are in tier three with a threat level designated is very high. the city centre as a whole is one ecosystem. if you shut down pubs one ecosystem. if you shut down pubs on top of that, you give another reason to people not to come to the city centre which is going to put the city centre under a shutdown scenario. households can't mix, travel in and out of the area is restricted and pubs are not serving food. betting shops and gyms will have to close. i think it will be catastrophic for industry as a hole. i feel a lot of trainers might move to otherjobs and never come back to actually the industry itself. tier two, hi threat, applies to those areas that already have some additional rules. here in birmingham for the past month, people from different households have been banned from eating socially within their homes. that restriction, because this is now a tier to area, will be extended to hospitality also, so no mixing in restaurants, cafe ‘s or buyers. do you think it will make much of a difference to you? will make much of a difference to you ? yeah will make much of a difference to you? yeah i think it will, i did have some plans on saturday, i'm not going to lie, with my friends, so i won't be able to go out with them now. we've probably never been safer. i was in the pub on saturday, you go in, you sit down, you're not going to go to the pub with a random stranger so ijust think it's easy pickings and it's going to cause a lot of problems for people's mental health. i think it is a bit harsh at the moment but i understand we have to obviously go with what the government is saying but it's only going to increase, i guess, if we don't. people want to start getting back to normal and we are going the other way so instead of things getting better and going back to normal, people are going to have to start restricting themselves again andi start restricting themselves again and i can't see that's going to go down very well. it's difficult, we know in this situation, nobody asked for it but the way i look at it as a person is that i could be helping save someone's life. manchester also finds itself in the middle tier as does newcastle. it is appropriate these businesses stay open if they can perform properly under the restrictions which seems to me like they can do. it's a really for everyone. i feel bad for the people in liverpool who aren't really going to have the same experience. it's good for us. this is our summer holidays so we didn't want to have to cut it short and go back to london so we are quite happy. it's worse up london so we are quite happy. it's worse up there, so this is good for us. worse up there, so this is good for us. the highest infection rate in the country is in nottingham but the city escapes the most stringent rules, for now. the government have left us in no doubt that they could well be imposing the very high alert levels of tier three if things don't change in nottingham. an tier one with immediate —— medium threat level covers most of england like here in exeter where the rule of six remains as to —— does the ten o'clock closing time for pubs. as the virus seems to have targeted certain areas, then the new rules will follow, introduced in an attempt to control the spread. it's not easy, but it is here to say for the foreseeable future at least. john mcguire, bbc news, birmingham. let's talk about those continued changes. with us now is the director of the national institute for health research, professor tom solomon to give us a view on the escalation of restrictions. who are of course in liverpool which is now a very high tier three, different restrictions. what do you think of those restrictions? do they go far enough? i think we will ultimately have to have more restrictions. given there are rumours, the fact we still have our restau ra nts rumours, the fact we still have our restaurants open is something positive and pubs are serving full meals so i wouldn't be surprised if things do become tight over the coming weeks and months. is it clear on what criteria that would happen? i think the key thing is going to be the number of patients in hospitals. we know the numbers are going up in the community, particularly among younger people, and we know that spills over into older people and people at risk and it's those that mostly end up coming to hospital and i think the critical thing will be, can the hospitals cope? in liverpool, things have gotten quite tight which is why we are at tier three level in the high amount of circulating virus. we've seen other places and regions with high levels that are not in tier three. what do you make of that? like i said, it's more thanjust you make of that? like i said, it's more than just the amount of virus circulating, it's the impact. keeping some emergency services going which didn't happen in the first lockdown. the nightingale hospital, that will be a big help. the nightingales, are they to go?” understand they are gearing up, they are not admitting patients yet but they will be in the coming days and we. it's interesting to see what sage was advising. they were talking about test and trace, it was only having a marginal impact and would likely to —— decline further unless the system expanded. what is your assessment of test and trace? clearly, if tested was working really well, we wouldn't need these kind of restrictions. these are blanket restrictions because you don't know who is in fact did, you don't know who is in fact did, you don't have to restrict what everybody can do but if the test and trace everybody can do but if the test and tra ce syste m everybody can do but if the test and trace system is working well, as soon as somebody became a positive, all the people around became isolated and it would stop the spread. it's not having as big an impact as we needed to. looking at the other recommendations, they talked, didn't they, and i'm sure you've seen it, about a circuit breaker. we described —— it's been described as a short period of lot down. would that have made a difference? that would have made a difference. what the government is trying to do is restrict measures without having a complete lockdown. if you do have a bigger lot down, you get control quicker. the question really is what we want as a society and what decisions are made for us. what we currently got is measured restriction, it won't have as much impact and it won't go longer. i'll be very surprised if it doesn't ramp up a bit further and an alternative approach would have been, let's have a sharp look down again for been, let's have a sharp look down againfora been, let's have a sharp look down again for a short period of a few weeks so things will be under control again by the time christmas comes. there is a stark reminder from the prime minister, more people have been treated impossible with covid than when we went into full lock down. exactly. we always knew winter would be worse than sprague had been in this is proving to be the case but the differences we now have a better understanding of who gets sick, in march and february, we didn't know who gets sick. people with other illnesses get sick. we have treatments that we didn't have it all. we are much better at treating patients with this disease now. although the hospital numbers will go up, the debts should not go up will go up, the debts should not go up in the same way they did previously because you do have treatments so i think this is all about hospital capacity and clearly what we don't want is lots of people in hospital corridors waiting for intensive care beds. that is not the kind of healthcare system we want thatis kind of healthcare system we want that is what the restrictions are going to have to do. on a personal note, we talked to you on bbc request for many months. i remember when you are here in the studio and one time when you were really feeling the pressure. is it the same right now? it's not the same as it was then. the difference now, we know what we're dealing with. we know what we're dealing with. we know how to treat them. the biggest treasuries people who are managing hospitals, looking up hospitals, trying to work out how many covid patients we have, what's going to happen, what are we going to do with our routine care, cancer care, cardiac patients. those other guys, my heart goes out to them. they are having to manage this situation on the ground. on the more patients there are, the busier we are. it's really interesting to talk to you again. sally mentioned a few minutes ago, we've had such a huge response, after that incredibly moving robert burrow coverage. we were inundtated with so many messages and videos — that we thought we'd put a few of them together — take a look. it's quite sad to see how he's deteriorated. and what it did, it sort of reminded me of my mum, back in 1976 when she finally passed away from the disease. and really, the strength rob is showing for his family. my mum tried to do likewise. when i looked at rob, all i could see was my mum and the deterioration in rob and at that stage of the disease, that's howl in rob and at that stage of the disease, that's how i remember my mum. just to see the life being taken mum. just to see the life being ta ken away, mum. just to see the life being taken away, the dignity being taken away. it was really hard to cope with. it made me feel really upset when i saw the piece on the news and it made me cry and ijust imagine myself in his body and how hard it would be, and eventually he couldn't even talk and talk to his family so he had to get the wheelchair and have this special thing so he could talk and it just have this special thing so he could talk and itjust made me so emotional and i wanted to do this walk so i can raise money for people like him so that it's not so hard for them. thank you to every one of you who has been in touch. the full documentary, produced by bbc breakfast and bbc sport: rob burrow: my year with mnd" is now on bbc two at 7pm tonight, and is repeated on bbc 1 at 1:15 on saturday afternoon — ahead of the challenge cup final. sally and a small team from request have spent time with him and his family. it will also be available on the iplayer. the main slot is tonight, seven o'clock on bbc two. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. i'm tara welsh. city hall has warned new restrictions banning different households from mixing indoors could be imposed at any time. it's expected the capital will be placed on medium alert level, the lowest point on the new three tier system. but a spokesman for the mayor warned last night that the capital could be moved upwards very quickly, potentially even this week. reports of domestic servitude in london have risen by 80% according to new figures. the majority of migrant domestic workers are women, mostly from south east asia. they often work long hours for little money and are vulnerable to emotional, physical and sexual abuse. we believe there are tens of thousands of potential victims right here in the uk, and they will be involved in sexual exploitation, criminal exploitation, domestic servitude and forced labour. unfortunately, it happens in every town, city and on every high street, and places like london will have significantly more because of the size of the city. parts of london plan to scrap their so called low traffic neighbourhoods, after roads saw a major surge in congestion. the scheme aims to promote cycling and walking but because of the pandemic, more people are using their cars. lewisham council has said that the current measures aren't working as expected and they will be opening roads up. the south london gallery has won one of the biggest awards in the industry. it's one of the winners of art fund museum of the year. five winners were selected and will share £200,000 let's take a look at the travel situation now. there's a good service on the tubes this morning. in eltham, the a20 sidcup road has one lane closed eastbound at southwood road. that's for repairs to a burst water main. in mill hill, at fiveways corner there's no right turn from the a111 to the a1 because of a fault with the traffic lights. now the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. now we have got quite a lot of cloud around this morning, just one or two brighter spells at least to start with, but the cloud will take over as we head further through. now, we will see some showers, some of those quite heavy, feeling through them for now a north—westerly breeze. feel very pleasant. heavier this afternoon, perhaps merging a little as well, maximum temperature between 10 and 12 celsius. now, overnight we're still going to see showers feeding in but, gradually, as they slip away, we will see the wind feed in from the north—east and it's going to feel rather chilly but that breeze will strengthen through course of the night, the minimum temperature between 7 and 9 celsius. we could see some brighter spells first thing but it's going to be a largely cloudy day, a drier day, if you wish i was around for the course of wednesday. fewer showers for the rest of this week. however, not too much on the way of sunshine. quite a lot of cloud and yes, the temperature is still feeling quite chilly. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. bye for now. good morning, welcome to breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. 0ur headlines today: just hours after borisjohnson announced new coronavirus restrictions in england — it's revealed that government scientists called for tougher action three weeks ago. downing street has defended its response as robust and targeted — but england's chief medical officer warns the new measures may not be enough. i am not confident and nor is anybody confident that the tier three proposals, for the highest rates, if we get the absolute base case and nothing more, would be enough to get on top of it. the latest job figures the latestjob figures are out in the next few minutes. will there be a rise in the number of people looking for work and what are the implications of the latest alert system and hospitality? an industry already on its knees. three weeks to go until the us election and donald trump holds his first rally since being treated for coronavirus, declaring he's in perfect shape. i feel so powerful... i'll walk into that audience... cheering and applause. arsene wenger opens up about his 22 years at arsenal. he talks about his love for the club, why he left, and has his say on that radical plan to shake up english football. for many of us, a dry note chilly weather and rain in the forecast. i will tell you where in about ten minutes. it's tuesday, october 13th. our top story: it's emerged that the government's top scientific advisers called for much tougher coronavirus restrictions — including a two week lockdown across england — at a meeting in september. that was three weeks before the prime minister's latest measures were announced yesterday. the new system will see all areas in england placed into three different categories of restrictions from tomorrow — but do not go as far as the scientists' recommendations. 0ur political correspondent helen catt has the story. life in the liverpool city region is about to change significantly, again. the only place in england so far to be put straight into the highest of the new bands of restrictions. but millions of other people will see changes too because the virus continues to spread. these figures are flashing at us like dashboard warnings in a passengerjet, and we must act now. the new three—tier system for england will replace current local lockdown restrictions, and comes into place on wednesday. most of england will be put on medium alert level where the rule of six and 10pm hospitality curfew will continue. some areas will be put at the high level. no household mixing indoors anywhere but the rule of six still applies outdoors. the most severe level of alert is very high. there will be no mixing of households anywhere. pubs and bars will be closed unless they provide a substantial meal. but... i am not confident nor is anybody confident that the tier three proposals for the highest rates, if we did the absolute base case and nothing more, would be enough to get on top of it. that is why there is a lot of flexibility. so in liverpool, local authorities have agreed they will also shut leisure centres, gyms, betting shops and casinos. residents will be encouraged not to leave the area and visitors told to stay away. but it's now emerged that the scientists advising the government had said in september that a much tougher batch of measures was needed then, to slow the spread of the virus in england. labour says the government needs to explain why it ignored its own scientists. downing street says the actions it took last month, like the rule of six, were robust but targeted and proportionate, and it followed extensive engagement. and even those have drawn criticism. in parts of the west midlands which are going into the high alert level, households will no longer be able to socialise in pubs and restaurants. it is very disappointing. it's my view not the right decision both for the health and the livelihoods of citizens across the west midlands. and quite simply, there is very, very little evidence that locations like this pass on the disease. a decision will be made on new lockdown measures in wales in the next few days. in northern ireland, health officials are calling for decisive action. and in scotland, nicholas sturgeon says she will draw up her own tiered framework towards the end of the month. helen catt, bbc news. so what do these rules mean in practice? danjohnson is in liverpool, an area that has the tightest restrictions. breakfast'sjohn maguire is in birmingham which is on ‘high' alert. and keith doyle is in london which is on ‘medium' alert. let's cross to dan first. dan, the restrictions apply to the liverpool city region — home to 1.5 million people — how worried are people there? both sides of the river mersey are covered by this and that is because infection rates here has been high. the numbers of people having to go into hospital are some of the highest in the country, too. people we re highest in the country, too. people were braced for this and prepared for further action were braced for this and prepared forfurther action but were braced for this and prepared for further action but that doesn't mean it has been accepted without question. people are wondering why the liveable city region is the only pa rt the liveable city region is the only part of the country to go into the highest tier —— liverpool. it is not pa rt highest tier —— liverpool. it is not part of the country with the highest case numbers at the moment so there are some questions about how these decisions have been made and the mayor for the city region said last night quite clearly that he thought these rules had been by the government without the right support package for the people who will be affected. he wanted to agree more money, more support for the workers, a hit when those bars and gyms have to close. some people are questioning why that is, what the data is, whether it has been done fairly. some people say there —— are there other things to play? people wondering if they have been singled out, talking about a north— south divide, when we are not looking at a national lockdown covering more places given the spread of the virus across parts of the country because i think we will hear more frustration and anger about the way these rules are being applied. let ‘s go to birmingham wherejohn maguire is an area of high alert. morning, john. do things change for the people of birmingham? the biggest change here is the one that stands out, the one that we heard mayor of the west midlands talk about in the news reportjust at the beginning of the top of the hour was the fact that there was now the biggest change being that for the last month, since the middle of september, people have been prevented from mixing with separate households within somebody ‘s house. they were able to meet in pubs, cafes a nd restau ra nts. they were able to meet in pubs, cafes and restaurants. that will now change after these restrictions. we have tier one, two, three and we have tier one, two, three and we have to get rid —— used to this language was above because there is no low area of risk. you either get medium, large or extra—large in coffee shops, there is no low area. as is the virus at the moment. talking to people here after the prime minister ‘s announcement in the house of commons, a mixed reaction, of course. some people saying they went to a pub last night and it is a secure environment, it has to be, you have to do contact tracing, you have got to sit on separate tables, socially distant, you have to wear a mask? so why face other restrictions? 0thers you have to wear a mask? so why face other restrictions? others say yes, we have to adhere to this. it is affecting our way of life but of course what it is doing in many cases is protecting people ‘s lives. john, thank you for that. picture in birmingham.john john, thank you for that. picture in birmingham. john mentioned medium so let ‘s go to an area which is medium which is tier one and this is all new language, isn't it, keith doyle? what does it mean in london? good morning from the centre london. here in london this is tier one, this is currently the lowest risk right across the uk. meaning that there are no new restrictions but the restrictions already in place remain and that means the rule of six applies and the curfew on bars and restau ra nts applies and the curfew on bars and restaurants closing at ten o'clock, that applies. i say for now because there is a real chance that could change and london could move into tier two, hi, within days. that is what is come from the london method it can't. he has said the number of cases is rapidly rising to the virus is now spreading very quickly in every corner of london and while it right now london is in the tier one, medium, he says london should understand this could change very quickly, potentially even this week. when you look at the figures, the rates across london on average is 78 new infections per 100,000 but it varies widely across the capital stock in the west it is as high as 119 parts of the south—east, it is just 51, but the understanding is of any new restrictions being brought m, any new restrictions being brought in, they will be brought in on a london wide basis but for now, the rules and in london, people can meet asa rules and in london, people can meet as a rule of six indoors or outdoors, work from home if you can, schools open, shops remain open but you must wear face coverings in shops or public transport. that is the weight is now but as i said, that could change within days. listen, for the moment, thank you, thatis listen, for the moment, thank you, that is best to say, isn't it? thank you. as louisa said, new language to get used to this morning. the latest unemployment figures have just been released, nina can tell us more. good morning dan and louise. in manchester, talking about the latest measures for hospitality, taking a look at the unemployment figures. we have been looking out for the percentage of people who found themselves out of work, looking for work in the three months up to august so there is a three—week lag in the numbers was not that is up to 4.5% of the working population. that is up reasonably significantly from 4.196 is up reasonably significantly from 4.1% to the three months up to the end ofjuly and up from 3.9% from the month before that so we do consider that to be as significant increase was not as for the number of people claiming benefits, the number of claimants has gone up slightly, it is about 2.7 million, thatis slightly, it is about 2.7 million, that is for the month of september so slightly more recent figures at 2.7 million, slight increase on the month before. the truth is, though, andi month before. the truth is, though, and i cannot stress this enough, like i say, i say every day, this is the first month of the figures where employers had to start contributing national insurance and pensions for their employees. this is before they had to start giving the tenant 40% to top up the furlough scheme. at the moment we still have hundreds of thousands of people still on the furlough scheme in hospitality alone. we won't know the full extent, the full significance of the impact of the pandemic bubbly until 0ctober, until the end of october, november time. it will be christmas before we see the impact of people coming off the furlough scheme at the end of october. so yes, that top number4.5%, an the end of october. so yes, that top number 4.5%, an increase of 0.4% but really, that hides the truth which in reality is said to be a lot leak. thank you for that analysis, nina. less than two weeks after announcing he had covid—19, president donald trump has returned to the campaign trail. mr trump told an enthusiastic crowd in florida that he could ‘kiss everyone‘ in the audience as he was possibly now immune to the disease. nomia iqbal was there. they queued for hours to witness the return of their homecoming hero. covid precautions in place, but most in the crowd were maskless. as was their commander—in—chief, a beaming president tossed out maga themed masks to the crowd — a retrospective gesture from a leader still recovering from the virus. one thing with me, the nice part, i went through it, now they say i‘m immune. i feel so powerful. i‘ll walk into that audience. cheering and applause. i‘ll walk in there, i‘ll kiss everyone in that audience. president trump landed in florida only hours after his doctor had said he tested negative on consecutive days, despite questions around the validity of the test. regardless, he was keen to show strength. you know the risk groups, you know the older people. see fortunately, i‘m not an old person. i‘m very young and i‘m in such perfect shape. cheering and applause. it was a bravado performance that dwelt more on his own recovery with few reminders that the pandemic has led to more than 211,000 deaths in america. all chant: four more years! in the hour—long speech, his voice was hoarse at times but his performance was a crowd pleaser. very happy trump‘s back and doing well again. trump is a good president. he knows what this country needs. this was classic donald trump — back in the environment he feels most comfortable in, on stage, speaking directly to his faithful supporters. the question is, withjust three weeks to go before election day, can he attract enough new voters to get back into the white house? nomia iqbal, bbc news, 0rlando. is coming up to quarter past seven and carol has a lovely... the moon looked amazing this morning, carol. it is a beautiful weather watcher ‘s picture. morning, carol. it is a beautiful weather watcher 's picture. thanks to wendy for sending that in. some of us are starting off with clear skies. today there is still some rain in the forecast but after today. a dryer. it will still stay chilly by day and by night. what we got today is low pressure dominating the weather. this ended producing rain. in between, there are some clear skies. sinking further across northern england into north wales. the rain currently in kent and east anglia continuing to drift in the direction of the home counties. it will dry direction of the home counties. it willdry up direction of the home counties. it will dry up with fewer showers across south—west england through the day. the same for much of scotland. quite brisk winds as well. temperatures 10— 13 degrees. who this evening and overnight, hanging onto the rain, still coming westwards and pushing down towards the channel islands further south. in between, some clear skies. damages falling low enough. possibly in sheltered areas to the west of northern ireland, a touch of cost. i will have the weather for the rest of the week in more detail in about half—an—hour. of the week in more detail in about half-an-hour. we look forward to it. see you at about 745. professor chris whitty said lockdowns were designed for local areas but warned even the toughest new measures may not be enough. i‘m not confident noise anybody confident that the tier three proposals for the highest rates, if we did the absolute base case and nothing more, would be enough to get on top of it and that is why there isa on top of it and that is why there is a lot of taxability in the tier three level for local authorities guided by the directors of public health were absolutely superb around the country to actually go up that range so that they can do significantly more because the base will not be sick —— sufficient. that is the professional view. joining us now is sir mark walport, the uk government‘s former chief scientific advisor and member of sage. thank you forjoining us. you‘re not speaking on behalf of sage today but let us talk about what chris whitty said yesterday, the base case of tier three is not enough. would you agree? the evidence is that we are going into a second wave. as eve ryo ne going into a second wave. as everyone knows, there are more patients in hospital than there were just for lockdown happened in march. we know that in order to control this, we need to keep people apart as far as possible. we also know, actually, before the pandemic, the average number of contacts, it was about ten people each day. at the peak of lockdown, it had dropped to just each person being in contact with half a person on average. more than a tenfold drop. contacts have slipped back since then. let's talk about the idea sage talked about, they talked about hey circuit breaker, a short period of lot down to return to low levels. in your view, would that have been the right thing to do? the right thing to do clearly is to reduce the social contact and that was chris whitty‘s point. they gave entirely consistent briefings. when chris said, i think the word was flexibility, that was a euphemism for a need to go up the range to make sure where there are large numbers of transmissions, they need to be reduced quite significantly. it is ultimately about producing social contact. we are doing it in a slightly more difficult context. it‘s a very tight balancing act that our politicians are having to go through which is the general agreement that the harms are very severe so we do need to keep children in schools. as far as possible, we need to avoid economic damage which involves keeping jobs going where it can be done safely. it means that in other aspects, particularly our social life, there have to be more restrictions.” particularly our social life, there have to be more restrictions. i want to look at some of the other restrictions sage was recommending, bars, cafe ‘s, restaurants, indoor gems and personal services such as hairdressers. that‘s not what is happening at the moment but you see a point where it might have to happen. it's clear it might have to happen. it's clear it might have to happen. the numbers are going up significantly. we consider nightingale hospital starting to open and you only have to look at what is happening in other countries across europe to see the pressure that intensive can —— intensive care beds are under, everywhere cases are rising. we do know they can be kept under control but it‘s a challenging thing to do. do you think it's a mistake not to take that advice, three weeks ago? it's the job of sage and scientific advisors, it‘s thejob of the sage and scientific advisors, it‘s the job of the scientists to give the job of the scientists to give the politicians the evidence. they are the ones to decide ultimately. they are listening to the evidence, i‘ve got no doubt about that. they have their difficult political decisions to make. can we also talk about test and trace. sage talked about test and trace. sage talked about that. is it doing a good enoughjob in about that. is it doing a good enough job in your view? in a sense, you can‘t do a good enoughjob. in other words, we need effective testing and tracing if we are going to really bring this under control. it doesn‘t do it on its own, it‘s the behaviours that follow test and tracing. the good news was announced yesterday that healthcare staff across worst affected parts of the country will now get regular testing, even if they are asymptomatic. 0ne testing, even if they are asymptomatic. one of the things we don‘t want repeated as an epidemic actually in the care system itself. but i think every scientist wishes the delivery is as effective as it possibly can be. i think it‘s the logistics of the delivery. we know also that more people are being treated in hospital than we would when we went into full lockdown. what is your assessment of where we are right now. there is no doubt it‘s not good news in terms of the number of cases but we know a lot more about this disease, treatments are more of the live, so at a basic level, we know how to manage the oxygen requirements of patients with severe disease better and how to do the ventilation better and have also discovered through the recovery trialed. giving anti-inflammatory drugs later such as those, we can test earlier on and there is evidence that antiviral drugs such as remdesivir are effective but it is still a very dangerous infection and we hope the vaccine is coming down the line that we need to be cautious, it‘s not going to be here in the next month or so. everyone wishes the trials to be successful. iaman wishes the trials to be successful. i am an immunologist by background, i don‘t think there is any fundamental reason why it would be possible to make a vaccine but making vaccines has never been an easy thing and never in history has there been an attempt to make a vaccine quite this quickly. it‘s impossible, actually. we‘ll be putting those questions to the community secretary soon. let‘s find out what the labour party will be doing different. let‘s speak now to shadow health secretary, jonathan ashworth, who joins us from westminster. thank you for being with us this morning. i‘m sure you are listening there to some martin walpole. and we started that sage advice, published in september 21, advising the government for a 2— week for lockdown known as a circuit maker. is that something the labour party would have supported ? is that something the labour party would have supported? would you have gone down that road? it‘s true we have to reduce social contact, that is how this virus spreads. i was quite alarmed when i saw the sage minutes come out because they came out after the prime minister ‘s ‘s conference, he didn‘t allude to them, and he always tells us we are following the silent site —— the science. i dare say the tory community secretary will say we a lwa ys community secretary will say we always follow the science, well, quite self—evidently, they rejected significant recommendations here from the scientists so we need to understand why. yesterday, they‘ve announced more restrictions on hospitality. we support that. we know that social contact, mixing is how this virus spreads, and i‘m concerned they didn‘t go far enough and when you look at hospital admissions across greater manchester, you can see this virus is out of control. there are more and more people going into critical care. they should have gone further yesterday and put more restrictions in place while at the same time giving the appropriate economic support as well. i think the question today is, ministers need to tell is why they rejected that advice to go further because quite clearly last night, as you said in the package, chris whitty, the cmo, hinting that he didn‘t think the restrictions would be enough to get control of this very dangerous virus. we had a government spokesperson responded to that sage advice, we took robust and targeted action including introducing the rule of six, restrictions to hospitality opening hours and advice for people to work from home alongside tougher enforcement so took account of that macro expect sage advice. theirjob is to listen to the scientific advice, but there aren‘t economists on sage, they have to balance that with care for the economy as well. you are right, they‘ve cajoled people in trying to work from home where they can but people‘s social interactions have increased on hospitality is a big pa rt increased on hospitality is a big part of that. if your priority is to keep schools open, and that is our priority, and do not overwhelm your national health service, get the nhs mobilised to do some of the care, you have to take other actions to reduce restrictions which is why we support the restrictions on hospitality. the health of the nation and the economic health of the nation go hand—in—hand. you can‘t have a good growing economy u nless can‘t have a good growing economy unless people are healthy and people actually be healthy unless the economy is growing and the dividend is equally distributed so they go together. it‘s not an either or, the two sides of the same coin. do you find yourself in a top position? tonight‘s vote on the 10pm hospitality curfew, because if you don‘t support it, there are no measures in place, so you are sort of forced into supporting it. what is your position on that? it‘s because of this peculiar way in which parliament works sometimes. it's which parliament works sometimes. it‘s an all or nothing vote. sometimes the government will bring laws to parliament but this is not one way you can amend it. it‘s really frustrating. we don‘t think the way in which england are implementing the 10pm rule is satisfactory. this hard stop at ten o‘clock has seen people crowding to city centres and onto public transport. this is what we‘re in wales. banning off—licence sales at ten o‘clock as well? if we could have amended the legislation, that puts an amendment forward, because of the way this particular rule has come into parliament. we are not able to do that. even though there are able to do that. even though there a re clearly able to do that. even though there are clearly problems with its implementation, that is better than having longer drinking hours, to be honest. those watching yesterday would have heard him in the commons talking about asking for scientific evidence to see why there is a backing for that rule. has that been produced by the government yet? actually, the government have said, and the scientists have said, you‘ve got to look at the whole set of policies and interventions in the round. they are arguing that by containing the hours that people can drink, you are having some impact. it's drink, you are having some impact. it‘s only a marginal impact. that‘s what the scientists say. when you are fighting a virus like this with speed and severity, every little thing you can do helps, but the decision —— decisions around closing hospitality, they should have gone further. look at greater manchester‘s hospital admissions, this virus is really serious. you‘ve got to get the economic support in place. but i think the government are in the end going to have to go further. heading to winter. the worst bits of winter yet in terms of the pressure we see on the health service, as we head into that winter, things are getting really serious. we will see what the government say about that. we have the community secretary here in just a few minutes. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i‘m tara welsh. city hall has warned new restrictions banning different households from mixing indoors could be imposed at any time. it‘s expected the capital will be placed on the lowest point on the new 3—tier system. but a spokesman for the mayor has warned that the capital could be moved upwards very quickly, potentially even this week. reports of domestic servitude in london have risen by 80% according to new figures. the majority of migrant domestic workers are women and are vulnerable to emotional, physical and even sexual abuse. we believe there are tens of thousands of potential victims right here in the uk, and they will be involved in sexual exploitation, criminal exploitation, domestic servitude and forced labour. unfortunately, it happens in every town, city and on every high street, and places like london will have significantly more because of the size of the city. parts of london plan to scrap their so called low traffic neighbourhoods, after roads saw a major surge in congestion.. the scheme aims to promote cycling and walking but because of the pandemic, more people are using thier cars. lewisham council has said that the current measures ‘aren‘t working as expected and they will be opening roads up. the south london gallery has won one of the biggest awards in the industry. it‘s one of the winners of art fund museum of the year. five winners were selected and will share £200,000. let‘s take a look at the travel situation now. there‘s a good service on the tubes this morning. in eltham, the a20 sidcup road has one lane closed eastbound at southwood road. that‘s for repairs to a burst water main. busy around vauxhall because of the ongoing closure of vauxhall bridge now the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. now we have got quite a lot of cloud around this morning, just one or two brighter spells at least to start with, but the cloud will take over as we head further through. now, we‘ll see some showers, some of those quite heavy, feeding through them for now a north—westerly breeze. if you‘re stuck underneath thos showers, it won‘t feel very pleasant. heavier this afternoon, perhaps merging together a little as well, maximum temperature between 10 and 12 celsius. now, overnight we‘re still going to see showers feeding in but, gradually, as they slip away, we will see the wind feed from the north—east and it‘s going to feel rather chilly but that breeze will strengthen through course of the night, minimum temperature between 7 and 9 celsius. again, we could see some brighter spells first thing tomorrow but it‘s going to be a largely cloudy day, a drier day, if you wish for the course of wednesday. in fact, fewer showers for the rest of this week. however, not too much on the way of sunshine. quite a lot of cloud and yes, the temperatures still feeling quite chilly. i‘m back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in an hour. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. it‘s emerged that the government‘s scientific advisors called for much tougher coronavirus restrictions, including a two week lockdown, to be introduced three weeks ago in england. from tomorrow, a new three—tier alert system comes into effect, but the restrictions do not go as far as the scientists‘ recommendations. labour has called on the government to explain why it ignored its own scientific advisors. let‘s speak now to communities and local government secretary, robertjenrick, whojoins us from westminster. good morning to you for the thank you forjoining us. let 's talk about this sage advice from three weeks ago, recommended a circuit maker. why not follow that advice? well, we did take robust action at that time. remember, that is when we clarified the rule of six. that is when we brought in the 10pm curfew for pubs and restaurants which i have discussed on this programme many times. we did take action then but we reviewed that and that has contributed to the decision the prime minister made an announced yesterday to introduce the three crew one approach with further measures in those parts of the country where there is a high rate of the virus. —— tier three. also working closely with local leaders like the mayor of liverpool steve rotherham and joe anderson to ensure that where the number of cases is very high, we are designing measures that are going to be really effective in that community and where there is a strong support from the local leadership. i'm going to come to those tier three advice in a moment but going back to what sage was saying, you said you took robust advice but let‘s go back to what they said was not banning of all contacts within the home with members of other households and also the closure of all bars, restau ra nts, the closure of all bars, restaurants, cafes the closure of all bars, restau ra nts, cafes a nd the closure of all bars, restaurants, cafes and gyms and indoor services. for example headdresses was not that is not what you did. element we did listen to advice and we did take action but these are balanced judgements and we also have two wear that up against the economy. people 's livelihoods, education, which we made an —— we made a call on foot of also mental health, other illnesses, elective surgery that might be delayed or cancelled. we took a balanced view and that is the way we will continue to behave. by bringing forward to three tiered approach, we are able to have a clear and consistent framework across the country so that people will be able to understand approximately what the rate of infection is in their own area and what the rules are accordingly and then in those places where it is very high, whether it is a really serious problem, take further interventions. i think that is the right approach because although there is a serious situation across there is a serious situation across the uk, it is quite concentrated in a particular places will stop merseyside was particularly serious and that is why we worked so intensively over the weekend with the local leadership there to put in place the package of measures that we have put in place and the support for local people, businesses and councils there so people can weather the storm of the weeks and months ahead. we're just a message, the storm of the weeks and months ahead. we'rejust a message, esther rotherham, saying this was imposed upon him, he didn‘t agree this. rotherham, saying this was imposed upon him, he didn't agree this. we worked hard with steve rotherham and joe anderson. the two senior elect officials there in liverpool and merseyside. i actually paid tribute to them, i think we had a good working relationship over the last few days. this is the approach that people have been asking for for a long time including the leaders there. they want to be more involved. i think that is the right thing to do because we need to be designing measures that are really effective in particular places rather than blanket ones across the whole country. it means everybody stepping up and taking responsibility for the situation on the ground and i think that is what steve rotherham and joe anderson did, from the conversations we had, they recognise the serious of the situation and they worked with us to design measures and put in place the support they may need to support those measures and that is like in other areas of the country where the virus is concentrated will need to do. we know there are other areas with high infection. there are plenty of examples. let ‘s take manchester, newcastle, burnley. they are not in tier three. they are not in that high alert level. should they be? that is not the position today. we put in place measures in those communities. again designed with the local leadership. they agreed with the approach that it was right to be in acro 12. agreed with the approach that it was right to be in acro12. —— tier two. there are further restrictions that people will unfortunately have to come to terms within of those places. but that is the right place to be. of course we will continue —— keep that under review. we will continue to work with those local leaders and if they and us feel that the rate of infection is rising still further in those places then there are further steps we could take. you could ask those communities to go into tier three but we don‘t want to... communities to go into tier three but we don't want to... so you said not now but what changes to put them into tier three? well, we hope they don‘t have to. there is no plan to don‘t have to. there is no plan to do so. we hope the measures are sufficiently robust and bed down on the virus and get it back under control, to flatten the curve in those communities. we keep those under review in the purpose of the tiered approach is to show people what the path might be, the steps that we have implemented not sufficient. we‘re going to keep talking with those local leaders and they and us will be looking at the number of cases, hospitalisations, the strain on the local nhs because we wa nt the strain on the local nhs because we want to protect the nhs, it is not just about protecting we want to protect the nhs, it is notjust about protecting the nhs from covid patients, it is also ensuring it can open for everything else that matters, there are a range of things we are looking at but i wouldn‘t underestimate the measures we have now put in place. i hope they will be sufficient to take control of the situation.” they will be sufficient to take control of the situation. i want to come back to local leaders and you keep talking about local leaders was not they are tweeting this morning, steve rotherham, it was the government that decided we needed local restrictions in our area. it wasn‘t local leaders and it is just —— disingenuous for them to say that. there seems to be a complete mismatch between what you are saying stopjoe anderson is a saying let ‘s be clear, they have ignored my pleas for over a month. the government imposed lock down without a full financial package. what is going on? that is not the conversations i have had. i spoke to both of them over the course of the weekend, as have many other ministers and they have been productive relationships. everybody agrees that we want central government and local government to be working as well as possible. this is a national crisis. we should be working together as a single team and i think the leaders in liverpool did see that the number of cases was very serious. 0ne in liverpool did see that the number of cases was very serious. one of the highest in europe and actually had to be taken. that was the message they are also taking. people are seeing more patients, sadly, coming into the hospitals in merseyside as well. if we are going to have the approach of central and local working together than local leaders including the mayor ‘s will have to take responsibility. we all need to step up and lead our own communities through these challenging times. that was what steve rotherham and joe anderson did andi steve rotherham and joe anderson did and i hope it ‘s the way that other local leaders and mayors will behave in other parts of the country. let us in other parts of the country. let us talk about what chris whitty said was up in the news conference yesterday he said i am not confident and nor is anyone confident that the tier s3 proposals, if we did the absolute base case and nothing more, would we —— would be enough to get on top of it. what are the measures? what would they be and who decides? we have said there is now a framework and if you‘re in the very high category then we are open to discussing with local communities what further measures might be necessary. further restrictions might be imposed. none of us want to do that. each of these things are very difficult choices. they all seriously impact people ‘s livelihoods and their personal freedoms. we will keep it under review and the purpose of the localised approach we are adopting now is that we can actually design those taking into the particular factors at play in a certain place. we know that no part of the country is identical. the virus is different in different places in the sense that it might be taking hold in a certain setting, lancaster university or a particular part of the community. you might want to design measures which are going to be more effective in liverpool which might not be so pressing in nottingham or leicester or county durham. ithink nottingham or leicester or county durham. i think that is the approach going forward but typically, we do think the measures to be put in place now are robust. these are serious changes and it is now incumbent upon all of us to follow those as much as we possibly can and see whether they are able to bear down on the virus. let us talk about test and trace because sage is a saying, and again, this comes from three weeks ago. it was only having a marginal impact and would likely decline further unless it is expanded to keep up with rising cases. what is your response? we will keep on trying to improve the track and trace system to try to increase its scale and reach. it has improved enormously. remember, we we re improved enormously. remember, we were testing 2000 people a day. we now have capacity over 300000 and wa nt now have capacity over 300000 and want that to be 500,000 within a matter of weeks. 100,000 people have been traced as a result of this so this 700,000 people who have either been protected themselves or protected others. last week the number of contact tracing was the lowest since it started. we could a lwa ys lowest since it started. we could always do better with this. i don‘t pretend otherwise. what we‘re doing with local communities now is coupling the national track and trace service with the local as well because there is evidence and i think we can all understand this, local councils are very effective at tracing individuals in their own communities. they know the area better than others, they know how to speak to local communities, particularly the more hard to reach ones. they can go on the doorstep, go doorknocking and try to find people, take sure that they are taking the right choices themselves. that is what has happened in other places like leicester for example where i saw the council did a great job at mobilising their offices and getting them onto the doorsteps of the national approach will now be coupled with a huge effort in the areas where the virus is most concentrated i local councils to get their staff out of tracing people andi their staff out of tracing people and i hope that will lead to a significant improvement in the weeks ahead. and we also talk about cu rfews ahead. and we also talk about curfews because again they claimed that it isn‘t going to likely have a marginal impact. —— it is only likely to have a marginal impact. lot of the measures that have been taken since the start of the pandemic alone have a limited impact. without these debates in the past about masks, for example. it doesn‘t mean it‘s not important to do it. because together, these steps as a package do have such an important role in bearing down over the virus and that‘s the advice we received as and that‘s the advice we received as a government. if you‘re trying to protect education, 99% of schools open across the country, if you are trying to protect most settings where people are going to work, in order to protect people‘s livelihoods, and the economy. there will be difficult choices in some other aspects of people‘s lives and that will mean asking people to wear masks, it will mean further restrictions like the 10pm curfew in pubs and restaurants which are difficult choices but there are no easy choices facing us. you talked about so many different things, all the different measures. sage talk about not acting now, resulting in a very large epidemic with catastrophic consequences. do you think that is enough?” catastrophic consequences. do you think that is enough? i think we are ata think that is enough? i think we are at a serious point. we can‘t be complacent. we are putting in place further measures. i urge your viewers and viewers to familiarise themselves with the measures we are going to put in place this week if they are in those parts of the country and to redouble our efforts wherever we follow the basic advice, washing hands, staying apart. that is how we will try to contact —— combat this. no—one is pretending this autumn and winter will be easy. it's this autumn and winter will be easy. it‘s going to be a challenging period. we are continuing to work with our brilliant scientists in this country to regress the vaccine and better testing facilities. that‘s the way ultimately we will combat this but at the moment, we‘ve got to follow the guidance and we as a government will put in place whatever support we can to help people, particularly those people concerned about their jobs, people, particularly those people concerned about theirjobs, if people, particularly those people concerned about their jobs, if they are in some of those areas. thank you for your time here on breakfast this morning. sally is here this morning. we are hearing from one of the most recognisable men in full all. and he wasn't when he came here, the most wrecking sized person, 24 years ago this week. 24 years ago yesterday, arsene wenger took charge of his first match as the arsenal manager. he was a complete unknown when he arrived, but stayed at arsenal for 22 years — and went on to become one of the greatest managers in premier league history. he‘s been reflecting on his life and career in his new autobiography, and has been chatting tojohn watson. let‘s talk about arsenal, the club that has defined your career, your lover there as you call it. 22 years in charge, three league titles, one invincible season, seven fa cup victories, 19 consecutive seasons in which you qualified for the champions league it in those two yea rs champions league it in those two years since you left the club, you say there‘s been no connection between you and arsenal, you‘ve not been back. after everything gave the club, why is that the case? well, because i thought maybe it‘s better to ta ke because i thought maybe it‘s better to take a complete distance with the clu b to take a complete distance with the club and not to be like a shadow who is over the club, and to decide what is over the club, and to decide what is going on. we agreed on that. how do you reflect on the departure of the club now. ifeel up do you reflect on the departure of the club now. i feel up to 22 years of course, people think we have seen enough. there was a time as well when you are offered the manchester united job. i speak about that. look how much people want the trust. it was a demonstration to say how much you love at the club. when you joined arsenal, it was a difficult start. when you appointed, it led to standing on the steps at highbury stadium denying you‘re about to resign from the club as a result of allegations. what do you remember of that time? well the lies we had to face, when you go abroad, when you go abroad somewhere and you want to ta ke go abroad somewhere and you want to take a go abroad somewhere and you want to takeajob, go abroad somewhere and you want to take a job, when you want to take jobs, you have no red carpet anywhere. when you come to english put all, there is a history of having created the game. and nobody knows who you are. it is difficult. so you have to face adversity. i was prepared for that and i had nothing to hide. when the players rounds, it‘s well—documented are changes in nutrition, and there is that infamous story on some of the players, we want our mars bars. it's a lwa ys players, we want our mars bars. it's always when you find somewhere, you have to find somewhere to compromise in the local culture. interesting to note that when it came to getting thejob at arsenal, note that when it came to getting the job at arsenal, it was a game of sherrard ‘s, and you are acting out a scene from midsummer night ‘s dream. i met david dean, and maybe he thought, we not too stupid. that invincible season, only the second tea m invincible season, only the second team to go through an english top light season, does that still stand as your greatest achievement?” think it‘s the closest to perfection because it‘s not easy. somebody will have done it already. you need to maintain the focus. i respect a lot of consistency. that‘s the are you a bit of a bad loser? i am very bad loser. 0n the other hand, the bad news is, they don‘t last on our game. one of the big regrets is having children, you are 48 when you had your one and only child. is that one of your big regrets? yeah, but i believe on the other hand, to be com pletely believe on the other hand, to be completely honest, this is a job for single guys. how would you like to be remembered? what would you like to bea be remembered? what would you like to be a lasting legacy?” be remembered? what would you like to be a lasting legacy? i would say just somebody who thought of football. the clubs where i work with complete commitment, integrity. i have the desire to work very hard and to be useful in my life and to share what i‘ve learned in life, with people, with the desire to be useful. lots of you watching yesterday have been in touch about our documentary with rob burrow — the leeds rhinos rugby league player who is living with mnd. thank you for all your lovely comments. because of the government announcements last night the film is now on bbc two at 7pm tonight and is repeated on bbc one at 1:15 on saturday afternoon — ahead of the challenge cup final. it will also be available on the iplayer. just after 830 this morning we will be talking to the great doddy weir, rob‘s went to was diagnosed with mnd in 2017. scottish legend, they are good mates. looking forward to that. we‘ve got to say thank you to all the lovely messages we‘ve received. people have been overwhelmed by what we showed them yesterday but there is plenty more coming tonight. here‘s carol with a look at this morning‘s weather. we have a nice shot down the river thames. good morning to you. we can see from one of our weather watchers, there is quite a bit of cloud in london. it was also rather damp. the next couple of days, it will become drier. this is true for the weekend. today, we got low pressure dominating. we are seeing this bulging weather front, pressure dominating. we are seeing this bulging weatherfront, rain moving across scotland and northern england. the other end has also got rain on it, drifting westwards. main eventually through the home counties and the midlands. still quite a lot of dampness across edinburgh, the borders generally. brightest guys, also sunshine across the rest of scotla nd also sunshine across the rest of scotland with a few showers. after a cold start for northern ireland, it should dry out and you will see sunshine. the weather front still pushing south, not all of us will see this rain but some of us will, shouldn‘t be particularly heavy. you are showers this afternoon across the south—west of england but more into the channel islands. through this evening and overnight, rain to come across parts of scotland. in between, clear skies and in sheltered glands in scotland, sheltered glands in scotland, sheltered parts of the west of northern ireland, temperatures could well get low enough for a touch of frost. tomorrow, we have this band of rain turning showery through the david tomorrow, a lot of dry weather around as well. a brisk north—easterly wind bringing in cloud across eastern areas and here, showers and some of those drifting further west. parts of southern england, potentially as far west as wales. as scotland and northern ireland, dry conditions, a bit more sunshine, especially in the shelter. temperatures 9—14. feeling cooler because of the wind. having cycled across australia on a penny farthing, done an underwater marathon and completed the london marathon in a deep sea diving suit — lloyd scott is no stranger to tough challenges. he‘s just completed his mission to climb the three highest peaks in scotland, england and wales — in what is his final fundraising effort — wearing that nine stone diving suit. let‘s take a look at how he got on. lloyd joins us now. good morning to you, well done and congratulations. how are you? good morning. a bit stiff and sore but i would expect that, really. you've got the helmet there. can we see it? are you sick of the sight of it now? how much does that way? it is about £40 on its own. the hardest part of it, is its own. the hardest part of it, is it dragging it all around physically or is it the mental strain? physically it was difficult because the weight was distributed. also, mentally, there were so many rocks and stones. i got limited visibility through this. i was trying to pick my way through but by the time i‘d reached right knew i was going, i was looking at more stones ahead and forgotten where i was stepping so mentally, it was probably as difficult as the physical side of things. anyone who's done three peaks will know it‘s done. things. anyone who's done three peaks will know it's done. it was brutal and that really hit me like a ton of weeks. i‘ve never done any of the peaks ton of weeks. i‘ve never done any of the pea ks before. ton of weeks. i‘ve never done any of the peaks before. scaffold pike was steeped and spiteful. not the tallest but the steepest. that was a real challenge. snowdonia, the first day was actually quite pleasant and yesterday, the weather came in and we said it was vicious. the final day. all three of them, different, presenting different challenges. we are looking at pictures of you shuttered with the helmet off, taking off water. louise always talks about calorific intake. i imagine you are eating every time you can, to be fewer calories up while you are carrying that around. no is the answer. i have to be very careful. the fact that i‘m in a deep sea diving suit means i can‘t eat what i want because i am in a deep sea diving suit. it does cause a few problems if nature calls. i have to actually eat just problems if nature calls. i have to actually eatjust enough to keep me going, i can‘t part with the food. actually eatjust enough to keep me going, i can't part with the food.” going, i can't part with the food.” going to have a rest into another challenge? i don't think i will be very popular if i start drinking like that. lovely to see you and well done. an amazing feat. currently about £46,000 which is great. not being able to eat everything you need as well must be tough stop stay with us. good morning, welcome to breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. 0ur headlines today: just hours after boris johnson announced new coronavirus restrictions in england, it‘s revealed that government scientists called for tougher action three weeks ago. downing street has defended its response as robust and targeted — but england‘s chief medical officer warns the new measures may not be enough. i am not confident and nor is anybody confident that the tier three proposals, for the highest rates, if we did the absolute base case and nothing more, would be enough to get on top of it. good morning. the number of people out of work has gone up. the number of people claiming benefits has gone up. i will look at the implications of the tier system on hospitality, where more than 160,000 jobs have gone sincejuly. three weeks to go until the us election and donald trump holds his first rally since being treated for coronavirus, declaring he‘s in perfect shape. i feel so powerful... i‘ll walk into that audience... cheering and applause. i‘ll walk in there and kiss everyone in that audience. cheering and applause. huge response from you to our catch up with rob burrow yesterday. we‘ll hear some of your messages, and speak live to doddie weir, who‘s become good friends with rob as they both live with mnd. that is coming up in the next half hour. it‘s tuesday, 0ctober13th. it‘s emerged that the government‘s top scientific advisers called for much tougher coronavirus restrictions — including a two week lockdown across england — at a meeting in september. that was three weeks before the prime minister‘s latest measures were announced yesterday. the new system will see all areas in england placed into three different categories of restrictions from tomorrow — but do not go as far as the scientists‘ recommendations. sir mark walport is one of those advisors. the right thing to do, clearly, is to reduce the social contacts and that was chris whitty‘s point, i think, yesterday. he, jonathan van tam and steve powis gave entirely consistent briefings. when chris said, i think the word was flexibility, to go up to the range, i think that was a euphemism for a need to go up the range, to make sure that where there are large numbers of transmissions, that they need to be reduced quite significantly. that is one of our guests this morning. let‘s get more on this with our political correspondent, iain watson. we have heard from the government as to their response about why they did not follow through on recommendations from sage macro 80 weeks ago? they always say they follow the science, the accusation this time was that they ignored quite extensive scientific advice, that hospitality would be closed if you —— fora that hospitality would be closed if you —— for a few weeks, hairdressers at that university should largely teach online because students have returned and those infection rates have been spiking in some parts of the country. robertjenrick, the communities secretary who liaises with local government, said that effectively what the government did was act robustly in some areas, introducing the rule of six and having the hospitality curfew at ten o‘clock across england, but also that the government was taking a balanced coach, weighing up the effects on the economy on any other restrictions. —— balanced approach. he says that they have now gone further in certain areas, including the very tight restrictions on merseyside. i wonder though whether other areas, manchester, newcastle and birmingham, for example, who are just at the tier below, would they move to tier three and like liverpool and the rest of merseyside faith further restrictions once he has finished negotiating with the local government leaders.” has finished negotiating with the local government leaders. i hope they don't have to go into tier three, there is no plan for them to do so, we hope the measures in place are sufficiently robust to bear down on the virus and get it under control, to flatten the curve in those communities. but the purpose of the tiered approach is to show people what the path should be if the steps we have implemented will not be sufficient. i think people in those areas, the tier two areas, will be pleased there is no plan to move yet to tier three, with the increased restrictions, including the closure of pubs, but very clever robertjenrick that the government are not robertjenrick that the government a re not really robertjenrick that the government are not really matter but taking tessa action —— very clear from robertjenrick. when labour saw the sage documents last night they criticise the government for the fa ct criticise the government for the fact they came out after the prime minister‘s press conference and shadow health secretaryjohn as hworth shadow health secretaryjohn ashworth suggested that the current restrictions are not going as far as they need. i was quite alarmed when i saw the sage minutes, was last night, they came out after the prime minister's press conference on statements, he did not allude to them. self—evidently, they have rejected significant recommendations from the scientists, so we need to understand why. yesterday they enhance more restrictions on hospitality, which we support, because social contact and mixing, we know, it's how the virus spreads. lam we know, it's how the virus spreads. i am concerned they did not go far enough. comments will have a debate on these issues later, borisjohnson ‘s mps think the government has already gone too hard, but hearing from the opposition and the scientists, they think the government should perhaps take a tougher approach. a very difficult balancing act for boris johnson. iain watson, thank you for going through those interviews for us this morning. uk unemployment rose to 4.5% in the three months to august, according to figures released this morning. nina is in manchester and can talk us through this. this morning? good morning, i will be talking to the owner of this manchester restaurant and the owner ofa manchester restaurant and the owner of a restaurant in liverpool a little later, but to talk you through those figures that came out in the last hour also, as he said, up in the last hour also, as he said, up to 4.5% of the working population unemployed, that is up from 4.1% in the three months to the end ofjuly, translating is roughly 1.5 million people out of work. it is important to say that there is a ladder, you do not know about september and early october —— important to say there is a lag. the number of benefits claimants went up slightly to 2.7 million, it was 1.2 million in march, before the pandemic started, so that number has more than doubled since then. we got in detail of who is being made redundant, the biggest group of those aged 18 to 24, but interestingly the second biggest is those coming towards the end of their career, aged between 50 and 64, so the bookends of age categories are suffering the most with redundancies. some pulled for a tiny bit of optimism, while the number of people on payroll has gone up number of people on payroll has gone up slightly, the number of vacancies in september increased slightly, possibly due to the eat 0ut in september increased slightly, possibly due to the eat out to help 0ut scheme in october which created revenue on hospitality, but the furlough scheme will be coming to an end at the end of october and then it is incumbent on employers to contribute some of the salary for workers or they completely lose their income. at its peak, more than 9 million people were on the furlough scheme, we do not know how many people are left are matt and we certainly do not know what will happen to them when the scheme wrapped up. things are bad today, but they are going to get worse. thank you. less than two weeks after announcing he had covid 19, president donald trump has returned to the campaign trail. mrtrump told an enthusiastic crowd in florida that he could "kiss everyone" in the audience as he was possibly now immune to the disease. nomia iqbal was there. they queued for hours to witness the return of their homecoming hero. covid precautions in place, but most in the crowd were maskless. as was their commander—in—chief, a beaming president tossed out maga themed masks to the crowd — a retrospective gesture from a leader still recovering from the virus. one thing with me, the nice part, i went through it, now they say i‘m immune. i feel so powerful. i‘ll walk into that audience. cheering and applause. i‘ll walk in there, i‘ll kiss everyone in that audience. president trump landed in florida only hours after his doctor had said he tested negative on consecutive days, despite questions about the validity of the test. regardless, he was keen to show strength. you know the risk groups, you know the older people. see, fortunately, i‘m not an old person. i‘m very young and i‘m in such perfect shape. cheering and applause. it was a bravado performance that dwelt more on his own recovery, with few reminders that the pandemic has led to more than 211,000 deaths in america. all chant: four more years! in the hour—long speech, his voice was hoarse at times but his performance was a crowd—pleaser. very happy trump‘s back and doing well again. trump is a good president. he knows what this country needs. this was classic donald trump — back in the environment he feels most comfortable in, on stage, speaking directly to his faithful supporters. the question is — with just three weeks to go before election day, can he attract enough new voters to get back into the white house? nomia iqbal, bbc news, 0rlando. it‘s a big night for wildlife photographers, as they wait to find out who‘s won this year‘s wildlife photographer of the year award. the winner will be revealed by the duchess of cambridge later. here‘sjust some of the thousands of submissions. this one is by makoto ando. evie easterbrook took this portrait of some puffins. this dramatic picture of widlifes in brazil was captured by charlie hamilton james. and these little possums were caught on camera by gary meredith. good luck to them all. iam sure i am sure we will be covering that tomorrow, we will find out the winner on the programme on wednesday. here‘s carol with a look at this morning‘s weather. you have some lovely clouds? lovely pictures myself, these are weather watchers picture, this was sent in by ella in leicestershire. there is rain forecast, but it looks like it will turn drier later but stay in chile, notjust by tapered also by night with a touch of frost. low pressure dominating, the curling weather front is producing some rain, some heavy rain at the moment across parts of wales and through the morning it will continue to think southwards, moving in the direction of the channel islands. the rain will continue across lothian and borders, gloomy across northern england through wales and we have a band of rain currently in east anglia and kent that will be moving in the direction of the midlands. as we push northwards. london and northern ireland, looking at something drier and brighter but still a brisk wind, that will take the edge off the temperatures, which are ten to 13 are this evening and overnight, we had some rain around, getting into parts of wales and northern ireland, leaving set—aside. some clearer skies in between, in sheltered parts of scotland and the west of northern ireland temperatures could get low enough for a touch of frost. tomorrow sta rts for a touch of frost. tomorrow starts with rain turning showery through the day with this bridge north—easterly wind, we will see some clothes at times, blowing and showers a bit further inland and feeling cool, temperatures between ten and about 15 degrees that you will notice that winds down the north—east coastline. will notice that winds down the north-east coastline. beware the north—east wind. the highly anticipated changes to england‘s tighter restrictions were made clear last night, but they will be different depending on where you live. every area will be classified in three tiers as being on medium, high or very high alert. most areas in england are in the medium alert level. places already under additional local restrictions are automatically in the high alert level, like leicester and warrington for instance. the liverpool city region — home to 1.5 million people — becomes the first area to enter the very high alert level. breakfast‘s john maguire is in birmingham, which is now on "high" alert. there is a real change in language, things we need to learn again this morning aren‘t there? good morning. yes, once again during this pandemic we are having to get used to use different words in everyday conversation as if we‘ve used them our whole lives. tier one and tier two. that thing that struck me from the interviews you have conducted this morning with politicians and scientists is as the dust is settling on what the government told us settling on what the government told us yesterday afternoon and yesterday evening, the situation, these tiers are not set in stone. the local reactions we are getting is it is a movable feast, things could change. the other striking thing is the level start at medium and then go higher and then go very high. nowhere in the country is there are mild or low risk. and in different parts of the country, these restrictions mean very different things. england is now a three—tier society. under the toughest restrictions are the people of the liverpool city region. they‘re in tier three with a threat level designated as very high. the city centre, as a whole, is one ecosystem. if you‘re then shutting pubs on top of that, you‘re then giving another reason for people not to come to the city centre, which is going to put the city centre in almost a shutdown scenario. households can‘t mix, travel in and out of the area is restricted and pubs not serving food, betting shops and gyms will all have to close. i think it‘ll be catastrophic for our industry as a whole. i feel a lot of trainers might move to otherjobs and never come back to actually the industry itself. tier two, high threat, applies to those areas that already have some additional rules. well, here in birmingham for the past month, people from different households have been banned from meeting socially within their homes. that restriction, because this is now a tier two area, will be extended to hospitality also, so no mixing in restaurants, cafes or bars. do you think it‘ll make much of a difference to you? yeah, i think it will, i did have some plans on saturday, i‘m not going to lie, with my friends, so i won‘t be able to go out with them now. the pubs have never been safer. i was in a pub saturday, and you just go in, you sit down, you know who you're with, you're not going to go to a pub with a random stranger, so i don't see what the... ijust think it's easy pickings and it's going to cause a lot of problems for people's mental health. i think it is a bit harsh at the moment but i understand we have to obviously go with what the government are saying but it's only going to increase, i guess, if we don't, so... people want to start getting back to normal and we‘ve started going the other way, so rather than things getting better and things getting back to normal, people are having to start restricting themselves again and i can‘t see that‘s going to go down very well. it's difficult, we know we're in this situation, nobody asked for it, but the way i look at it personally is that i could be helping save someone's life. manchester also finds itself in the middle tier, as does newcastle. it‘s appropriate these businesses can stay open if they can perform properly under the restrictions, which, to me, it seems like they‘re doing. i think it's a relief for everyone. i feel bad for the people in liverpool who aren't really going to have the same experience. it's good for us. this is our summer holidays, so we didn't want to have to cut it short and go back down to london, so we're quite happy. we came down from scotland, so it's worse up there, so this is good for us. the highest infection rate in the country is in nottingham but the city escapes the most stringent rules, for now. the government have left us in no doubt that they could well be imposing the very high alert levels of tier three on us if things don‘t change in nottingham. and tier one, with a medium threat level, covers most of england, such as here in exeter, where the rule of six remains, as does the ten o‘clock closing time for pubs. as the virus seems to have targeted certain areas, then the new rules will follow, introduced in an attempt to control the spread. it‘s not easy, but it‘s here to stay, for the foreseeable future at least. since we have been here this morning, these safety barriers, security barriers have been put in this part of birmingham city centre gain this part of birmingham city centre ga in preparation for crowds coming at christmas, you can see the lights there. there won‘t be a german market here, that is normally a huge draw for tourists and visitors. that has already been cancelled. whether we get crowds, who knows? with social distancing, that will put a blanket on top of the ability to get out and about and see lots of people in lots of different places. 0ne other thing that strikes me about birmingham, it will host the commonwealth games in 2022. there is a big countdown clock around the corner. 600 odd games leek days until the games. i wonder if we would all like to see a countdown clock that counts down to a widely available and effective vaccine that can not coronavirus on the head once and for all. john maguire, thank you. we can cross now to danjohnson who is in liverpool — an area that has the tightest restrictions. dan the restrictions apply to the liverpool city region — so what has the reaction been there this morning? there are some people wondering why this is the only part of the country facing those toughest restrictions. for an idea of exactly what this will mean on the ground, ta ke what this will mean on the ground, take a look here. you have an italian restaurant which presumably will be able to stay open, and then just across the courtyard here is a bar which will have to close from tonight. this is their last day of trading, essentially. we can speak to mark from the restaurant. how are you feeling about being open, do you feel you have escaped the worst of this? no, quite negative feelings, actually. when you take into account these guys over the road, we work well together. the fact these guys have to close and they obviously get the support that they require, they can feel possibly even better off than us because the struggle we have is no tourism coming in, people are scared of going out so we are not at the trading level we should be, especially coming into the christmas time and christmas period where a lot of guys rely on tips and so on so we are probably worse off because we don't know what will happen the next day. and the simple fact of takings have been coming down, guys don't know whether their hours are going to be lowered, they may have contracted hours that we might not be able to sustain them. so when you ta ke be able to sustain them. so when you take into account the fact these guys are getting, 0k, two thirds, these guys might not be getting the hours they are on. do you think you would have been better off forcibly being closed and getting the support? possibly because even though the support is quite low and not as good as in march, we were getting 80% and now its 60 odd percent, we heard yesterday about universal credit, it still doesn't fall into place. the £3000 a month doesn't touch near enough any bills. thank you, mark. we can bring in fiona who owns the police themed bar. closure from tomorrow? how are you feeling? angry, frustrated, worried, worried for us and our staff. a little and just because our friends, our very good friends over the radio can stay open. and you can get a pizza there and bring it in your bar. yes, but we follow the same track and trace, spacing, mask wearing, so it seems unfair and it doesn't make much sense that we close that they can stay open. then what do we do because the case numbers have gone up in the city, if you are not going to close, who ta kes you are not going to close, who takes the hit? i don't know, if you look around the biggest drivers seem to be the university student so i don't know if bringing them back was the best idea. and face—to—face teaching until the end of last week was not the best idea. but i feel we we re was not the best idea. but i feel we were all in this together in march andl were all in this together in march and i don't feel we are any more, i think some of us are in some of us aren't and it's not fair to be penalised. you feel you have aren't and it's not fair to be penalised. you feelyou have been penalised? yes, restaurants got a 596 vat return on but we have got nothing. it's like they're trying to force a different narrative on hospitality and how we want it when we come out the the other side. thank you, we are grateful for your time. difficult days ahead for eve ryo ne time. difficult days ahead for everyone in the city who will face tougher restrictions and disruption tougher restrictions and disruption to their social lives and the business impact here, people warn it could be immense. the big question is when will these measures be released, how will the city get out of this local lockdown? dan, thank you. we‘re joined now by north of tyne mayor, jamie driscoll, who is worried the north east could go into tier three where the highest restrictions would apply. we know you are in tier two at the moment, high restrictions where they apply at the moment. give us an idea of your thoughts on the prime minister‘s announcements last night? thank you, dan. what is really interesting as we‘ve been told if we move into tier three we get more support on test and trace and enforcement and things like that but we don‘t get in tier two. what kind of plan is it that says you won‘t get any support to stop the virus getting out of control unless it is out of control? why can‘t we get the extra support in tier two to keep people safe and help people earn a living. we were speaking to robert jenrick who i understand you have spoken to and was involved in the discussion with local leaders. the government line is they have had constructive debate with local leaders. give us a picture of what those debates are like, are you being encouraged to go into tier 03 and you have to argue to stay in tier two, how is it working?” and you have to argue to stay in tier two, how is it working? i did speak to robertjenrick yesterday along with number 10 officials, as did other leaders, we are all as one, cross party. we have very clear we wa nt one, cross party. we have very clear we want to stay in tier two. the government, boris earlier in the year said we will treat it like whack a mole, test and trace, find it where it pops up. that isn‘t happening because the test and trace system isn‘t good enough. the extra restrictions are were, without knowing where it is. what we know is almost all of the spike in the north—east is around the student population and that is being dealt with. in the wider community, in many places the virus transmission rate has fallen and the number of cases has fallen and we know loads of businesses are operating really safely, so why close those? we want the enforcement powers to close businesses that aren‘t operating safely and thankfully the government offered those. above all, we want the resources we need to operate a really effective test and trace system and that is not going to happen unless we are in tier three, by which time it is too late, of course. a really complicated discussion that i know is ongoing with the government with all these local leaders. so you don‘t support those tougher measures but if you we re those tougher measures but if you were to go into there, your point seems to be you need the support now to prevent that move into tier three and that is not happening? absolutely. you know what happens otherwise? you get into tier three and then get the support and bring it down, then the support is taken away, the virus goes up again. then you are in a yo—yo of the nine out of lockdown. a local authorities need the resources to do this properly. we need the resources to do this properly. we may be evident really quickly. local test and trace teams are excellent. between 96—100% success rate of contacts who have beenin success rate of contacts who have been in contact with those who have had the virus. the national rate is between 50—60%. we have to get out of the mindset that restrictions are the only way of dealing with this. we had yesterday chris whitty say even with the top level of restrictions it won‘t necessarily work because it is notjust the restrictions, they are meaningless u nless restrictions, they are meaningless unless people follow them. to follow them you need proper behavioural science, really effective test and trace and above all, people need the money so that they can self—isolate. at the moment, the advice is if you develop symptoms, self—isolate. if you are self—employed or a minimum wage worker, you can‘t do that. the furlough scheme, my heart goes out to steve rather among people in liverpool because many people are on minimum wage told they will only get two thirds of their wages. you can‘t live on that, you can‘t go to the supermarket and say can i only pay for two thirds of my shopping? we need the proper financial support to keep people safe. 0therwise need the proper financial support to keep people safe. otherwise they will go into the black economy because they need to pay their rent and that won‘t control the virus. the government response to that would be to say they put billions of pounds into supporting people who are unable to work or unable to do their normaljobs and there is not an endless amount of money. let's have a look at that. you get your £500 if you are on some kind of benefit but if you are a single person who is a low—paid worker, you don‘t get any if you are told to self—isolate. there is a gap. if you are self—employed, my inbox is full of people self—employed who are saying, why am i not getting support? i spent years building up an effective business, i‘m a sole trader, why can‘t i get support when the supermarkets, they have their entire business rates lifted for a year. the government might say that but it is not working, it is not detailed enough and there is this big blanket they are trying to throw over things rather than trusting local people on the ground to deal with it. jamie driscoll, really good to speak to you this morning. the north of tyne mayor live on brea kfast north of tyne mayor live on breakfast this morning to stop coming up to 8:30. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. i‘m tarah welsh. city hall has warned new restrictions banning different households from mixing indoors could be imposed at any time. it‘s expected the capital will be placed on the lowest point on the new three tier system. but a spokesman for the mayor has warned that the capital could be moved upwards "very quickly — potentially even this week". reports of domestic servitude in london have risen by 80%, according to new figures. the majority of migrant domestic workers are women from south—east asia and are vulnerable to emotional, physical and even sexual abuse. we believe there are tens of thousands of potential victims right here in the uk, and they will be involved in sexual exploitation, criminal exploitation, domestic servitude and forced labour. unfortunately, it happens in every town, city and on every high street, and places like london will have significantly more because of the size of the city. parts of london plan to scrap their so called low traffic neighbourhoods, after roads saw a major surge in congestion. the scheme aims to promote cycling and walking but because of the pandemic, more people are using thier cars. lewisham council has said that the current measures "aren‘t working as expected" and they will be opening roads up. the south london gallery has won one of the biggest awards in the industry. it‘s one of five winners of the art fund museum of the year 2020. prize money of £200,000 will be shared between them all. let‘s take a look at the travel situation now... now the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. now we have got quite a lot of cloud around this morning, just one or two brighter spells at least to start with, but the cloud will take over as we head further through. now, we‘ll see some showers, some of those quite heavy, feeding through them for now a north—westerly breeze. if you‘re stuck underneath thos showers, it won‘t feel very pleasant. heavier this afternoon, perhaps merging together a little as well, maximum temperature between ten and 12 celsius. now, overnight we‘re still going to see showers feeding in but, gradually, as they slip away, we will see the wind veer from the north—east and it‘s going to feel rather chilly but that breeze will strengthen through course of the night, minimum temperature between seven and nine celsius. again, we could see some brighter spells first thing tomorrow but it‘s going to be a largely cloudy day, a drier day, fewer showers around for the course of wednesday. in fact, fewer showers for the rest of this week. however, not too much in the way of sunshine. quite a lot of cloud and yes, the temperatures still feeling quite chilly. i‘m back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. we‘ve had an amazing reaction to our preview of bbc brea kfast‘s documentary which follows rugby league star, rob burrow and his family, as he lives with and raises awareness of motor neurone disease. rob was diagnosed with the disease in december last year and has been kind enough to let us follow his journey. sally andres molteni has followed him around for many months to try to get a clear picture of what he and his family are going through and the like they are trying to shine in this disease —— sally andres molteni. he said at the start that i am doing this for everybody else diagnosed with this horrible disease. we started filming with rob, then i was a global pandemic, so the film tonight shows all the difficulties as a result of that too. rob‘s family has been incredible in welcoming us at what has been an incredibly difficult time. his spirit has made this story very special and it has touched you, our viewers. and that has obviously touched you, our viewers. we‘ve had such a huge response from you and we‘ve been inundated with so many messages and videos. and so we thought we‘d put a few of them together — take a look. it's quite sad to see how he's deteriorated in such a way and what it did, it sort of reminded me of my mum, back in 1976 when she finally passed away from the disease. and really, the strength rob is showing for his young family, my mum tried to do likewise. when i looked at rob, all i could see was my mum and the deterioration in rob and at that stage of the disease, that‘s how i remember my mum. just to see the life being taken away, the dignity being taken away, was really hard to cope with. it made me feel really upset when i saw the piece on the news, and it made me cry, and ijust imagined myself in his body and how hard it would be, and eventually he couldn't even talk and talk to his family, so he had to get a wheelchair and have this special thing so he could talk and itjust made me so emotional and think i wanted to do this walk so i can raise money for people like him, so that it's not so hard for them. thank you everybody who got in touch yesterday, i really hope you can all watch it tonight at seven o‘clock on bbc two. we‘re joined now by former scotland rugby union player, doddie weir. the legend. good morning. sally, good morning! alsojoining us is consultant neurologist dr agam jung director of the leeds regional motor neurone disease care centre. he is rob‘s doctor. good morning, both, it is great to see you. doddie, i want to start with you, it isa doddie, i want to start with you, it is a few month since i saw you in the flesh, how are you? i'm doing very well, thankfully. with a link to the bbc i could not see the preview of rob‘s, but in your last footage when you interviewed him when his family did the three peaks challenge in yorkshire, it certainly brought ata to my eyes. he is part of the team. —— it certainly brought aa of the team. —— it certainly brought a a tearto of the team. —— it certainly brought a a tear to my eyes. i am giving very well. i am still able to drink, drive my buddy on the farm, go to the gym, to the swimming pool, and i am four years the gym, to the swimming pool, and i am fouryears in, the gym, to the swimming pool, and i am four years in, so when you see it that way, there is very little wrong with me. as he will seal the footage tonight, i still need quite a bit of help. —— as you will see in the footage. i need to be showered and shaved, i need to be fed and closed, my hair is not that well this morning, it was done by my good lady. that is the reality of what we are finding with mnd, such a brutal and devastating disease. doddie, you look great to me, she has done a lovely job. look great to me, she has done a lovelyjob. thank look great to me, she has done a lovely job. thank you look great to me, she has done a lovelyjob. thank you for taking pa rt lovelyjob. thank you for taking part in ourfilm, drjung, how important is that people like rob, doddie and stephen dobbie talk that situation? thank you for having me, i think it is really important because we need to raise awareness about motor neurone disease, and i think rob, doddie and stephen hamilton animating job in raising awareness. i have had patients coming in recently saying i think i have rob burrow's disease, that really demonstrates the impact of this awareness drive. we see you in the film tonight having to deliver some very difficult news at times, it isa some very difficult news at times, it is a tough message to get across to people who have been diagnosed and their families, and to people who have been diagnosed and theirfamilies, and i think we also see how difficult that is for you and the people you work with, the toll is incredible? yes, it is very difficult for us as well, that element is definitely there. but overall we work as a very close unit and the belief that we are making a difference, i think khacheridi helps. doddie, since last year when we got you, robert stephen na room together, when you said you were team—mates, how much have you been able to each other —— you, rob and stephen in a room together. quite a bit of content. but i think what rob is doing is unbelievable, to be willing to share his story and the impact on the whole family, not just the patient but his lovely lady lindsay, and his kids. well done to you for doing this as well, everybody is talking more about it and that is what we're after, a bit of help. covid has made quite big impact this year, as there were a numberof impact this year, as there were a number of trials in the uk starting injanuary, they number of trials in the uk starting in january, they have number of trials in the uk starting injanuary, they have been put on hold and thankfully they are back starting again, which gives every patient a bit of hope. and not only that, my foundation, my name's doddie, a couple of major stakeholders, the mnd association and energy scotland, there will be things announced in the next couple of months which will give us all a bit of hope —— and mnd scotland. of months which will give us all a bit of hope -- and mnd scotland. how important is that hope right now?m a lot of ways, it is all the patients have with mnd, as you will probably see individual tonight at the documentary. you know yourself, you have been following rob quite a bit, it is a totally debilitating, cruel disease. in november he had everything going for him, and unbelievable rugby career, we know he is not that big but to be successful in rugby league was quite amazing. he bought a new house, with his lovely family on the outskirts of the lovely village with fields behind it, then he is knocked down by this truly unbelievable debilitating disease in december. everybody has to remember, he played the game of rugby league injanuary, now he might be lucky if he can kick a football. it isjust so now he might be lucky if he can kick a football. it is just so cruel. there are nojerks a football. it is just so cruel. there are no jerks at the a football. it is just so cruel. there are nojerks at the moment, but let's be positive, trials have started for the first time ever in the uk, which is very important —— there are no drugs at the moment. we need to fund this new initiative in research, we will go to number ten and that gives us all some positivity which we all require. dr jung, picking up on what doddie said, when you talk to patients in clinic you had to give them a very difficult message and there is not much hope. can you see signs of something positive coming down the line? there are many things we talk about from a positive aspect. 0ne line? there are many things we talk about from a positive aspect. one is focusing on symptom control, quality of life, linking them to the research studies that are being done. at leeds, i have a fantastic tea m done. at leeds, i have a fantastic team of professionals working with me and catering to the needs as to what is important for that person at that particular point of time, individualised care, and by lots of different multidisciplinary professional, that is there and very supportive. from a health aspect, as doddie said, research is ongoing linking them with a child, that is really important. and just keeping the patient at the centre and embracing them all around with all these professionals who can take ca re of these professionals who can take care of their needs. thank you very much, drjung, and dodgy we are, thank you for talking to us. it is early in the morning, your heart looks great, your looking in great shape, it is lovely to see you doing so well. —— your hair looks great. lovely to see doddie. because of the government announcement last night, ourfilm government announcement last night, our film was moved. the film is now on bbc two at 7pm tonight and is repeated on bbc one at 1:15 on saturday afternoon, ahead of the challenge cup final. it will also be available on the iplayer. it was lovely to you from doddie again. thank you very much, sally. here‘s carol with a look at this morning‘s weather. for the last time at bbc breakfast this morning, what is happening? a bit of this and a bit of that, some sunshine and some cloud. for many of us, cloudy, rain and heavy showers. if you like your weather a bit quieter, for the rest of the week it will be drier. at times a lot of cloud and chilly by day and by night. today, low pressure is driving our weather. this great big weather from producing driving our weather. this great big weatherfrom producing rain. another front sinking to the near continent, this producing some heavy showers across wales. it will continue to slide southwards through the day getting into the channel islands. we have rain coming through kent, the east of east anglia and pushing back towards the midlands. rain in southern scotland pushing further south. northern scotland seeing some dry conditions for the afternoon with a few showers. still wet across lothian and borders into northern england. northern ireland, your shower is fading and you will see some sunshine, further showers in wales. in between, through the midlands to the south—west, some drier conditions with variable amounts of cloud and some sunny skies. through this evening and overnight, we still will have this rain across northern england and scotland, turning more showery and getting into parts of northern ireland, wales, a few showers in the south as well. that‘s a lot of clear sky and under clear skies, temperatures will fall away, particularly in sheltered glens and sheltered parts of northern ireland, as well. here, we could see temperatures dipped low enough for a touch of frost. tomorrow we start with the showers that we will also have a brisk north—easterly wind and that means a long eastern coastal counties, feeling pretty cool and seeing a bit more cloud, with showers being driven in that wind not just into eastern showers being driven in that wind notjust into eastern areas but we will see some in the south, in the midlands, maybe even some in wales and northern england and central scotland. these are our temperatures, 9—15, but if you are exposed to the wind, it will feel a lot cooler. thursday, high pressure is still very much with us. more of a dry day on thursday, with fewer showers. lighter winds, strongest winds will be in the south eastern quadrant of the uk. quite a lot of cloud at times but nonetheless, still some sunny spells, with highs 9-13. still some sunny spells, with highs 9—13. then, as we head on into the weekend, on friday and the weekend we‘re still looking at high pressure dominating our weather. still a lot of dry weather but still areas of cloud. they cannot here and therefore some drizzly bits and pieces but the emphasis is on drier conditions rather than wet conditions. lighter winds well, with highs eight — 13. no heatwave. through the weekend, by night, cool enough for a touch of frost and also some patchy frost. something to look forward to! 0h, some patchy frost. something to look forward to! oh, yes, i imagine... thank you, carol. uk unemployment rose to 4.5% in the three months to august according to figures released this morning, as the impact of the pandemic continues to be felt. nina is in manchester and can talk us through this. good morning. yes, good morning. you will know if you have been out for dinner in manchester over the past few months, they have been working their socks off here and across the country to make sure tables are separated, with barriers like this. a maximum of six per table. it‘s incumbent on the staff when people come in to make sure they belong to one household and that is because greater manchester remains in the second second highest tier. at the moment, restau ra nts a nd bars second highest tier. at the moment, restaurants and bars stay open but they have to check those are from they have to check those are from the same hassle. they feel like they dodged a bullet in greater manchester yesterday to not have the same measures as liverpool but too late for somejobs, as same measures as liverpool but too late for some jobs, as you said. let me talk you through the numbers. today, we found out the latest unemployment figures up to the end of august up to 4.5%, up from 4.1% at the end of the month before. where have those jobs gone? we at the end of the month before. where have thosejobs gone? we know to the end ofjuly,160,000 where have thosejobs gone? we know to the end ofjuly, 160,000 jobs, since the end ofjuly,160,000 to the end ofjuly, 160,000 jobs, since the end ofjuly, 160,000 jobs have gone in hospitality and in this sector, 900,000 people remain on furlough. we don‘t know what will happen to those jobs when the furlough scheme ends. incredibly challenging times. we can speak to helen who runs the restaurant here. good morning, lovely to see you. how did you feel yesterday, remaining in the middle tier that escaping full closure for now? we are so relieved, we sell gluten—free food to a lot of coeliac customers and lots of them have underlying health issues and are very worried. so i would really... so grateful we have the chance to open up and serve them. but sadly too late for some of your jobs, you have had to reduce numbers by two thirds and that meant you had let some staff go already? yes, we used to have 30 tables but now we only have ten due to social distancing measures. i‘m really heartbroken to have lost my staff. such a human side to it, thank you, helen. we can speak to peter in one of the sectioned off areas. you did runa of the sectioned off areas. you did ru n a restau ra nt of the sectioned off areas. you did run a restaurant in the manchester area, two liverpool, your heart must have sunk, what will the implication be for your remaining restaurants? liverpool have the tier three which is closing down hospitality but allowing restaurants to stay open but with the current measures, restau ra nts but with the current measures, restaurants have lost about 80% of their trade. it‘s a bit like the living dead, really. we have lost a lot of our trade but the government financial support isn‘t geared up to the situation, in the liverpool city region. there is an urgency for them to get their financial support package for business and hospitality business right for our region because without that, we will see catastrophic both losses and ultimately redundancies and business closures over the next three months. ina sense, closures over the next three months. in a sense, you would have been better if you were. close completely because your business. between the two schemes? it is a nuanced argument but if we close, we get full funding for the new furlough, thejob full funding for the new furlough, the job support scheme. full funding for the new furlough, thejob support scheme. if we stay open, we have to contribute with pension and national insurance it‘s roughly 40% of the wage bill, which if you are doing 20% of the trade, is completely untenable. it‘s just not fit for purpose. just explain to people, not everybody who lives in the areas of enhanced measures realise the implications for business and socialising when you can only go out with one household? yes, in liverpool, we have had that for the best part of two weeks. you can only go out with the person you live with all the people you live with. most couples or people you live with don‘t go out together during the week. many don‘t go out at the weekend. most of our tables are full of either friends or collea g u es are full of either friends or colleagues or couples going out together. all of that is gone, coupled with the government saying you shouldn‘t be using public transport unless it is an essential journey. i would love going out for tapas to be essential but i‘m sure isn‘t. tapas to be essential but i‘m sure isn't. all the best for the weeks ahead, thank you, peter foster businesses like this are such an essential part of british culture. come and have a look at lilly who set up one of the first chinese restau ra nts set up one of the first chinese restaurants in manchester in the 50s. that is her daughter mabel. and great granddaughter turning one today. same but there‘s helen, very happy birthday to both of you. let‘s hope the business will be passed on to baby! there name kim, last name cheater, always known as... 8:52. a few years ago, 19—year—old jade kilduff may never have guessed that teaching her younger brother sign language would lead her to creating one of the most inspirational acts of this year‘s britain‘s got talent. jade and her choir, sign with me, made it all the way to saturday‘s final and just missed out on the number one spot. let‘s remind ourselves of their journey. hello. please introduce yourselves. lam hello. please introduce yourselves. iamjade. hello. please introduce yourselves. i am jade. what is your name? christian. christian is my little brother and we are sign with me. # i'm brother and we are sign with me. # i‘m not a stranger to the dark # i‘m not a stranger to the dark # hideaway they say, because we don‘t want your broken hearts # i have learned to be ashamed of all of my scars # run away they say, no one will love you as you are # but all that can break me down to dust # know there‘s a place for us... # know there‘s a place for us... # you are saying this is me and i'm thinking we are us. # i thinking we are us. #ican thinking we are us. # i can almost see it, that dream i‘m dreaming # there‘s a voice inside my head... steve royle and sign with me, they public have chosen you. john courtney! that is what happened on saturday. delighted to say we can speak to jade and her brother christian, very much enjoying watching that back. lovely to have you won. the experience at the final, what was that like? it wasjust experience at the final, what was that like? it was just the experience at the final, what was that like? it wasjust the best experience ever. “— that like? it wasjust the best experience ever. —— lovely to have you on. we were buzzing for the whole time we were there. it‘s just one of those experiences you never, ever expect you are going to get to do. to be there in the finals was just... i‘m still on a high from it! i‘ve still not come down. just... i‘m still on a high from it! i've still not come down. it's lovely to see you both this morning. what people couldn‘t see at home is christian was signing along as we we re christian was signing along as we were watching as well. it is so infectious, lovely to be able to see the happiness it brings him and you. yeah, hejust the happiness it brings him and you. yeah, he just absolutely loves to sign, don‘t you? yeah, he just absolutely loves to sign, don't you? yeah! he loves it and he loves it when he hears the group performances as these are great because he‘s like, i‘m not alone, all these people sign, too. it does make him so happy. happy! happy. jade, remind us initially why you decided to learn sign language and the idea of the choir, where did it come from? i started learning sign because we were told christian would never be able to communicate because of his complex needs but i didn‘t want just to accept because of his complex needs but i didn‘t wantjust to accept he wouldn‘t be able to communicate so i thought if i tried doing sign language with him, maybe it will work may be that way but it was worth a try. after a year—and—a—half of signing with him every day, he eventually signed back and it literally changed his life. then i thought, let‘s take this further, let‘s do sign up online and set up a class at our local community centre, where people can come and sign to christian and then he is not isolated to just talk to us. we did that are more and more people, our family, friends, people from the community started coming and that is where our amazing choir was formed. ijust where our amazing choir was formed. i just watched it and thought, where our amazing choir was formed. ijust watched it and thought, wow, how beautiful! all these inspirational people joined to learn something so important, let‘s try and take it further and that is where the idea came around. you talk about inspirational people. you are an inspirational young woman and also, it‘s a beautiful thing what you‘ve done. the determination and to keep signing for a year and then suddenly that moment when you realise actually, this is going to change things for him. yeah, i mean i always say when people say i‘m inspirational, i say i‘m not at all, christian is the one who is inspirational. he shouldn‘t even be alive and he is here today, a warrior doing so well and spreading so much positivity and i definitely wouldn‘t be the way i am without christian. it's lovely and great to see him enjoying himself this morning, as well. the response from the public, what has not been like? you are in the full glare of the tv bubble at the moment but before that as well, the impact it has had on him and you as a family must have been huge question yeah, i mean the public have just always been so supportive of us. boom! the support and the comments have just been incredible. yeah, it‘s just and the comments have just been incredible. yeah, it‘sjust been and the comments have just been incredible. yeah, it‘s just been one of those things when you are like wow, that support is moving. tell us, what happens from here, you will continue singing, presumably customer yes, we‘re definitely going to keep signing and singing as a group. hopefully we will get to do some more shows, more performances. we just want to keep spreading our m essa g es of we just want to keep spreading our messages of positivity and happiness. hopefully we will get to keep doing more things with the group but the group will definitely stay together for a very long time. jade, willie was christian for us what he felt about singing and being on stage in front of all of people? what did it feel like to be arden britain‘s got talent, how did it make you feel? how did it make you feel? how did you feel? did you feel... ? feel? how did you feel? did you feel...? excited? feel? how did you feel? did you feel. . . ? excited? excited. yeah. lovely. jade, thank you so much and christian as well. great to have you on. we can see and feel the excitement, thank you so much. bye— bye. excitement, thank you so much. bye—bye. you are watching bbc brea kfast. bye—bye. you are watching bbc breakfast. it is 8:59. good morning, welcome to bbc news. here are the headlines this tuesday morning. hours after borisjohnson announced new coronavirus measures in england, it‘s revealed that scientists that advise ministers called for a short lockdown weeks ago. we did take action, but these are balanced judgments and we also had to balance that against the effect on the economy, people‘s jobs and livelihoods, on education, which we have made a priority. with rising hospital admissions, labour warns that the new restrictions may not be enough. lam i am concerned they did not go far enough, when you look at hospital admissions across greater manchester and the north—east, you can see the virus is out of control, more and more people are going into critical