charged with murder. in sport, liverpool may have to clinch the premier league title away from the city at a neutral venue with six fixtures set to be moved at the request of national police bosses to avoid fans gathering outside. good morning. it's saturday may 30. our top story today: two of the government's leading scientific advisers have questioned the decision to ease the lockdown in england. sirjeremy farrar and professorjohn edmunds say that ministers are taking risks by allowing the gradual reopening of shops and schools, while there are still thousands of new infections confirmed every day. their warning comes amid fears that this weekend's warm weather will encourage people to ditch social distancing and ignore the rules. charlotte rose has the latest. ahead of the official easing of lockdown restrictions in england on monday, beaches and beauty spots have already seen an increase in crowds. with more hot weather expected this weekend, there are fears some people are dead in social distancing. scots can now meet in groups of up to eight in parks or gardens but they must not go to their homes and follow the two metre rule. parks and outdoor sports will now be allowed. in wales an unlimited amount of people from two households can meet up outside from monday but they must stay within five miles of their own home. people in northern ireland can already meet in groups of up to six, and from journey eight, weddings with a maximum of ten people be allowed. in england, the government believes they have made positive steps to tackle the virus. we are past the peak, we are flattening the curve. we protected the nhs and the number of deaths is falling. over the coming weeks, we can now take careful, but deliberate steps to reopen oui’ careful, but deliberate steps to reopen our economy. but scientists who advised the government about the spread of the virus have warned it is too early to be lifting the down. the director of the welcome trust to sit on the scientific advisory group for emergencies tweeted last night to say infection rates have to be lower and the test, trace and isolate system being set up by the government needs to prove it is working before restrictions are eased. and he is not a lone voice. the government here in westminster clearly made a decision that this is the sort of level of incidents that they are willing to tolerate. the uk is reporting something like 2000 cases a day, italy, about 300 cases a day. germany, about 400 cases a day. so the level of incidents here in the uk is significantly higher. yesterday, a further 324 people died with coronavirus, taking the total to 38,000161. with coronavirus, taking the total to 38,000 161. just with coronavirus, taking the total to 38,000 161. just one of the stories behind those figures is that of hospital porter mike brown who delivered linen around the wards at southampton general hospital. yesterday his colleagues lined the streets to clap his funeral cortez. hundreds came to pay their respects toa man hundreds came to pay their respects to a man described as down—to—earth and who liked to make people laugh. mike tested positive for covid—19 last month. he died in the hospital he worked in for more than two decades. his story, a reminder of why getting the right balance between opening up the economy while keeping infection rates low matters so much. charlotte rose, bbc news. let's get more now from our political correspondent, jonathan blake, whojoins us from our london newsroom. good morning, jonathan. these warnings are quite interesting. the government has always said it is following the science. yes, it is interesting to hear the views of these scientists, because it you rightly point out through every turn to this crisis, the government has said it is acting on the basis of scientific advice following the science and using the science to inform its decisions. but what this shows, and as you have seen in the report there from the scientists, saying that they don't agree with the decision to ease lock down measures at this particular point in time, is that the scientists themselves don't disagree, and there is debate in shades of opinion among those who are advising the government, and that means that ministers and the prime minister in this case has had to take a political decision, take all of the advice on board and decide what to do. but with the scientists coming out and criticising it in this way does these are government open further down the line to accusations that it was acting for political reasons and not on the basis of scientific advice that it was receiving. also interesting to note that we didn't hear yesterday about the covid alert level, which the prime minister suggested earlier in the week was going to fall from numberfour to the week was going to fall from number four to number three, which would we were originally told allow measures to be eased. it seems alert level system has been shifted slightly to one thing that is informing the government public response, but not necessarily dictating it. thank you very much, jonathan blake there. there have been violent protests in cities across the united states after the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. a former police office has been charged with murder. earlier, the white house had to be put under lockdown after a large crowd gathered outside. our north america correspondent david willis joins us now. bring us up—to—date with what is, in some places in america, and ongoing situation in the early hours of this morning. it is, you're absolutely right, and we have seen protests from coast to coast, from new york in the east to hear in los angeles, and we have also seen protests outside the white house where some demonstrators attempted to scale the walls and others have burnt the american flag. but in minneapolis, the epicentre of these protests, they have seen some violent demonstrations over the last few days. the promise of national guard officers being drafted into the streets in their hundreds didn't appear to materialise. in fact, protested they are ignored a curfew and got away with it. a short while ago, the police there started firing tear gas in ago, the police there started firing teargas in an ago, the police there started firing tear gas in an attempt to clear the streets. that after the state governor had said that streets would be cleaned, law and order would be restored in minneapolis after he called 48 hours of anarchy. and earlier, protested in minneapolis announced they were charging a police officer, derek schaumann, who was captured on camera, with his knee on george floyd's neck —— derek chauvin. he is due to appear in court in minneapolis on monday. three other officers who were also pa rt three other officers who were also part of george floyd's arrest are still at liberty and there are going calls for them to also face justice. david, thank you very much. david willis reporting for us there. we will have more on reports in minneapolis in about 20 minutes time. president trump has announced he is ending the united states' relationship with the world health organization. he's accused them of failing to hold beijing to account over the pandemic and said funds will be directed to other areas. the us is the global health agency's largest single contributor, providing more than £324 million last year. it's been confirmed that the uk's job retention scheme will finish at the end of october. the chancellor said employers will have to start sharing the cost of the scheme, which aimed to prevent mass lay—offs during lockdown, with businesses paying 20% of the wage bill for their furloughed staff. private tenants are more likely to be in financial difficulty than homeowners because of the pandemic according to a new study. the report says many renters have seen their incomes fall. the government insists it's taken action to support tenants, including banning evictions for three months, as our business correspondent, katy austin explains. paying nearly £2000 a month rent on herfamily home paying nearly £2000 a month rent on her family home has paying nearly £2000 a month rent on herfamily home has become too much for this woman while her husband is out of work and her hair salon is shut. the landlord has agreed to postpone two months rent to be paid backin postpone two months rent to be paid back in the future. at the moment we owe april and may, and june, the first ofjune. i feel sick actually. at the moment now that is obviously one of our biggest outgoings, rent. citizens advice estimates that around 2.6 million tenants expected to fall behind on their rent because of coronavirus and the resolution foundations as one in five private renters have been furloughed or lost theirjobs in a crisis began. one in four are reducing other spending to cope with meeting their housing costs. the think tank says renters seem costs. the think tank says renters seem to be struggling with payments more than homeowners. going into the crisis, they are in a weaker financial position than homeowners. they have lower levels of savings for example, and they also spent considerably more of the income on housing costs in the first place. it is fairto housing costs in the first place. it is fair to say homeowners are being more successful at directly reducing their housing costs. the government has brought in measures to try and help struggling tenants pulled up in march, elections were bound for three months. a committee of mps has warned a crisis is looming in the privately —— rental sector. citizens advice is concerned about what happens after the eviction ban ends in late june. we want to make sure there is protections for people who have fallen into arrears due to coronavirus, and also take steps landlord have to put in place things like full repayment plan to make sure the requirement given to landlords to work with lynn —— an agreement is for the one landlords group says numbers are working out solutions attendance wherever possible, but that can't be sustained forever, nor can the eviction ban. a number of our members are having issues with regards to issues that arose pretty covid and not able to get possession of their property. a careful reopening of evictions needs to take place that prioritises pre— covid debts, and prioritises domestic violence. the minister said it is keeping its support renters and landlords during the pandemic under review and said strengthening welfare is also helping prevent financial hardship. this woman is hoping herfamily financial hardship. this woman is hoping her family income financial hardship. this woman is hoping herfamily income picks up again soon to avoid falling further into arrears. katie austin, bbc news. many people have been struggling to keep up with the exercise routine. perhaps you'll feel better to know that even arnold schwarzenegger is struggling too! that is a donkey! the terminator star, well known for his muscular physique, posted this video online, which shows his pet donkey lulu interrupting a gym session at his home in la. the former governor of california also shares his home with yorkshire terrier cherry and miniature horse whiskey. i thought we were about to see arnold schwarzenegger lifting the donkey as part of his... that is what i thought... i think they would be quite tricky animals. i don't think they would stay still or co—operate. you can get very big tortoises. that is just you can get very big tortoises. that isjust on the you can get very big tortoises. that is just on the basis they are not fast moving. that is slightly different. we will think about that throughout the programme this morning, or we won't. throughout the programme this morning, orwe won't. one throughout the programme this morning, or we won't. one or the other. it is a lovely morning this morning. it is so beautiful outside. "don't try to see family or friends this weekend" is the telegraph's front—page story. it says people who try to see their loved ones before lockdown restrictions are eased on monday will face fines. prince william is supporting a campaign for a £3.2 million memorial for emergency workers who have died during the pandemic, according to the daily express. the times leads on a poll, which indicates that most primary schools in england will open on monday despite concerns from teaching unions. online, the guardian's website features a live blog from the united states as violent protests take hold in several cities over the death of an african american in police custody. we will be bringing you this story throughout the programme as well. i have animal themed stories. what have you got? this has been alerted to me. this is a hairbrush. it might look like an ordinary hairbrush, it contains a hidden dagger and one of the items aspires used during world war ii, a collection of concealed weapons used by british secret agents behind enemy lines. a lump of coal with an explosive charge inside it, so it turned into a bomb. boxes of matches containing a compass, that is a little more rudimentary. when you cannot see, amongst things that had multiple uses, string vests. you don't see many of them. which i'm quite pleased about. it could be unravelled to form a strong rope for use in emergency situations. ina situations. in a corrupting situation? no, to climb down things —— garroting. you never see them anymore. good. you would like to see this, though. 11 —— a litter of 14 puppies, six weeks old. a hungry little bunch. that is their first photo shoot. can you imagine trying to organise that photo shoot? 14 altogether. the mum, a seven hour labourfor altogether. the mum, a seven hour labour for the mum, the altogether. the mum, a seven hour labourfor the mum, the dog bella. 14 coming out. and cat owners, and dog owners, of course, we have spoken about dogs potentially being anxious once people go back to work stop on the basis they have had so much time with their owners and it is gone. that is anxiety for dogs. beware of that. people have been told to leave dogs alone for an hour to get used to it. cats become grumpy, apparently. disgruntled cats are going to struggle with their owners suddenly deserting them. this is what the rs eca has warned. it says for cat owners, show them less attention, reduce the time spent in their company, and cut back on playtime as well. they can be sensitive to change of routine.“ you can —— can you tell if a cat is grumpy from its face? 16 minutes past six is the time and then has the weather. this morning, the most amazing sunrise here in salford. is that across the whole of the uk? this is dumfries and galloway, charlie. the scenes being repeated across many parts of the uk. it is a beautiful started to the day if you like sunshine. and there is plenty more of it to come through this weekend. it looks dry, sunny, very warm as well. this is just a continuation of what has been a very dry and very sunny spring for many. with more than 500 hours of sunshine on average across the uk it has been the sunniest spring on record. high pressure up to the north—east. really centred across scandinavia. the airaround high really centred across scandinavia. the air around high pressure flows ina the air around high pressure flows in a clockwise direction, that means for us this weekend there will be a fairly keen easterly breeze, but what it does is it keeps cloud and rain out to the west well away from our shores. we have one or two patches of mist or fog around at the moment. low cloud to the south of london right now. that should all tend to lift and clear quite quickly. remember on the maps where you don't see cloud, that is where we are expecting sunshine, plenty of it today. hazy at times impulsive scotla nd it today. hazy at times impulsive scotland and northern ireland. we will have that keen easterly breeze, that'll take the edge of the temperatures especially at the north sea coast, 16 for aberdeen. come inland, 24 for inverness and glasgow. the western counties of northern ireland getting up to 23 or 24. down east coast of england a little on the cool side. further west temperatures widely up to 25-26. as west temperatures widely up to 25—26. as we had through this evening and tonight it will stay fine and dry. late sunshine to end the day as well. strong sunshine of course. the uv levels for this afternoon. looking at the forecast through tonight, clear and starry skies for the most part. again one or two mister fog patches around here and there and a relatively mild night for most, temperature 7—13. a quick look at the forecast for tomorrow, more of the same. more dry weather, more spells of sunshine, and the temperatures up into the 20s. back to you. thanks very much. we'll be back with a summary of the news at 6:30. now it's time for the film review. hello and welcome to the film review with me, mark kermode, running up the best movies now available for viewing in the home. the most high—profile release of the week is the inode, a musical drama that clearly wants to be a star is born, the familiar could easily have been born a star is a bit boring —— could have been called. margaret! hi. what do you think of this? do you think it is too much poop? yes. perfect. —— boot. you think it is too much poop? yes. perfect. -- boot. she is a personal assistant to a fading superstar, the daughter of diana ross, tracy alex ross and star of the tv show blackish. —— tracy ellis ross. maggie's tasks are menial but she has her sights set on becoming a producer either for grace, his music she has remix on the quiet, orfor the young musical prodigy she met in the young musical prodigy she met in the local grocery store and is swapped quips about don henley and sam cooke. maggie. david. this is david played by calvin harris in junior who was so great in last yea r‘s waves junior who was so great in last year's waves but has less chance to shine here. david is an enigma of, a musician who asks his song on the streets but lives in the kind of lavish full laden pad that should be the lair of lavish full laden pad that should be the lairofan lavish full laden pad that should be the lair of an international rock star. where does his wealth and musical talent come from and what will grace make of maggie's new hook 7 will grace make of maggie's new hook top, will grace make of maggie's new hook stop, will grace make of maggie's new hook | will grace make of maggie's new hook ' i'm will grace make of maggie's new hook up? stop, stop, stop! i'm not going to tell you guys you are great if you are not great. directed by the same director as late—night. it is between passably innocuous and frankly ridiculous. with high fidelity conversations about the pros and cons of music interspersed with the kind of basil music production sequences that make 2006 wish fulfilment fantasy ban slam looking like a hard—hitting warts and all rock documentary. you said you were going to listen to me this time. there were a couple of no supporting performances, ice cube as grace's managerjack. he would like to have his cake and eat it, literally and metaphorically. you a lwa ys literally and metaphorically. you always walk away. for all its vinyl loving hipster shtick, nothing in this rings true. leaving this forg etta ble this rings true. leaving this forgettable varied tail to get more bombers than les dawson playing the piano without the crowd pleasing results. it is available to rent now. altogether more adventurous is only the animals. a french mystery fella based on a novel that you can catch on home cinema. —— thriller. unfolding in non—linear segments that flip back and forth in time, like tarantino's pulp fiction, the story follows a group of disparate characters whose lives layout in europe and africa are somehow linked with the disappearance of a woman. in the snowy mountains of southern france, and illicit affair and an abandoned car seem to offer vital clues to murder most foul. but as the director, who made lemming, ships division perspective of this story from one story to another, we realise that nothing is what it seems, to us all to them. like who you think i am, which came to uk streaming services in april, only the animals uses the anonymity of the animals uses the anonymity of the internet is a key plot device of its unravelling strands. it is ultimately a story about loneliness and about how people can interact at and about how people can interact at a distance without ever understanding the true nature or effect of their actions. it is also a damn good thriller, it will keep the audience guessing, visiting and revisiting events from different angles, allowing us to see only fragments of the picture until it all finally falls into place. the result may be massively contrived, but there is a touch of hitchcock like magic in the way the story is told. dramatic storytelling was the stock in trade of mike wallace, the american tvjournalist stock in trade of mike wallace, the american tv journalist who stock in trade of mike wallace, the american tvjournalist who became infamous for his hard—hitting interviews on shows like 60 minutes and his life and times are chronicled in the documentary mike wallace is here. there is a new billionaire in town. trump is the name. donald trump is a swashbuckler. donald, you are in your late 30s, you have 40 years to live, minimum. well, i hope you are right about that not what you going to do? there are a lot of things. a fertile imagination and a good fertile imagination and a good fertile mind, it is amazing what you can do. there is so much to be done. politics? no, not politics. starting out as a cheesy tv star, wallace made his mark in the 19505 with night bed, a no hold5 barred interview 5how night bed, a no hold5 barred interview show that was ahead of time. you are not answering the specific question that ipod.. decade later wallace was back in the spotlight on cbs, owning himself as a reputation as the most feared interrogator of his generation. a reputation as the most feared interrogator of his generationlj would interrogator of his generation.” would like you to get out of here. it was his combative 5tyle journalism or theatre and what were the demons that made him such a divisive figure? told entirely through interviews, with no need for narration, the engrossing character study boasts a wealth of archival footage from the early tv through groundbreaking coverage of vietnam, watergate, the iran hostage cri5i5 and beyond. throughout we see wallace holding politicians and celebrities to account, whether it i5 vladimir putin and ayatollah khomeini or others. anyone who enjoyed michael mann's to let thriller the inside in which wallace was played by christopher plummer will be intrigued by this brief account of the struggles that delayed his interview with the tobacco industry whistleblower jeffrey away again, memorably portrayed by russell crowe. but the real revelations are closer to home in wa5's account of his personal insecurities, anxieties, and struggles with depression. a5 insecurities, anxieties, and struggles with depression. as an engrossing portrait of a man, his profe55ion, engrossing portrait of a man, his profession, and his legacy stop a legacy which, arguably, the way for both the best and the worst in modern tvjournalism. this is the new5 modern tvjournalism. this is the news for the hour. what would you like to tell us about yourself?” don't know. a wannabe radio star trying to get a break at around the same time mike wallace was making waves in the late 19505 is at the centre of the vast of night, an independent that one the prize at the same dance festival last year and i5 the same dance festival last year and is available on amazon prime. they are high school kids who work ina they are high school kids who work in a small town new mexico radio station and telephone exchange. number please? hello? onenote strange noi5e5 number please? hello? onenote strange noises and reports of something in the sky led them into a twilight zone 5tyle tale that may involve the soviets or something more out of this world. they have come here before. they like this before. framed a5 come here before. they like this before. framed as an episode of the paradox that a tv show and filmed with deliberately alienating devices, it is an audacious debut for director andrew patterson who breathes new life into familiar older refs. gratitude to the scimitar ghaffar who has fluid camerawork following cameras through streets, buildings, and car parks in breathlessly flowing fashion before coming to rest on their faces, numbing exactly when to move and when to just stay still. people are saying the something in the sky. yeah. 0k. from new mexico to south korea, where the satirical class war masterpiece parasite find5 two familie5 masterpiece parasite find5 two families from opposite ends of the economic spectrum haunting each other‘s live5. designed with the same architectural elegance a5 other‘s live5. designed with the same architectural elegance as the astonishing home in which much of the action phase out, this became the action phase out, this became the first film made entirely in a foreign language to win the oscar foreign language to win the oscar for best picture —— play5 foreign language to win the oscar for best picture —— plays out. it is now available both digitally and on di5c, now available both digitally and on disc, with the limited—edition steel book blu—ray including the black and white version of the film, which only the animals first unveiled at the rotterdam film festival earlier this year. while parasite was hailed as the best film of last year, i'll leave you with something from a film widely considered to be the worst. spotlight and a drum roll please.- is it what i would knowing what they thought it would be? adapted from a long—running stage show hit, that's true hati booze on screen, even after director tom hoover tried to appease viewers with upgraded cgi the effect. not even a star—studded cast including judi dench, it is alba, taylor swift, and rebel wilson could convince people to pay for this turkey, which is reported to have lost over $100 million in cinemas —— idris elba. maybe it'll make some of that back on disc and download. or maybe not. that's it for this week. thanks for watching the film review. stay safe and i'll be back next week with more home viewing treats. right, that's not going to work, is it? that's what they say to you. good morning. this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. good morning. here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news. two of the government's leading scientific advisers have questioned the decision to ease the lockdown in england. sirjeremy farrar and professorjohn edmunds say ministers are taking risks by allowing the gradual reopening of shops and schools, while there are still thousands of new infections confirmed every day. the government has insisted it is proceeding with caution. there are calls for the government to do more to help self—employed people not covered by coronavirus support programmes. the chancellor has attended the scheme and support. employed workers well asking employers to pay more from august. the government said it is talking to every sector of the economy to see where it could help further. there have been violent protests in cities across the united states after the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. a former officer has been charged with murder. we can speak now to fox 9 news reporter paul blume, who is in minneapolis, where protesters have defied an overnight curfew. it feels as if the anger around this, despite the charging of a form officer, continues. yes, good morning. we thought perhaps the announcement today of this third degree murder charge, facing murder and manslaughter might stop some of the agitation in our neighbourhood, the agitation in our neighbourhood, the 8pm local curfew, but that has not happened. another night here in minneapolis now past midnight of volatility, violence, attacks. law enforcement is reporting they have taken shop that have been fired, i am sure you have reported, they have burnt down and taken over earlier this week. one of our police department headquarters descended on a different police station tonight, they got very close, but in the end, maybe in the last half—hour, we had law enforcement in conjunction with our national guard storm back in their and basically protect that property, that police station. so the rioters and demonstrators were pushed back, but there was an attempt to breach a second police house here in minneapolis. paul, yesterday, president trump said us soldiers could go in. is there any sign of that happening in reaction to the violence and the unrest? yes, very interesting. some late breaking news reported by our associated press that military police are on notice, i don't have much more information than that, but the associated press pushing a headline just in the last few minutes that says the pentagon has taken note of the violence in minneapolis. i have to be honest, there was, until this group of law enforcement and national guard moving on the police house in minneapolis, there was a feeling almost lawlessness, that there was no rule of law tonight in minneapolis. i was driving around, i have moved into a safe space right now to talk to you, but there was no police on the streets, fires were being allowed to burn out because firefighters didn't feel safe to go out and fight these fires. without protection. with washington taking note and the president taking note of what is happening here in minneapolis, that story certainly will continue through the weekend. but at this point right now, local law enforcement, state law enforcement and national guard, our volunteer soldiers are on the ground in minneapolis at this hour. we are hearing protests are taking place elsewhere in the us as well. tell me about mike freeman who, derek chauvin, one of the four police officers who were fired after george floyd wasn't death, he has been charged with third—degree murder and the prosecutor has said he anticipated the charges for the other three. is that doing something to quell the anger? there is a lot of anger that is penned up over yea rs. of anger that is penned up over years. with a decision by the senate prosecutor several years ago, we had a case where a police officer shot an innocent australian native, was living in minneapolis at the time, she called 911 for help, the officer at the time shot and killed her at the end of the alley behind her home and mike freeman charge that officer noor with third—degree —— murder and manslaughter. it is a playbook to get a conviction against police. that is very hard in this country. there is a very hyper, police in this country have the right to use force and you need to convince the jury force and you need to convince the jury that the force that is used during a deadly encounter is above and beyond the use of force by other reasonable officers. so he thinks that third—degree murder charge is exactly the appropriate charging decision, but george floyd pozner family came out away afterwards, they want to see that count up to first—degree murder and they also wa nt to first—degree murder and they also want to see those other three officers charged. right now mike freeman saying he expect that, he anticipated but he isjust freeman saying he expect that, he anticipated but he is just not there yet. clearly, the demonstrators, the people who are angry, the protesters who have been in the streets, i saw signs today, one down, three to go. they want to see action here and they are making their voices heard both verbally and then of course with this absolute destruction, they are wreaking on the city over the last several days now. it has been really interesting talking to you. thank you for explaining what is going on there, and getting to a safe place in order to talk to us as well. take care. saturday morning. it's hand down to mike two floors below. what have you got for us? yes, building up to the resumption of the premier league season, two weeks away on wednesday and counting. an issue of whether all the matters can be played, some taking place at these neutral venues. liverpool may have to clinch the premier title at a neutral venue according to the national lead for football policing. it's to stop fans gathering outside to celebrate. deputy chief constable mark roberts says that up to six fixtures out of the 92 could be moved, including the merseyside derby, plus any game in which liverpool could secure the title. now, merseyside police say they have no objections to matches being played in the city, but the final decision would be made nationally. and a leading liverpool fan suggests that supporters should be trusted to stick to government guidelines. i think that the vast majority of people, whether they support the pool people, whether they support the pool, manchester united or anyone else, they have adhered to the lockdown and guidelines in we end up in the situation where now, those people become foot all supporters, there is an expectation the behaviour will be different. the lockdown general has been liberalised. right now, football supporters will be held to a higher standard than the average person going about their day to day business. leicester city manager brendan rodgers has been describing his experience of coronavirus. the northern irishman confirmed that he suffered from the illness a week after the premier league was stopped in march. i had no strength, i really struggled, and a week after that, my wife, she was the same as well. so we ended up, we got tested and both of us were detected with the virus. soi of us were detected with the virus. so i haven't experienced it —— i experienced a bit, the breathlessness, it reminded me of when i climbed kilimanjaro, the higher you go, you suffer to get your breath, and that is what it felt like, walking ten yards felt very, very difficult. formula 1 team williams have announced that they are up for sale after recording a loss of £13 million last year. williams have finished last in the constructor championship for the last two seasons, but hope that they can secure their future through new investment. formula 1 is facing a significant loss of income due to the lack of racing this year with the sports bosses hoping a shorter season could start at the beginning ofjuly in austria. meanwhile, one of the top events for motorbikes, the british motogp, is the latest event to be cancelled because of the coronavirus pandemic. the race was due to take place at silverstone in august. organisers say that thousands of tickets for next year's race will be given away to nhs workers. professional tennis will be back in the uk soon with a new battle of the brits competition organised by jamie murray set forjune. the event will see the eight best british men, including andy murray, compete against each other and will raise money for nhs charities. while the event is partly for charity, murray says that all the players will be taking it very seriously. it will be, for sure. the guys have been trash talking on the group chat for the last five, six, weeks. they are right up for it, a chance for each player to put one over on the other guy. they are fired up and like i said, it gives them something to focus on and train towards and help them prepare for getting back on the tour whenever that resumes. now, as some pupils return to schools in england on monday, it's a good time to reflect on the work premier league football clubs have been doing in lockdown to support the education of young fans. i've been taking a look and found it's brought clubs and schools closer than ever before. this is how you keep the wheels turning in lockdown. pupils in a school where a pe lesson is been run bya school where a pe lesson is been run by a code from the manchester united foundation. it is one way the club continues to support the teachers who have carried on during the pandemic. educating the children have still had to come to school. manchester united has also given £10,000 to nearly 30 schools in the area to help their pupils learn in whatever way they need. since lockdown, it has been massively enhanced because of this, we know they are supportive of us, they recognise that there is a need and families are struggling, to put that in place very quickly. it has been magicalfor in place very quickly. it has been magical for some students who have had to isolate at home, carrie. the clu b had to isolate at home, carrie. the club money paid for an online magic course. a bit too scared to go outside, it is magic. it is his thing. when jill fell ill with coronavirus, she was worried about how she would cope with her daughter until the schools supported by the clu b until the schools supported by the club delivered packs of art and crafts. for three days, sat at the table while i lay on the sofa and you coloured and stuck and made things and had a lovely time, didn't you? it was like christmas but without having to pretend. and for edwin, the foot for club med his dream of finally having his own ipad finally came true. this is something amazing, there is no word to say that. he can play games on it, certain games the school has said we can give him so that he can do the things. i think he will have more freedom from us tackling him all the time. since there is no football, coming together as a home, a whole premier league team, coming together just to get together, get behind all the students. it is notjust here. right across the country, premier league clubs have been setting up their support with education of stu d e nts their support with education of students during this pandemic, whether it be here, supplying the equipment, funds or indeed coaching support for the staff. just like in manchester in the north—east where newcastle united had been delivering equipment and activities to those isolating at home, and providing online lessons to follow. and where possible, players themselves have been offering messages of support. big thank you to all the tea is for keeping the school going during this time. we admire everyone and the students and the staff for all the work they have been putting in. while aston villa and england defender tyler called one person —— the one teacher personally. when you strip sport back, football back, festival back and see what you are left with, you really see the importance of our community, yourself included. there is a lot of different people doing a lot of great work. yes, it is important to be humble, i suppose. go, go, go! joe hart ran an online pe lesson with young students insurers breed where he started his career. really good work! keep your head up as much as possible because in football, thatis as possible because in football, that is the most important thing. you are not dribbling around so much, you will be dribbling around people. for those pupils who still to attend school, special deliveries from their clubs, it has been a reminder of what everyone has been missing. that feeling of wanting to tell everyone about it. everything is in! tell everyone about it. everything is in i absolutely love, and when my mum picked me up, she will be absolutely amazed just like me! sometimes it is the simplest of things that can make the world a difference, like in art and craft pack. for a lot of plan —— not families with children going back on monday, it will be a long time since they have had that little question, they have had that little question, the chat at the end of the school day, what did you do at school today? and actually, i imagine lots of children are going to actually answer, because it is not an monotony of school, is it? excited to be back. they will be so excited. they will be gushing. all let us check the weather today, ben. what have you got for us? a lot of sunshine for you. it has already been a very, very sunny spring. any more to come. one of those days were doesn't feel the bar to up really early. that is what our weather watcher in devon enjoyed this morning. dry, sunny, and very warm pretty much sums it up this weekend. as they entered, it has been an exceptionally sunny spring, the sun is on record already with well over 500 hours of sunshine. high pressure firmly in charge. the high sitting just about here across scandinavia. here winds around high pressure flow ina here winds around high pressure flow in a clockwise direction, for us that means a fairly keen easterly breeze. you will feel the effects of that as we can for some eastern coast, because of the wind direction we are holding all of the cloud and patchy rain well away out into the atlantic. not very much to showers you on the weather. we don't see cloud that means sunshine and plenty of it. fog around at the moment to the south of london, low cloud on the south of london, low cloud on the eastern slopes of the pennines, plenty of fine and dry whether to come. on spells of sunshine with that keen easterly breeze. let's have a look at the temperatures. there are some contrast to some north sea cxows, aberdeen, 16, come inland and west, inverness, glasgow, 24. western counties of northern ireland likely to get to 23 or 24 as well. a similar story for parts of the west midlands, west wales, some parts of the west country as well. 24-25, 20 six parts of the west country as well. 24—25, 20 six degrees. cool for some of the north sea cxows. regardless of the north sea cxows. regardless of some of the temperatures the sun is strong. our uv levels across most parts of the uk. there will be more sunshine to take us into the evening. liz does for the most part overnight. again there could be patchy fog and some low cloud which may try to creep in from the north sea. not a particular cold night, 7-13 the sea. not a particular cold night, 7—13 the lows. into tomorrow, more of the same, more fine weather. early fog should lift and clear and then we are looking at large amounts of sunshine. could be some of those lumps of of sunshine. could be some of those lu m ps of low of sunshine. could be some of those lumps of low cloud and murkiness clinging to north sea cxows at times. temperatures again a little cool in eastern areas but come further west, 26 or 27. more dry, warm, and sunny weather to come this weekend. back to you. coronavirus: what next?, weekend. back to you. coronavirus: what next? , thank weekend. back to you. coronavirus: what next?, thank you very much. —— ben inc you very much. we'll be back with the headlines at 7:00. now, it's time for coronavirus: what next? with victoria derbyshire. hello and welcome to the latest in our special programmes on the coronavirus pandemic. i'm victoria derbyshire. on today's programme, we hear from frontline health workers on theirfears of a second wave of covid—19 infections. plus, how a team of scientists is trying to work out why coronavirus affects different people in such extreme ways. and, you can always keep up—to—date with the latest information about the pandemic on our website. first, the world health organization has warned of a second peak of coronavirus cases if lockdown restrictions around the world are lifted too soon. the threat of a possible second wave puts frontline healthcare workers underfurther pressure in many countries. the bbc has been given unprecedented access to one hospital in a community in the heart of london who have been coping with the pandemic, to hear their fears about the possibility of a second wave. the bbc‘s clive myrie reports from the royal london in tower hamlets in east london, with cameraman david mcilveen and producer sam piranty. it's in times of crisis we find out who we really are. i've felt broken on many occasion and i think a lot of my colleagues have. when souls are laid bare. in this time of coronavirus, one hospital and one community reflect on these troubled times. coming upforairto reveal their souls to us. we saw the fragility of life. this guy's not going to survive. yeah. let's call the family. i'm going to take out your tube now. we saw its strength. gasping for air. how does that feel? and all the while, one fear looms, another peak of infections to rival the first. don't be fooled by the gentle pace... time is twisted here. on the royal london hospital's coronavirus wards, while many patients inhabit ventilated worlds, of slow motion dreams and hallucinations, the doctors and nurses charged with bringing them back to life inhabit the real world where time moves too quickly, as this cruel disease eats away at human lungs with frightening speed. can we just do a couple more suctions? but the medical staff, including consultant pj zolfaghari, have their own nightmares. are you expecting a second wave? yes, i mean, i have to say yes because i think once the lockdown is relaxed, people of course are going to have more contact with each other, so that's the way this is going to spread. but if the lockdown completely disappears, then i suspect that the cases willjust rapidly rise again. then, as our interview ends, he's called away. i'll be two minutes. his two minutes turned into several agonising hours. i see you're working hard to ventilate him, aren't you. we had permission from all the patients or their families to film. krishna's vital signs have worsened. he's just 55. he's going to cause a bit of a problem here... and again— go, go, go, go, go, go. the professionalism of the team is stunning, years of experience are gathered around this bed, as the duality of time, the drifting oblivious patient and the rush to save his life, merge into a tableau for our times. (alert sounds) so, there's a final roll of the dice. so you guys, lift him up, i'll push the pillows down. ready? this is a last resort, maybe by turning him onto his front they can force air into his lungs, oxygen into his body, it's all they can do. his lungs are just getting worse, they're more inflamed again. and you've been preparing to talk to his family? yes, that's right. just to let you know, have you called the family yet? sister becky smith, a presence on the covid ward for absent relatives. their eyes and ears. imagine this stress for the team multiplied every day for weeks. now you understand what the peak of the pandemic was like. sister carlene kelly bore witness to those dark days. i've felt broken on many occasion and i think a lot of my colleagues have, it consumes you. it's what you think about when you go to bed, when you wake up, you're preparing for your next shift, you're relieved that the previous shift is over, you're sad. it's a huge emotional burden and it's the time of our lives that we will never, ever forget. the peak almost broke minds and according to consultant nick bunker, almost broke the royal london. in normal times we manage about 44 patients. at the peak we were managing just shy of 90 patients. almost double. we were 20 beds away from being overrun. we were keeping people alive. that's what our goal of care was, keep as many people alive as long as we can until we can get back to being able to deliver the quality of care that we always aspire to deliver. sometimes it's hard to find light in the darkness. but you're about to witness what medicine can do. we're going to take out your tube now. this is one of the defining moments in an intensive care unit. give me a big puff, big puff. that's it. when a patient‘s ventilator tube is removed. it's a procedure full of expectation and read. will it work? nice big puff again. he's grimacing as the tube inches up his throat, and finally leaves his chest. everything's ok, you're at the royal london hospital. the heavy breathing of a man given a second chance. but there are other defeats. sadly, that evening, krishna died. another soul, lost. as scientists and governments race to stop a second outbreak, one of the key questions being asked by medics is why some people get more severe symptoms than others. it seems the answers might life in research being carried out by scientists, clinicians and volunteers in cambridge. richard westcott. why does covid—19 put some people like george gilbert here in hospital, yet others get no symptoms at all? he has volunteered to help find out because part of the answer might lie in his blood. i didn't think there was any left. once it is sealed up, the bloods passed a volunteer, his manager had to go on hold because the virus big he has set up a team that every day carries covid samples to be analysed. it is quite an odd way to interview someone. how did you get involved in this? i would normally be working in a lab of people with rare lung disease so it is frustrating because i can't do that so i e—mailed my colleagues and asked how could i get involved, how could i help. samples are taken to a brand—new lab just around the count corner in the biomedical campus. your blood contains cells that play a key role in fighting off the coronavirus. some of them make antibodies, others directly kill infected cells, but do analyse them, first you have to separate them off. at the very bottom, we have the red blood cells that are the heaviest and go to the bottom of the tube. at the top, the plasma, the solution your blood flows in normally. then we are looking at these white small band, that is the white blood cells fighting off your infection. then it gets more complex. there are lots more types of white blood cells, playing different roles. so next door, a machine uses lasers to count how many you have got of each key type. it can then separate millions of them off for more tests. incredibly, each blob here is a droplet of salty water with one cell inside. 260 addenbrookes patients and staff are giving their blood for this research. some got very sick, some didn't. the key question for scientists, can you see the difference in their blood? we've found a number of severe abnormalities in patients with advanced covid disease and some of those point very clearly to potential therapeutics that might impact on that disease. what we're hoping is that when people develop symptoms that make them suspect they might have covid and get their very first test, when tests become more readily available, at that point we might be able to predict predict who might go want to get severe by understanding the science of the disease, it is easier to find drugs to fight it. that is it for now, you can follow me on for the latest information. thank you so much for watching. good morning. welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today: scientists warn relaxing lockdown is still too risky amidst fears the warm weather this weekend could lead people to ditch social distancing. it has already been declared the sunniest spring on record across the uk, more than 570 hours of sunshine so far, and we will be adding to that total with more sunny weather this weekend. a fourth night of protests in the us after the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. a former officer is charged with murder. good morning. in the sport, liverpool may have to clinch the premier league title away from the city at a neutral venue with six fixtures set to be moved at the request of national police bosses to avoid fans gathering outside. and as some pupils prepare to return to the classroom, we answer parents' questions about school safety. it's saturday may 30. our top story: two of the government's leading scientific advisers have questioned the decision to ease the lockdown in england. sirjeremy farrar and professorjohn edmunds say ministers are taking risks by allowing the gradual reopening of shops and schools, while there are still thousands of new infections confirmed every day. this warning comes amid fears that this weekend's warm weather will encourage people to ignore the rules on social distancing. charlotte rose has the latest. ahead of the official easing of lockdown restrictions in england on monday, beaches and beauty spots have already seen increasing crowds. with more hot weather expected this weekend, there are fears some people are ditching social distancing. scots can now meet in groups of up to eight in parks or gardens, but they mustn't enter each other‘s homes and follow the 2—metre rule. sunbathing in parks and outdoor sports will now also be allowed. in wales, an unlimited amount of people from two households can meet up outside from monday, but they must stay within five miles of their own home. people in northern ireland can already meet in groups of up to six, and from june 8, weddings with a maximum of ten people be allowed. in england, the government believes they've made positive steps to tackle the virus. we are past the peak, we're flattening the curve. we protected the nhs and the number of deaths is falling. over the coming weeks, we can now take careful, but deliberate steps to reopen our economy. but scientists who advised the government about the spread of the virus have warned it's too early to be lifting the lockdown. jeremy farrar, the director of the wellcome trust who sits on the scientific advisory group for emergencies, or sage, tweeted last night to say infection rates have to be lower, and the test, trace and isolate system being set up by the government needs to prove its working before restrictions are eased. and he's not a lone voice. the government here in westminster clearly made a decision that this is the sort of level of incidents that they're willing to tolerate. the uk is reporting something like about 2,000 cases a day, italy, about 300 cases a day, germany, about 400 cases a day. so the level of incidents here in the uk is significantly higher. yesterday, a further 324 people died with coronavirus, taking the total to 38,161. just one of the stories behind those figures is that of hospital porter mike brown who delivered linen and post around the wards at southampton general hospital. applause yesterday, his colleagues lined the streets to clap his funeral cortege. hundreds came to pay their respects to a man described as down to earth and who liked to make people laugh. mike tested positive for covid—19 last month. he died in the hospital he'd worked in for more than two decades. his story a reminder of why getting the right balance between opening up the economy whilst keeping infection rates low matters so much. charlotte rose, bbc news. let's get more now from our political correspondent, jonathan blake, whojoins us from our london newsroom. good morning to you. let's get this clear. the government has always said continuously, we are following the science. and now, from the scientists, there is doubt. there are some doubts clearly from some of the scientific advisors who are feeding into the advisory group, the scientific advisory group for emergencies, or sage as it is known, to provide a summary to advice and guidance to the government before ministers make decisions. what this shows from the two scientists speaking out saying that it is too risky at this point to relax lockdown measures, is that the scientists don't always agree, and it is ministers that have to make the decision. nevertheless for professorjohn edwards and jeremy ferrara to come out like this and openly say that the guidance at this point, there guns at this point would not be to relax emerges as we have seen in scotland, wales and northern ireland demonstrates a strength of feeling and nervousness that the relaxation of lockdown measures could end up leading to a rise in infection —— farrar. we will have to wait and see, but i think that was reflected when the prime minister made the announcement early in the week by the chief scientific advisor who said the number of new cases per day somewhere in the region of eight thousand was not alone number, the other key factor here is the test and trace programme thatis here is the test and trace programme that is coming in to place now. whether that works as it should do will be key, alongside the relaxation in lockdown measures in maintaining the current rate of infection. a very interesting to get this insight into the scientific debate and the guidance of which ministers are relying so heavily upon. it certainly is. jonathan, thank you very much. there have been violent protests in cities across the united states after the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. a former officer has been charged with murder. earlier, the white house had to be put under lockdown after a large crowd gathered outside. earlier, our north america correspondent david willis explained how far reaching the demonstrations had become. we have seen protests quite literally from coast to coast, from new york in the east to hear in los angeles, and we have also seen protests outside the white house where some demonstrators attempted to scale the walls and others burnt the american flag, but in minneapolis, the epicentre of these protests, they have seen some violent demonstrations over the last few days. the promise of national guard officers being drafted into the street in their hundreds didn't appear to materialise. in fact, protest as they are ignored curfew and got away with it. a short while ago the police there started firing tear gas in ago the police there started firing teargas in an ago the police there started firing tear gas in an attempt to clear the streets. that after the state governor had said that the street would be clean, law and order would be restored in minneapolis after what he called 48 hours of anarchy. and earlier, protesters in minneapolis announced that they were charging a police officer, derek chauvin, who was captured on camera with his knee on george floyd's neck. derek chauvin is facing murder and manslaughter charges, due to appear in court in minneapolis on monday, but three other officers who we re monday, but three other officers who were also part of george floyd's arrest are still at liberty and there are going calls for them to also face justice —— there are going calls for them to also facejustice —— growing calls. david willis there. president trump has announced he is ending the united states' relationship with the world health organization. he's accused it of failing to hold beijing to account over the pandemic and said funds will be directed to other areas. the us is the global health agency's largest single contributor, providing more than £324 million last year. there are calls for the government to do more to help hundreds of thousands of small businesses and self—employed people who aren't covered by coronavirus support programmes. the chancellor has extended the job retention furlough scheme and support for self—employed workers, while asking employers to pay more from august. the government says it's talking to every sector of the economy to see where it could offer further help. a lot of people are struggling with how to keep up their usual exercise regimes. how about arnold schwarzenegger? you would think he would be fairly well kitted out given his background. let's have a look at what he looks like at home. that is his donkey, his pet donkey lulu. ours wasn't a guy goes to the gym only to be interrupted by lulu who wants to join in. he gym only to be interrupted by lulu who wants tojoin in. he has other animals. he has a yorkshire terrier and a miniature horse. cherry, whiskey and lulu. that is an enormous home gym. it is not surprising, really. but there you go. now you know. what i was listening to get up to during lockdown. the weather and sport all coming up of course. is your child due to return to school in england on monday? do you still have unanswered questions about how it'll work and how safe they'll be? if you do, then you're not alone. so, breakfast'sjohn maguire got a group of parents together to get some answers from the experts. hello to everybody. hello! you could call these parents baby rumours rather than baby boomers as that is how groups meet these days. all have chilled —— children eligible to go back to school in england —— zoomers. it is my 15th zoom goal of the day. we have given them a chance to find out more and ask the experts. how many under 11 with no underlying health conditions have been omitted with covid in the uk in the last month? right. well, i don't know the precise numbers because i don't think anyone does, but what i can say is reassuringly these numbers are going to be very small. while there have been reports in re ce nt while there have been reports in recent weeks of this new disorder where there seems to be a severe inflammatory condition with associated with covid and we don't know how it is being caused to happen, and it seems to be occurring in very young children, it is very, very rare , in very young children, it is very, very rare, so in very young children, it is very, very rare, so the likelihood of this happening is a dreamily low and the likelihood of building having health problems with coronavirus is extremely low overall. just bringing it back into the house on surfaces they have touched. there is a very good study in australia where what they did was follow children and do fairly aggressive testing to see who would have it, how many people they we re would have it, how many people they were in contact with and therefore how many people they gave it to. the answer is that they give it to fair fewer people than the average adult. that is infected. now, you could say, is that because they are not breathing out so much? is it not on clothing or they are just not susceptible to it? if the bottom line is they only give it to a very small number of individuals, regardless of the rate of transmission, they are not giving it a very many individuals. so it could be theyjust don't produce very much a virus. whether it is coming through the air on clothing, the risk is going to be very low. thank you! thank you so much. my pleasure. next is this family doctor. what are symptoms we should look for? is there anything obvious that we should focus on children? children children tend to get nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, they can get a temperature, but the temperature might actually be on the other side, lower, so they actually get lower temperatures. that is something to look out for. they also have the signs of septicaemia. any rashes that occur, if they are off their food. being a parent myself, we get this amazing gut feeling, and if they are unwell, always talk to the doctor so we get go through the symptoms. i wanted to ask what advice gps have got us to help our children cope with the mental health impact coming out of this as well, because it is huge. our guidance appearances see the social media they are accessing, talk to your child, take some time out every day and talk to your child. there are charities as well. there are so much support for parents, they can plug into, how to. the world health organization also says things you can help, to help with their how mental health. the bbc palme education editorjoins the group to tell pa rents education editorjoins the group to tell parents what schools are doing to plan for more children. my daughter is in year 6 and historically, the last six weeks of year 6 have been general mucked about, played, not really learning anything because they have done all the heavy work already. i wonder what value that is sending children back to school if they are not learning? because i think it is unfair schools, just as a place of child care '5 appearance can get back to work. they are trying to think about how they can prepare pupils to start at school, let's face it, they are going to start a new school at such a strange time. we don't even know that when they start high school in september, that they will be going full—time or will they will be going full—time or will they still be having to table these precautions? it seems highly likely. we are having to do two or three things, say goodbye to their primary school and their friends, to prepare them for high school and step up in learning, but also, to prepare them for the fact that even when they go back to school fully in september, it is not going to be the same. given that children can't socially distance, what are the main elements school will need to follow given some have said there will be no social distancing, we can't commit to that, we can only our best? what is our main advice to follow. social distancing will be incredibly difficult. most schools think they can probably an image with the older pupils because they would have been hearing from their mum and dad when they go for a walk or even the government has accepted that getting early years, getting the classes socially distance is probably going to be almost impossible. much of parenting is dealing with the unknown and the coronavirus presents challenges like never before. a group of parents can now tackle those challenges better informed and with some of the questions answered. john maguire, bbc news. apologies for you if you are struggling a little bit with the sound there. zoom sometimes, you will know that from doing it at home. we now pick up on that. we can speak now to dr hannah smith. she's a gp and parent who has written an illustrated book to help young children deal with some of the issues created by the pandemic. good morning to you. good morning, charlie, hi. i think good morning to you. good morning, charlie, hi. ithink we good morning to you. good morning, charlie, hi. i think we although that sometimes children ask of the ha rd est that sometimes children ask of the hardest and sometimes the best questions. they can be very direct and they want answers to things that make sense. so you've had a thought process , make sense. so you've had a thought process, a means by which you can a nswer process, a means by which you can answer some of those are. we did, yes. so you are absolutely right. children often ask incredibly different questions and particularly during this pandemic, even as a medical professional, i don't have all the answers and it can be really difficult explaining what's going on. so together with two of my old est on. so together with two of my oldest schoolfriends, claire who is a global health research, and anil who is a gp, we wrote a little story book called rhona who? it was intended for our own children to a nswer intended for our own children to answer some of those questions and to ge ntly answer some of those questions and to gently explain to our young kids what was going on and to help them make sense of their experiences during the pandemic and my life had changed so suddenly. the fundamental questions, what are the ones most prominent? i can only imagine questions like am i safe? which is a questions like am i safe? which is a question that everyone, frankly, has been asking. i would imagine children would, they sometimes cut to the chase. i think they do. i think i my safe is a really valid question. the aim with our book and certainly as a parent with a three—year—old and a one—year—old is really we want to reassure children, as your virologist earlier alluded to, broadly speaking the virus does have a mild course in children and soi have a mild course in children and so i think the key message of reassurance young children is so important, particularly when they are dealing with such big changes in their little world. so in the book we talk about the changes about the playgrounds being shot, about not being able to see grandma and grandpa, about the nursery being closed and really addressing some of the emotional impact of that in a very ge ntle the emotional impact of that in a very gentle reassuring way for young kids about, you know, why they might be feeling frustrated or angry or confused about it. then it goes on to explain a little bit, again in a fairly reassuring, relatable way, to small children about the safety aspect. and it's a hard balance because you don't want to falsely reassure and you want them to try and be mindful of the changes and the social distancing things, but equally with a heavy dose of reassurance. it's such an interesting area. just a couple of things, of course as a monday there will be more young children going back to school. we know some have been going throughout because those key workers split‘ children have been going to school, but schools have really struggled a lot to work out how they will deal with increased numbers. and this is the time when parents will be more worried, possibly, than before. have you had many people coming to you, you had many people coming to you, you are a gp, asking you those questions? we certainly are getting calls both professionally but also personally, from my friends, and is an area for discussion and i think the only thing they can really say is that has to feel right for the family and their circumstances. by two will be going back to nursery next week and our nursery have been wonderful and trying to accommodate the changes and make the adjustments that are needed, but it is unprecedented times for everybody andi unprecedented times for everybody and i think it pays to remember that. hannah, good to speak to this morning. thank you very much. hannah smith is a gp and the author as well. interesting idea, isn‘t it, because you just, children do ask difficult questions and sometimes it is hard to get the tone right. not scare them and not make things sound too simple. tell you what is going too simple. tell you what is going to be easy this morning, i think is to be easy this morning, i think is to talk about just to be easy this morning, i think is to talk aboutjust how lovely to be easy this morning, i think is to talk about just how lovely the weather is going to be for all of us. weather is going to be for all of us. although a very much aware that lots of people do want rain as well for the gardens and agriculture as well. it has been extraordinarily dry, naga, big little lies the south—east of the uk. sunny and more dry sunny weather to come —— especially towards. in shropshire, dry, sunny, and very warm through the weekend. andy comes after what has already been the sunniest to spring on record. over 570 hours of sunshine on average across the uk. high pressure in charge, sitting across scandinavia. this will give us across scandinavia. this will give usa across scandinavia. this will give us a fairly keen easterly breeze. you will feel the effects of that. for many spots is a story of sunshine from dawn until dusk. this is the satellite picture. you can see a is the satellite picture. you can seea lump is the satellite picture. you can see a lump of low cloud and fog to the south of london. low cloud has developed on the eastern slopes of the pennines as well. some areas of high cloud across scotland and northern ireland. the wispy cloud thatis northern ireland. the wispy cloud that is turning the sunshine a little hazy here at times. generally speaking, long spells of sunshine to come through the day, with that noticeable easterly breeze. that will lead to some variations in the temperatures, where you are exposed to the breeze along some northeast coasts it may feel on the cool side. yesterday across northern scotland we got to 28. we may get quite close to that across northern and north—western scotland during today. 24 in glasgow, western counties of northern ireland up to 20 people parts of north—west england, 25, 20 six degrees. again it will be calling for some of those north sea coasts of england. regardless of your temperature, the sun is strong. so we are expecting high uv levels across so we are expecting high uv levels a cross m ost so we are expecting high uv levels across most parts of the uk. we keep sunshine as we head through into the evening. overnight, clears starry skies, mist paget—brown, fog and low cloud onto the north sea coasts once again. temperature 7— 13 degrees. for tomorrow, again there could be fog around early on. that should tend to lift and clear and we will see long spells of sunshine. patchy cloud likely to develop across parts of england and wales through the day. still a little on the cool side for some north sea coasts. further west temperatures as high as 27 degrees. more dry, sunny, warm weather to come this weekend. naga, charlie, back to you. ben, thank you. as he announced further easing of england‘s lockdown this week, borisjohnson said millions of vulnerable people who‘ve been now health charities say the uncertainty over how long people will be expected to stay inside is causing anxiety and potentially putting their health at risk. rob smith was told he was vulnerable and hasn‘t been out of his one bedroom flat in two months — this is his story. shut away, you know, shot away from the world. nobody seems to be caring what‘s happening to people like me. seven weeks ago i found out i was pa rt seven weeks ago i found out i was part of the1.5 seven weeks ago i found out i was part of the 1.5 million people that would be shielded from the outside world. it‘s funny, you know, iwas out there doing everyday things like shopping, walking my dog, going to work. my worst scenario was staying in every day. that‘s why i‘d go to work. purpose to my day, get a structure to made a. now, of course, almost structure is a get up in the morning, make a drink and watch telly. well, here we are. more highlights of made a. tee time. this is not life. this is not the way you wa nt to is not life. this is not the way you want to live, you know. and of course i‘m feeling and watching my well—being deteriorate in front of me. after 15 years of fighting my condition, you know, trying to keep the wheelchair at bay, i can‘t fight the wheelchair at bay, i can‘t fight the virus, i can‘t fight what it‘s doing to me, what its restrict to me. it is a nothing situation having a treadmill stop it is not a proper substitute outside of walking. and of course i‘m not breathing fresher, i‘m not outside, you know, getting my vitamin d. i‘m just trying to make the best of what i‘ve got. sunday morning, my partner has brought my shopping around. see her once a week, standing a few feet away from her. and it‘s very hard. you can talk to people on the phone all day long, but it does not replace that interaction you get with being, you know, together. and, u nfortu nately, with being, you know, together. and, unfortunately, the dog has had to go to my partner because i can‘t taken for a walk. so a look at my dog bed every day and is empty and the company a dog gives you is absolutely something you can‘t replace. it‘s very frustrating being this side of the window. god forbid, how long is it going before? there area how long is it going before? there are a lot of people like me who would love to be out there and walking in the sunshine, not to be sat out in a garden, but we can‘t. so please don‘t forget about us. when you make that choice to go out and maybe not take the advice of the government with the social distancing, you are only putting yourself at risk, but you are keeping people who are shielded in for longer. that was a very powerful insight into rob‘s life there. we‘re joined now by vanessa hebditch, policy director at the british liver trust, and dr amitava banerjee, honorary consultant cardiologist at university college london. va nessa, vanessa, i‘m going to come to you. you know you were listening to rob‘s story, it is very real, the impact of shielding, no—one is denying it is necessary if people are vulnerable, but it is hard and so when information is confusing or changing it can be frustrating. is that what you are hearing? absolutely. i think the communication about shielding and exactly what it means for people has been really confusing. it‘s been confusing about exactly who needs to shield, some people feel that there on the list and they shouldn‘t be, whereas others, for those with some types of liver disease should be on the list and should be shielding at all times. we‘ve had lots of letters going out, some people have received several different letters saying different things, some have been told to stop shielding by text without receiving any context. there is different information coming from each of the nations. i think what the british liver trust is calling for is an urgent review of the shielding guidelines. we are hearing all the time on our nurse led helpline from gentleman —— people at the gentleman in that film. we need transparency about the evidence that informs the shielding decisions. let me pick up on your point with dr amitava banerjee. doctor, can you explain, at the beginning, of course we all understand, unprecedented times, so they needed to be an immediate reaction looking at the data, which i imagine at some point was limited in order to make a decision as to who should shield stop is that a fair assumption. so there was as a blanket decision, better safe than sorry.” there was as a blanket decision, better safe than sorry. i think that's right, naga. good morning. i think we should also remember that as well as the shielded group, the government also set out guidance about high risk of a vulnerable group of people who are to be shielded are the extremely vulnerable. and initially we took the conditions which usually make you eligible for influenza vaccination and people who are generally at risk of illness. and as more data has become available this has been updated. and sometimes that is confusing. vanessa, can i suggests you, it is interesting hearing from rob there that there is a balance somewhere along the line between someone who has been told they should be shielding, officially, and they are trying to live their life, and then, potentially, if you like, the cycle it -- potentially, if you like, the cycle it —— psychological damage it is doing to them. are you concerned that people may be going to come to a slightly different decision about their own welfare because they are thinking this is too much, the damage it is doing to me by sticking to the rules is actually worse than the risk i might otherwise face and, therein, lies more risk was yellow yeah, ithink therein, lies more risk was yellow yeah, i think that‘s absolutely right. i think as we go through the sort of loosening of lot down it‘s going to become even more confusing and even more difficult for people to make those sort of individual decisions. it does have a huge impact on people‘s lives. decisions. it does have a huge impact on people's lives. they are feeling really isolated. lots of people unable to work and they may be on limited income, dipping into their savings, and, you know, is also impacting on their mental health. so why do think, you know, every story that you hear is com pletely every story that you hear is completely different. and people are really concerned because they don‘t feel they are able to make the decision that is right for them. (crosstalk). ifi (crosstalk). if i could pick up with dr amitava banerjee. therein lies to a degree the problem. given how complicated each individual situation is, clinical needs and requirements, it is very hard to have very clear government guidelines that will work for all. absolutely right. i think where we can improve, as wasjust said, we need more transparency, first of all, about what we know and what we don't know and about the data that leads to the decisions. so that people at the gentleman in the video can understand why they are shielding, and also, he made a really good point that it is on the whole of society and people who are not shielding to try and keep infection rate down so that he doesn't have to shield for longer and longer as well. so those kind of decisions need more information and more transparency. we are now hearing that lockdown measures are being eased, so not only will that add to the frustration, but also, those who are shielding could effectively psychologically and realistically feel more vulnerable. yes, iagree. and realistically feel more vulnerable. yes, i agree. and so there is unfortunately or fortunately an individual decision that each of us is to make and i think the rule of thumb is that if you have underlying conditions, then you should have extra caution, and if you are shielding, you should continue to do so shielding, you should continue to do so while things become more stable, and by that, i mean infection rates, imean and by that, i mean infection rates, i mean the public transport i live in in london, so people who are at high risk should not be rushing out onto the tube and onto buses and maybe continue working from home as long as they can while things more —— are long as they can while things more “ are more long as they can while things more —— are more stable. and we do need to continue the shielding until we reach a more satisfying position. thank you very much. the consultant cardiologist and thank you for your time this morning. it is a real issue for a lot of people right now. and our thanks to rob who told us his story, really very much brought it home. you are watching breakfast. thank you forjoining us. here‘s a summary of today‘s main stories from bbc news. two of the government‘s leading scientific advisers have questioned the decision to ease the lockdown in england. sirjeremy farrar and professor john edmunds say that ministers are taking risks by allowing the gradual reopening of shops and schools, while there are still thousands of new infections confirmed every day. the government has insisted it is proceeding with caution. there have been violent protests in cities across the united states after the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. a former officer, who was filmed kneeling on george floyd‘s neck, has been charged with murder. overnight, demonstrators clashed with police in new york, atlanta, los angeles and washington, where the white house was briefly locked down after a large crowd gathered outside. in minneapolis, protesters are defying a night time curfew. there are calls for the government to do more to help hundreds of thousands of small businesses and self—employed people who aren‘t covered by coronavirus support programmes. the chancellor has extended the job retention furlough scheme and support for self—employed workers, while asking employers to pay more from august. the government says it‘s talking to every sector of the economy to see where it could offer further help. we are going to keep you up—to—date with all of that news on furlough, and how the restrictions are easing. it is interesting. the news seems to be changing. a couple of weeks ago people are saying no—one is talking, and now so many people are feeling more anxious. it is partly because people had stayed at home and literally they are thinking, maybe we can go out, and that includes going to the dock. how is it going to work? dr amir khanjoins us from leeds. are you well? i am, thank you. good morning. as we were saying, the restrictions are easing, and other stage we will see on monday, varying around the nations, but easing nonetheless. how will that impact your patience, but also their relationship with you now? well, general practice has changed a lot over the last couple of months or so. over the last couple of months or so. we are still going into the building, we are seeing potential coronavirus patients but also working remotely. patients have responded well to that. i think we will carry on some of this remote working into the coming months because it actually gives patients another option if they can‘t leave the house, you had the example of shielding just now, we are working really closely with our shielded patients, and yes, we are seeing consultation rates pickup, patients are coming back to see us as well, they still having to phone in to see us but there is still the concern around patients not coming to see us about concerning things like cancer, chest pain, still not up to the levels they were pre— pandemic. chest pain, still not up to the levels they were pre- pandemic. you mentioned the shielding issue and listening to the conversation we we re listening to the conversation we were having. there were some people who didn‘t receive letters or texts or something just wasn‘t sure if they fell into that category. what is the responsibility on you in terms of gps getting in touch are people who you perhaps think should be shielding? it was really tricky because we weren‘t involved in making up the list of shielded patients, and if anyone knows people are patients and their health conditions better than anyone, it is gps. but we were told her our shielded patients were. so we have beenin shielded patients were. so we have been in contact with all of them... how do you feel about that, being the ones that know your patience of the ones that know your patience of the list, but it was the other way around, you are told you to be on the list? we just felt left out, but we felt left out of this decision—making process as a whole, we haven‘t been involved in the testing process where we are working in these homes i was cough, fever, loss of loss of sense of smell and we don‘t have test to test them with. people say, you might have the coronavirus you have to go home and log onto the website and get a test done, where it would have been easierfor us done, where it would have been easier for us just done, where it would have been easierfor usjust to done, where it would have been easier for us just to swab them. but we have been left out of that com pletely we have been left out of that completely and extends to shielding. and even now, all of last week i got calls from patients who were shielding, saying what is the latest? when will be be left out? when will the shielding guidelines be lifted? when will the shielding guidelines be lifted ? and when will the shielding guidelines be lifted? and we have absolutely no information on that what whether and it is really tricky because they come to us for help but we don‘t have the advice to give them because we haven‘t been involved in those discussions. it must be very frustrating. another issue, we were talking about how the measures are changing. there are reports now that quite a few primary schools will be opening their doors more to children, any concern parents on the phone thinking about how they will keep their children safe when going into a new environment? definitely, lots of concerned parents. it is all connecting the dots. some parents have shielded, are they allowed to send their children to school if they fit though the agreed criteria is? the issue really is for a lot of healthcare professionals is that we haven‘t had the test track and trace system haven‘t had the test track and trace syste m u p haven‘t had the test track and trace system up and running properly before these lockdown issues are easy including the schools, and it would have been good to have that in place so if a child is at school or afamily place so if a child is at school or a family member of theirs or somebody close becomes unwell with potential coronavirus, that child can be self isolated at home and other children and teens at risk. but we don‘t have that infrastructure yet and it is concerning and that extends to the easing of the lot down in general. you will be aware that over the last few weeks we have spoken to lots of gps and tried to get what is happening at a practical level, and understand you are more concerned, most concerned with your patience and their well—being. we are at a point now, ten weeks into this, 11 weeks where we can start looking back and look at the relationship between science, between medicine and politics of it. do you think now is the time to perhaps push to be more involved or push the medical profession, your profession to be more involved and more consultant by the politicians? yes, i think it is a lwa ys the politicians? yes, i think it is always important to involve the people who are seeing the patients and know the patients. i have the utmost respect for the scientists who are making these decisions high up, but with all due respect, they may not be on the ground, seeing the stuff that we see and hearing the questions that we hear, and i think it has to be much more of a team effort to get this right because there seems to be a disconnect between the scientists, the doctors on the ground and the patients and the people involved, and it all needs to be joined the people involved, and it all needs to bejoined up. our profession in the general practice does feel left out of that and we other one are seeing the people in the community. there are interesting talking to you always. are you at work today? i am not! speaking of shielding, we have a few people shielding, we have a few people shielding in our village, and shielding, we have a few people shielding in ourvillage, and i shielding, we have a few people shielding in our village, and i will be seeing them today.” shielding in our village, and i will be seeing them today. i like you even more now. how lovely. thank you. have a lovely day and hope you enjoy some sunshine as well, bring somejoy to enjoy some sunshine as well, bring some joy to those who are shielding. thank you. goodbye. in amongst all those very difficult things we are talking about, those little things, and we have said is all along, those things people do for one another are now almost routine. it has become part of the normal. always worth mentioning. a little earlier we were looking at the papers and i showed you a picture. i am concerned about cats getting grumpy, because we are spinning so much time at home, a p pa re ntly spinning so much time at home, apparently when we start to go back to work in a more normal routine, you question whether they can look bumpy. i have a cat and i question whether you look at the face, just from the faith alone, can you tell the difference between whether it is happy or grumpy? assuming it is not yelling. the expression if you like. lindsay thinks her cat does show when she is grumpy. i have —— a p pa re ntly when she is grumpy. i have —— apparently it is the hot weather at the moment. she has a beautifulfur coat. it is not appropriate for this weather. she looks so calm. what about this one? this one, jen says this cat looks suitably miserable, particularly when it is raining. doesn‘t like the rain one doesn‘t like the rain, one doesn‘t like the sunshine. my like the sunshine. my expertise is not great, but i am seeing a slight narrowing of the eyes, which i would suggest is indicative of something. so maybe. this one might convince you. that is a british long hair. they have been together for a a british long hair. they have been togetherfor a year, she is at a british long hair. they have been together for a year, she is at the dead, but what they also said... that is a great face. she always looks grumpy, but actually, she is just lovely she always looks grumpy, but actually, she isjust lovely and she always looks grumpy, but actually, she is just lovely and a real character. it isa real character. it is a terrific face. to me, that cat faces saying, i don‘t care what you people are doing what you say. i am just me. that is most cats. then, the pressure is on you now to make sure that around the uk are happy today. it sounds like one of those actors going to be whatever i say. that is a good point! —— those cats. at least one of them will be grumpy all the time. actually, i think probably not too many frowns from people today, though perhaps gardeners might still be frowning because of how dry it has been. if you are planning to get out and about for the exercise, fine, sunny, dry and very warm, just as it has been for much of the spring. it has been for much of the spring. it has been the sunniest spring on record with over 570 hours of sunshine recorded across the uk so far. higher pressure is in charge, that is keeping things settled. the air around the high—pressure flowing in his clockwise direction, there will bea his clockwise direction, there will be a fairly keen easterly breeze, you will feel that on the north sea coasts. sunshine from dawn till dusk, the satellite picture shows a lump of low cloud sitting to the south of london, breaking up now. low cloud on the eastern slopes of the pennines, i cloud turning sunshine hazy at times through scotla nd sunshine hazy at times through scotland and northern ireland. i am really clutching at straws for the detail because basically it is fine, dry and sunny. but with the noticeable easterly breeze. that will lead to some the temperatures. if you are spending your day close to north sea coasts, 24 in inverness, 24 in glasgow as well. western counties of northern ireland getting up to 23 or 24 degrees. some of the north sea coasts of england just 13 or 14 exposed to the breeze, but with shelter, 23 or 24 or 25 degrees. into the afternoon, you will notice strong sunshine continuing, my uv levels for many. that sunshine will continue into the evening, it strays dry overnight with clear spells. not a particularly cold night, and tomorrow, and fine, dry, sunny and warm day. back to you. i think you have half the cat population satisfied, half the population satisfied, half the population unsatisfied. you can please some of the cats some of the time, not all of them. whatever that phrase is. a little bit of the cheshire cat. 0h, charlie, what are you saying? he is not going to do it now. i have never had that before, charlie. i now. i have never had that before, charlie. lam now. i have never had that before, charlie. i am sure people will write in now. i don't think it's a bad thing, can! in now. i don't think it's a bad thing, can i say that now, don‘t think it‘s a bad thing. thing, can i say that now, don‘t think it's a bad thing. as long as i am nota think it's a bad thing. as long as i am not a grumpy cat. they are making no more comparison throughout the day. 7:46 it‘s over. no more comparison throughout the day. 7:46 it's over. i think someone is getting itchy whiskers. good morning, mike. always have itchy whiskers, especially when talking about the premier league season. so when the premier league season resumes in less than three weeks, most premier league matches will be played as normal at home and away grounds, albeit behind closed doors. but liverpool may have to clinch the premier title at a neutral venue according to the national lead for football policing. it‘s to stop fans gathering outside to celebrate. deputy chief constable mark roberts says that up to six fixtures could be moved, including the merseyside derby, plus any game in which liverpool, could secure the title. now, merseyside police say they have no objections to matches being played in the city, but the final decision would be made nationally. professional tennis will be back in the uk soon with a new battle of the brits competition organised by jamie murray set forjune. the event will see the eight best british men, including andy murray, compete against each other and will raise money for nhs charities. while the event is partly for charity, jamie says that all the players will be taking it very seriously. it will be, yeah, for sure. i mean, the guys have been trash talking on the group chat for the last five, six, weeks. so they‘re right up for it, it‘s a chance for each player to put one over on the other guys. they are fired up and, like i said, it gives them something to focus on and train towards and help them prepare for getting back on the tour whenever that resumes. now, during lockdown, lots of us have got much better at using video conferencing, either for work and pleasure, could it be, the way we support our football teams, when the season resumes behind closed doors. premier league clubs are looking at new ways to engage with fans, and danish club aarhus, brought over 10,000 supporters into their first home game back via a mass zoom meeting. fans could book their seats on thousands of screens and so players could see and hear their reactions through loud speakers. it was deemed a success, even if moderators had to remove two fans from the event for inappropriate behaviour. and just wonder whether at first it will be rather distracting for the players. it is not like they are normally sat in their seats, you get a snapshot into people‘s homes when you did video conferencing. so unexpected things happen with the family and pets, may be cats. well, hopefully the players are concentrating on what they are doing on the pitch. when the screens are so on the pitch. when the screens are so big stop they agree with you, it could be so distracting. first of all, we are obsessed with people's kitchens. let alone anything else that happens. thanks, mike. we will see later on. we‘ll be back with the headlines at 8:00. this week, who‘s tracking your teams‘ computers? hello, you. hope you‘re doing ok. the weather‘s getting warmer here which means only one thing — any minute now you will hear my next—door neighbour‘s lawnmower whiz past and there‘s nothing i can do about it. sorry, lara. there is an app for that, you know, don‘t you watch a programme called click? oh yes, i remember. good point! we were actually all meant to be outside this week at the hay festival, but alas it‘s not happening this year. yeah, i know. i‘m going to miss the hay festival this year. hay is still online though and they‘ve got loads of speakers who are giving talks from their homes — rather like the rest of us these days. yes. how are you finding working from home, spencer? um, well, i‘m really lucky to be able to work from home, but the weird thing is, whenever i have worked at home in the past i have worked harder and longer than i have in the office, basically because i‘m paranoid people will think i‘m skiving off. yeah, i can understand that although, of course, not everybody‘s that conscientious. and speaking to a lot of friends i think the idea that moving forward many of us could be working from home more, even after the pandemic. well, while our bosses can‘t watch us in the way they would in the office there is some technology that might. with millions of us now working from home, managers are facing new challenges. homeworkers are harder to monitor and so trust is vital. however, in recent weeks demand for software to monitor employees has surged in the us, so it seems not everyone is quite so trusting. while companies may argue that it‘s simply about maintaining productivity, others may feel that we‘re slipping into a time of creepy surveillance. so based on these concerns, new york times journalist adam satarino decided to conduct an unusual experiment. i wanted to see how this employee monitoring software worked. and so i thought the best way to do that would just be to turn it on myself so i downloaded the software on my computer, on my phone, and then i turned it around and gave my manager, my editor in san francisco access as well, just knowing that your supervisor was looking over my shoulder and could see screenshots of what was on my computer screen, or a log of what websites i was visiting, that sort of changes how you behave and how you perform yourjob. adam used monitoring software hubstaff. the software is now installed on over 100,000 company machines. it can snap screenshots of your computer every few minutes. other software on the market can even record your screen — and monitor every keystroke. i really did begin to feel that it was intrusive and over the top. it spits out this percentage which becomes kind of your productivity score that can be used to measure you. and so mine were always stubbornly low, which was surprising, i consider myself to be a fairly productive person. i am embarrassed to say i looked at that number and i was like, what? what is going on here?! it kind of raises immediate questions — like what is this guy doing? so i should have known better, because when he explained that this really only measures the amount of time you're, you know, typing on your device and using your device and your laptop, that explained a lot. but knowing what else he was doing felt really weird and intrusive. and it was kind of gross, you know. it's like you're not only violating adam's privacy, you're sort of violating other people's privacy that he was communicating with by extension. adam‘s experiment was one manager monitoring one employee and the companies providing the software argue that this isn‘t a true reflection of how their customers use it. but that‘s not the reality of what really happens. what really happens is i have 100 employees and there‘s nobody who‘s going around looking at the detail of 100 employees. so really what they‘re looking for is just those basic insights that we talked about. and the detail is just there if it‘s needed, if something looks off, looks awry. however, in the united states the sudden surge in demand has started to draw attention to the lack of legal protection for workers‘ privacy. and also, highlighted a power imbalance between employers and employees. governmental action is necessary to protect workers from being forced to treat their dignity in the employment bargain. in february, i did testify in congress in the subcommittee on labour and education, and this was an issue that was raised. this productivity tracking of employees and also the fate of the data that is collected. with millions more of us now working from home, dr ajunwa concerns have become even more pressing. she told us that currently employers are allowed to secretly monitor employees as no federal law exists that requires them to inform their workers about surveillance. it‘s now a free for all. it‘s the wild, wild west. everybody is now subject to the same kind of minute monitoring as we previously thought was, you know, the plight of those poor factory or warehouse workers. and there‘s also the issue of employment discrimination that can arise from all this data collection. if you‘re taking screenshots, you might discover information about the employee that you perhaps would not have discovered in a traditional workplace. you might discover that the employee is of a different sexual orientation, so that could also give rise to discrimination on those grounds, or a different religion. but in europe, where productivity monitoring of employees is still legal, there is much tighter oversight, and there are regulations around its use. in europe we have to tell people what we‘re doing and why, and ensure that we have lawful grounds for doing that. if an organisation has a legitimate interest in collecting the data for workforce productivity in certain areas, then it will be able to do so without consent, but it will still need to be transparent with its employees, telling them what it‘s doing and of course putting safeguards to protect the data. maybe we will see this sort of employee surveillance become the norm, but clearly it will stir quite some debate. after all, how would you feel if your boss was monitoring you? in the dead of the night something is afoot. two feet, in fact, and a jump. westpac little ripper group and myself are sleep to track down some roving roos or the occasional wandering walla by. we‘re not fussy. table, check, carpet, check, two unmanned aerial vehicles, check, check. i‘m out with the same team behind the slick sharkspotter drones i‘ve covered before. with the bushfires and the animals that have been affected we‘ve now taken the amazing technology that we‘ve out on the beaches for the last three years and we‘ve put it over the bushland. now they‘ve turned nocturnal and their new targets are considerably cuddly creatures. you can see kangaroo, kangaroo, kangaroo. you can see they really stand out against the background. we‘re filming before sunrise during the coldest part of the day. so the new thermal cameras fixed to the drones can work properly. as well as being able to serve a huge swathe of land in the blink of an airborne eye, the drone‘s thermal capabilities can help in other ways. a thermal signature makes animals much easier to see at night. their natural internal temperatures making them visible even in the most dense of treetop canopies. and the different individual temperatures of the animals can be recorded, therefore making them more distinct between species. different animals show up at different temperatures. they have different fur that insulates them. so it‘s just a matter of picking them out but you can see quite easily that there‘s a whole lot of kangaroos in this field. dr grant hamilton from queensland university of technology is also using drones to monitor koalas. he‘s devised an algorithm to automatically detect animals in the outback using computer vision. on the right—hand side we have the artificial intelligence algorithm working and on the left—hand side we have the thermal imagery. it‘s a koala. initially it was falsely detecting kangaroos, for example, as koalas. we were even detecting humans and even hot car bonnets. but that‘s the whole point that you go back and you retrain the algorithm. so the algorithm gets better and better and better to the point now we‘re better than humans are at detecting koalas. all of the algorithms that have been developed to date is processing back at a university, so there's no in field processing. so we're now going to work with the universities and the institutions, take their datasets and algorithms that they've started to develop, layer it over our technology, which enables us to do these surveys at night in the field and get real—time data back. and that's the key. someone who knows a thing or two about the state of australian animals is dr michael pyne. when i first started here 20 years ago we admitted just three koalas in the whole year and last year we admitted almost 600 koalas. he sees real value in an up—to—date digital census. these surveys are done intermittently, maybe every ten years, and in many areas they‘re not done at all, it‘s just estimates. technology such as drones, you know, using those thermal cameras, can mean a large area can be covered in short periods of time, you know, relatively cheaply, to get those numbers so we know how many koalas are there and that makes all the difference. only if we know what‘s there can we manage what‘s there and be able to make, you know, decisions about the future. that‘s it for the shortcut of click for this week. the full—length version is available for you right now on iplayer. and you can keep up with the team throughout the week on instagram, youtube, facebook and twitter. thanks for watching and we will see you soon. bye bye. good morning. welcome to breakfast. our headlines today. scientists warn relaxing lockdown is still too risky amdist fears the warm weather this weekend could lead people to ditch social distancing. protestors clash with police in cities across the us, on the fourth night of demonstrations following the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. i think the appropriate charge in this case was murder. we still have a long way to go. liverpool may have to clinch the premier league title away from the city, at a neutral venue, with six fixtures set to be moved, at the request of national police bosses to avoid fans gathering outside. it has already been declared the sunniest spring on record across the uk. and we will be adding to that with more sunny weather this weekend. they‘re not quite back for good but robbie reunites with three of his former take that bandmates for a special lockdown gig. it‘s saturday, the 30th of may. our top story. two of the government‘s leading scientific advisers have questioned the decision to ease the lockdown in england. sirjeremy farrar and professorjohn edmunds say ministers are taking risks by allowing the gradual reopening of shops and schools, while there are still thousands of new infections confirmed every day. their warning comes amid fears that this weekend‘s warm weather will encourage people to ignore the rules on social distancing. charlotte rose has the latest. head of the official easing of lockdown restrictions in england on monday beaches and beauty spots have already seen more crowds. there are fears some people are ditching social distancing. scots can now meet in groups of up to eight in parks or gardens but they must not enter each other home and must follow the two metre rule. some outdoor sports will also now be allowed. in wales an unlimited number of people from two households can meet outside from monday but must stay within five miles of their own home. people in northern ireland can already meet in groups of up to six, from 8th ofjune weddings with a maximum of ten people may be allowed. in england to the government believes they have made positive steps to tackle the virus. we are past the peak. we are flattening the car. we have protected the nhs and the number of daters following. over the coming weeks we can now take careful but deliberate steps to reopen our economy. but scientists who advise the comment about the spread of the virus have warned it is too early to be lifting lockdown. the director of the welcome trust who sits on the scientific advisory group for emergencies tweeted last night to see infection rates have to be lower and the taste, trace and isolate system being set up by the government is to prove it is working before restrictions are eased. he is not a lone voice. the government here in westminster clearly made a decision that this is the sort of level of incidents that they are willing to tolerate. the uk is reporting something like 2000 cases per day. italy about 300 cases per day. germany about 400 cases per day. germany about 400 cases per day. that level of incidents a year in the uk is significantly higher. yesterday a further 324 people died with a coronavirus taking the total tooth —— total to over 38,000. yesterday the colleagues of the supporter lined the streets. hundreds paid their respects to a man described as down to earth. he tested positive for covid—19 last month. his story is a reminder about getting the right balance between opening up the economy while keeping infection rates are low matters so much. let‘s get more now from our political correspondent, jonathan blake, whojoins us from our london newsroom. lives are still being lost which makes it all the more difficult when we have heard so much from politicians that they are following that science and the you hear two of their scientific advisers are seeing something that very much seems to be at odds with the advice going into the next few weeks. yes, at every turn ministers throughout this crisis have said that they are guided by the science, but as you have heard, that scientists do not always agree. what happens when key scientific advisers speak out in this way against what ministers have decided to do? i think this reflects a nervousness amongst some in government as well. that the decisions taken are potentially risky. the basis for thatis potentially risky. the basis for that is not only the fact that the rates of infection are currently too high to be relaxing measures in some peoples eyes but also the test and trace programme, which is getting up and running at the moment, is not fully ready. that needs to be the case if the government is going to be able to monitor the rate of infection, and into the future relax restrictions further. of course ministers do not know. they have to weigh up the number of infections and the number of people losing their lives from coronavirus but also that measures on people‘s general well—being and on the economy as well. interesting to see that the alert system, that colour 1-5 that the alert system, that colour 1—5 scale unveiled few weeks ago, which would indicate when ministers we re which would indicate when ministers were able to take decisions, has slightly been sidelined. we are stuck on level four and not fallen as the prime minister hoped to level three. violent demonstrations have broken out in several us cities, in protest at the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. in minneapolis, protesters have defied a curfew and buildings have been set alight, while georgia has declared a state of emergency. our correspondent barbara plett—usher has just sent this report from minneapolis. the state deployed to to restore order. local initials + local officials moved quickly to charge a police officer with third—degree murder and manslaughter. this video shows the officer kneeling on the neck of george floyd for nearly nine minutes. the governor said he expects swift justice. the question remains whether this will be enough to quell the rage that has ignited here and are spreading across the rest of america. protests have spread and grown. in los angeles demonstrators clashed with police officers. in manhattan the match also in memory of eric gardner, a new york man who gasped for air before he died. and in atla nta gasped for air before he died. and in atlanta one of the biggest process suddenly turned violent, angering the mayor. what i see happening on the streets of atalanta is not atlanta. this is not a protest. this is not in the spirit of martin luther king junior. this is chaos. the white house was under lockdown late on friday evening. earlier, donald trump gave his first extensive remarks on the protests. for the situation to descend further into lawless anarchy and chaos, we understand that very well. it is very important i believe, to the family, to everybody, that the memory of george floyd be a perfect memory. america is revealing. in the middle of a pandemic, suffering its worst economic crisis since the great depression. now once again watching its racialfault lines explode. president trump has announced he is ending the united states‘ relationship with the world health organisation. he‘s accused it of failing to hold beijing to account over the pandemic and said funds will be directed to other areas. the us is the global health agency‘s largest single contributor, providing more than £324 million last year. there are calls for the government to do more to help hundreds of thousands of small businesses and self—employed people who aren‘t covered by coronavirus support programmes. the chancellor has extended the job retention furlough scheme and support for self—employed workers, while asking employers to pay more from august. the government says it‘s talking to every sector of the economy to see where it could offer further help. people who rent privately are more likely to be struggling with their housing costs during the pandemic than those who own their homes, according to new research by the resolution foundation. the think tank, which focuses on people on low incomes, says one—in—eight private renters have fallen behind with housing costs. the government says it has taken action to support tenants including banning evictions for three months. greece has confirmed it‘ll soon open up for tourists from 29 countries, but not those from the uk. people from eu nations including germany, austria and denmark will be able to visit from the 15th ofjune. the greek government says those from some of the world‘s most affected countries including the uk, france, italy and spain are not allowed for now. greece has reported just 175 deaths related to covid—19. from monday, lockdown restrictions will be eased further in england. we‘ll be able to meet up to six people outside and some nonessential shops and businesses will begin to re—open. but some scientists are warning the government is lifting restrictions too fast. here to discuss is epidemic specialist professor sian griffiths. and professor sally bloomfield is from the london school of hygiene and tropical medicine. professor griffiths, i think sometimes it is hard for laypeople to try and work out when they hear a politician saying one thing, and then as we have most recently hired, two scientists who advise them, seeing something that on the face of it is at odds, which is that they are concerned about easing lockdown equals more risk. can‘t you just reflect on that for us? yes. good morning. throughout the whole of the pandemic we have been hearing that scientists provide the advice and that politicians need to make the decisions and you see that in every country in the world. every country in every country in the world. every cou ntry affected in every country in the world. every country affected by the virus is making different decisions all the time. politicians in england have made different decisions from politicians in wales, scotland and northern ireland, i am saying that to emphasise that the science there. science is not a single entity. it is many different entities. social science, economic science, modelling science, economic science, modelling science, sites. all of that science plays in as advice to government and government makes the decision. any time, it makes a decision there is a risk that the other party in the risk that the other party in the risk is the public. and it is good for the public to hear the modellers, that alerts them to the fa ct modellers, that alerts them to the fact that even though they could do more from monday, the need to remember that the disease is still around and the disease is a killing disease. it is not about, it is all over, it is about we can take some steps but we still need to use personal hygiene, we still need to wash our hands, not touch their eyes and our mouth, we are a mask and a crowd as police, social distance. the other thing about the track and trace programme, when it was talked about, the royal society produced a report which said it will add up to about 15% of the protection against covid, the race will be about things like hygiene and washing of hands. it is important we get the context about how track and trace runs. one final point about track and trace, it is important, there are many health professionals in the country who are used to contact tracing. every local authority director of public health understands contact tracing. public health england health protection teams, highly trained, they are tier three in the track and trace system, they are they are, they are already working through the system and are very aware of what needs to be done as the surveillance is ongoing in the population, looking at we are cases arrive in different areas and we need to go perhaps to local lockdown in future. we need to see this in the round and remember that it is the round and remember that it is the politicians who are taking the risk when they make these decisions having listened to the advice of the scientists. professor sally bloomfield, what is interesting is what people here, what everyday people here from government, from scientists, when the conflicting advice comes through, or reports come through of conflicting behaviours, people think, i will use my ownjudgment. behaviours, people think, i will use my own judgment. you behaviours, people think, i will use my ownjudgment. you have behaviours, people think, i will use my own judgment. you have said people need to be more mindful than they want to be and feel they should be at this time. it is now incumbent on as to make sensible decisions. not a lot has changed. the principles have remained the same. one of the principles, social distancing, means keeping two metres apart but it also means making sure that you are not spreading it by respiratory means, you are not getting it on your hands and spreading it that way. my fear is that the word gathering is going to be taken as, we can have a party in the garden now. that is not the thing to do. scotland has specified it and said note sharing utensils. i have been at work all week, i could be infected, i could still feel healthy, but i am shedding the virus now. that is a risk. one in 400 probably is in that situation. i would come along to you, to a barbecue, tojoin you. we could sit apart and stop the disability part of transmission that whatever i try and do, —— stop that respiratory part, i bring a bottle along with me, had that bottle to you, you open it, somebody else picks it up, handling food, soon you have got that by this travelling around on everybody's hands. that by this travelling around on eve rybody's hands. you that by this travelling around on everybody's hands. you have really got to think. we could have a picnic, each bring our own picnic and do not share it with other people. how do you think people are going to interpret the idea that the scientific advisory committee as they are yet to look at devolved nations and here are the messages, wheels is stay local, scotland is a stay at home, england is stay alert, and there are different numbers as to how many people from different households can meet in a group. if all the science is the same why is it so different? the reproduction rate is not drastically different. what does that mean?” rate is not drastically different. what does that mean? i do not think the advice is that different. it is allowing families to meet in small numbers. but stressing that social distancing, physical distancing, preventing the transmission from mouth to hand, those are still the fundamental principles. we just moved from place to place. i think sex is important, a small number is important. —— ithink sex is important, a small number is important. —— i think six is important, a small number is important. if it was a bigger gathering its starts to become difficult. that is the key, if people gather and that is a problem then you can immediately stop that line of infection spreading further. ido line of infection spreading further. i do not think it is that different. the science cannot tell as six, not five or seven. i look at comments of jeremy farrar and people will read these for themselves today, who said, covid s spreading too fast for lockdown to be lifted in england. that is unequivocal. is it too much? you are not here to speak for the siege advisors, i understand that. but if people are to hear, would it be reasonable that if the scientists are making the call about lockdown people would? it is a reasonable assumption that we do not live in that sort of world. there are other drivers. there are issues around mental health and stress, particularly around families that have not seen each other. being able to meet, and ifully concur, we need to meet, and ifully concur, we need to be careful when we meet, i agree if picnic is better than a barbecue, to everything you can to reduce the spread. at the same time get that thrill of seeing your family and friends, but be very careful. undoubtedly if it was the model they would be seeing, it is not yet safe, that numbers do not indicate that it is safe enough. sorry to interrupt, but if that is the case, if that modellers are seeing it is not right, and you are saying it is reasonable to assume that the scientists are casting doubt on this political decision, then surely something needs to change? the alignment needs to come back, doesn‘t it? alignment needs to come back, doesn't it? what we need to see is we need to see that the numbers are going down and we all have our part to play on that. i keep going back to play on that. i keep going back to this idea that it is about what we do as well as anything else. keeping the social hygiene messages is important. there are different groups of scientists who may be giving different advice. i am not on siege, i do not know. but there is a huge amount of stress and strain that goes along with not being able to see your friends and family and being able to see them, albeit at a distance, may help people is mental health and may help them live with lockdown and may help them comply better. there is always the issue of compliance with advice and we have not touched on that today. to get people to comply the need to understand the risks are still there and the need to weigh up the risks for themselves and then hopefully apply that in their behaviour. that isa apply that in their behaviour. that is a very good point. thank you. something we will be looking at next week. thank you both very much this morning for your time. it is worth seeing, there are varieties and exactly when and how these various measures are coming in across the uk. do check the details as it affects you where you are. that changes are, in england and wales, coming in on monday. at the moment, as you were in england and we are is, in scotland those changes are in force. in scotland and northern ireland those are in effect now. let as find out what the weather is like this morning. and we can show you how beautiful it is it‘s all fired. not oxford, that is it‘s all fired. not oxford, that is salford. that is the view outside our sinister —— outside our studio. this is one thing that all four nations of the uk can‘t share in. this shot comes from a weather watcher on the coast in north yorkshire. sunny skies through the weekend. very warm as well. the scams during what has already been the sunniest spring on record with over 570 hours of sunshine. we will add to those totals this weekend because high pressure is in charge. an easterly breeze on the southern flank of that high pressure area, you will notice the strength of that on north sea coast. cloud across england and wales. foreground year. this cloud here is wispy high cloud. it will turn sunshine hazy at times. generally, blue skies and sunshine. with that easterly breeze which you will notice the effects of on the east coast. when we look at the temperatures you can see some contrast. in aberdeen this afternoon, 16 degrees, in inverness, 24 degrees. parts of northern scotla nd 24 degrees. parts of northern scotland yesterday got to 28 degrees. we will not be too far behind that today. western counties are northern ireland, 24. always a bit cooler for are northern ireland, 24. always a bit coolerfor some north are northern ireland, 24. always a bit cooler for some north sea coast. whatever you temperature it does not really matter. the sun is still strong. high uv levels across most parts of the country. we that in mind if you are out for any length of times. clear skies through the night. cloud and ford are likely to work on overnight temperatures dropping to 7 degrees in newcastle, 13 degrees in cardiff. tomorrow, more of the same. one or two patches of mist and fog early. a greater chance tomorrow that people see patchy clouds developing across england and wales. temperatures on the cool site on eastern coast, further west, 26 or 27. some people are looking for rain and as we go into next week high pressure not too far away but it looks like we will see a frontal system from the north, that brings potential for rain from many parts of the uk. as that rain moves through it will bring something cooler. for the time being, dry and sunny. when 15—year—old sirine jahangir lost her eyesight five years ago, she turned to her love of music. now sirine has become something of a star after impressing the britain‘s got talentjudges with her singing and piano skills. the bbc asian network‘s shabnam mahmood has been catching up with her. from an early age sirine jahangir has had a passion for singing. but she only started taking music seriously after losing her sight at the age of ten stop when i lost my site i could not look out that window any more. my window any more. my dad did not know what to do so he put the music app load. i remember smiling so much, laughing and singing along. i first started writing when i was six. i used to write about princesses, best friends, ponies. as i grew princesses, best friends, ponies. as igrew up princesses, best friends, ponies. as i grew up and started to face more difficulties i find it hard to express my emotions and tell people how i felt. what i would do is i would write about it and i would sink my emotions rather than see them. —— singh my emotions. —— sing my emotions. up —— sing my emotions. upfiu —— sing my emotions. up till now sirinejahangir —— sing my emotions. up till now sirine jahangir has been performing at home for her family but an appearance on reality show britain‘s got talent has led to the appreciation of millions around the world. i have never done anything like it. to be appreciated for it is amazing. she is now one of the favourites to reach the final of the competition. she is hoping to inspire other teenagers. you have got to start somewhere. she could be start —— part of the next ta ke could be start —— part of the next take that. speaking of take that, robbie williamsjoined take that. speaking of take that, robbie williams joined take that and they had a virtual concert. headlines coming up injust a moment. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. here‘s a summary of this morning‘s main news. two of the government‘s leading scientific advisers have questioned the decision to ease the lockdown in england. sirjeremy farrar and professorjohn edmunds say ministers are taking risks by allowing the gradual reopening of shops and schools, while there are still thousands of new infections confirmed every day. the government has insisted it is proceeding with caution. there have been violent protests in cities across the united states after the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. an officer, who was filmed kneeling on george floyd‘s neck has been charged with murder. overnight, demonstrators clashed with police in new york, atlanta, los angeles and washington, where the white house was briefly locked down after a large crowd gathered outside. in minneapolis, the city‘s mayor has pleaded for the violence to stop. there are calls for the government to do more to help hundreds of thousands of small businesses and self—employed people who aren‘t covered by coronavirus support programmes. the chancellor has extended the job retention furlough scheme and support for self—employed workers, while asking employers to pay more from august. the government says it‘s talking to every sector of the economy to see where it could offer further help. those are the main stories this morning. saturday morning, mike has the support for us this morning and it is the ongoing conversation about what sport looks like in the weeks and months ahead. yes, there has been an ongoing debate about whether to use neutral venues. nb and leaguer they have not done that and there were objections against that —— bundesliga. they thought they lose some kind of advantage with not having that familiarity being at home. when the premier league season, resumes, in less than three weeks, most matches will be played, as normal, at home and away grounds, albeit behind closed doors, but liverpool may have to clinch the premier title at a neutral venue, according to the national lead for football policing. it‘s to stop fans gathering outside to celebrate. deputy chief constable mark roberts, says that up to six fixtures could be moved, including the mersyside derby, plus any game in which liverpool could secure the title. now, merseyside police say they have no objections to matches being played in the city, but the final decision would be made nationally. players are being told to maintain social distancing when they celebrate a goal. we have seen in germany players reprimanded for hugging and getting carried away after scoring, and even though they will be in full contact during play, crystal palace and england star andros townsend, has been speaking about the need for caution, to dan on this week‘s football focus. when you score a goal, the team—mates, they run to you, they congratulate you, and we are being told we need to keep our distance as much as possible. obviously, during the combat of the game you cannot do that, so i think that is going to be the most difficult part and you‘re going to have to consciously remember, after each goal you score, to kind of celebrate sensibly. more on that in football focus at 12 noon, and today it‘s live from the walker home studio, so who knows what will happen with dog winnie, and that‘s followed by a special show on south american football stars. now, we are just a few weeks away from seeing andy murray back in competitive action for the first time since november. before lockdown he was injured, but will now compete in a new "battle of the brits" competition organised by jamie murray. the event to mark the return of professional tennis will see the eight best british men, competing against each other, behind closed doors at roehampton and it will help raise money for nhs charities. i hope they use the grass courts, grass courts in june, i hope they use the grass courts, grass courts injune, it will maybe feel like wimbledon?” grass courts injune, it will maybe feel like wimbledon? i think tennis fa ns feel like wimbledon? i think tennis fans will be grateful for anything, just to see some action, it will be lovely. their rivalry in the late eighties made "a question of sport" one of the most popular quiz shows on tv, and now bill beaumont and ian botham are back for another round. they‘ll be joining up with current skippers matt dawson and phil tuffnell for a podcast special ahead of the show‘s 50th series next month. bill and mattjoin us now. that is via the joys of zoom and modern technology. matt, do you want to kick it off, if you excuse the sporting pun, with the idea behind bringing it back and getting some of the veteran performer is back on, if i may say that. morning everybody. and you have said that, i will leave bill to respond to that. the radio show has gone really well over the last few weeks, with having such a fantastic celebration of the question of sport, for the 50 years, and we have spoken to bbc breakfast about that a couple of times. it has been a brilliant year and even though the show is still on because we managed to get a lot of recordings done in march and the lack of live sports, we just thought it would be a great idea to get some sports stars and of course it then it progressed. every saturday we we re it progressed. every saturday we were doing these shows and we thought let‘s have a little special and we always know, if you are a captain ora and we always know, if you are a captain or a former captain, you are going to be mad keen for trivia and particularly sports trivia, so we asked two of the greatest captains of the show to come back on. they said yes, because of course they are not really that busy on a saturday these days. i'm very glad they did and one of those, bill he was listening at the moment, can ijust ask, good morning bill, by the way, ask, good morning bill, by the way, a lot of people will remember very fondly you being on the programme all those years ago. can ijust ask, was it a naturalfit all those years ago. can ijust ask, was it a natural fit for you at the time? were you born to be on television? because i always slightly got the impression it took a little while for you. it was something that, i think you are always nervous when you are out of your normal environment and that was what i was when i first started. but idid it what i was when i first started. but i did it for 14 years and that has ove rta ke n i did it for 14 years and that has overtaken my record now —— matt has ove rta ke n overtaken my record now —— matt has overtaken and i have been described as worse things than a veteran, by the way. it was very much a part of the way. it was very much a part of the beaumont family, going to the studios in manchester, and i absolutely love the programme and worked with others and we had a lot of fun. that is the trick, isn't it? it isa of fun. that is the trick, isn't it? it is a lot of fun and a lovely picture of you on screen at the moment. what it will say very competitive. ridiculously so. was it that way with you and ian botham? absolutely. you wanted to win. all i tried to do was to ensure that the guests enjoyed themselves and that they wanted to come back on the programme. what you do not want to do, and! programme. what you do not want to do, and i think matt reiterated, you don't want to make it full of somebody does make a fall of somebody does make a fall of somebody if they are nervous. sue barker has been fantastic. can i just ask as well, one of the things people take for granted now, when it first started, it was an opportunity to see sports stars and a bit of their character, which in those days you basically never did. you saw them doing the sport and that was it but this was a moment in time when you saw the many different environment, as bill described a moment ago. i am not sure that has totally changed. i think we have plenty of people writing to us, commenting on social media, that maybe most of the time we see these olympians, paralympian ms, world cup winners, etc, they are doing the interview and because those characteristics of a question of sport presenters, we do want to look after the contestants sport presenters, we do want to look after the co ntesta nts a nd sport presenters, we do want to look after the contestants and we want them to enjoy themselves and once they get over the fear of the home question, which has not changed in 50 yea rs by question, which has not changed in 50 years by the way, if they get that, you start to see the twinkle in their eye that, you start to see the twinkle in theireye and that, you start to see the twinkle in their eye and their normal character and they enjoy it. as you mentioned, you came on the show and you commented on the competitive spirit. i seem to remember you being extreme to competitive yourself. you cannot help but to be competitive when you are enjoying yourself in that normal trivia environment. of course. bill, tell me, the captains can get into quite some interesting positions, shall i say, especially during the last round when they are describing a sport. are we going to see you embracing that side, getting out from behind the desk?” see you embracing that side, getting out from behind the desk? i think we are both complaining about bad backs and bad knees. after a history of sport, i think i will leave that to matt and phil to do. ian and i will ta ke matt and phil to do. ian and i will take a more relaxed approach to the programme. tell me about the strategy, because it is you and matt against ian and phil. why are you two going to win? i‘m going to assume you think you‘re going to win? we are absolutely confident, no doubt about it. we are up the win andl doubt about it. we are up the win and i would like to think matt has a winning record, i have a winning record, so hopefully we will do 0k. cani record, so hopefully we will do 0k. can ijust record, so hopefully we will do 0k. can i just ask you, sorry matt, carry on. i wasjust going to say, if anyone has watched a question of sport over the years, it is bill beaumont, he knows everything. the gau ntlet beaumont, he knows everything. the gauntlet is laid down, you‘d better delivered now. you are now world by delivered now. you are now world rugby chairman and recently took over that role. there are so many questions for so many sports about what can happen next. because of the nature of rugby and the full contact sport, people are really struggling with how, in what way, can it exist? can you give us some insight into what the thinking is currently from your level and going down towards the clubs? i think from our level, i was reappointed, i have been the chairman for the last four years i got reappointed at the start of the la st got reappointed at the start of the last month, one that i'm looking forward to is looking forward to driving the game forward. i think, looking at it, if we knew when the sanctions were going to be lifted and people could start contact, then it would be a lot easier to plan. what we have done it, we have come up what we have done it, we have come up witha what we have done it, we have come up with a set of variation, more variations that countries, if they wanted to try them, then they would be able to do so. so it is less scrums, less line—outs and basically lesser physical contact. but that is up lesser physical contact. but that is up to each individual country whether they want to try that. so, cani whether they want to try that. so, can ijust whether they want to try that. so, can i just ask whether they want to try that. so, can ijust ask on whether they want to try that. so, can i just ask on that, whether they want to try that. so, can ijust ask on that, i know it matters listening with interest, maybe this is a conversation you have had before, but on that note, is it conceivable that scrums as they know them can carry on in the aftermath of coronavirus as it is still a live issue? you said it is possibly the choice of the different organisations but realistically is that something that could carry on? in new zealand, for instance, where they basically, there is no more coronavirus in the country, so they are resuming full physical contact by, are resuming full physical contact rugby, i think, are resuming full physical contact rugby, ithink, in are resuming full physical contact rugby, i think, in a couple of weeks. but it is only when we get testing, vaccines, etc, when i think we can be absolutely confident. but because of the physical aspect of the game of rugby, it makes it very difficult when we are told we have to keep two metres apart, you just cannot do that on a rugby field. matt, what are your thoughts on that? yes, this is only my view, but u nfortu nately, that? yes, this is only my view, but unfortunately, i just cannot see the game getting back to as we would expect, international or first—class by expect, international or first—class rugby for a while, because of what bill hasjust said. rugby for a while, because of what bill has just said. the game rugby for a while, because of what bill hasjust said. the game is fundamentally different if you were trying to play the game by the suggested laws that world rugby have come to, because they want people to enjoy the game and carry on playing sport and rugby in their own environments but to be competitive and that area, the rules need to be the same or pretty much the same and that involves a huge amount of contact, not only in the game but in training as well. there will be a lot of players around the world who will not be comfortable in those types of environments, training and playing, because it could potentially affect them and their families and people around them. it is going to be a tricky one. u nfortu nately, is going to be a tricky one. unfortunately, just by the nature of by, unfortunately, just by the nature of rugby, i think we are probably going to be right at the back end of time that the supporters have to wait to see it. that is my view but i guess, from what i have been picking up, it is also just to be reality of the position we are in. it is interesting to get your views on that, because there are so many sports fans out there and rugby fans who are keen to know what is going on. bill beaumont, matt dawson, good luck, you have laid the gauntlet down. we will listen with interest. take care. here‘s ben with a look at this morning‘s weather. glorious sunshine for so many of us, is it going to continue? it is certainly going to continue through this weekend. i would not be expecting any big changes over the next couple of days and look what a lovely start to the date it has been on the north—east coast of england. scenes like this across most parts of the day this morning. dry, sunny and very warm pretty much sums up this weekend. this is after what has already been the sunniest spring on record, more than 570 hours of sunshine on average across the uk and we will add to that total over the next couple of days. high pressure sitting across scandinavia. the winds around flowing in clockwise direction which will feed a fairly cool easterly breeze. this is the satellite picture, one or two lumps of cloud but mostly clearing, some areas of high cloud across northern ireland and scotland, turning the sunshine here yes, a little hazy at times, but generally speaking, it is a sunny day. just a bit of patchy, fair weather cloud bubbling as the day goes on, but you will notice the strength of that east or south easterly wind, particularly close to north sea coast. if we look at temperatures, you can see some variation, 16 in aberdeen this afternoon but 24 in inverness. yesterday, parts of northern scotland got to 28 degrees, i will expect there will be areas today that are not too far behind. western counties of northern ireland with that dilemma because some shelter from that breeze, 24, but againa shelter from that breeze, 24, but again a little bit cooler for some of those north sea coasts. but the strength of the sun not dependent at all on the temperature, so whether it is warm or a little bit cooler when you are, a strong sunshine, high uv when you are, a strong sunshine, high uv levels across most parts of the uk. as we go through this evening and tonight, it is fine with clear skies. some areas of low cloud and fog perhaps rolling in from the north sea and overnight temperatures are generally between eight and 13, so are generally between eight and 13, so not a particularly cold night. entered tomorrow, again some early fog around and that could linger close to some of these eastern coasts but look at the map, when you do not see cloud, that is where we are expecting sunshine. there will be plenty of it again. just a bit of patchy cloud. temperatures highest in the west. always a little bit cooler with the breeze it closed to those north sea coasts. many would like some rain, gardeners and growers particularly. next week to ask if it is a chance. this frontal system putting in from the north. also be potential for system putting in from the north. also be potentialfor some thundery showers to spin up from the south, but as we develop more of a northerly wind, one thing you notice as it will turn cooler during next week. whatever the symbols that say, even down towards the south of the uk, there is a greater chance of seeing some rain which will be good news for many i‘m sure. at the weekend, not many changes, dry, largely sunny and very warm.“ looks good, thank you. a wildlife charity is warning of the dangers of plastic pollution, after seeing an increase in the number of injured seals in norfolk. this week, a grey seal named galactica was spotted on a beach with netting tangled around her neck. she was rushed for treatment at an rspca centre, where we can catch up with her and centre manager alison charles now. this is a story that actually makes me quite mad to hear it isjust careless discarding of the fishing nursing that is causing so much distress to such a beautiful animals. yes, we are seeing an increase, we did not to see it until 2008 but since then it has been on the increase. i think they are just a small proportion of what is out there in the sea, they are the lucky ones that get coming here. galactica is splashing about, obviously. she had this blue netting around her. can you show her to us? yes, there is the netting. we are struggling to hear you above galactica‘s rumbles, but what i can see is the red welt around her neck and i am assuming thatis around her neck and i am assuming that is where the netting was caught out. yes, it was around her neck and cutting. it sounds... she is a safe, of course, but what i will say, because the sound quality is not great, just a message from you perhaps, to anyone, some people are allowed to go out fishing now, if you are out and have the nuts out, just be mindful. absolutely, if you are out and you have huge fishing gear, please be very careful with the net, because it is causing more and more accidents. —— the nets out. thank you for the good work you are doing. good luck to galactica and let‘s hope the message gets through. if you are out, think of the others and the rest of this planet. and love to galactica, take care. last a little look at the camera out there. interesting sound effect because it was partly to do with the acoustics of the room and everything. but on the mend, i think is what we can say. it is 8:50am. it was a big night for fans of take that, as the group reunited with robbie williams for a one—off charity performance — but, of course, this wasn‘t your average concert. robbie, gary, mark and howard belted out their classics from home, streaming the action online. let‘s have a look. # never forget where you've come here from # never pretend that it's all real # some day soon this will be someone else's dream # this will be someone else's dream # we have come so far # and we've reached so high # and we looked each day and night in the eye # and we're still so young # and we hope for more # but remember this # we're not invincible, we're not invincible # we're only people, we're only people # we're not invincible, we're not invincible even with a crowd! # we're not invincible ok, here we go! # so, again i tell you... # never forget where you've come here from # never pretend that it's all real # some day soon this will all be someone else's dream # this will be someone else's dream #. what you will not know is that both charlie and i were doing that. listening to that i was thinking, amazingly good quality recording, we would expect nothing else. you felt the energy. take that superfan katie booth was watching the action and joins us now. morning! what did you think?” thought it was really good. was disappointed at jason did not turn up disappointed at jason did not turn up but! disappointed at jason did not turn up but i wasn't really expecting that, but even robbie has my heart on this one, i must admit. how many songs were that they performed and how did the fans know about this? 0k, how did the fans know about this? ok, so at the start it was three members of take that now did a couple of songs together, then robbie joined, then they did another three together, then they did an encore, which if you signed up for various things that you could see another two songs and robbie had the la st another two songs and robbie had the last word, as he always does. katie, i‘m not sure what your circumstances have been during lockdown, but eve ryo ne have been during lockdown, but everyone needs a bit of a lift, don‘t they? i dare say, this had the desired for you? it did. i have been classed in the vulnerable categories they have been in lockdown for 12 weeks now, cannot go out and do anything. working from home and this has been a huge boost, not only to my love of take that bit to mental health as well. you do not have to bea health as well. you do not have to be a massive fan of the band to appreciate, like you said before, great pop tunes. your hands are in the air, you didn't know you know the air, you didn't know you know the songs and you are singing along. they are great showman, all four of them. it is interesting you say that. i know you‘re not here to talk about shielding and isolating, but how do you feel about what you have been told in terms of how long you should be shielding the messages that you are getting from the health department and the government, how do you feel? at the start it was very clear, especially for me. you are on certain medication for your asthma, therefore you must not go out or have contact or go to work. very clear. i think over the previous few weeks, as much as i like borisjohnson, ithink previous few weeks, as much as i like borisjohnson, i think he previous few weeks, as much as i like borisjohnson, ithink he is doing a good job, i think it has now become mixed messages put up can you have a barbecue, can you not? can you meet up with your mother, can you meet up with your mother, can you not? i don't seem to know when i can go back to the shops or to work, does it apply to all of us orjust healthy people? that is interesting. back to the take that concert, i‘m thinking one thing that must be lovely about it is that there is a sense at the moment, because of lockdown and what is happening at the moment, that whoever you are, it is not necessarily terribly easy, and seeing those guys doing what they are doing, i know they chatted a bit as well to fans, too, there is something really lovely about that, it isn‘t there? something really lovely about that, it isn't there? yes, i think my favourite bit of the whole concept was when they were just laughing and joking together, being silly, doing the wrong lyrics, i like to see that banter between them, that is the best bit for me. because i've had all the songs millions of times and they are wonderful and i love seeing them interact with each other, it really did cheer me up. how long have you been a fan? i am giving my age away, and 39 now, 40 next year and have been a fan since i was about 11 or 12, since the first came out. it was your favourite? mark, it always has been. it's kind of does not work, because i have a picture of you with gary. i love gary, i have met him a few times. but mark has always been my teenage heart—throb and still is if he shaved that must off. and a couple of tatties, you are committed? there is one. —— tattoos. i have to take that tattoos, my dad was not very pleased but that is my dedication for you. take that set up a facebook page, it is a closed account and you have have permission tojoin page, it is a closed account and you have have permission to join and page, it is a closed account and you have have permission tojoin and it isa have have permission tojoin and it is a wonderful community for any take that fans. we post our memories and what we are looking forward to and what we are looking forward to and we support each other with lockdown and other things before that, so take that is a family. i think it was lulu who said a take that fan is more of a disciple and we are all part of that family. glad you are ok. good luck with the rest of lockdown for you. thank you. thank you very much for your time. that is the best wave of the day. something to could you this morning about cats. there was a story, we are worried about our pets, not least because they are getting a lot of attention because everyone is at home and what happens when we are not at home? the question was specific to cats, look out in case they start to get grumpy. i pose the question, do you think you know from your cats expression if it is grumpy or not? lo and behold, lots of pictures. thank you for engaging with this. this is shona cat megan and she has turned to her ankle swiping because she is grumpy and heat. maria‘s cat wasn‘t too happy about her inflatable unicorn hat. why would you be? julia said this is the look tilly gives her when she wants fed. the last few pictures that you said it wasn‘t that much of a grumpy face but this is a stern face at least?” think that says to me i‘m above all this. if you know your cat, you do know the expressions are very well. su btleties know the expressions are very well. subtleties are probably lost on those who do not know. often, it is disdain. and this was taken on 5 year old florence‘s birthday — although billie the cat wasn‘t as excited. that is my favourite so far. a pretty cat. thank you for sending your pictures, we might try and sneak some more in in the next hour if we are allowed. good morning and welcome to breakfast. our headlines today. scientists warn relaxing lockdown is still too risky, amdist fears the warm weather this weekend could lead people to ditch social distancing. protestors clash with police in cities across the us, on the fourth night of demonstrations following the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. an officer has been charged with murder. the appropriate charge in this case was murder. we still have a long way to go. liverpool may have to clinch the premier league title away from the city, at a neutral venue, with six fixtures set to be moved, at the request of national police bosses to avoid fans gathering outside. it has already been declared the sunniest spring on record around the uk. more than 570 hours of sunshine so uk. more than 570 hours of sunshine so farand we uk. more than 570 hours of sunshine so far and we will be adding to that total with more sunny weather this weekend. it‘s saturday, the 30th of may. our top story. two of the government‘s leading scientific advisers have questioned the decision to ease the lockdown in england. sirjeremy farrar and professorjohn edmunds say ministers are taking risks by allowing the gradual reopening of shops and schools, while there are still thousands of new infections confirmed every day. their warning comes amid fears that this weekend‘s warm weather will encourage people to ignore the rules on social distancing. charlotte rose has the latest. ahead of the official easing of lockdown restrictions in england on monday beaches and beauty spots have already seen increasing crowds. with more hot weather expected this weekend there are fears some people are ditching social distancing. scots can now meet in groups of up to eight in parks and gardens. they must not enter each other‘s homes and must follow the two metre rules. some sports will now also be allowed. in wales an unlimited number of people from two households can meet outside from monday but they must stay within five miles of their own home. people in northern ireland can already meet in groups of up to six. from the 8th ofjune weddings with a maximum of ten people will be allowed to —— may be allowed. in england‘s government believes they have made positive steps to tackle the virus. we are past the peak, we are flattening the curve, past the peak, we are flattening the curve , we past the peak, we are flattening the curve, we have protected the nhs, and the number of deaths is falling. over the coming weeks we can now ta ke over the coming weeks we can now take careful but deliberate steps to reopen our economy. but the site is to advise the government about the spread of the virus have warned it is too early to be lifting lockdown. that director of the welcome trust who sits on the scientific advisory group for emergencies, siege, tweeted last night to see infection rates have to be lower and the test, trace and isolate group set up by the government needs to prove it is working before restrictions are eased. he is not a lone voice. the government here in westminster clearly made a decision that this is the sort of level of incidents that they are willing to tolerate. the uk is reporting something like 2000 cases per day. italy about 300 cases per day. germany about 400 cases per day. that level of incidents here in the uk is a significantly higher. yesterday a further 324 people died of coronavirus taking the total to 38,161. just one of the stories behind those figures is that of hospital porter mike brown. yesterday his colleagues lined the streets to clap his funeral car tyres. hundreds came to pay their respects for a man described as down to earth. —— funeral cortege. his story is a reminder of why getting the right balance of opening up the economy while keeping infection rates are low matters so much. let‘s get more now from our political correspondent, jonathan blake, whojoins us from our london newsroom. we have been talking about what the sciences and the message we have had from the government, sticking to the line is that we are being guided by the scientific advice, yet when you see this contradiction it makes people think what should i listen to now? yes, it does. there is clearly a nervousness among some of the scientists advising the government about what ministers have decided to do, adding to the criticism we heard yesterday, a further two members of the scientific advisory group for emergencies have come out this morning and said that they share the concerns. a professorfrom the university of liverpool has said he thinks the decision has been made politically to time with when schools would start. he said this is not normal, we are still seeing high levels of transmission. another member, from university of oxford, said the test and trace programme needs to be fully operational for lockdown measures to be relaxed safely and he is concerned that that is not the case at the moment. at every turn the government has said it is guided by the science but what these comments show is that there is no consensus among the scientists advising the government about what the next step should be. and it is ministers at the end of the day you have to take decisions on the basis of the scientific advice they are getting but also on the potential impact of the lockdown measures on the economy and peoples well—being. these comments will show that looking back on these decisions that ministers did not take them without warning and without risk. violent demonstrations have broken out in several cities in the united states, in protest at the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. in minneapolis, protesters have defied a curfew and buildings have been set alight, while georgia has declared a state of emergency. our correspondent barbara plett—usher has just sent this report from minneapolis. minneapolis is under curfew but the city is still burning. outrage over the police killing of an unarmed black man has consumed people here forfour black man has consumed people here for four days with st protests, also arson and looting. the state deployed the national guard to restore order and local officials moved unusually quickly to charge a police officer with third—degree murder and manslaughter. he is the one individual kneeling on that neck of george floyd fought nearly nine minutes while george floyd called out again and again that he could not believe and then stopped moving. the governor of minnesota has said that he expects a swifterjustice but the question is whether that will be enough to quell the raid that has —— quell the rage ignited here and now spread across the country. the protests have spread and grown. in los angeles demonstrators clashed with police officers. in manhattan they marched also in memory of eric garner, a new york man, who gasped forair ina garner, a new york man, who gasped for air in a police chokehold before he died. in atla nta, he died. in atlanta, one of the biggest protests turned violent, angling the mayor. what i see happening on the streets of atlanta is not atlanta. this is not a protest. this is not in the spirit of martin luther king jr. this is chaos. the wave of demonstrations reached right to the doorstep of the president, the white house was in lockdown late friday evening. donald trump gave his first extensive remarks on the process earlier. a violent situation like happened in minneapolis, to descend further into lawless anarchy and chaos, and we understand that very well, it is very important i believe to the family, to everybody, that that memory of george floyd be a perfect memory. america is reeling. in the middle of a pandemic, suffering its worst economic crisis since the great depression. now once again watching its racialfault lines explode. president trump has announced he is ending the united states‘ relationship with the world health organisation. he‘s accused it of failing to hold beijing to account over the pandemic and said funds will be directed to other areas. the us is the global health agency‘s largest single contributor, providing more than £324 million last year. there are calls for the government to do more to help hundreds of thousands of small businesses and self—employed people who aren‘t covered by coronavirus support programmes. the chancellor has extended the job retention furlough scheme and support for self—employed workers, while asking employers to pay more from august. the government says it‘s talking to every sector of the economy to see where it could offer further help. we have had a glimpse once in awhile inside peoples homes. it could be someone we are to. inside peoples homes. it could be someone we are to. also some celebrities have filmed themselves. arnold schwarzenegger is today‘s example. look at this. wet as explain. his workouts are accompanied by one of his pets, a pet donkey. the former governor of california has other pets. a yorkshire terrier and a miniature horse. but it is the donkey that kept him company. that is a greatjump. you would think there might be hygiene issues. we will have the weather and the sport a little bit later on. as he announced further easing of england‘s lockdown this week, borisjohnson said millions of vulnerable people who‘ve been shielding from the virus should, for now, continue to do so. now health charities say the uncertainty over how long people will be expected to stay inside is causing anxiety and potentially putting their health at risk. rob smith was told he was vulnerable and hasn‘t been this is his story. shut away and nobody seems to be caring about what is happening to people like me. several weeks ago i found out i was part of the 1.5 million people that would be shielded from the outside world. it is funny, i was out there, doing everyday things like shopping, walking my dog, going to work. might worst scenario was staying in every day. that is why i go to work. it add purpose and structure to my day. now all my structure is, i get up day. now all my structure is, i get up in the morning, make a drink and watch telly. here we are. the highlights of my day. tea time. this is not life. this is not the way i want to live. iam not the way i want to live. i am watching my physical well—being deteriorate in front of me. after 15 yea rs of deteriorate in front of me. after 15 years of fighting my condition, trying to keep the wheelchair at b. it is better than nothing having a treadmill but it does not in any way a substitute for being outside walking. and of course i am not breathing fresh air, i am not outside getting my vitamin d. just trying to make the best of what i have got. sunday morning, my shopping has been brought round. standing a few feet away from her, it is very hard. you can talk to other people on the phone all day long but it does not explain that —— replace that interaction. and my dog has had to stay with my partner because i cannot take the dog for a walk. the company that a dog gives you is something you cannot replace. it is very frustrating being this side of the window. how long is this going to be for? there are people like me that would love to be out there walking in the sunshine. we would love to be set out in a garden, but we cannot. please do not forget about us. when you make that choice to go out and maybe not take the advice of the government on social distancing, you are not only putting yourself at risk, but you are potentially keeping people being shielded in for longer. first thing we should say, thank you for sharing that story. we‘re joined now by alison cook, from asthma uk and the british lung foundation. there is a couple of things that occurred to me there. real concerns, almost leaving aside the issue of why and how long people are shielding for, first, the psychological impact is manifest, heeding that story. it is really hard. he summed it up really well how it is for a lot of people. we have got 500,000 people who are classed as extremely vulnerable because of their lung condition. they are all struggling in some way with shielding. we know that most people find it really hard to shield but some people feel because they have not been able to follow the guidelines to the letter that somehow they are letting themselves down or theirfamily somehow they are letting themselves down or their family down but it is incredibly difficult to do for this length of time if you cannot see family and friends and you feel you can‘t go outside. i think it is going to become progressively harder to do this while everybody else is allowed to go out a little bit more and to see friends and relatives. the uncertainty of how long this goes on adds to that feeling of being alone and feeling worried and anxious. a lot of people are getting in touch with us this morning. this will not be a surprise given the work that you do. this is an example. it is from someone in scotland. someone who suffers from multiple sclerosis, irritable bowel syndrome, and asthma, who says, they never received a letter saying to self—isolate, feel ill, got pneumonia, had a bladder infection, had to spent seven or eight days in hospital, and was never told to shield. this is may be something new to some people. was it clear who should shield and who was in charge of telling people that they should shield? the process was that hospital consultants and gps would go through the records and make a decision about the patient tos they had about whether they should shield or not. the case highlights what we are seeing that everybody is an individual, what we would like to see is individual people being able to talk to their dr or hospital co nsulta nt to talk to their dr or hospital consultant about what is right for them, if shielding starts to lift. at the beginning shielding was about protecting the nhs as well as protecting the nhs as well as protecting the nhs as well as protecting the individual. we did not want all the people ending up in hospital at the same time because the nhs would not be able to provide the nhs would not be able to provide the key to everybody. if we are starting to see a shift towards knowing that the nhs can cope and this becomes all about individual people, and you need to have a conversation with your dr, to decide what your risk is. everybody is different. people have different appetites for what they want to do. i have been talking to somebody who has had a lung transplant. they want to shield until a vaccine is available, they think the risks are too high. somebody else, says they are probably approaching the end of their life and they want to be out there living their life again. you see that is what they think. what are they being told? some people, shielding is carrying on, but we know that some people have had a text this week cb should not be shielding but the gp did not know anything about it and they have no way to get advice to see whether that text is really meant for them and what this actually means. we know that some people have had letters with varying dates about when shielding comes to an end. what we would like to see is an amount of time before you shielding comes to an end where you can have a conversation with somebody who knows about you, and knows about the different issues you might have, so you are able to make a sensible decision about what is right for you, in terms of the risk that you might have to take —— might want to take. it is always tempting to talk about what happens next. we spoke to about what happens next. we spoke to adr about what happens next. we spoke to a dr this morning, who was expressing the point, i think you are mentioning a moment ago, which is how little gps have been involved in this process. you were talking about texts going directly to people, when gps know their patients, possibly they could be actively involved in helping people come to those decisions. he was seeing this morning he feels they have been ignored in this process. it has been varied. we know that gps we re it has been varied. we know that gps were prepared to give parents advice about them being worried about sending their children back to school if they had asthma but we know that gps have not been prepared for those texts going out. we would like them to be prepared and for individuals to be prepared as well, to have that discussion, if we see shielding starting to end for some people, about what they might want to do. not everybody will want to rush street outside. that risks are so rush street outside. that risks are so high and this is a virus, going from being locked inside to out into the world is a massive step for people and you need to have that clinical supportjust to people and you need to have that clinical support just to make people and you need to have that clinical supportjust to make you feel good about what you might do and to assess that individual risk for yourself. and to and to explain to your relatives and friends what you are going to do and why because they will be one of the bout you also. very briefly, you speak for asthma uk and the british lung foundation, as it stands, someone in one of those categories, you can shield, the most extreme version, as of today, what should they do actively, what should they do to determine what you should do next? still shielding, that is the advice. the people who have had a text to see you should no longer shield should contact their gp to ask them about it and what it means for them. for the vast majority of people they are still shielding and that has not changed at the moment but we are starting to look forward as a charity to win that might change and trying to make sure that doctors are prepared to help people make decisions about what they might do so decisions about what they might do so that people with asthma and chronic lung diseases might have more of an idea about what to do. thank you for your time. a lot of people are getting in touch with us about some examples about how confused they are. and if you want a warning about the rnli, seeing do not come to the coast. here‘s ben with a look at this morning‘s weather. glorious sunshine for most of the country. this is from the coast in dorset from one of our weather watchers. lots of dry, sunny and warm weather to camp this weekend. it is off the back of what has been a sunny spring. 570 hours of sunshine. high pressure is in charge. coastal areas, the southern flank of this area of high pressure, along the east coast there will be brisk easterly winds. that might make it feel on the cool side. these lumps of cloud, early fog which is leading away. some fog is still lingering across shetland. for the vast majority it is sunny skies that will take us through the day. some sunshine may be hazy across scotland and northern ireland. eight noticeable bodies which will make its cooler for some north sea coast. aberdeen, 16 degrees, inverness getting up to 24 degrees, parts of northern scotland yesterday got to 28 degrees, they will not be too far behind that today. western counties of northern ireland, 23, 24, western coast of england and wales, 24, 25. eastern coasts of england exposed to that buddies will be cooler but regardless of temperature as the sun is strong. high uv levels for all parts of the uk. this evening, clear skies for most but there will be some areas of low cloud. overnight temperatures between 7 degrees and 13 degrees. tomorrow, most of the early fog when it does or car will break up and left. long spells of sunshine, just a bit of patchy fear whether cloud here and there. highest temperatures in the west. think twice about coming to the coast — that‘s the warning from the rnli this weekend as warm weather the water—safety charity usually trains around 1,600 lifeguards to cover 240 beaches each summer — but this weekend, only 17 beaches will be patrolled. let‘s speak now to rnli safety manager, ross macleod, and kevin instance, who has been volunteering as a lifeguard in north cornwall. looking at you, looking at the view behind you, why would someone not come to the beach, enjoy the sunshine, when and if they are allowed under the current measures? but they need to be mindful. what is the message you want to get out? the coast guard is issuing a warning to remind people that lifeguards cannot be everywhere this summer. we are now on 17 beaches across england and there are a great number of volunteer life—savers doing a fantastic job at the volunteer life—savers doing a fantasticjob at the moment to dry to keep people safe. we want to remind people, without that additional ring of safety on some beaches where you may expect to find life guards normally, to think twice about coming at all, but certainly about coming at all, but certainly about going in the water. if you have any doubts about your ability in the water, or the conditions, we would advise you to stay out of the water, certainly not to take any unnecessary risks this weekend. why only 17 on duty? the rnli along with coastguard services has been affected by the pandemic. in the lifeguard service we normally have 250 beaches, 1200 regional staff, sorry, seasonal staff, that we train in march and april, opposite we were in lockdown, that affected as in our ability to relate lifeguards. it is ability to relate lifeguards. it is a contracted service with local authorities and landowners who are working hard to make sure we can come to the best solution. not only keeps the public safe that makes sure a safe environment for our lifeguards to be able to operate. things like social distancing and not forgetting that a lot of these lifeguards will be expected on occasions to be in close contact with people for things like first aid. we need to make sure all the right steps are in place to keep them safe in the public safe at the same time. let us go to cave in. good morning because i imagine you are looking enviously at ross on the beach. that looks beautiful. you are in north cornwall. you are going to be part of a volunteer operation which is very much not the same as what would normally be operating. can you tell us what you will be doing? albeit, lots of people doing those patrols will be lifeguards that are not currently working. they are trained, skilled, experienced on the beaches where they are working. we are working on its beaches, with 45 volunteers, people from the community, unemployed lifeguards, members of the surf life—saving club, will be out today. they have been out all week. giving advice. doing some of the work that lifeguards would have been doing if they had been there. warning people, giving advice about some of the safe places to be, some of the more risky activity we might see. any day, even though it is beautiful blue skies, things can happen very quickly. we felt it is important that we can use our skills, rather than being at home worrying about what is happening on the beaches, to get out on the beaches and give that advice and guidance that we are trained and capable of giving. i am interested in how this works in practice. i do not know if you have already been doing the same thing thus far. you are not police officers, you cannot tell people what to do and i imagine. what kind of problems have happened so far? what sort of things have the volunteers, your colleagues, had to deal with? we have had similar groups across the whole of the north cornwall coast this week. life—saving clubs have been out since easter doing these surveillance patrols. we are distinctly not lifeguarding, we are there to give advice, guidance. people do listen to that. what we are finding is that the beaches are probably quieter than they would be for a normal may bank holiday week but there are still lots of people around. there are people perhaps coming to the beach that would not normally be at the beach at this time of year. they are surprised how cold the water is. they are trying things for the first time. yesterday, calm conditions, a strong offshore winds, one of our lifeguards assisted a stomach paddle boarder back to the beach who went out, beautifully with the wind, when they turned round, they realised they turned round, they realised they had got it slightly wrong and he did support back. we feel we are there supporting emergency services, because that would have been a life put into action. we were able to safely, social distancing, prevent something escalating. ross, there is a clear message you wa nt to ross, there is a clear message you want to get out this morning?“ ross, there is a clear message you want to get out this morning? if in doubt, it is not the time for open water swimming for the first time. despite the lovely warm air temperatures, the water is still dangerously cold. it is 10—12dc. if you find yourself in difficulty in the water, extend your arms and legs, float to live. if you find somebody else in the water dialled 999 and ask for the coast guard. that way assistance can be got as soon as that way assistance can be got as soon as possible. all good advice. thank you. it is impossible not to enjoy the weather at the moment. it made me thinks... i would go for a cheese and pickle sandwich for a picnic. the other one, and someone else has already said it, is a porkpie, that is one of those things, those two things. you are sorted, aren‘t you? things, those two things. you are sorted, aren't you? for me, there is only one thing i need on a picnic blanket and that wine. matt, what would it be for you? way you at that? i wondered what was coming for a minute, i was getting excited. it isa a minute, i was getting excited. it is a scotch egg. good choice. i am with you, a mini scotch egg. no, it had to be a proper scotch egg. some hummus if you are having a middle class a picnic for top how about a quiche? no, i do not like keys. crack on. someone who is no stranger to morning broadcast, it is greg james. we will talk to you a little later, but for now, tell us about the ingredients you want some inspiration for. ok, so i have some broccoli, ricotta, some cheap custard which is my favourite and the only good custard. asparagus, and some eggs. hopefully, broccoli, custard and asparagus sandwich. what if you got for us today?” custard and asparagus sandwich. what if you got for us today? i have a grilled lamb cutlets and some aubergine fritters. very nice, look forward to that. helen is our drinks dynamo. good morning. good morning. excellent, i love that chart. have you done this before, helena? i will be making a couple of summary dishes. go to the website of the voting details and we will see you at 10am. helen is my kind of woman. they always seem to be having so much fun. we do, too. headlines coming up. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. here‘s a summary of this morning‘s main news. two of the government‘s leading scientific advisers have questioned the decision to ease the lockdown in england. sirjeremy farrar and professorjohn edmunds say ministers are taking risks by allowing the gradual reopening of shops and schools, while there are still thousands of new infections confirmed every day. the government has insisted it is proceeding with caution. there have been violent protests in cities across the united states after the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. an officer, who was filmed kneeling on george floyd‘s neck, has been charged with murder. overnight, demonstrators clashed with police in new york, atlanta, los angeles and washington, where the white house was briefly locked down after a large crowd gathered outside. in minnesota, the state‘s governor called for an end to the violence. there are calls for the government to do more to help hundreds of thousands of small businesses and self—employed people who aren‘t covered by coronavirus support programmes. the chancellor has extended the job retention furlough scheme and support for self—employed workers, while asking employers to pay more from august. the government says it‘s talking to every sector of the economy to see where it could offer further help. those are the main stories this morning. you may be one of those households where one or more of your children is due to go back to school in england on monday. we note that some schools have been open for key workers, but the numbers were limited. that is changing on monday. there are questions from parents and teachers of how safe schools might be. breakfast‘s john maguire got a group of parents together to get some answers from the experts. hello to everybody. hello! good to see you all. you could call these parents ‘baby zoomers‘ rather than baby boomers as that‘s how groups meet these days. all have children eligible to go back to primary school in england, but their opinions differ. this is about my 15th zoom call of the day. so we‘ve given them the chance to find out more and to ask the experts, such as virologist dr chris smith. how many under 11s with no underlying health conditions have been admitted with covid in the uk in the last month? right. well, i don‘t know the precise numbers, because i don‘t think anyone does, but what i can say is, reassuringly, these numbers are going to be very small. now, while there have been reports in recent weeks of this new disorder where there seems to be a severe inflammatory condition associated with covid, and we don‘t know what‘s causing this to happen, and it seems to be occurring in very young children, it is very, very rare, so the likelihood of this happening is extremely low and the likelihood of children having health problems with coronavirus is extremely low overall. are they likely to bring it back into the house just on surfaces they may have touched? there is a very good study in australia where what they did was to follow children and do fairly aggressive testing to see who had it, how many people they were in contact with and, therefore, how many people they gave it to. and the answer is that they give it to far fewer people than the average adult that‘s infected. now, you could say, well, is that because they are not breathing it out so much? or is it not on clothing? are they just less susceptible to it? but the bottom line is if they only give it to a very small number of individuals, regardless of the route of transmission, they are not giving it very many individuals. so it could be that theyjust don‘t produce very much virus. so whether it is coming through the air or on clothing, the risk is going to be very low. thank you! thank you so much. my pleasure. next up family doctor nighat arif. what are symptoms we should look for? is there anything obvious that is more focus on children? children children tend to get mostly symptoms like nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, they can get a temperature, but their temperature might be actually on the other side, lower, so they actually get lower temperatures. that is still considered as something we need to look out for. and in children, we always need to look out for signs of septicaemia. so any rashes that occur, that they are off their food. my rule of thumb for all parents and being a parent myself is that we get this amazing gut feeling that our baby isn‘t right, and if they are unwell, always talk to the doctor so that we get to go through the symptoms. i wanted to ask what advice gps have got for us to help our children cope with the mental health impact coming out of this as well, because it is huge. my guidance to parents is to be vigilant at home, see what social media your children are accessing, talk to your child, take some time out every day and talk to your child. and there are charities as well. so young minds is a fantastic charity, they provide so much support for parents, they can plug into, as well, how to communicate with your child. in fact, world health organization has also published phrases and things that you can say in order to communicate with your child and to help with their mental health. the bbc‘s education editorjoins the group to tell parents what schools are doing to plan for more children. my daughter is in year 6 and historically, the last six weeks of year 6 have been general muck about, played, not really learning anything because they have done all the heavy work already. i wonder what value that is sending children back to school if they are not learning? because i think it is unfair to use schools, just as a place of child care so parents can get back to work. they are trying to think about how they can prepare pupils to start at school, let‘s face it, they are going to start a new school at such a strange time. we don‘t even know that when they start high school in september, that they will be going full—time or will they still be having to take all these precautions? it seems highly likely. we are having to do two or three things, say goodbye to their primary school and their friends, to prepare them for high school and step up in learning, but also, to prepare them for the fact that even when they go back to school fully in september, it is not going to be the same. given that children can't socially distance, what are the main elements school will need to follow given some have said there will be no social distancing, we can't commit to that, we can only our best? what is the main advice to follow? social distancing will be incredibly difficult. most schools think they can probably manage with the older pupils because they would have been hearing from their mum and dad when they go for a walk or even the government has accepted that getting early years, getting reception classes to socially distance is probably going to be almost impossible. much of parenting is dealing with the unknown and the coronavirus presents challenges like never before. a group of parents can now tackle those challenges better informed and with some of the questions answered. john maguire, bbc news. let‘s speak now to the psychologist drjulie smith who joins us from hampshire this morning. good morning, thank you forjoining us. i hope you are hearing some of those questions and i suppose that what it reflects really is, everyone knows, every parent and child knows, what it is like to have school in your everyday life but that had been taken away your everyday life but that had been ta ken away and your everyday life but that had been taken away and it is a whole new world and that is difficult to get your head around —— to go to school in your everyday life and that will be different? yes, there will be a change in some of the rules and what children will be doing so it would be understandable if they feel a little bit anxious or unnerved, that will be normal and understandable. asa will be normal and understandable. as a child clinical psychologist, what is the impact, say, a child of any age, and you may want to break this into age groups, who it impacts more, of going into classes that may not necessarily be the same in terms of the same children in each class ona of the same children in each class on a day—to—day basis?” of the same children in each class on a day-to-day basis? i guess eve ryo ne on a day-to-day basis? i guess everyone is in a different situation and everyone is going to feel slightly different depending on their situation and not all children will be returning as well, so some people will be in families where they are shielded. the children going back, it depends on the individual as to how they feel and certainly, if we frame this whole thing in terms of, this is exciting for children to be able to go back, there might be some new rules, but they will get to see friends again and they have not done that for a number of weeks, it is a long time for schoolchildren particularly, to be away from their friends. if we can frame it in terms of this is a positive thing, they get to go back to the business of being children again, learning, having fun with their friends again, learning, having fun with theirfriends and again, learning, having fun with their friends and all they have to concern themselves with is following the rules as they normally do and the rules as they normally do and the grown—ups have the best in hand that we are taking care of their safety a nd that we are taking care of their safety and making those choices and decisions for them. in this world, the grown—ups themselves, understandably, are nervous and unsure of how it is all going to work, amid reports of whether or not it is safe and whether there is enough being organised, whether the equipment is there. so, how should adults, teachers or parents, be hiding or at least being open enough with their concerns without putting too much of a burden on the children? yes, i think it is really important to have a mix of honesty and reassurance. if you have concerns or worries, which will be normal, i think most parents do have some worry or concern, then get your questions answered by, be it teachers, or medical professionals, depending on the question, and if you are reassured by this answer is, then share those with your children and explain why you are feeling positive about them at returning. having that honesty, but with that reassurance again that we have this in hand, those big decisions offer us to make as grown—ups, so that the children can focus on being kids and having fun. i suppose it is also making sure you are asking them if they are concerned about anything rather than waiting for the question is? yes, absolutely. spend time talking to your children but use open questions, so ask you things like, what do you think about this? or how do you feel? rather than something like do you feel anxious or worried? because something like do you feel anxious or worried ? because particularly something like do you feel anxious or worried? because particularly for small children, they might pick up on that and think maybe i should feel worried about this. having open discussions about what do you think, what are your thoughts, and let them talk openly about how they feel and just showing understanding and showing that any strange feelings they may encounter are normal at this point. it is interesting that in this new world we are in and the way we talk to our guests has changed as well and once upon a time i would not have thought of asking this, but i will ask you, as a mum and a parent, how are you coping with the anxiety of sending your own children back to school? yes, i have three and they are aged one, five and seven. my five—year—old will be returning to reception yeah and i had my own questions about how much ppe equipment will be one, whether teachers will be wearing masks and things like that and the school were absolutely brilliant at answering my questions and assuring me about how things would be set out at school and that it would not be frightening for the children they would not be asked to separate from their friends so asked to separate from their friends so is absolutely reassured by those questions so i can then tell that to my child and so it is pretty exciting to go back and have the chance to play again for doc i also ask how you keep your book shelf so organised and neat? do you like my rainbow as well. yes, it has been a pleasure talking to you. thank you for all your thoughts on that. i‘m thinking ijust see mike doing a furious tidy up, suddenly. it wasn‘t too bad, sometimes there is a bit of clutter in the background but it is looking pretty tidy for top i thought you were talking about me personally. we will have a special report in the moment about what‘s a premier league clubs have been doing to help children but first of all the main talk in football is the case of case of liverpool may have to clinch the premier league title at a neutral venue according, to the national lead for football policing as they look to stop fans gathering outside to celebrate. deputy chief constable mark roberts, says that up to six fixtures could be moved including the mersyside derby, plus any game in which liverpool could secure the title. now, merseyside police say they have no objections to matches being played in the city, but the final decision would be made nationally. now, despite numerous proposals, to help reduce the risk of coronavirus transmission in the rugby union, the boss of world rugby told us earlier that, while the sport is resuming in other parts of the world, now is not the time in the uk. i think it is only when we get testing, vaccines, etc when i think we can be absolutely confident, but because of the physical aspect of the game of rugby, it makes it very, very difficult and we were told we had to keep two metres apart. well, you just can‘t do that on a rugby field. now, as some pupils return to schools in england on monday, it‘s a good time to reflect on the work premier league football clubs have been doing in lockdown to support the education of young fans. i‘ve been taking a look and found it‘s brought clubs and schools closer than ever before. this is how you keep the wheels turning in lockdown. pupils in a school where a pe lesson is being run by a coach from the manchester united foundation. it is one way the club continues to support the teachers who have carried on during the pandemic. educating the children who have still had to come to school. manchester united has also given £10,000 to nearly 30 schools in the area to help their pupils learn in whatever way they need. since lockdown, our links to manchester united have been massively enhanced because of this, because we know they are supportive of us, they recognise that there is a need and families are struggling, and have put that in place very quickly. it has been magicalfor some students who have had to isolate at home. the club money paid for an online magic course. a bit too scared to go outside. other than clap on a thursday. so, magic is his thing really. whenjill fell ill with coronavirus, she was worried about how she would cope with her daughter until the schools supported by the club delivered packs of art and crafts. for three days, you sat at the table while i lay on the sofa and you coloured and stuck and made things and had a lovely time, didn‘t you? it was like christmas but without having to pretend. and for edwin, the football club money meant the dream of finally having his own ipad finally came true. this is something amazing, there is no word to say that. he can play games on it, certain games which the school has said we can give him so that he can do the things. i think he will have more freedom from us tackling him all the time. since there is no football, coming together as a whole premier league team, coming togetherjust to get together, get behind all the students. it is notjust here. right across the country, premier league clubs have been stepping up their support with the education of students during this pandemic. whether it be here, supplying the equipment, funds or indeed coaching support for the staff. just like in manchester in the north—east where newcastle united have been delivering equipment and activities to those isolating at home, and providing online lessons to follow. and where possible, players themselves have been offering messages of support. a big thank you to all the teachers for keeping the school going during this time. we admire everyone and the students and the staff for all the work they have been putting in. while aston villa and england defender tyrone mings called one teacher personally. when you strip sport back, football back, music back, festivals back and see what you are left with, you really see the important pillars of our community, yourself included. i do not think you should be talking about other people in that. there is a lot of different people doing a lot of great work. yes, it is important to be humble, i suppose. go, go, go! burnley and former england goalkeeperjoe hart ran an online pe lesson with young students in shrewsbury, where he started his career. really good work! keep your head up as much as possible because in football, that is the most important thing. you are not dribbling around cones so much, you will be dribbling around people. for all those pupils who still had to attend school and had special deliveries from their clubs, it has been a reminder of what everyone has been missing. that feeling of wanting to tell everyone about it come home time. everything that is in there i absolutely love, and when my mum picks me up, she will be absolutely amazed just like me! you can see what it means to the pupils, whether it is directly delivered to packs like that or working at home with some of the online challenges set by the clubs, timetables or crosswords or word searches, it has been a brilliant effort. fabulous, might you have had a good week you were at old trafford yesterday. yesterday, i went on my paddle board for the first time, a great sport for isolating because you are on the water on your own paddling away. i did manage to get in in time for this morning. well done it for you, stay safe this weekend, good to see you. we‘ve seen lots of heart—warming tributes to the nhs and this one has really lifted the spirits of staff at a hospital in london. patients, children and local artists sent in these pictures to line the corridors of the royal free hospital to help bring a smile to the faces of intensive care medics before their shift. how could that not. one of the pictures you saw there was from 12—year—old sophie, whojoins us now with her mum helena, and intensive care matron, mohammed noor. helena, talk to us about how your daughter and the reasons why she wa nted daughter and the reasons why she wanted to spread happiness. she was quite ill last year and we had an emergency admission to the hospital and these things really bring things home as to the care you get when you go to these sorts of places, you do not really think about it otherwise. it was not a nice experience for sophie and she wasn‘t quite ill but the staff were absolutely lovely, the staff were absolutely lovely, the care she got was brilliant, and, she obviously got better and it made everything to back it helped so much having that care at their foot up it has been at some time, hasn‘t it? having that care at their foot up it has been at some time, hasn't it? so much has happened in terms of time, but the care she received has made such an impact because now she is still contributing with her artwork and spreading some kindness. absolutely, i had not really thought about it myself and when she wanted it to do it, and she had been messing around with her artwork and i think it was really, it really affected how being ill in that way because she has not really been ill like that before, she is a very healthy person normally and itjust suddenly happened, and i think it affected her a lot and when this opportunity came up, i think if lockdown has done nothing else it has made us slow down a lot more and think about things and when this opportunity came up to do the artwork she jumped at the chance and really wa nted artwork she jumped at the chance and really wanted it to do it and express her thanks. i was delighted, too. it was not a nice experience for me either and we are just so grateful for everybody there. i was talking to a gp friend of mine recently as talking about being a doctor, you do not often think of one of the characteristics being a front line work as being brave but it is something you have to do now and we are all very grateful. let's have a chat with mohammed who is an intensive care at matron. is this your office you are in a? tell us about the logistics, how often do you go past and see the pictures. thank you very much and good morning. this is our corridor which during the pandemic we have around about 400 people passing it and currently there are about 40, 45 staff who would usually pass this corridor. usually it was a blank corridor. usually it was a blank corridor but now, with all these lovely messages and artwork, it is just absolutely fantastic. you can see a group of staff were to stand and read and you can really see the smile on their faces at the beginning of the shift and when they finished and it hasjust been absolutely fantastic artwork. that is exactly the question i was going to ask. we know you are working in very difficult and traumatic situations, how often have you personally had a moment where you have stopped for a second and looked at one of those pictures and it has made a bit of a difference? you know what, to be honest, it has been quite busy for us managing the whole department, but for me, going and coming at the beginning of the shift and going home, and i started, from the very beginning, and reading all the very beginning, and reading all the messages it, it hasjust been a very uplifting for us and you really feel that. you are really valued and the support has been absolutely amazing and it is a really, really innovative idea which our matron gave this idea and the charity who contributed hugely to make it possible, so it has been absolutely fantastic. well, it has been a joy talking to you and helen no, thank you as well and thank you to sophie as well because it is bringing joy and thank you for sharing your story. good luck for both of you. just a little time, it is never a bad thing, with lots of difficult stories, just to have something that is frankly a little bit silly. a little bit random, we looked —— askedif little bit random, we looked —— asked if cats can look grumpy. paul says not having cheese makes darcy grumpy. that is a bit of a look. that is quite some kind of a look. what about twinkle? she‘s not too happy about the heat during lockdown. raphie isn‘t a huge fan of owner ash working from home. this is a working from home thing so iam assuming this is a working from home thing so i am assuming it is a permanent protest. what are you doing? you should be looking at me. cats always get on laptops. and this is beth. she‘s less than impressed with her lion‘s mane. ican i can tell you from experience, cats do not like being dressed up. those are the cats, some joy to bring you as well, sunshine. that is what it looks like outside our studio. that is it for now, wherever you are, i hope you get to enjoy the sunshine. goodbye. this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. a fourth night of violence in the us city of minneapolis — after the death of george floyd — an unarmed black man in police custody. a former police officer is charged with murder. anger has spread across america. a state of emergency is declared in georgia. atlanta‘s mayor calls for an end to rioting. you are disgracing our city. here‘s the scene live i milwaukee in the neighbouring state of wisconsin, where protests are ongoing.