who have lost their lives. boris johnson says he "owes his life" to staff at st thomas‘s hospital in london where he's spent the last seven nights. the urgent search for a vaccine — billionaire bill gates speaks exclusively to breakfast about how he's trying to help. this is the whole world working on possibly the most urgent tool that's ever been needed. with sport in shutdown, another premier league club are furloughing some staff. sheffield united are the latest to take action, but will not use the governements job retention scheme and will keep workers on full pay. good morning. a mixed picture weatherwise. another warm day in the south. things turning colder for the north and heavy showers and thunderstorms later this afternoon. all the details coming up shortly. it's sunday the 12th of april. our top story: the number of deaths among patients with coronavirus is expected to pass 10,000 today. officials are continuing to press the message to the public to stay at home over the easter weekend to try to prevent the figure from escalating even further. boris johnson, who's recovering from covid—19, has said he owes his life to staff at the hospital in london where he is being treated. simonjones reports. tributes to the latest nhs workers to die after contracting coronavirus. nurse gareth roberts described as "a kind and helpful person" by the cardiff and vale health board. sara trollope, seen here with the prime minister, a nurse said to have a total determination to get things right for her patients at hillingdon hospital. the health secretary matt hancock said yesterday that 19 nhs workers had lost their lives, and now another chief executive has had to break bad news to his staff. i had to share the news of the sudden death of one of our own. a much—loved member of our nursing team, julie 0mar. i also know that this news will have a profound impact on many of you, not least because it brings the tragic consequences of this outbreak even closer to home than it already was. the government says it's looking into how nhs staff had become infected, but it's facing growing pressure to ensure that frontline workers have all the personal protective equipment they need. i'm sorry if people feel that there have been failings — i'll be very, very clear about that — but at the same time, we are in an unprecedented global health pandemic right now. it is inevitable that the demand and the pressures on ppe and the demand for ppe are going to be exponential, they're going to be incredibly high and, of course, we are trying to address that as a government. the ultimate goal is to find a vaccine against coronavirus. the tech billionaire bill gates has promised large sums to fight the infection. but in an interview with breakfast, he warns a vaccine may be up to 18 months away. the thing that'll get us back to the world that we had before coronavirus is the vaccine and getting that out to all 7 billion people. this is the whole world working on probably the most urgent tool that's ever been needed. facing his own challenge, the prime minister. recovering at st thomas' hospital in london, he's paid tribute to nhs medics for pulling him through, saying "i cannot thank them enough. i owe them my life." simon jones, bbc news. so borisjohnson has paid tribute to the doctors and nurses at st thomas' hospital in london, where he is still being treated. we can speak now to our political correspondent, jessica parker. jessica, it may well be some time before the prime minister is back to work? i understand that he will spend the coming weeks resting and recovering having been diagnosed with covid—19. he then did get pretty ill, treated in intensive care for three nights. he was not put on a ventilator but was given oxygen. he has been telling friends he owes his life to the dock as and nurses at saint thomas 's hospital in london. down the street reluctant to be drawn on a precise timeline as to when he might leave st thomas's hospital and back behind a desk stop however, it is unlikely it will be in the next fortnight or so. doctors telling the prime minister he has to take his time. dominic raabe, he will continue to be in charge as a government looks to whether extend the lockdown measures. then news we have had so far is they will. and here summer the new labour leader is asking for parliament to resume? there has not been a suggestion re ce ntly there has not been a suggestion recently seeing mps crowding into when and crowding into the chamber for obviously reason but the new labour leader has written to jacob chris morgan saying he wants to have talks and make sure the parliament is functioning in some form. care summer is functioning in some form. care summer saying the need to be scrutiny. —— summer saying the need to be scrutiny. — — the summer saying the need to be scrutiny. —— the new labour leader. we have been talking about protective equipment. a spokesperson said parliament will return on average are diverse and technological solutions are being prepared. the house of commons commission last week said they were working around the clock to develop a virtual house of commons, talking about using videoconferencing for example. it is not exactly clear what it would look like but it will be the house of commons that we have never seen it before. hospital consultants have told the bbc that some key medicines used in intensive care are in relatively short supply. the royal college of anaesthetists says stocks of medicines in some areas are also stretched. it said staff were being advised to find alternatives, but reassured patients that they would not be put at risk. the united states has become the first country in the world to record more than 2,000 coronavirus deaths in a single day. there has now been more than 20,000 deaths across the usa, and more than half a million confirmed infections. a major disaster has been declared in all states in response to the outbreak. easter celebrations will take place across the world today, but without worshippers gathering together. pope francis has been leading the traditional easter vigil at st peter's in rome without a congregation. he will livestream his easter sunday mass, while the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby, will deliver his sermon via webcam from his kitchen table. the queen has delivered an easter message, speaking about the importance of hope at a difficult time, and how light overcomes the darkness. it's believed to be the first easter address she has made and was recorded in isolation in windsor castle. 0ur royal correspondent, nicolas witchell, has more. this is believed to be the first time the queen has delivered an easter message. coming less than a week after her televised broadcast from windsor, it underlines the gravity with which the current situation is regarded by the monarch. the theme of the audio message is light overcoming darkness symbolised on the royal social media channels by the image of an easter candle. we know that coronavirus will not overcome us. as dark as death can be, particularly for those suffering with grief, light and life are greater. may the living flame of the easter hope be a steady guide as we face the future. the queen stressed the importance of the lockdown. by keeping apart, she said, we keep others safe. nicholas witchell, bbc news. nationwide lockdown measures, in place now for almost three weeks, are presenting a range of challenges in all sorts of circumstances. it's been especially difficult though, for those who've recently left the care system, often estranged from relatives and without support networks. ashleyjohn—baptiste has more. it is very empty and very deserted. i have not seen anyone for a couple of days and i am back up to my room. daily life of this 20—year—old care lever, estranged from her parents and stuck in student accommodation. most people have been picked up by their parents stop i am pretty much stuck here now. i am finding things quite challenging at the moment. since the covid—19 lot down, a lot of stu d e nts since the covid—19 lot down, a lot of students have gone home and i am still living in homes because i do not have a home to go back to and the whole of campus is shut and it does feel quite isolated. someone who grew up in care, i am aware of the unique challenges so when the uk went into i wanted to find out how they were coping. this is where 20—year—old casey lives. she relies on universal credit. this is my kitchen over there. and in there, is a bathroom. that is your living space? yes, my living room, bedroom stop a lot of care leavers are restrained from their families. i am self isolating but i have no—one to help me with that, no—one can help me with my shopping, no—one can help me with my shopping, no—one can help me ifi me with my shopping, no—one can help me if i get healed, you are so alone. almost half of all care lever struggle with their mental health in normal times and one informal have a mental health crisis. xers predict these figures will get worse. this 17—year—old lives in supported accommodation. she has had it particularly tough. a couple of days after the government announced a lockdown, the local authority movement with a couple of hours notice. i had been working the weekend before that with the public andi weekend before that with the public and i could have had the virus and not know it and then i move with total strangers. a leading charity is calling on councils to do more. we now councils are under pressure at the moment. we would like to see councils make a real effort to reach out to care leavers to help them with important work and making cash available for those really struggling. councils are working ha rd to struggling. councils are working hard to work hard... as tough as things are, these care leavers like so things are, these care leavers like so many others across the nation are remaining resilient. i think everything that can go wrong is going wrong at the moment but ijust have to keep moving on. ashleyjohn—baptiste, bbc news. good morning if you havejustjoined us. good morning if you havejustjoined us. you are watching breakfast. let's take a look at today's front pages: the sunday express leads on a tribute paid to nhs staff by the prime minister. he has been in intensive care and still in hospital at the moment but back on the ward. he said, "i can't thank them enough. i owe them my life". the daily mirror reports that some hospitals are running out of three vital drugs needed to treat coronavirus patients, with one consultant calling the situation extremely worrying. "nhs phone app holds key to lifting lockdown" is the headline of the sunday times' main story. as reported by the bbc, a proposed new nhs app could allow tracking of the infection, and alert people when they need to get tested. and the observer claims that the uk's main opposition parties have united to demand parliament is urgently recalled in virtualform. time for a quick look inside the papers. coronavirus leads on most of the front pages. inside you can find other stories. a safari to be found, linking the fact that many people will not be able to go on holiday. it says, you do not need to. closer to home, a variety of different insects and wonders to be found in the garden. 35 different species of wood lamps. i did not know that. interesting facts. 0range tape butterflies that can fly at 100 miles an hour. that is inside the sunday times. what to look out for if you are in the garden. something fun, we have some dogs that camouflage with their surroundings. the dalmatian here, while the eyes, and pause show a white dog in the snow. very good. no snow at the moment so you will see him wherever he is. on the subject of snow and whether, sarah is with us this morning. a bit early for a sunrise i guess. sunset from last night. too early for snow through the easter weekend. you are more likely to see snow at easter time than christmas time. today is another warm day to come for your easter sunday in the south, but things are turning quite a bit colderfrom south, but things are turning quite a bit colder from the south, but things are turning quite a bit colderfrom the north, a sign of things to come for all of us. there will be a few heavy showers and thunderstorms around today as well. the dry, settle whether we have had recently done to this area of high pressure, it is getting squeezed away towards the south—east. low pressure across scandinavia. that is going to be drawing on this cold air. coming in from the north you can see the blue colours spreading across the british isles today, but more especially and more widely into tomorrow, easter monday. a real dip in the temperatures. cold are starting to move into northern scotland already. for much of england and wales, you keep sunshine throughout much of the day, especially this morning, the odd heavy showers this afternoon as the temperatures rise. for northern ireland, a cloudy sort of day, outbreaks of rain on and off. for scotland, we have sunny spells to central answer and parts by the cold airand central answer and parts by the cold air and showers moving on from the north. a contrast in temperatures. aberdeen around 11 today, towards london we could see 25 celsius, similarto london we could see 25 celsius, similar to what we had yesterday. as we move through this evening, watch out for those potentially heavy showers through parts of wales, the midlands, eastern england as well. they will be hit and miss, if you catch 20 eagleby heavy and binary. they will sink south overnight and skies clear from the north. things turning much colder, particularly for scotland, northern ireland, and northern england where we will see a touch of frost. further south we hold onto the mild air to start of easter monday. a little cloudy first thing in the south. as the cold air moves in, a different feeling day tomorrow for easter monday, particularly around eastern coast of scotla nd particularly around eastern coast of scotland and eastern england as well, a cold northerly wind is coming in of the north sea. gusty winds through the english channel. in the south we could see gusts up to 50 mph for the channel isles, for instance. blustery winds and much lower temperatures as well. around the east coast, 7—9d. we could see 14 the east coast, 7—9d. we could see 1a across parts of wales in the south—west of england. much colder than recent days. as we move through monday night into tuesday, this area of high pressure tells across the uk once again. with light winds at will be chilly to start off tuesday morning. if you have been doing gardening of the easter weekend, there could be a touch of frost on tuesday then things warm up through the rest of the week. acta you both. sarah, thank you very much. —— back to you both. at 20 to nine we have an interview with bill gates, the bill and melinda gates foundation have funded lots of vaccines over the years, but they are particularly interested in trying to find a vaccine for coronavirus. bill gates will be telling us all about that. and you have just come back from italy. i have. it is very strange. i'm kind of seeing what was happening in italy a few weeks ago happening in italy a few weeks ago happening here. it is as if i'm reliving the emotions. it is difficult. it was a difficult centre to see the italian people going through what they are going through. but what happened there, we are seeing parallels happen here now. we arejust a few seeing parallels happen here now. we are just a few weeks behind, as we have been hearing. with our figures, the daily death toll, actually overtook italy. nice to have you here for a deed bill 0n breakfast. —— debut. here for a deed bill 0n breakfast. -- debut. now one breakfast, it is time for the film review with mark kermode. —— now on breakfast. hello and welcome to the film review with me, mark kermode. rounding up the best new releases that are now available to watch in your own home. this week saw the straight—to—streaming release of trolls world tour. the phosphorescent equal to the 2016 animated hit that, let us not forget, was nominated for an oscar for best original song. # woke up in the morning light. # today is the day that i do everything right...# in that original film, an experience i likened to sticking your head into a candy floss machine, the happy huggy trolls were terrorised by carnivorous burgens from whom they had to be saved. crazy train plays. what's going on? i'm queen barb of the hard rock trolls. in this sequel, the trolls are at war with themselves, having split into musical tribes of pop, country, funk, techno, classical, and rock. now thrash merchant queen barb is trying to invade all the other troll lands, silence the music, and steal their magic strings, making them one nation under rock. all of which comes as a surprise to pop—loving queen poppy, thatjust wants to give the world a hug and get everyone to live together in perfect harmony. yes, now that's a good connection. the plot of trolls world tour is basically an uncredited rip—off of the 19605 oddity gonks go beat in which the warring inhabitants of beat land and ballad isle are visited by space aliens. that film featured such rock royalty as lulu, ginger baker and the nashville teens alongside the likes of kenneth connor, frank thornton and terry scott. oh, and arthur mullard. trolls world tour boasts the voices of anna kendrick and justin timberlake, alongside ozzy osbourne, maryj blige, and george clinton. oh, and james corden. poppy. you know you can't go back on a pinky promise. with visual nods to mad max: fury road and jokes about the evils of yodelling and smooth jazz, trolls world tour throws a few comedy crumbs to the adults who would have been taking their kids to the cinema to see this, but are now probably doing the hoovering while the children crowd around the television. this is fairly formulaic dreamworks affair, lacking the visual or musical imagination of happy feet and having none of the pan—generational appeal of a toy story movie — even with its laudable message of embracing difference. most significantly however, trolls world tour is the first major studio movie intended for widespread theatrical release that has now gone straight—to—streaming services here in the uk as a result of coronavirus. how it fares financially will be closely watched by distributors. a pinky promise. dang... for something a little more grown—up, head to curzon home cinema for the release of the psychological drama, who you think i am. the release is being brought forward, not least because the film's online theme seems to strike a particularly timely chord. based on a novel by camille laurens, it tells the story of a middle—aged divorcee, brilliantly played byjuliette binoche, who invents a fictitious online persona and becomes embroiled in a virtual relationship. recounting her tail to a psychiatrist, claire reveals how clara her younger alter ego began to take over her life, becoming more real than the real world. addicted to the thrill of electronic interaction, she recedes into the comfort of her phone and her computer, increasingly removed from the rules and responsibilities of the physical world of which she is evermore oblivious. intelligently directed by safy nebbou and hauntingly scored by his regular collaborator ibrahim maalouf, who you think i am is a twisty treat, a film that plays knowingly with narrative in a manner that recalls karel reisz‘s classic adaptation of the french lieutenant‘s woman. it's significant that claire is a professor of literature, well—versed in the complexity of authorial voices. at one point she compares her online life to a novel and throughout the drama, we watch her effectively writing and rewriting her story. her past, present and future. it all adds up to a very modern drama about age—old anxieties, the fear of ageing and death, the desire for love and intimacy, the need for artifice and deceit. in 500 years, no—one has ever escaped. it's the tower! also new to streaming services this week is the iron mask mystery of the dragon seal, a chinese—russian production nominally starring jason flemyng, arnold schwarzenegger, and jackie chan alongside fleeting appearances by the likes of charles dance, and rutger hauer in one of his final roles. come with me. the sequel to 2014's forbidden kingdom which, like its predecessor, has been released around the world under umpteen different titles, the iron mask finds flemyng's map—makerteaming up with the titular russian tsar to battle a face—swapping witch who's imprisoned a dragon whose eyelashes make tea, or something. to be honest, i had very little idea what was going on, and i don't think the screenwriters had much more. suffice to say that despite the publicity images, arnie and jackie, who both get producer credits, are very much secondary characters sharing one entertaining punch—up but not a whole lot more. you look better this way. the rest is a mishmash of slapstick wire work, comically bad dubbing, incoherent plotting and shonky cgi land and seascapes. it is also worth noting that the film was designed to be a 3d spectacular which explains all the chains being chucked at the cameras and fishes and fairies flying towards the screen. pointy, pointy cinema gimmicks that on tvjust seem a bit pointless. if you're looking for something more realistic, try martin margiela: in his own words. an intriguing documentary about the famously camera shy belgian fashion designer for whom anonymity is a key to his work. i don't like the idea of being a celebrity. anonymity‘s very important to me. the last show we had a confession. in the doc, which includes a wealth of archival footage, we hear but don't see margiela tell his own story, in engaging in enigmatic fashion. there are different needs in the fashion world, and i'm not sure i canfit them. also new to streaming services such as bfi player this week is 0rdinary love, the deeply moving frequently funny and piercingly insightful drama from belfast playwright 0wen mccafferty making his screen writing feature debut. hospitals remind me of death. lovely. you know what i mean. so if i come in, you won't ever come and visit me? they're not going to bring you injust for a cyst. all i know is it felt serious. that's just because of all the other sick people that are around you. you see, the nonsense you talk... how do you get through life? well, you're still here with me. i'm just doing that out of spite. right back at you, kid. 0n the surface, it's a tale of a middle—aged couple facing up to a diagnosis of breast cancer and a year of medical intervention. yet beyond this is something far more rich and compelling, a story of everyday love between two people perfectly played by lesley manville and liam neeson living in the shadow of grief facing an uncertain future both together and apart. directed with wit, subtlety, and great emotional honesty by lisa barros d'sa and glenn leyburn, the couple behind the life—affirming good vibrations, this is a singular story with universal appeal. joyous, heartbreaking, and ultimately uplifting. there isn't a moment i won't be there with you. i think women can do anything. doesn't mean they should. but i have so many talents. who are you? i'm just a decoy, stud! new to dvd and also available to download is charlie's angels, the latest feature film reboot of the ‘70s tv series. elizabeth banks directs and costars in this girl power update which, for my money, is infinitely preferable to the previous hyperventilating outings helmed by the reliably terrible mcg. 0h, mints! let's just stop the touching. some of this blows up. and if you are looking for a classic, the elephant man celebrates its 40th anniversary with a collectors edition three disc set featuring a 4k restoration of the film with sound and picture personally approved by director david lynch. one of the most moving screen dramas of the 20th century, the elephant man boasts beautiful white—and—black photography by the great freddie francis and ca reer—best performances from anthony hopkins and john hurt, the latter of whom works wonders despite extensive prosthetics that somehow never come between him and the audience. it's a masterpiece. that's it for this week, thanks for watching the film review. stay safe and i will be back next week with more home viewing treats. i am not an elephant! i am not an animal! i am a human being. hello, this is breakfast with sima kotecha and rogerjohnson. good morning. here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news. the number of people that have died from coronavirus in the uk is expected to pass 10,000 today. the government is still facing growing pressure to ensure that frontline workers have all the personal protective equipment they need. the deaths of five nhs staff have been announced since the health secretary said yesterday 19 workers have died. meanwhile, borisjohnson — who's recovering from covid—19 — has said he owes his life to staff at the hospital in london where he is being treated. hospital consultants have told the bbc that some key medicines used in intensive care are in relatively short supply. the royal college of anaesthetists says stocks of medicines in some areas are also stretched. it said staff were being advised to find alternatives, but reassured patients that they would not be put at risk. the united states has become the first country in the world to record more than 2,000 coronavirus deaths in a single day. there has now been more than 20,000 deaths across the usa, and more than half a million confirmed infections. a major disaster has been declared in all states in response to the outbreak. easter celebrations will take place across the world today, but without worshippers gathering together. pope francis has been leading the traditional easter vigil at st peter's in rome without a congregation. he will livestream his easter sunday mass. while the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby, will deliver his sermon via webcam from his kitchen table. the queen has delivered an easter message. she urged people to focus on the meaning of easter, of light overcoming the dark, just as we, as a nation, would overcome the pandemic. it's belived to be the first easter address she has made and was recorded in isolation in windsor castle. let's find out what is happening in the world of sport... 0r let's find out what is happening in the world of sport... or not happening. we do have some live football for the first time in absolute months. but we will talk about another premier league club first. with sport at a standstill amid the coronavirus pandemic, sheffield united are the latest premier league club to furlough some non playing staff but will continue to pay them in full. they say only those who can't perform their regular duties are affected and won't use the government's job retention scheme yet, unlike tottenham, newcastle, bournemouth and norwich. united, who are seventh in their first season since promotion from the championship, are also allowing staff to voulenteer with the nhs orjoin similar initatives. —— volunteer. i will be interested to see the reaction to that announcement from people who have criticised other premier league clubs over the course of this pandemic as well. to a huge row in scotland where rangers are calling for the suspension of the football leagues' chief executive. the club claim they have evidence that raises serious concerns over a lack of "fair play". the spfl have responded by asking rangers to back up their claims or withdraw them. well the argument‘s come about because dundee have delayed their vote, which would decide if football below the premiership is ended now or resumes when conditions allow. sports news correspondent in scotland, chris mclaughlin, explains. there is real uncertainty as to why they have suddenly switched from being a note to potentially being yes. that appears to be the crux of theissue yes. that appears to be the crux of the issue with this rangers statement. they think that something had happened towards behind the scenes to make done the store on their decision. well football is on hold right across europe, apart from one country — belarus. they're still playing after the countries prime minister said he wasn't worried about covid—19. make of that what you will. well the match was in the country's top division and it was torpedo zhodino who won partly thanks to that goal. great strike by brazillian gabriel ramos. they beat energetik—bgu 2—0 to leapfrog them into top spot in the table. it does seem quite weird watching football taking place when all around the world meetings have been postponed. now it's notjust kids who are home schooling during the lockdown. sportspeople are also burying themselves in books as competitions are cancelled. and for good reason. experts says planning for retirement now can alleviate the current boredom and also ease mental health concerns at the end of their careers. ben croucher has more. this is what sport looks like right 110w. this is what sport looks like right now. it has left many feeling a bit empty, not least the sportsmen and women with a lot more time on their hands. many are turning their la pto ps hands. many are turning their laptops on. one tackling a maths and business degree. now that we have all this spare time during the day, i will try and get ahead as much as possible. when it is all over, back to normality. i can sort of ease off this a little bit. performance lifestyle advisors have seen a spike and not just for practical qualifications. we have created something that we have called the social isolation guide. we have a list of podcasts for them to listen to. a number of links to on line courses covering a variety of different topics from their mindfulness, bookkeeping, accountancy, languages and we have had a huge uptake. one player taken advantage studying, design and climate change. probably at beginners stage at the moment but trying to broaden my horizons and get into new interests and hobbies outside of cricket so when i finish i may have a few more ideas as to what i might want to go into as my second career. not quite so simple for everyone. eleanor parker might have to wait until 2022 to graduate after deferring her funded fear of her 0pen after deferring her funded fear of her open university degree because of the olympics only to see the games postponed. it feels like i am working towards something. if you are injured, or you cannot train or if you're not picked for a race, it is something else to focus on so you do not dwell on it too much. the mental health benefits that experts believe can improve performance. what this might teach athletes is how fragile sport can be so having something else that they can fall back onto so that when sport is challenged, even if it is an injury 01’ challenged, even if it is an injury or something bigger like this, they have something else they can kind of focus their energy on. when the la pto ps a re focus their energy on. when the laptops are shut and sports restart, you might be watching athletes with little more to the game than before. ben croucher, bbc news. and various sports people have been trying to raise money for the nhs during this crisis. we saw adam peaty auction off some trunks the other day. he raised 13,000 pounds by selling those. well, tour de france champion geraint thomas is the latest to throw his hat in the ring. i thought, do a charity ride and mirror nhs focus shifts are starting wednesday 15th april, i'm going to be here in my garage, and i am going to do three back to back 12 hour shifts, starting wednesday and finishing friday evening and all the money going obviously to the nhs. you can ride along with him. he will ride three 12 hour shifts to raise money for the nhs workers and have a little bit of an idea how much, how long those hours are the nhs workers are putting. i have a feeling plenty of people in lycra riding along with him. this week, we saw heart—breaking images of mass burials in new york, as the city struggled to cope with the huge number of coronavirus deaths. more than half a million cases have now been confirmed across the united states. dr rob gore is an emergency physician on the frontline, and he joins us from new york. thank you so much for coming on. you have just finished five night shifts. can you paint a picture of what it is like inside the hospital where you work at the moment? thank you for having me. this week has been a lot better than the past week in the sense that our waiting room are not as condensed but the er is com pletely are not as condensed but the er is completely filled up. a lot of sick people, a lot of people still dying and if they are all dying from the same thing, covid—19. and if they are all dying from the same thing, covid-19. we have seen some really alarming pictures come out from new york of lorries carrying bodies, people describing it as carrying bodies, people describing itasa carrying bodies, people describing it as a 9/11 all over again. would you say that is the case? this is probably like 9/11 but an ongoing name 11. the only exception is like it isa name 11. the only exception is like it is a silent killer. with 9/11 use of the devastation with the collapsing of the towers, i wait in haiti with homes being destroyed and new there was a problem, there was evidence. in the hospital it is a different experience. 0utside you have flowers blooming and birds chirping and there was a son out today because it's springtime but inside it is different. how do you cope emotionally? what do you tell yourself when you go home? cope emotionally? what do you tell yourself when you go home7m cope emotionally? what do you tell yourself when you go home? it is definitely tough seeing people die, if you have been a physician for more than 10—15 is like myself or a new physician, when you are on the job you have to, separate things. a definite clyde when we had a couple of patients die. —— definitely. there are so many people who were dying all around me and you cannot do anything about it you have to leave, process and then regroup. we do not always have the luxury of just expressing our emotions and being emotional while we are on the job because it can compromise our ability to make decisions and keep people alive. what will be the consequences afterwards in terms of your mental health? you are seeing such disturbing pictures all the time of people really distressed and going for the most difficult period of their lives? i am hoping we can ta ke lesso ns of their lives? i am hoping we can take lessons learned from other tragedies, 9/11 and from people who have been physicians during wartime. there will always be a tragedy but how we interpret and process it can have a long—term impact on their ability to grow and thrive despite the circumstances we are presented with. the real thing is processing it. iama with. the real thing is processing it. i am a firm believer in mental health. we have seen how trauma can bea health. we have seen how trauma can be a major triggerfor health. we have seen how trauma can be a major trigger for people who have already experienced things and it adds on an adds on and if it does not take care early on, that person can implode or explode with devastating consequences for that individual as well as their family members. thank you for talking to us and thank you for being so honest about what you are going through. we really think you're doing a fantasticjob. really think you're doing a fantastic job. stay safe really think you're doing a fantasticjob. stay safe out really think you're doing a fantastic job. stay safe out there and our love to the americans who are going through what we're going through. lots more on that story during the course of the morning. let's have a look at the weather. sarah is with us. a bit ofa a bit of a mixed chip for your easter sunday weather. this is the same as the sun is arising in derbyshire. through the course of today, a change in the feel of the weather. cold air moving in from the north. warm airfrom weather. cold air moving in from the north. warm air from southern parts of the british isles but also heavy showers later on. not all of us will see them but they could be rumbles of thunder later on. the area of pushing off the south—east. low pressure a cross pushing off the south—east. low pressure across scandinavia and that means we are drawing in this cold air flow. you can means we are drawing in this cold airflow. you can see means we are drawing in this cold air flow. you can see the means we are drawing in this cold airflow. you can see the blue colours returning, pushing further south and especially into easter monday. we will have that cold air mass right across the uk. much of england and wales keep the sunshine for most of the day. northern ireland cloudier with outbreaks of rape, scotland, some blight sunny spells for central path but clouded showers moving in from the north. this is a cold front introducing a colder air flow. temperatures in aberdeen staying at around 11 degrees but down towards london, 25 celsius likely. similar to what we have had in the past couple of days but also heavy showers across the midlands and into east anglia. if you catch a show if this evening and tonight, it could be heavy and thundery. showers tending to fade away during the second half of the night. under the clearest guys, a cold night, particularly through northern england, northern ireland and scotland could have a touch of frost first thing easter monday. a colder day tomorrow across the board. a brisk northerly winds affecting eastern scotland and the east coast of england. more cloud. gusty winds down towards the english channel. gusts of up to 50 miles per hour across the channel island. the brightest of the weather further west. temperatures up to 1a in cardiff but down the east coast, only about 7—9d. more than 10 degrees cooler than it has been. an area of high pressure building through monday night into tuesday with clearing skies and light winds. tuesday also likely to start off on a cold and slightly frosty note. a chilly start to this week but things are going to gradually turn warmer for the week and a lot of dry weather on the clouds but regardless, do not forget the rules on social distancing and state at home wherever you can. —— stay at home. the weather can't make is made up. it was roasting hot then calling down. i suppose is typicalfor the time of year. if we get the breeze coming in off the sea we have that chilly weather. we get some beautiful days as we have had recently as well. thank you, sarah. thank you. now it's time for a coronavirus news special with annita mcveigh. hello and welcome to this bbc news special. i'm annita mcveigh. stay with us as we take you into an intensive care unit in london as we show you what doctors are confronted with with patients with severe cases of covid—19. plus, chris morris from the bbc‘s reality check team will bust more of the myths about coronavirus. and a reminder that there is further advice, news and information about coronavirus in your area on the bbc news website. but first, the dramatic spread of the pandemic has put health services in some countries under immense pressure through the sheer scale of people requiring specialist treatment. 0ur medical correspondent fergus walsh and cameraman adam walker got exclusive access to one intensive care ward at university college hospital in central london to give us this rare insight into what health professionals are having to face on a daily basis. it is completely unimaginable and we are not at the peak yet. this is the front line in a war. apart from two patients, every patient we are looking after has covid. we can't cope, we just can't. every day, some battles are won... this is one of the doctors here. ..and some are lost. all the patients here are critically ill. we are planning for many more patients, so all our theatres to be full of covid patients and possibly beyond. it is, you know, we — none of us have ever seen anything like this. this used to be a recovery area for patients after surgery. now it's an intensive care unit for covid—19 patients. a huge part of the hospital has been transformed in order to deal with coronavirus. i've been in intensive care nursing for about 23 years now and i've never seen anything like this — even the london bombings. never seen it in such a short, condensed period of time. many of the patients here are elderly or have underlying health problems, but not all. i think perhaps i was a bit naive when i — we started. i'd assumed that it would be the older and sicker. in here, we've got a mixture, from people in their 40s to their 70s, a lot of them have high blood pressure and diabetes or a bit of respiratory disease. but some of them who are coming through are young and fit. the patients here have severe pneumonia, inflammation of the lungs. they must be heavily sedated while on a ventilator — a machine which takes over their breathing. patients can spend two weeks like this. many drugs are being tested but there is, as yet, no proven treatment for coronavirus. so it's oxygen and...? 0rgan support, and amazing nursing care, really. one thing that helps is turning the patients onto their front. it increases the oxygen getting into their lungs. what seems like a simple procedure takes time. and lots of pairs of hands. 0k, everyone all right? yep. ready, steady. 90. with ventilated patients, extreme care is needed. all of this while staff wear full personal protective equipment... well done, that's great. 0k, can we check on the ventilation? ..their only barrier against coronavirus. every time a doctor or nurse goes on to the unit, they must don full safety gear. you can't wear this and work for more than a couple of hours because you've got a crushing headache, you know, you've got a dry mouth. you have to get out. staff write their names on their aprons so they can be quickly identified. so there's an emergency on the itu. the head of critical care was asked via a walkie—talkie if he would give a second opinion. but he needs to be there, so the full kit has to be put on. they use walkie—talkies because their visors mean they cannot communicate on phones. it is draining, physically and mentally. it's really hard, and some of our staff really cannot cope with it. you know, we've got a huge number of nurses, doctors, physios and not all of them can deal with it, so they can only spend a short time, or notjust any time. it's not uncommon for some of our staff to have panic attacks and finding this so, so stressful. so we've got to support people — some people just can't do it. despite the possible risk to themselves, the medical staff carry on. 12—hour shifts, 60 hours a week are the norm. they worry about the patients, about each other, and about those they love. i think it's very hard on our families. my kids are at home. my wife is home—schooling. it's easy, in a way for me — i'm doing myjob, and busy all day. they don't really know what it's like here, whether we are bringing home the virus. and they've just been amazing. just let me do what i need to do, and i'm just incredibly grateful to them. what is striking here is the sense of calm. in the face of adversity, doctors and nurses simply get on with thejob. the staff here are dealing with the biggest challenge ever faced by the nhs. they can save many of the patients but sadly, not all of them. and still, more patients keep coming every day. coughs. and no—one is sure how long this will last. for now, they can cope. but that depends on all of us playing our part. what is your message to people watching or listening to this? if people don't stay at home and they sneak out, this is going to continue to happen, and our staff are going to be exposed for longer, we are not going to have the equipment to do the best that we can by everybody who needs it. we do need to flatten that curve and it is so serious. and ijust wish people would really, really listen to what the government and we are saying. it is harrowing to see the devastation caused by coronavirus and humbling to witness the resilience of nurses and doctors — the heroes of this crisis. one of the latest countries to advise people to wear masks or cover their faces in public is the united states. despite the guidance from experts at the world health organisation, that medical masks should be reserved for health care professionals and not used by the general public. israel, indonesia and morocco are now amongst countries that have made wearing of face masks compulsory in public. the bbc‘s science editor has been investigating how effective wearing them can be. a computer simulation of someone coughing in a supermarket. this is new research, still to be confirmed, that shows how coronavirus could spread and linger in the air, infecting people nearby. the scientist involved says the obvious conclusion is to avoid places that might be busy. first of all, don't go there if you don't need to go there. if you need to go there, go there only as seldom as possible. and stay there as short a time as possible. if someone is showing symptoms they shouldn't be going to a supermarket or anywhere else but there is growing evidence that people can have the virus and not show symptoms. and that's one reason why the us government and many others, are now urging people that if they have to go out, they wear a mask. in morocco, for example, there is now a government order to wear masks. with the threat of prison or fines to back that up. but the world health organisation and the british government believe measures like this just aren't needed. here in the uk, the guidance is it's health care workers and carers who should wear masks. and the worry is that supplies might run out if the public are trying to buy them as well. there are different views about this among scientists. one is that if you wear a mask, you might reduce the risk of passing virus to others. another is that once you put a mask on, you might get a false sense of security. you might think you can get close to people again or stop washing your hands so often. and you might treat the mask much too casually. wearing a mask must be consistent, it's not on to wear a mask and decide to take it off and smoke a cigarette or eat a meal, it must be worn full—time. at the same time as the mask is taken off, the outside surface may be contaminated as well. and hands become contaminated and then could serve as a source of infection. in any event, more and more countries are demanding that people wear masks. in indonesia, they are handing them out. and the italian region of tuscany is scaling up deliveries because everyone will have to wear one. attitudes are changing fast. finally, throughout our series, we've been hearing from chris morris and the reality check team who have been myth busting some of the big stories, treatments and cures you may have heard about covid—19. we are all going to be in this for the long haul and separating fact from fiction is really important. so here are some myths you should be aware of. number one. lemonjuice protects you from covid—19. there have been plenty of claims about things you should eat or drink to thwart coronavirus. and the lemonjuice myth just won't go away. it started with a viral social media post containing advice from a fake chinese scientist. to be clear, lemonjuice is obviously not bad view, in fact, all fruit and vegetables are essential while nearly all of us have to stay at home. they can help keep you healthy. but they don't stop you getting a virus like this. myth number two. mosquito bites can infect you with the virus. we know you can get diseases from mosquito bites but there is no evidence at all that the little brutes can infect you with coronavirus. again, remember, this is a respiratory virus, spread mainly when someone who is ill coughs or sneezes. and the best way to protect yourself is to avoid close contact with anyone who is sick. and keep washing your hands! myth number three. blood donations will get you a free test. some people are hoping they might get a free coronavirus test if they donate blood. that's absolutely not the case. but there's been a persistent false belief on social media that it might be. so, the best advice for now, try to stay healthy, while scientists work towards medical breakthroughs. that's it for now. a reminder, you can keep up—to—date with all the latest information on the lockdown in your area and your country on the website, and you can contact me on twitter at any time. thank you for watching. good morning. welcome to breakfast, with sima kotecha and rogerjohnson. 0ur headlines today: the number of people who have died with coronavirus in the uk is set to pass 10,000, as tributes are paid to nhs staff who have lost their lives. boris johnson says he "owes his life" to staff at st thomas's hospital in london where he's spent the last seven nights. the urgent search for a vaccine — billionaire bill gates speaks exclusively to breakfast about how he's trying to help. this is the whole world working on probably the most urgent tool that's ever been needed. with sport in shutdown, another premier league club are furloughing some staff. sheffield united are the latest to take action, but will not use the governements job retention scheme and will keep workers on full pay. good morning. a mixed picture weatherwise. another warm day in the south. things turning colder for the north and heavy showers and thunderstorms later this afternoon. all the details coming up shortly. it's sunday the 12th of april. easter sunday. our top story: the number of deaths among patients with coronavirus is expected to pass 10,000 today. officials are continuing to press the message to the public to stay at home over the easter weekend to try to prevent the figure from escalating even further. boris johnson, who's recovering from covid—19, has said he owes his life to staff at the hospital in london where he is being treated. simonjones reports. tributes to the latest nhs workers to die after contracting coronavirus. nurse gareth roberts described as "a kind and helpful person" by the cardiff and vale health board. sara trollope, seen here with the prime minister, a nurse said to have a total determination to get things right for her patients at hillingdon hospital. the health secretary matt hancock said yesterday that 19 nhs workers had lost their lives, and now another chief executive has had to break bad news to his staff. i had to share the news of the sudden death of one of our own. a much—loved member of our nursing team, julie 0mar. i also know that this news will have a profound impact on many of you, not least because it brings the tragic consequences of this outbreak even closer to home than it already was. the government says it's looking into how nhs staff had become infected, but it's facing growing pressure to ensure that frontline workers have all the personal protective equipment they need. i'm sorry if people feel that there have been failings — i'll be very, very clear about that — but at the same time, we are in an unprecedented global health pandemic right now. it is inevitable that the demand and the pressures on ppe and the demand for ppe are going to be exponential, they're going to be incredibly high and, of course, we are trying to address that as a government. the ultimate goal is to find a vaccine against coronavirus. the tech billionaire bill gates has promised large sums to fight the infection. but in an interview with breakfast, he warns a vaccine may be up to 18 months away. the thing that'll get us back to the world that we had before coronavirus is the vaccine and getting that out to all 7 billion people. this is the whole world working on probably the most urgent tool that's ever been needed. facing his own challenge, the prime minister. recovering at st thomas' hospital in london, he's paid tribute to nhs medics for pulling him through, saying "i cannot thank them enough. i owe them my life." simon jones, bbc news. that full interview with bill gates on breakfast at 840 this morning. we can speak now to our political correspondent, jessica parker. jessica it may well be some time before the prime minister is back to work? i think that is the situation. it looks like boris johnson i think that is the situation. it looks like borisjohnson will not be rushing back into work because he did get very ill. was admitted into intensive care for three nights, given standard oxygen treatment, was not put on ventilator and he is telling friends he owes his life to those doctors and nurses at london's seven thomases hospital. down the street reluctant to be drawn on a timeline both in terms of when boris johnson might leave hospital and also when he will be back behind the desk. unlikely to be in the next fortnight. doctors and colleagues telling boris johnson fortnight. doctors and colleagues telling borisjohnson not to rush back to work. the foreign secretary dominic raabe has been deputising for the prime minister. he would be the person in charge this coming week is a government looks as to whether it should extend the lockdown measures further. all we have heard so far is that it is likely he will. the new labour leader keir starmer is asking for a recall of parliament? parliament is currently due to come back on april 21 but there is no expectation that you will see mps from all corners of the country rushing back down to westminster and crowding into that house of commons chamber for a round of prime ministers questions, for obvious reasons but the labour leader keir starmer sir if the parliament returns in some form, because the handling of the coronavirus needs to be scrutinised, they need to be looking at a strategy out of the current lockdown and also looking at the situation with protective equipment. he is looking to talk to jacob rees—mogg. a spokesperson forjacob rees—mogg says parliament will return on april 21. they're looking for solutions. the comments commission saying they are working around the clock looking for solutions, things like video conferencing. parliament will return in the coming weeks but a parliament like we have never seen it before. thank you to jessica parker. the united states has become the first country in the world to record more than two thousand coronavirus deaths in a single day. there has now been more than twenty thousand deaths across the usa, and more than half a million confirmed infections. a major disaster has been declared in all states in response to the outbreak. with much of europe still in lockdown, the world health organisation has been working with governments to form strategies for easing restrictions, but says this should not be done too soon. 0ur europe correspondent jean mackenzie joins us now. jean, what can you tell us about the picture in europe at the moment? of course, europe has been at the heart of this pandemic there is evidence that countries are managing to control the spread of the virus, particularly in italy and spain, countries was hit, the infection rates are slowing and the daily death tolls are coming down but progress is very slow and the daily death are still high. more than 600 deaths in italy yesterday, more than 500 in spain but that is the lowest country has recorded three weeks. france is a little behind france and italy in terms of recovery but we are starting to see some changes. yesterday the health minister described it as a ray of sunshine. but how do you get moving again without threatening these very fragile recoveries? both spain and italy under strict lockdown conditions. some people in spain and will be allowed to go back to work on monday but with very strict social distancing rules. that is what is and italy have been putting pressure on government to do but on friday beside it will extend the lockdown for another three weeks because it thinks it is too early to ease restrictions and really does not want to risk a second outbreak. easter celebrations will take place across the world today but without worshippers gathering together. pope francis has been leading the traditional easter vigil at st peter's in rome without a congregation. he will livestream his easter sunday mass, while the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby, will deliver his sermon via webcam from his kitchen table. the queen has delivered an easter message, speaking about the importance of hope at a difficult time, and how light overcomes the darkness. it's believed to be the first easter address she has made and was recorded in isolation in windsor castle. 0ur royal correspondent nicolas witchell has more. this is believed to be the first time the queen has delivered an easter message. coming less than a week after her televised broadcast from windsor, it underlines the gravity with which the current situation is regarded by the monarch. the theme of the audio message is light overcoming darkness, symbolised on the royal social media channels by the image of an easter candle. we know that coronavirus will not overcome us. as dark as death can be, particularly for those suffering with grief, light and life are greater. may the living flame of the easter hope be a steady guide as we face the future. the queen stressed the importance of the lockdown. by keeping apart, she said, we keep others safe. nicholas witchell, bbc news. how close are we to finding a coronavirus vaccine? that's one of the most urgent questions being asked on a daily basis, as scientists around the world race to find a way to treat covid—19. breakfast has been speaking exclusively to microsoft founder, bill gates, who has pledged to help fund factories testing for vaccines. he says finding a cure will take a global effort. let's take a look. the thing that will get us back to the world we had before coronavirus is the vaccine and getting that out to all 7 billion people. 18 months is about what we would expect. we are doing everything we can, we're things faster, governments can come along, it definitely should not be money limited. it should be all the best constructs, full speed ahead size limited. i am glad people are coming together to find where the best work, combine, the factory will best work, combine, the factory will be in best work, combine, the factory will beina best work, combine, the factory will be in a different country the science is in. this is the whole world working on probably the most important tool we have ever needed. bill gates will be on breakfast this morning at 840 a.m.. we'rejoined now from san diego by dr kate broderick, who works for one of the pharmaceutical companies urgently trying to develop a vaccine. thank you very much for talking to us. your company has been given $9 million by an organisation partly funded by bill gates. how far down the line to funding are you? we have actually just started our the line to funding are you? we have actuallyjust started our phase i clinical trials this week. we have started treating human beings without vaccine so that is a huge milestone in the past towards creating a vaccine that is ready for the entire global population. how long will it be before you know whether that is working? absolutely, so we already have data from laboratory so we already have data from la boratory tests so we already have data from laboratory tests which we feel we are quietly confident about the results so we're very excited about that and excited about fact that very soon we will be soon be able to have data from actual human beings that have been immunised with the vaccine. stage one data will be during the summer. data ready to be rolled out on a wider scale, what sort of timescale? it is really hard to say and, to be honest, the decision is not 100% hours. of course we have to work with that regulatory authorities in the appropriate countries. we are certainly internally aiming to have a1 certainly internally aiming to have a 1 million doses ready by the end of the year and during that time we are kind of working with large—scale manufacturers to ramp up those number of doses available so that we can move towards population numbers as soon as possible. are the regulations going to be as stringent for this as they would be for any new vaccine or, given the urgency, can things be expedited at all? what i would like to really stress is that, even though we are moving very rapidly and, certainly, we went from having the sequence of the virus to put the vaccine into humans in 83 days which is unprecedented, i do wa nt to days which is unprecedented, i do want to stress there were no shortcuts taken when it came to the safety checks that are absolutely mandated for us even in the us by the fda. -- mandated for us even in the us by the fda. —— here in the us. we are able to and have successfully shortened some of the timelines in some other areas of development. there are 20 different organisations i understand all trying to search for a vaccine. is there corporate competition or is everybody working together given the global scale of the situation and the urgency? i really would truly say if there is one positive thing that has come out of this outbreak it is the solidarity i see on a regular basis in the scientific community. i don't think it is a race of one entity against another, truly think it is a fight the virus. really, the level of communication, the level of information sharing, the sharing of tools and reagents has been something i haven't ever seen before in my career. somebody tweeted us this morning of a picture of, a tangent slightly, the flights in the air. 0ver europe there are some, one or two air. 0ver europe there are some, one ortwo in spain, air. 0ver europe there are some, one or two in spain, none in italy, some in the uk, in the us there seem to be planes everywhere. is the lockdown in the us or the lack of a lockdown, no there is one, is it working well enough? because obviously the us is on a really steep trajectory here with the number of deaths. yeah. certainly i'm here in california and i can certainly say without a doubt that the lockdown here in san diego is a very significant. they think that is the same in many of the hotspot areas. i would want to reiterate, though, that without a vaccine and without therapeutic drugs, lock down is the only tool that we have two combat the spread of this virus at the moment and, really, everybody should take that very, very, very seriously. the fact that it could be the end of the year before this is really ready, we should be looking, whatever country we are in, that a lockdown may have to stay in place for some time. potentially, yes. really we have to think of this is something that is not going to finish next week, that's for sure. have you still got family in scotland? have you still got family in scotland ? are you have you still got family in scotland? are you speak to them? it must be worrying for them to have you on the other side of the world. absolutely. they are all still in scotland. many members of my family we re scotland. many members of my family were for the nhs and, you know, all they can say is a appreciate everything that the nhs staff are doing. it is absolutely phenomenal that they are going into work and risking their lives. if that's not a good reason to stay—at—home, there surely can't be a better one. our thanks to you for the work you are doing and to yourfamily in thanks to you for the work you are doing and to your family in scotland for the amazing work they are doing. dr kate broderick, thanks so much for taking the time to talk to us. by for taking the time to talk to us. by now it is late at night there. we are grateful for you to stay up late to chat to bbc breakfast. dr kate broderick there. that is interesting. yes. so many people far away from their families. an incredibly difficult time. here's sarah with a look at this morning's weather. it looks very nice where you are. that backdrop, anyway. good morning. this is one of our weather watchers, in derbyshire, taken in the garden. a beautiful sunrise. for many of us first thing this morning pink skies in the morning. something of a shepherd's warning. we have heavy showers on the way later on today for some parts of england and wales in particular. what will you will notice to easter sunday, deagle across the northern half of the british isles, things are turning colder. it is a sign of things to come for all of us tomorrow. colder weather on the way. it is another one day across southern parts of england and much of wales, and with weather recently slipping up with the south—east. llopis across scandinavia now and that is drawing in the cold, northerly winds. the aircoming infrom in the cold, northerly winds. the air coming in from the north, the cold air mass pushing slowly south through today and more especially tomorrow. a much colderfield to through today and more especially tomorrow. a much colder field to the weather by the time we get to easter monday. for today, weather by the time we get to easter monday. fortoday, easter weather by the time we get to easter monday. for today, easter sunday, weather by the time we get to easter monday. fortoday, easter sunday, a lot of start and run for england and wales. if you misty pages here and there was should clear away quite quickly. as the temperatures rising could be the isolate a potentially heavy showers through the midlands, wales, east anglia stop northern ireland fairly cloudy with outbreaks of patchy rain, but we also have a few showers working in across the northern half of scotland. that is the cold front bringing in the cold conditions. aberdeen around 11 today, contrast that with london, 25 celsius. similar to recent days. here are the heavy showers. they will be hit and miss. not everyone will be hit and miss. not everyone will see them across england and wales. there could be the odd rumble of thunder. they pushed south through the night attend to this away. further knile —— north end skies clear could be a touch of frost across the far north of england, scotland, northern ireland. temperatures getting down below freezing in the countryside. mild the first thing towards the south, through the day we will notice that change in air mass. a cold northerly flow, bringing more to england and scotland. blustery went through the english channel whether could be gusts of 45 or 50 mph. later winds further north and more sunshine. this in conditions holding on for wales, north—west england, southern scotland, into northern ireland as well. temperatures lower than recent days. only 7— nine across the east coast. we could see 14 for the likes of cardiff and plymouth. as we head through easter monday night and into tuesday, this beggary —— big area of high pressure bills across the british isles. light winds, clear skies, and if you have been gardening through the easter weekend you could get frost on tuesday morning. a fairly chilly start of the week but then things will be warming up and staying mostly dry as we had through this coming week. regardless of the weather, of course, do bear in mind the rules about social distancing and stay at home where ever you can stop thank you, sarah. loving that blue top. sky blue. around the world, christians are celebrating an easter unlike any other before it. in italy, where lockdown restrictions have been extended until may, pope francis will give his easter sunday address in an empty st peter's square. more than 19,000 people have now died in the country as a result of coronavirus. 0ur rome correspondent mark lowen has this report. the silence of anguished devotion. ina the silence of anguished devotion. in a country ravaged by the virus faith is being tested. the church of the blistered redeemer, in the westie province, has lost more than 150 of its prisoners to the outbreak. in the easter services, streamed online, reference mixed with heartbreak. this was the scene here a fortnight ago from the overflowing cemetery. where the pews we re overflowing cemetery. where the pews were once packed with life, now for the dead. we reached the priest at the dead. we reached the priest at the end of the service. how to be the end of the service. how to be the voice of solace to explain the inexplicable. translation: the sadness of this community shows. you see it when you meet people. you feel it when the phone you. there is a sense of emptiness with this calamity that seems to be endless. a nurse call to pass on a message from a dying man. he wanted me to tell his wife that he loved her. these are people who have lived their lives simply and with love. this is the most important time of the year here at the vatican and st peter's square would usually be packed with tens of thousands of people right now from across the world. now look at it. while the worshippers must stay away, the church is trying to come to them through services and charity, knowing that for many their faith will help them get through this. at the soup kitchen of the catholic charity, demand is high. the lockdown is pushing people into poverty. the virus is forcing them apart. and it easter, when italians celebrate food and company, for some there are no other places to turn. being ina there are no other places to turn. being in a country which is in lockdown and there are no restau ra nts, lockdown and there are no restaurants, all bars are closed, those people living on the street they face, particularly, issues in finding food and finding someone who can help them. and that's why we have decided to keep the soup kitchen open to provide a space where to celebrate easter, to find friends, to look for people, and where to show love. this used to cater mainly to migrants, now most are italians and a health crisis that's become a social and economic one means that more will rely on it. translation: this is really difficult for all italians, notjust me. coronavirus is running the world. they don't meet my friends anymore. they are shut inside. translation: if we don't work and can't go out, how can we find something to eat? if nobody helps us what can we do? this easter, a tied nation will only celebrate when the outbreak is crushed. what is needed now is the resurrection of hope. mark lowen, bbc news, rome. most of us will be staying at home this easter weekend, but sadly, it's not always the safe haven it should be — particularly for victims of domestic abuse. yesterday, the home secretary revealed that the national domestic abuse helpline has seen a 25% increase in calls and online requests since lockdown began. priti patel said that services will receive an extra two million as part of a new support campaign. let's take a look. i'm launching a new national communications campaign to reach out to those who are at risk from abuse, highlighting that they can still leave home to get the support that you need. it will signpost victims, in terms of how they can access help, but also to reassure them, by making sure that they can access the services that they need at this particular time. and, importantly, it will tell them that they are not alone. priti patel speaking yesterday at the government's daily briefing. we talked now to lisa king from the refuge charity. thank you for your time. we mentioned that statistic of a 25 in -- 25% mentioned that statistic of a 25 in —— 25% increase in calls. is that what you are seeing? that 25% rise in calls is in regard to the domestic abuse helpline. pre— coronavirus it was busy anyway. we have seen a rise in the weekjust gone, monday to friday, the 25% increase in calls to that already busy 24—hour loan. increase in calls to that already busy 24-hour loan. in terms of what was announced yesterday, presumably it will help, but is it enough? there have been two announcements. there have been two announcements. there has been an announcement from the chancellor for 750 million for vulnerable people, including domestic violence victims and charities associated with that, we are yet to find out how much of that will be available for rufuge's frontline services, our actual refuges that remain open during this crisis, then there is the reference to the £2 million to specifically support helplines. again, waiting for detail on that. it is very welcome from the government at this time of great need when we're seeing his demand on our services across the country. can you try to give us detail by the conversations you have been having with some of the victims of domestic abuse in recent days and weeks? yeah, absolutely. we have had some big terms call the 24—hour national helpline that we run asking for information about how to access support during this period —— victims. wanting reassurance that our services remain open, which they do, we have seen a huge number of visits increase to our national helpline. we have a lot of people understand the issue better. there has been a huge amount of media week or so about about this important subject that is often neglected. people understanding exactly what domestic abuse is a knowing it is beyond physical abuse, it is also about emotional, psychological, economic, financial, sexual abuse. they are now understanding better the experience and knowing that they need support to. what advice would you give to anybody watching this who might be going through something similarto who might be going through something similar to what you have just spoken about? to absolutely know that they are not alone. that rufuge is their around—the—clock providing a host of different services. we have a team of experts who answer the helpline telephone number day in, day out. so call us whenever you possibly can. if you can't call, visit our website. there is loads of information. it is created for survivors, by survivors, and we have an online form that women can use to access support also, that we have digital tools. so please don't feel alone. reach out. we are here. but in an emergency they must call 999. that's a thing. so many people when this lockdown was announced must have felt an absolute fear and dread any pit of the stomach knowing they going to be confined in a place with somebody who either mentally or physically controlling them. you say call 999, is there still a way out for people, even now, when all our movements are restrict it? absolutely. and there has been a strong message from the home secretary to see if you are experiencing domestic abuse and you wa nt to experiencing domestic abuse and you want to leave your home and you are safe to leave your home and are able to do so, and rufuge supports that. our services are open. our refuges are still running. we have worked ha rd to are still running. we have worked hard to ensure that we have kept the show on the road and we have put lots of measures in place to keep women safe during this period of covid—19. absolutely, if you can and feel safe to, to leave, go to the police, we are taking the situation very seriously, it is a crime in women in support. they should reach out and access it stop how much of a blow for you, like many charities, is that some of the big fundraising events we would normally have during the summer, the london marathon, fun runs, things like that, have now been cancelled ? runs, things like that, have now been cancelled? of course it has driven a huge laurie through our fundraising income and that is very concerning for us. a large proportion of our income is volu nta ry proportion of our income is voluntary income. so that marathon as you say another big events have been a concern. but there has been a positive side. we have seen some fabulous donations from the public. lots of people wanting to donate to us and we are welcoming on that and need lots of it. and we have had great support from corporate partners who have stepped up to the plate, avon being one of those first out of the gate to support us with a £150,000 donation. some great levels of support. we just need more of it and what is anybody or any company wanting to provide support to get in contact with us and help us out. that would be amazing. all right, lisa, thank you very much. lisa king from rufuge. stay with us, headlines coming up. hello, this is breakfast, with sima kotecha and rogerjohnson. good morning. here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news: the number of people that have died from coronavirus in the uk is expected to pass 10,000 today. the government is still facing growing pressure to ensure that frontline workers have all the personal protective equipment they need. the deaths of five nhs staff have been announced since the health secretary said yesterday 19 workers have died. meanwhile, borisjohnson — who's recovering from covid—19 — has said he owes his life to staff at the hospital in london where he is being treated. time now to get some answers to some coronavirus questions. joining us from leeds is dramir khan. thank you for coming on again. good morning. sorry to get you up so early on a sunday. the weather seems to be getting better and it is tempting for people to get out more. what advice would you give to people who may want to go out, maybe sunbathe? i do not think there is excuse with these numbers rising as they. government guidelines are clear, you should only be going out for a short period of time, up to an hourfor for a short period of time, up to an hour for exercise. sunbathing, having a barbecue does not count. i am sorry for people who do not have gardens and i understand the frustration but other people's lives are not frustration but other people's lives a re not less frustration but other people's lives are not less important and you have to stay inside for the nhs and other vulnerable people. really, there is no excuse for it anymore. yesterday we heard from a 25—year—old who has now recovered from coronavirus. how big is the risk for young people? people in one age group think they are not at risk at all. nobody is at no risk. young people are still at risk. think about the young people in particular, yes, the vast majority will recover and have mild symptoms but a small number will have their immune system over reacting to the virus, causing inflammation in the lungs, causing fluid and pneumonia to build and thatis fluid and pneumonia to build and that is what is killing these young people. we keep hearing stories of young people, children, sadly, dying. this virus affects everyone. if you are young, you are not immune. stay indoors. what is your experience with ppe? if you had enough working in your surgery?m is best to say i have enough now. in the early stages we were asked to source our own ppe and had to go to hardware stores to get goggles and that sort of thing. we have enough in bradfield and within our practice but i am still getting calls from friends and hearing on the news about people who are having to make their own ppe or ration it. or ration it between patients. as long as nhs staff are saying they would not have enough, there is not enough. i know the government is saying it is a logistical thing and they just have to saying it is a logistical thing and theyjust have to get it to places but that has been said for a few weeks now and, to be honest, to put it frankly, i think nhs workers are sick of hearing that, we want the ppe so we can look after our patients. are you confident the government will provide enough of it? hopeful rather than confident. i am hoping they do. matt hancock's words about nhs workers having to use it more resourcefully were really unhelpful and deeply offensive to nhs staff. we are doing everything we can and they have to get it right. what did you make of priti patel‘s apology yesterday? get it right. what did you make of priti patel's apology yesterday?” think when anyone says i am sorry for the way you feel, that is not a real apology. i have said we did not get a real apology. further nhs workers have died since priti patel came on yesterday, taking the number up came on yesterday, taking the number up to 24. every single nhs worker who dies, it is like a family member dying because we are all in this together and when you say i am sorry for the way you feel, it does not work as an apology. a couple of days ago, a neurologist died and a few days before he passed away he was talking about not having enough ppe so anyone saying i am sorry for the way you feel just as not cut so anyone saying i am sorry for the way you feeljust as not cut it so anyone saying i am sorry for the way you feel just as not cut it for us. something on the bbc website, about black and minority ethnic people post being more vulnerable to coronavirus, is this something you are saying in your surgery and is it something that people in that demographic should be worried about? yes. there is evidence and when you look at the nhs workers, the high proportion up from a minority. it doesn't worry me as someone from that particular background. i work in bradfield where there is a high african minority. but we are seeing patients from that minority. is it health inequalities, genetic, dietary? we're not quite sure yet but it is worrying and going back to the point of the high number of ethnic minority doctors who have died, who have come here to the nhs, over the last couple of years there have been ugly debates around immigration and! have been ugly debates around immigration and i hope this goes somewhere in showing what this immigration population is doing for this country. they are making the ultimate sacrifice and it shows people on the wrong side of that debate that immigrants are good for this country. moving on to mental health, do you think there will be problems after this is over for staff who work in hospitals because what people like you are seeing is incredibly difficult. we see it on the news but you are on the frontline. do you think they will be people seeking counselling and help after this is over? yes, no doubt there will be. nhs has set up a helpline. he was suffering from mental health distress. lots of people dying in a short space of time, people like paramedics, a&e, seeing large numbers die in a matter of hours and having difficult conversations with family members. often we are trying to have these horrible conversations face—to—face and do it in a delicate way but we are having to do it on the telephone which is not something we have been trained to do and i have had to make phone calls this week to family members who have lost people in care homes to say their family members have died or are getting very, very well and it is nothing i have had to do on the phone before because of the lot down and restrictions in place and quite rightly i have had to do it on the telephone and it makes it all the more harderfor them and for us. i do think it will have an effect on our mental health. thank you and thank you for doing such a fantasticjob, you and your colleagues, we really do appreciate it. let's catch up with the sport and use of another premier league football clu b and use of another premier league football club doing some furloughing but not full—blown at this stage. not choosing to do it in some of the way the big clubs are doing it and some of the big clubs facing criticism for using taxpayer money. sheffield united are the latest premier league club to furlough some non playing staff, but will continue to pay them in full. they say only those who can't perform their regular duties are affected and won't use the government's job retention scheme yet, unlike tottenham, newcastle, bournemouth and norwich. united are also allowing staff to voulenteer with the nhs united are also allowing staff to volunteer with the nhs orjoin similar initatives. it will be interesting to see the reaction. to a huge row in scotland and it's all about the vote on whether to end the season for clubs below the premiership. dundee have delayed their vote, but there are claims they are being influenced to vote for the proposals. this rangers say they have evidence there's been a lack of fair play and they‘ re calling for the suspension of the football league's chief executive. our sports news correspondent in scotland, chris mclaughlin explains. there is real uncertainty as to why they have suddenly switched from being "no" to potentially being "yes". that appears to be the crux of the issue with this rangers statement. they think that perhaps something has happened uptowards behind the scenes to make dundee stall on their decision. well, football is on hold right across europe, apart from one country — belarus. they're still playing after the country's prime minister said he wasn't worried about covid—19. make of that what you will. well, the match was in the country's top division and it was torpedo zhodino who won partly thanks to that goal. great strike by brazillian gabriel ramos. they beat energetik—bgu 2—0 to leapfrog them into top spot in the table. it seems strange to be watching sport still going on in europe. now it's notjust kids who are home schooling during the lockdown. sportspeople are also burying themselves in books as competitions are cancelled. and for good reason. experts says planning for retirement now can alleviate the current boredom and also ease mental health concerns at the end of their careers. ben croucher has more. this is what sport looks like right now. it has left many feeling a bit empty. not least the sportsmen and women with a lot more time on their hands. as sport switches off, many are turning their laptops on. worcester prop, ethan waller, is tackling a maths and business degree and financial advisor qualifications. now that we've got all this spare time during the day, i'm probably going to try and just get ahead as much as possible, so that when it is all over, and we're back to normality, i will probably take my foot off the gas a bit and say, right, now i can sort of ease off this a little bit. player associations and performance lifestyle advisors have seen a spike in demand in recent weeks, and not just for practical qualifications. we have created something that we have call the social isolation guide. we have a list of podcasts for them to listen to. a then a number of links to on line courses covering a variety of different topics, from their mindfulness, bookkeeping, accountancy, languages and we have had a huge uptake. one player taking advantage of thisd is england opener, tammy beaumont studying, garden design and climate change. probably a little bit at beginners stage at the moment butjust kind of trying to broaden my horizons and get into some new kind of interests and hobbies outside of cricket so that when i finish hopefully i have a few more ideas of maybe what i want to go into as my second career. it's not been quite so simple for everyone though. commentator: and elena barker is the world champion! elana barker might have to wait until 2022 to graduate, after deferring herfina l;year of her open university degree for the olympics, only to see the games postponed. it's that sense of purpose and feeling like i am actually working towards something. particularly if you are having a bad day on the bike, or if you're injured or if you're ill and you can't train, or if you're not picked for a race, for example — it is something else to focus your mind on so you can't really dwell on it too much. it is the mental health benefits of having non—sporting interets that experts believe can actually improve performance. what this might teach athletes is how fragile sport can be, so having something else that they can then fall back onto so when sport is challenged, so even if it is something like an injury or de—selection or something bigger, like this, they have something else that they can kind of focus their energy on. so when the laptops are shut and sport restarts, you mightjust be watching athletes with a little more to their game than before. ben croucher, bbc news. and various sports people have been trying to raise money for the nhs during this crisis. we saw adam peaty auction off some trunks the other day. well, tour de france champion geraint thomas is the latest to throw his hat in the ring. all right now, with bike riding, i thought, do a charity ride and i'll mirror an nhs worker's shift so, starting wednesday 15th april, i'm going to be here in my garage — picturesque garage — and i am going to do three back—to—back 12 hour shifts, starting wednesday and finishing friday evening, and all the money going obviously going to nhs. 312 hour shifts on the bike. that has got to chafe —— three 12 hour shifts. i expected will. has got to chafe —— three 12 hour shifts. iexpected will. i'm has got to chafe —— three 12 hour shifts. i expected will. i'm sure there will be plentyjoining him for that. here's sarah with a look at this morning's weather. that rhymes. sarah with the weather. sort of. the sun has risen on easter sunday and it is quite a serene start to the day across many parts of the country. this is the picture in west sussex taking from a back garden. through today there will be a real change in the weather. starting across the northern half of the uk called at moving in. by the time we get to tomorrow, easter monday, the cold and will be right across the uk. today is another warm day in the south, but we will have heavy showers and possibly thunderstorms to content with later on as well. the dry settled weather we have seen recently is courtesy of a big area of high pressure that is slipping away was the south—east. low pressure cross scandinavia. that will be drawing in these cold, northerly winds. a change in air mass, the blue colours returning through the day and tomorrow easter monday, a cold feeling day for all of us. through the course of today, for much of england and wales, a fine start, misty patches. sunshine until around lunchtime when we start to see the showers popping up. for northern ireland, a cloudy story with a few outbreaks of rain, and for scotland some sunny spells through central parts of scotland. towards the north moore cloud and a few showers is a cold front makes its way in. a real contrast in temperature out there. aberdeen with highs of around 11, towards london around 25 celsius, similar to recent days. the areas most likely —— areas most likely to heavy showers away is, the midlands, perhaps east anglia as well. they will be hit and miss. don't be surprised if you hear the odd rumble of thunder into the evening. she was fading away towards the south through the course of the night. mild across south wales in southern england. a cold night for much of northern england, northern ireland, scotland where we are likely to see a touch a frosty start of easter monday. through the day tomorrow a different feel to the weather, particularly in eastern coast of scotland and east coast of england as well. more cloud drawn in as the cold wind comes in from the north sea. gusty went through the english channel as well. lost recognition sound was the channel isles. lighter winds, a little warmer with some sunshine to parts of wales, towards north—west england, south of scotland into northern ireland as well. temperature is about 14 degrees in the warmest spots. only 7— nine in these coast with the windchill as well. significantly colder through easter monday, certainly compared to the last couple of days. a big area of high pressure take hold as we had on through monday night into tuesday. the light winds and clear skies we could see a touch of frosty first thing tuesday. bear that in mind if you have been doing some gardening through the easter weekend. a chilly start to this week. things don't warmer once again through the week and dry weather on the cards. enjoy it from your garden or out of your window. indeed. thank you very much indeed. time now for a look at this week's click. hello. we're still here. and so are you. so, welcome. i hope you're well. we are and we've been working hard on a new—look click that will work when we can't get out and about as much. so, my living room is also my studio and welcome to my sofa. the good news is, you don'tjust get to look inside my house. we get to look inside lara's as well. let's go there now. hello mate, how have you been? i'm 0k. i've actually been pretty busy, albeit virtually. luckily, like you, i have one of these in my house. it's funny that, isn't it? how are you? alright, thanks. i think we both appreciate that we are lucky to still be working which keeps us busy and keeps us in a good frame of mind. but, i'm missing the people that i can't be with and we are all adjusting here as well. these are strange times. what we plan to do in the next few weeks is look at some technologies and gadgets that will help you during lockdown. whether that is to help you work or communicate or play or to help with the kids. or to relieve stress, which is what we're going to do first because this is an anxious situation. you have got something that might help, right? i have. this is the somnox sleep robot. the idea is that it sort of breathes next to you as you cuddle it. it's designed for insomniacs, it has sensors in it, an accelerometer and a c02 sensor. and it will track the breathing rate of the user and it will breathe a fair bit slower than the person using it. the idea being that if you're breathing rate drops then you're more likely to get off to sleep easily. i didn't have the greatest time with it. it felt quite odd holding onto it. i can imagine, yeah. it really did. i put it on the floor and what was even stranger, it was breathing down on the floor. the thing i do have to say that when i tested it in the daytime on its relaxation mode, it did feel a little bit more like going to a yoga class and getting your breathing right for that. i can certainly see the relaxation purpose and maybe if i was a real insomniac, it could help. and there are so many ways that we are seeing technology being used at the time of this pandemic. as the virus continues to spread, some governments around the world have launched contact tracing apps which they hope may help control it. in israel, the shield app records gps location, storing that data locally on a user's device. so if somebody gets the virus, they're asked if they are happy to share their data with the platform, so anyone they may have been in contact with can be notified. in singapore, the trace together app is hoping to do the same but using bluetooth signals to monitor user's phones that have been at nearby. this method, some argue, is more privacy conscious. i downloaded the app because it is just easier for the contact tracers to contact me or i can help them to contact other people if i was actually affected. until these apps, contact tracing had been a very manual process. the person must be well enough to answer your questions. he must be able to list down the details of where he went and the things he did. and often, he cannot remember what happened. the more we lose those details, the more we can't control the epidemic effectively. many more countries are looking to launch contact tracing apps. while the uk is considering a similar one to singapore, the eu is advocating a single app with data protection at its heart. for many, religion offers some spiritual calm, but of course at the moment, communities can't get together in the way that they normally would. yes, so religious leaders are doing what they can to work around this. this muslim call to prayer in egypt has been replaced by a message urging people to stay home and pray. and the jewish festival of passover started this week and that has been looking a little different too. the rabbi here has been doing his best to connect with his community online. as well as videos of what would be happening in synagogue, here, he's demonstrating how the seder, the first dinner of passover is set up. and this easter‘s sunday service will also be different. sophia smith galer has been finding out how religions are adapting. with mass gatherings being banned, many religions have had to stop public worship. and with churches closing, many have had to be particularly innovative with some turning to live—streaming. good morning everyone. this is terribly exciting. saint james' in sussex gardens in london is one of the churches that's been experimenting online. we were determined that the worshipping life of the church should continue but it would have to continue in new and unexpected ways. when the coronavirus crisis started, they began live—streaming their services on facebook. but they haven't stopped at that. we have a large group of families, a large number of children, so we wanted to provide something that would speak to them, comfort them, encourage them and build them up in the faith. so yes, we threw our all into a rather madcap virtual sunday school. it's palm sunday. every week, we send out an ‘e—sunday‘ which contains the readings for the day and other notices and other devotional materials, and also an activity. so families download the activity. we're going to make... this week, we made a cross for easter for palm sunday. and then about two weeks ago, we made this virgin mary. it's been a lovely way to maintain continuity now that normal life has been... there's been a bit of a hiatus in normal life and it's been a lovely way to maintain a sense of normality. there's been a focus on web resources like achurchnearyou.com, which is our church finder. it has been a really, really key resource for us. in recent weeks, we have had more than 3,000 live—streamed services listed on that site. as someone who is a regular church—goer myself, i can't wait for that day when on that sunday, i can walk back into my church and see families, loved ones and friends for the first time. i got slightly emotional about that. all of these digital responses to this crisis have undoubtedly changed how people interact with faith online. but what will be interesting to see is how much of it will remain after the crisis is over? that was sophia smith galer and i'm joined online now by the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby. archbishop justin, thank you for taking the time to talk to us. a great pleasure to be with you. i am very happy to be here. we just talked about some of the new, online tools and services that the church is providing. how do you think they will benefit people? you will have seen and i know you have seen, churches using live—streaming, which is having a huge impact. there was a service a couple of weeks ago that reached 12 million people —10—times our normal number of total church attendance. it is remarkable. you couldn't begin to do that in the past, the best you could have was a nationally televised service. here, you can have everything from a nationally televised service to something that is just relevant to your village, town, your city — you're part of the world. or you canjoin in something from anywhere in the world. we had comments from something i did online, i won't say from where, but a country where it's very difficult to be a christian in public. you're not allowed to worship or own yourfaith in public. they had a message saying, i haven't been able to go to church but i've justjoined in a service with the archbishop of canterbury. there's a cloud to every silver lining but i think it was the service that mattered. and so technology is transforming the reach, the ability to comfort, console and encourage. it is a time of several religious festivals at the moment — it's easter, passover, ramadan. traditionally a time when families and friends will get together. there will be people who want to come to a church. what would you say to them? well, what i would say to them is, you know, that's me as well. the idea of not being at an easter service... i can't remember any time i've not been at an easter service in the last, more than 40 years. and so, it is going to be very strange but in the earliest centuries of christian history, church was in the home. and these wonderful buildings we have in the uk, these amazing historical buildings, our treasures but they are not essentials. we can worship and christians all over the world do, without buildings. the technology side is giving us a sense of a resurrection of generosity, of contact. of care for one another. and the challenge and the hope is what we're doing for each other now, and that sense of mutual compassion and support that technology's enabling, will be carried on in the new world after this pandemic has died down. justin welby, the archbishop of canterbury. thanks so much for your time. thank you, spencer, very much indeed. that's it for the short cut of this rather unusual programme but i think we pulled it off, didn't we? i hope so. the full—length version can be found on the bbc iplayer. as ever, you can keep track of what the team are looking at. we are a little less out and about than usual. on facebook, instagram, youtube and twitter at bbc click. thank you very much for watching and if it's all right with you, we will see you again soon. stay safe, stay well. good morning, welcome to breakfast with sima kotecha and rogerjohnson. our headlines today: the number of people who have died with coronavirus in the uk is set to pass 10,000, as tributes are paid to nhs staff who have lost their lives. boris johnson says he "owes his life" to staff at st thomas's hospital in london, where he's spent the last seven nights. the urgent search for a vaccine — billionaire bill gates speaks exclusively to breakfast about how he's trying to help. this is the whole world working on probably the most urgent tool that's ever been needed. good morning. a mixed picture weather—wise. we are looking at another warm day in the south, things turning colder in the north. expect some heavy showers and thunderstorms later this afternoon. all the details shortly. it's easter sunday, the 12th of april. our top story. the number of deaths among patients with coronavirus is expected to pass 10,000 today. officials are continuing to press the message to the public to stay at home over the easter weekend, to try to prevent the figure from escalating even further. boris johnson, who's recovering from covid—19, has said he owes his life to staff at the hospital in london where he is being treated. simonjones reports. tributes to the latest nhs workers to die after contracting coronavirus. nurse gareth roberts described as "a kind and helpful person" by the cardiff and vale health board. sara trollope, seen here with the prime minister, a nurse said to have a total determination to get things right for her patients at hillingdon hospital. the health secretary matt hancock said yesterday that 19 nhs workers had lost their lives, and now another chief executive has had to break bad news to his staff. i had to share the news of the sudden death of one of our own. a much—loved member of our nursing team, julie omar. i also know that this news will have a profound impact on many of you, not least because it brings the tragic consequences of this outbreak even closer to home than it already was. the government says it's looking into how nhs staff had become infected, but it's facing growing pressure to ensure that front line workers have all the personal protective equipment they need. i'm sorry if people feel that there have been failings — i'll be very, very clear about that — but at the same time, we are in an unprecedented global health pandemic right now. it is inevitable that the demand and the pressures on ppe and the demand for ppe are going to be exponential, they're going to be incredibly high and, of course, we are trying to address that as a government. the ultimate goal is to find a vaccine against coronavirus. the tech billionaire bill gates has promised large sums to fight the infection. but in an interview with breakfast, he warns a vaccine may be up to 18 months away. the thing that'll get us back to the world that we had before coronavirus is the vaccine and getting that out to all seven billion people. this is the whole world working on probably the most urgent tool ever needed. facing his own challenge, the prime minister. recovering at st thomas' hospital in london, he's paid tribute to nhs medics for pulling him through, saying "i cannot thank them enough. i owe them my life." simon jones, bbc news. we can speak now to our political correspondent, jessica parker. jessica, it may well be some time before the prime minister is back to work? yeah, ithink yeah, i think that is right. we understand boris johnson yeah, i think that is right. we understand borisjohnson likely yeah, i think that is right. we understand boris johnson likely to spend the coming weeks recuperating because, of course, he was a pretty ill. admitted to hospital a week ago today, then admitted to intensive ca re today, then admitted to intensive care 24 hours later, given oxygen support, though he was never put on a ventilator. we understand boris johnson telling friends that he owes his life to those doctors and nurses at st thomas' hospital in london. questions have inevitably been asked about when the prime minister will be back at work. downing street relu cta nt to be back at work. downing street reluctant to put a timeline on when he may leave hospital, when he may be back behind the desk. but we understand friends, colleagues, doctors telling him he has got to ta ke doctors telling him he has got to take his time in terms of that recovery. dominic raab, the foreign secretary, has been deputising for the prime minister. we understand that will continue to be the case. he will be the man in charge as the government decides this week whether to extend lockdown measures. the current music —— mood music suggests it will. and the new labour leader has been asking for a recall of parliament? that's right. parliament was due back on april the 21st. however, i don't think anyone has thought for quite a that we would see mps coming back from all corners of the country, piling into the house of commons and taking pmqs, for example. but for the labour leader, there needs to be scrutiny of the government's handling of the crisis. he has a more transparent exit strategy. these concerns raised in the last few days about personal protective equipment, especially. he has written to the leader of the house of commons, jacob rees—mogg, requesting urgent talks, saying there must be some kind of technological solution to make sure that parliament can operate. a spokeswoman forjacob rees—mogg said parliament will return in april 21 in some form. they are looking how that might be possible. a house of commons commission last week said it was working around the clock looking at solutions such as video conferencing. it seems likely parliament will return in some form, not in any way we have seen it before. thank you, jessica. hospital consultants have told the bbc that some key medicines used in intensive care are "in relatively short supply". the royal college of anaesthetists says stocks of medicines in some areas are also "stretched". it said staff were being advised to find alternatives, but reassured patients that they would not be put at risk. the united states has become the first country in the world hospital consultants have told the bbc that some key medicines used the united states has become the first country in the world to record more than 2,000 coronavirus deaths in a single day. there has now been more than 20,000 deaths across the usa, and more than half a million confirmed infections. a major disaster has been declared in all states in response to the outbreak. easter celebrations will take place across the world today, but without worshippers gathering together. pope francis has been leading the traditional easter vigil at st peter's in rome without a congregation. he will livestream his easter sunday mass, while the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby, will deliver his sermon via webcam from his kitchen table. the queen has delivered an easter message, speaking about the importance of hope at a difficult time, and how light overcomes the darkness. it's believed to be the first easter address she has made and was recorded in isolation in windsor castle. our royal correspondent, nicolas witchell, has more. this is believed to be the first time the queen has delivered an easter message. coming less than a week after her televised broadcast from windsor, it underlines the gravity with which the current situation is regarded by the monarch. the theme of the audio message is light overcoming darkness, symbolised on the royal social media channels by the image of an easter candle. we know that coronavirus will not overcome us. as dark as death can be, particularly for those suffering with grief, light and life are greater. may the living flame of the easter hope be a steady guide as we face the future. the queen stressed the importance of the lockdown. by keeping apart, she said, we keep others safe. nicholas witchell, bbc news. many nhs staff have been moved from their regular roles to work in the uk's intensive care units, and are facing huge pressures as a result of an increased workload and fear of contracting the virus. but an important consideration for staff is how they can support the very sickest patients and their families, and give them some dignity in death. we can speak now to dr dominic pimenta, who is normally a cardiology registrar, but is working in intensive care at st bartholomew's hospital in london. thank you very much indeed for talking to us on bbc breakfast. i guess first of all, obviously you are not at work right now, but when you left at the end of your last shift, how are things in your intensive care unit? yeah, everybody is doing really well. we are doing the best that we can. obviously i've moved into an entirely new specialty but the response has been pretty amazing. people are very flexible. we are doing as best we can in the situation. so far coping very well. how has the change been for you from being a registrar in cardiology to go into icu? you may have come across it at some point in your training but you are really in it now? yeah. i did a little bit in my training. for us it is potentially a smallerjump training. for us it is potentially a smaller jump than some training. for us it is potentially a smallerjump than some of our colleagues. i think for doctors especially it is not necessarily a bigjump, especially it is not necessarily a big jump, because we are used to moving departments, we are used to doing new things. we should be very thankful for the amazing efforts of the nursing staff. for some of them it isa the nursing staff. for some of them it is a massive jumper. often i have worked in intensive care and i have been embedded in specialties with specific teams. the people they have undergone is amazing. i am specific teams. the people they have undergone is amazing. lam in specific teams. the people they have undergone is amazing. i am in all of what they are doing. what sort of challenges are you finding at the moment in the unit where you are working? so obviously it's a very tricky time at the moment because there are incredible prices. everybody is adapting as best we can. “— everybody is adapting as best we can. —— incredible pressure. we are always looking for novel solutions to tricky problems. the public goodwill, the support we have had, we have been getting food donations and public gifts of easter eggs and chocolate, which has actually made a really, really big difference. the ordination i involved with, heroes, we do that and a national scale, trying to get food and donations to support nhs workers on the front line. and as a front—line doctor myself, it does make a big difference. the issue of personal protective equipment is one which has been around for weeks now. are you getting sufficient where you are? i am in intensive care and we are? i am in intensive care and we are incredibly well protected. my organisation belongs to a wider organisation belongs to a wider organisation and we are doing a collaboration of industry experts, engineers and manufacturers, looking at some novel ways to try to augment the ppe. certainly anecdotally nationally there are pockets of need and we are trying to address that, notjust in hospitals, in hospices, gps, care homes. we supplied some masks to a hospice recently because it was facing closure. there are severe areas it was facing closure. there are severe areas with shortages. one of the things we have been looking at is novel methods for reusable personal protective equipment, specifically visors. i have got one here. we have a hub in london which reopened this week, which can produce 1700 visors a day. with material support through the goodwill of charitable organisations we can continue to do that. it is fantastic work your organisation is doing. ona fantastic work your organisation is doing. on a personal level, i know doctors, i have come across friends over the years who are doctors, and some of the things that you see are the kind of things most of us cannot imagine. but what sort of personal toll is this taking on you and your colleagues? that's a very difficult question. i think before i was quite so question. i think before i was quite so busy. so running this organisation is like a full—time job. the days at work were hard. but the downtimes were probably harder in that there is a feeling of, and i suppose the country is feeling the same, powerlessness, of wanting to help, a frustration to want to help and not being able to do all that you can. so part of the reason we started what we're doing right now is on started what we're doing right now isona started what we're doing right now is on a wider level to harness that energy the public, but on a personal leveljust to keep busy, because you have to keep going and not think about these things, to fill your time ina about these things, to fill your time in a way that is productive and can feel like you are contributing as best you can. one final one, if i may. you are normally a registrar cardiologist. it is important to stress, isn't it, that although you are working in the intensive care at the moment, the nhs is still open for people with heart problems, that they must still come to hospital and access the services as they need them? absolutely. if you are in any way worried about your health, you must still get health care. especially when it comes to heart emergencies. if you are having a heart attack, if you have a bowel problem, there is care for you everywhere in the country. the nhs is never closed. we are doing as much as we can, but we can always look after everybody as best we can. please do not delay coming to hospital. i hope you know and i think you do from all the easter eggs you have been receiving, that we are enormously grateful to you. thank you very much for talking to us this morning. thank you. here's sarah with a look at this morning's weather. good morning. a fine start to the day. the sun has now risen on easter sunday. this was taken by one of our weather watchers. some clear skies out there. it won't be dry throughout the day. some heavy showers in the forecast. the thing we will all notice is things are turning colderfrom we will all notice is things are turning colder from the we will all notice is things are turning colderfrom the north through the day, especially for easter monday tomorrow. a colder field. but for the here and now the high pressure that has been in charge of our weather bringing that one unsettled weather for many, that is clearing away to the near continent. low pressure sitting across scandinavia drawing in these cold northerly winds. a change in the air mass. you can see the blue colours moving south. a different feel to the weather. another warm day today in the south. from much of england and wales, a good deal of sunshine. some misty patches. they seem clear away. more cloud because parts of northern england into northern wales as well. the best of the sunshine towards the south—east. for northern ireland, a cloudy day ahead. with some outbreaks of rain, particularly towards the south—east. for scotland, some bright and sunny spells but chilly with showers. temperatures in aberdeen, 11 degrees. london should see highs of 25. but with the heat building we should see some heavy showers and thunderstorms, especially in the central parts of wales, through the midlands, northern ireland, towards east anglia. the rumble of thunder this evening. they push south and fade away overnight. further north we have those clearing skies. a cold night with a touch of frost across parts of scotland. temperatures in the countryside getting down to freezing first thing easter monday. a very different feeling day tomorrow. especially across eastern parts of scotland and down the east coast of england. here you are exposed to this cold northerly wind coming in off the north sea. strong winds for the south—east of england and the english channel. we could see 50 mph gusts. less windy for the likes of wales, north—west england, south—west scotland and northern ireland. temperatures in cardiff, for example, getting up to 14 degrees. down the east coast, just seven to nine celsius. around about ten to 15 degrees cooler than recent days. this big area of high pressure building through monday night into tuesday. with those light winds and clear skies, we are expecting a touch of frost the first thing tuesday. bear that in mind if you have been guarding through the easter weekend. a chilly start to this week. thing is warming up later in the week and lots of dry weather on the cards. whatever the weather, it doesn't change the rules about staying at home and social distancing. it would be a lot easier if it was raining everywhere at the moment as well! not the sort of weather for staying in and watching films when the weather is like this. no, but thatis the weather is like this. no, but that is what we must do. from doctors to supermarket workers, nursery staff to train drivers — earlier in the week we showed you some of the lovely thank you messages children of key workers have sent to their parents. we were absolutely inundated, and we promised we would show you the rest today. so here they are. what does mummy do? nice. my daddy drives a car. it's rock. my mum takes care of older people and my mum isa takes care of older people and my mum is a nurse. my daddy works in the school. my daddy is a superhero. thank you mummy. i want to say thank you to my mummy and my daddy. thank you! we love you. thank you, mummy. thank you mum. keep safe and i love you so much. i'm proud of my mummy and daddy because they help people. my mum works for entry hospital. she is a nurse works for entry hospital. she is a nurse and she helps to care for people with coronavirus and i'm really proud of her for doing all this to help. thank you. thank you for tackling the coronavirus. thanks mum and dad. my mum delivers medicine to people. my one works for the nhs. i am proud of my mum because she saves lives. love you. i love you mum. thank you! my my mum helps people eat and my dad helps people go to work. thank you for all the things you do. i love you mummy and daddy. thank you daddy. thank you daddy. my mum works in hospital. she makes people feel better. thank you, mum. thank you key workers. thank you mum and dad! and a big thank you from us for sharing your messages. you can get in touch on [email protected], or tweet using the hashtag bbcbreakfast. fantastic. lovely messages there. nationwide lockdown measures, in place now for almost three weeks, are presenting a range of challenges in all sorts of circumstances. it's been especially difficult though, for those who've recently left the care system — often estranged from relatives and without support networks. ashleyjohn—baptiste has more. it's very empty, very deserted. haven't seen anyone for a few days. daily life for diana, a 20—year—old ca re lever daily life for diana, a 20—year—old care lever estranged from her pa rents care lever estranged from her parents and stuck in student accommodation. so most people have been picked up by their parents. but i'm pretty much stuck here now. i'm finding things quite a challenging at the moment. since the covid—19 lock dan a lot of students have gone home and i am still going to be in holes, because i don't have a home to go back to. the whole of campus is shut and it does feel quite isolating. as someone who grew up in care, i'm aware of the unique challenges that ca re leavers aware of the unique challenges that care leavers face. when the uk went into lockdown, i wanted to find out how they were coping. this is where 20—year—old kate lives. she relies on universal credit. you can see our kitchen. that tiny bit of there. i have got a tiny little bathroom. so thatis have got a tiny little bathroom. so that is your whole living space? yeah, my living room, my bedroom... a lot of care leavers are estranged from their family. their main point of co nta ct, from their family. their main point of contact, their main point of support. i am a self isolating but i have got nobody to support me with that. nobody can go and do my shopping, nobody can help me if i get it. you are still alone in a basically. there is not really any support. according to recent figures, almost half of care leavers struggle with their mental health in normal times and one in four heavy mental health crisis. experts predict these figures get worse. 17—year—old freya lives in supported accommodation. she has had a particularly tough time. so, a couple of days after the garment announced a locked down my local authority moved me from one supported lodging to another, with little notice. it is a strange situation to be in. i had been working the weekend before that with the public. i could have had a virus and not known. then i am moving at a warehouse with total strangers who have met like once. a leading charity is calling on councils to do more. we know that councils are under real pressure at the moment. we would like to see all councils making a real effort to reach out to ca re making a real effort to reach out to care leavers. we would like to see emergency funding from government to help them with that important work and also to make emergency cash available for those care leavers who are struggling and really needed. according to the local government association, councils are working ha rd to association, councils are working hard to make sure care leavers get the support they need. as tough as things are, these care leavers, like so many others across the nation, are remaining resilient. it feels like everything bad that could go wrong is going wrong at the minute, but i've just got to keep moving wrong is going wrong at the minute, but i'vejust got to keep moving on with it, i suppose. freya, thank you. 24 minute spa state now. the andrew marr show is on bbc one at nine o'clock. parliament is in recess but still lots to talk about, isn't there? there is a lot to talk about. i am joined by the archbishop of canterbury on easter sunday, talking about delivering his easter message and its entire easter service from his kitchen. i'm joined and its entire easter service from his kitchen. i'mjoined by and its entire easter service from his kitchen. i'm joined by one of the government was my chief scientific advisers, director of the welcome trust, who has already told me britain might be on course for the worst death record, death rate from coronavirus, in europe. and he also says the relevant committee was wrong to keep the death rate at moderate last month. i am joined by alok sharma, the business secretary, to speak for the government. and i am joined by lisa nandy, to speak for the opposition. we have also got fantastic music. a very busy hour and ten minutes from nine o'clock. thank you, andrew. in her easter message, the queen focused on the church as the light "guiding us through the darkness" of the coronavirus pandemic. reverend richard coles, vicar and co—presenter of radio 4's saturday live, says the church is more engaged with the community than ever before. he joins us now to tell us more. with his dog, pongo. hello pongo! hello. not licking your face at the moment. that is a special easter treat. my easter case. he might grow a little bit. i am sure our reviewers don't mind. it must be a very strange easter for you, reviewers don't mind. it must be a very strange easterfor you, not being ina very strange easterfor you, not being in a church? yes, the weirdest easter we have ever known. we don't wa nt easter we have ever known. we don't want to be a vector of infection. everything is coming to the vicarage. the archbishop of canterbury is preaching from his kitchen, i will be doing it from my dining room. it means so much of our effort has gone, instead of gathering people in one place, we reach out to our community. along with clergy the length and breadth of britain, we are coordinating our community response team so every household in my paris has a named coordinator they can call if they need any help, picking up prescriptions, doing shopping. as these weeks become months, it is going to be much more about providing support, spiritual support, and also counselling because i think people are beginning to find the pressures. also, bereavements are stacking up it now too. we are having to find new ways of engaging with people suffering a bereavement. and a personal question if you don't mind. it is your first one without your partner. how are you feeling at the moment? my partner david died at christmas. grief and bereavement forces isolation upon you. then it is more intense when everybody else is experiencing the isolation too. i do what people who profess christian faith have always done. i look towards easter, which is with us today, and that brings a bright new dawn into the darkness, is the queen said. and in that is the promise of new life. today after i finish my services in the dining room, i am going to use my exercise outing and cycle over to the graveyard where david is buried and i will lay flowers on his grave, give thanks to the wonderful life we had together here and thanks also for the new life that waits for us, thanks to easter, which is now all around us. if you can get out into nature and see if you can get out into nature and see the trees begin to come into board and the blossom on the bow, that sense of renewal, that sense of the promise of life, is a very powerful one. richard, someone said to me yesterday, talking about the way in which unfortunately people are not able to say goodbye to loved ones who made died during this pandemic in the way that they would wa nt pandemic in the way that they would want because funerals are restricted ina number, want because funerals are restricted in a number, that when we eventually emerge from this, as we surely will, they will be a lot of memorial services and people will still want to come together to celebrate lives? yes, i think the interesting thing about that is it shifts the emphasis away from a funeral, which is saying goodbye. people heartbreakingly are having to do that on their own at the moment. i'm in touch through social media with lots of people experiencing bereavement at the moment and it's very tough for them. it does mean when this is over, it will be over, we can return to rejoicing in our churches and giving thanks for the wonderful lives of those people we've shared are lives with and had to say goodbye to one of these really, really weird circumstances. you mention some of the outreach things you are doing to support people in your parish. are you finding that people quite often, in times of adversity, look for a strength, even though they can't see you physically and be with you physically as the local vicar? yeah. we are a very traditional english country parish. the charges at the heart of the community. i have only one church, i am the vicar, everybody knows who i am. it forces me to be the person at the centre of the effort to coordinate our response to the community. that has been wonderful. we have heard a bit in the news about a few people who haven't quite got it yet for whatever reason. but 99% of people completely get it. and one of most heart—warming things of this whole experience has been how people have just volunteered and stepped up. all sorts of people. we have a factory in the paris that produces hand sanitiser, which has been donated free. councillors live in the paris and they have been donating their services free. we have a free range 399 services free. we have a free range egg manufacturer. everybody is coming together. everybody is reminding us of an important easter message, perhaps more powerful this year than ever before, that new life calls us into behaving in new ways with each other, to rediscover what it is to have a common purpose and a common life. that's a wonderful thing. and we must always, the queen is rightly said, look for the light in the darkness, no matter how dark the world can get, very dark for lots of people right now, i know that, none of that can put out the light of a single candle. so we liked our candles on easter day, we say thanks be to god and we rightly celebrate and rejoice at the extraordinary thing that happened for us. thank you forjoining us. easter. strange one. we wish you the best. thank you. stay with us, headlines coming up. hello, this is breakfast with sima kotecha and rogerjohnson. here is a summary of this morning's main news: the number of people that have died from coronavirus in the uk is expected to pass 10,000 today. the government is still facing growing pressure to ensure that front line workers have all the personal protective equipment they need. the deaths of five nhs staff have been announced since the health secretary said yesterday 19 workers have died. meanwhile, boris johnson, who's recovering from covid—19, has said he owes his life to staff at the hospital in london where he is being treated. hospital consultants have told the bbc that some key medicines used in intensive care are "in relatively short supply". the royal college of anaesthetists says stocks of medicines in some areas are also "stretched". it said staff were being advised to find alternatives, but reassured patients that they would not be put at risk. easter celebrations will take place across the world today, but without worshippers gathering together. pope francis has been leading the traditional easter vigil at st peter's in rome without a congregation. he will livestream his easter sunday mass, while the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby, will deliver his sermon via webcam from his kitchen table. the queen has delivered an easter message. she urged people to focus on the meaning of easter, of light overcoming the dark, just as we, as a nation, would overcome the pandemic. it's belived to be the first easter address she has made and was recorded in isolation in windsor castle. thousands of people in the uk have lost their lives as a result of coronavirus, including at least 19 nhs workers, but despite tragic circumstances and increasing pressure on intensive care units, hospital staff are trying to send out a positive message. front line doctors and nurses at newcastle's royal victoria infirmary have recorded a special version of the song ‘rise up' in memory of fellow nhs staff that have passed away. let's have a look. music. we're nowjoined by two of the nurses you saw there, katey murphey and abi purdy. thanks booth for talking to us this morning. just so everyone at home knows, he is katie? . fantastic. how did this idea come about, katie?” was driving home one day from work, had my songs on as i normally do and this was on my playlist. the words just really run home. the chorus gets to everything that we are doing at the moment. i changed some of the words of verse, and in work the next day i sang it for some of the girls andi day i sang it for some of the girls and i loved it, they said we should record it. what did you think when she said, let's do a song? it is just katie all over. katie sings everything. i knew it would be katie that would make it up. as soon as i heard it i loved it and i thought we should record it. katie, hi excited for you with the reaction? we are totally gobsmacked. we didn't think it will come to this. we thought if we could get a couple of hundred shares would be fantastic, but would have —— we've had over 250,000 views. whatever your family and friends been saying to you? they must be so proud of the response. yes, i've had messages from people saying how proud they are, and to keep yourself safe and things like that. they are immensely proud of what we are doing. how did you get this all choreographed ? you what we are doing. how did you get this all choreographed? you didn't have long to do it. no, we had 12 minutes. when we had time on our break we all came together and recorded the three recordings in 12 minutes then we just have to choose the best one, really. katie mentioned the reaction you have had. just generally, we are all hugely grateful and in all of the work that you indulge your colleagues on the nhs are doing, but what sort of reaction have you been getting out and about outside the hospital? it's been amazing. we have had so much support from everyone, all members of the public, it has been incredible. clap for carers, we had the ambulance and the police service outside the front of the hospital clapping the other day with all of their lights and sirens on. the support has been amazing. we have had so much food and all sorts of things donated to the ward. everyone is giving whatever they can to support us. katie, briefly, talking about ppe, have you had enough? yes, we have had plenty. we've been well protected since day one of our first patient arriving, we have had measures set up. we prepared for this long before we got our first patient, so everything was in place. we are very lucky that we have been very well protected. yes, the same. we have never had an issue with it, we have always been kept very well informed your protocol is changing, ppe and things like that, we've been really well looked after. you have a ten—year—old daughter, what did she make of it, will she put you forward for britain's got talent?” make of it, will she put you forward for britain's got talent? i think she would love that! the work you do is incredible. everybody in the country is so grateful to you and roger colleagues. thanks so much for coming on and talking to us. i'm sure you could add another couple of million of views to your video online. thank you. microsoft founder bill gates has spent years investing in the work to rid the world of infectious diseases like malaria and ebola. now, he's turning his attention to coronavirus. in an exclusive tv interview, he has been telling breakfast how he believes the only way to beat it is if scientists around the world work together. before we hearfrom him, let's take a look at the work he's been doing. bill gates is the worlds second richest man. it was one of the founders of the computer giant microsoft. at the age of 31 he had become the youngest ever self—made billionaire. he stepped down from running microsoft in 2008 to focus on his charity, the bill and melinda gates foundation. one of the projects they helped launch is this, the coalition for epidermal preparedness innovations. a box to find vaccines for a new infectious diseases. today the greatest risk of global catastrophe doesn't look like this. instead, it looks like this. if anything kills over 10 million people in the next few decades it is most likely to be a highly infectious virus rather than a war. ina ten infectious virus rather than a war. in a ten talk five years ago, he warned that the world wasn't ready foran warned that the world wasn't ready for an epidemic. we need to get going because time is not on our site. in fact, going because time is not on our site. infact, if going because time is not on our site. in fact, if there is one positive thing that can come out of the ebola epidemic it started can serve as an early warning, a wake—up call, to get ready. they are now working on our coronavirus vaccine, but scientists are expected to take up but scientists are expected to take up to 18 months for an effective treatment to be ready. earlier this week, bill gates spoke exclusively to breakfast‘s charlie stayt about the race to create a coronavirus vaccine. bill gates, thank you very much for joining us on bbc breakfast. ijust wonder if i could first ask you how important is it now to have a global response? at saves critical because the tools that are going to reduce deaths, the drugs, that is a global thing to get those out and the thing that will get us back to the world that will get us back to the world that we had before coronavirus is the vaccine and getting that i do all 7 billion people. the efforts to test those, the factories to understand, is it safe and ready to 90, understand, is it safe and ready to go, that is a global problem, so i'm glad that people are coming together to find where is the best work and combine that, the factory will be in a different country than the sciences in. this is the whole world working on probably the most urgent tool that is ever be needed. can i ask you to reflect a little more on the way that world leaders thus far have responded to the crisis? well, there is the periods when i am other health experts were saying that this is the greatest potential downfall the world faced, going back quite a ways with a speech in 2015 and an article about the specific thing. we definitely will look back and wish we had invested more so that we could quickly have all the diagnostics, drugs and vaccines. we underinvested, which was my goal was to get that to happen. we did too sgppy' to get that to happen. we did too sappy, which help with some of the vaccine platforms, but not even 5% will what we could have done. then there is the period when the virus shows up, those first few months. what were the tests prepared? to countries think through getting there i see you and ventilatory capacity up? there will be time for those postmortems. very few countries are going to get an a great for what that's scrambling look like stop now, here we are, we did simulate this, we did practice, so both the health policies and economic policies we find ourselves in uncharted territory.” economic policies we find ourselves in uncharted territory. i know one of the messages you are keen to put out there is that there should be more international cooperation. can you try and give us a sense of what's you think that should look like in practice? well, the coronavirus is going through waves. the first wave was very much china and now there is a wave that almost all the rich countries are experiencing very challenging epidemics. hopefully, by early summer if the right type of isolation policies and testing policies have been implemented, a lot of the countries will be beyond the peak and looking at opening back up. sadly, the developing countries, he has yet don't have a huge number of pieces, are likely to have the worst of it because their ability to isolate, the capacity of the health system is far less than in the rich countries. so the global cooperation is to help those countries, and by helping them make sure the diseases and spreading back to the other countries. then to supercharge the therapeutics and vaccines work which will involve expertise from all over the globe. do you think there is a very real risk, then, as leaders of developed countries try and deal with the situation, the crisis in their own countries, that not enough thoughts will go to those places you mentioned before, that at this stage possibly haven't been thought about enough? well, certainly, so we get a therapeutic that is partially effective, it will be in short supply and what will the allocation be for the vaccine? i do think because the peak in the developing countries is coming later than in the rich countries, countries like european countries, china, the us, we can take some of the mask and ventilator and other things that have been ramped up and make sure that we keep making those things, but then they will be needed, we will have to ship those into developing countries. we have seen china stepping up a bit that way already. when you talk about a therapeutic, you are talking about a vaccine, i'm assuming, is that right? no, i use therapeutic as treating somebody he is ill, so that would be like may be, although the evidence is very, very weak, hyper clocks to... there are antibiotics, all sort of thing is, as a therapeutic accelerator that is looking at thousands of things that you would treat somebody. that is only after you get sick. of course, the vaccine is a protective to stop you getting sick. can i ask you in relation to the vaccine, i know that you have donated a sum of money in relation to that. talk me through what you think are the key elements around developing a successful vaccine? is it money, is a political will? what do you think are the key elements to that? we definitely need to fund the research and the manufacturing and distribution. the distribution piece for developing countries will be where the uk has been super generous on that. the research will need to fund about the ten most promising constructs because we won't know in advance which will prove to be safe and effective. being a factor for older people's immune system, which as we come is a huge challenge. if you amp up come is a huge challenge. if you amp up the vaccine to do that then you can run into safety issues. we are going to have to take something that usually takes five or six years and get it done in 18 months. there is an approach called an hour and a vaccine, that looks quite promising, but we can't count on that, so we will check back four or five of those in four or five companies using a more conventional approach, which unfortunately the schedule for that will probably not be as quick than the platform we have been funding directly and through sappy over the last decade. he will be aware, a lot of people in the uk are asking a very simple and straightforward question, which is when will there be a vaccine. how do you see that? it is a perfect question because we want to get back to the life we had before coronavirus. people are seeing the economic destruction, the psychological stress. this is such an unprecedented, very tough thing to deal with. people like myself and tony fauci are saying 18 months. if everything went perfectly we could do slightly better than that, but there will be a trade—off. there will be less safety testing than we typically would have, so governments will have to decide do they indemnify the companies and really say let's go out with this when we just don't have the time to do what we normally do. so 18 months is about what we would expect. we are doing everything we can. we will write cheques for those factories faster than the governments can stop it definitely shouldn't be money limited. it should be all the best constructs. the head, science limited. from what you're saying, it may be that there needs to be some compromise in some of the safety measures that would normally be expected to create a vaccine because time is so crucial. well, of course if you want to wait and see at that side—effect shows up two years later, that takes two years. whenever you are acting quickly, like during the hiv crisis, they created a quick way of getting drug approval. there is a trade there. in that case it worked super, super well. here, we will i think be able to get some safety indications, but this is a public good, so those trade—offs, the government is working will be involved in a decision to say the regulator says go ahead, even though you haven't taken the normal time period. go ahead, even though you haven't taken the normaltime period. do you think world leaders now are listening anyway that they didn't out of necessity, bearing in mind is that in 2015 g give one of those ten talks and the people go back and listen to it now it was a —— it was extraordinarily close to what is happening now. you were talking about a real risk of a pandemic across the world. did you feel like you were listen to them? no. the investments that could have been done so that diagnostics would have been essentially immediately available, drugs and less than half the time, the vaccine in less than half the time. most of those investments were not made. sappy is the exception to that, but that is about 5% of what could have been done. now we are scrambling and it is taking us much longer to get these pieces together, even though scientists are doing heroic work. unlike the defence budget that prepares us for war where we simulate the problem and we make sure we are good at it, this risk, which i viewed as even greater than the risk of war, there was very, very little preparation. very few of these germ games where you try out and say how do you build up the acu capacity, can you make ventilators, how do you prioritise that diagnostics? that we are just figuring out as we go. was that do you think partly a financial decision, that it wasn't deemed to be worth investing that money into something that may be other people didn't see as clearly as you? it has got to be governments because there is no private—sector incentive for something that is uncertain like this. even when it happens, you have to charge mostly a break even price for things that are helping out with a global crisis like this. people still saw war as something to fund and the less than 10% of that there would have been needed for this. people just didn't organise their government to have that function. i do think now because this has been so dramatic, we weren't ready for this pandemic, but i do think we will be ready for the next pandemic and using the new tools of science, thatis and using the new tools of science, that is very, very doable. well, that is very, very doable. well, that really was my next question. given what you said in 2015 and you are very clear that people didn't listen, are you optimistic that now, and obviously we need to get out of the immediate situation, but there will be a different mindset around the fears around viruses and pandemics? yeah, your speed of reaction is so crucial here because it grows exponentially. if you are there two months earlier, which some countries jumped on this faster than others. they really were checking to see if there was community spread, they got the diagnostic capacity up quickly. we should be able to have diagnostics within a month. we should be able to have therapeutics in more like four months and a vaccine in less than a year, if we are on standby with the right factories, the right science, and we should have rehearsed how we deal with all these shortages with working together, so a really good system for seeing this early and making sure wejump on it before system for seeing this early and making sure we jump on it before the curve gets to a meaningful part of the population, that is achievable. i know he reflected for a moment on this earlier on in the interview, and it is inevitable that here in the uk we ask our politicians questions about the way they have reacted. to degree it is inevitable that that thought process will be something that happens in the future, that we look back on. can you talk us through what you see from what has happened so far?l you talk us through what you see from what has happened so far? a big missing piece is funding the research for these type of vaccines, actually our foundation is the biggest funder of vaccines for infectious disease. there could have been more. sappy is the one thing that did happen there. now, the next phaseis that did happen there. now, the next phase is once we get the case is way down, how much can we open up? now there is an opportunity for governments to see what others are doing, to see which ones do run into a rebound of the disease can really shared these deep understandings, like our young people part of the infection chain? i do think we will deal with this opening up phase in a more collaborative, data driven way than that first scramble where sadly many governments were slow to react. cani many governments were slow to react. can ijust many governments were slow to react. can i just ask you finally on a personal note, one of the things that we have all become very aware of is viruses know no boundaries and eve ryo ne of is viruses know no boundaries and everyone is affected. we are all human beings. i just everyone is affected. we are all human beings. ijust wonder, for you, looking at what is happening around the world, and in a personal sense, with your friends and family, how has it been for you? well, i think everyone's life is completely disrupted. your normal pattern of going to meetings, watch sports events. in my lifetime this is the most dramatic thing, so now we are having to think through how we rise to the occasion, get the scientist working together. i'm doing video meetings, i hardly see people at all. i ask myself every morning did this really happen. even though i worried about it i still find it shocking how tough it is and how ha rd shocking how tough it is and how hard it is going to be to get back to the normal life that we had before. on banknotes, and on that of normal, do you think things will go back to normal, or is that all changed? no, once you have are safe and effective vaccine, get that out to almost all of the people on the planet and build their prefatory systems for the next pandemic, so you can nip it in the bad, we will go back to normal and economies will recover. we have multiple stages to go through in terms of... until we have that, how much can we open up, how do we help the developing countries, but the economy will eventually go back to where it was and innovation will help us not be at such a risk in the years after that. bill gates, very good to speak to you. thank you very much for your time. thank you. that's all from us for today. the andrew marr show is coming up next on bbc one. breakfast will be back tomorrow morning from 6.00am. goodbye. this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in 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