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now a top official says 75 years after hitler, far right terror looms once again over the country. a man has been stabbed inside a mosque near regents park in central london. police have arrested a man at the scene, on suspicion of attempted murder. and the teenager with a phd. mya—rose craig is just 17, and the youngest ever doctor of science, in the uk. hello and welcome — i'm katty kay in washington and clive myrie is in london, mike bloomberg is in utah and probably very happy to have left las vegas behind. his performance in last night's democratic debate was cringe making. the former mayor came across as unprepared and defensive. he didn't look sound orfeel like a winner. the negatives are plenty, over race, women, his tax returns. but a lack of charm, charisma, and sure—footedness on the public stage could be what ultimately sinks him. democrats say their number one priority is choosing a candidate who can beat donald trump in november and bloomberg's weaknesses last night didn't inspire confidence. the blows, upper cuts, jabs, hay—maker body punches, came thick and fast. so, mr mayor, are you willing to release all of those women from those nondisclosure agreements so we can heartheir those nondisclosure agreements so we can hear their side of the story? cheering. we have a very few non—disclosure agreements. cheering. we have a very few non-disclosure agreements. how many is that? let me finish. none of them accuse me of doing anything other than maybe they like a i told. mr bloomberg was not the only candidate getting flack last night. the two hour debate was hands down the most pointed and agressive of any of the nine debates so far. it was a mexican stand—off that ended in mass gunfire. yet their number one enemy, donald trump, came off lightly. i would like to talk about who we are running against. a billionaire who calls women that brides, and horse faced lesbians. and no i am not talking about donald trump, i am talking about mayor bloomberg. are you trying to say that i'm dumb, or are you mocking me here? we are not going to throughout capitalism from other countries tried that, it was called communism and itjust did not work. let's talk about democratic socialism, not communism, mr bloomberg, that's a cheap shot. sophie long was watching last night's debate — she joins us now from las vegas, nevada. good to see you. we know money can't buy you love, it certainly cannot buy you love, it certainly cannot buy you love, it certainly cannot buy you a good debate performance either. no certainly not. i mean i think the pre—debate exchanges promised an explosive evening and they certainly got that. bernie sanders as he would imagine tried to lead the attack on mike bloomberg but really it was elizabeth warren who came up from behind i really we nt who came up from behind i really went for the jugular instantly was the first five minutes of that debate last night. he really saw some attacks. they try to get his message across is that this is traceable, what we needed someone who could beat trump and someone who can deliver when they are in the white house. he talked about his re cord white house. he talked about his record and said he was the candidate to do that, but unsurprisingly it no one on to do that, but unsurprisingly it no one on that stage agreed to. and he's attacked on every part of his record, on his stop and frisk policy notjust the record, on his stop and frisk policy not just the employment of the but the language used to defend it in the language used to defend it in the way his companies have treated women, and probably that was the most uncomfortable cringe worthy moment of the night. joe but it also jumped on the back of that and said it's very simple, that's all you need to do and he was fairly dismissive about that and they said they would stand. i'm not sure with they would stand. i'm not sure with the audience made of that, there were booths at some point and cheers for elizabeth warren potts by attacks of him. they all went after bloomberg with the person who is out front in this group is bernie sanders. did he come away from this feeling pretty happy, imagine, his position was not attacked by the others. yes, i think position was not attacked by the others. yes, ithink you're position was not attacked by the others. yes, i think you're right because in previous debates the person who is subjected to the most attacks is the person leading the polls, bernie sanders went ten the leader last night and did not of course get the attacks that one might normally largely because of the new tender the entered the stage because williams americans the mike bloomberg's face everyday because of the hundreds of millions of dollars he has put into television advertising but this was the first time they saw him on a live television debate stage and that's really what everyone was watching for. a lot of the focus that would have been bernie sanders last night really all went to mike bloomberg. i think bernie sanders would have come out of that pretty happily. what bloomberg's campaign is seen today they fairly unphased about it. he's been campaigning with in utah and joke with people saying how was your night? i think now of course all eyes are on night? i think now of course all eyes are on super tuesday. bloomberg's name is not on the ballot he re bloomberg's name is not on the ballot here in nevada on saturday at north and south carolina. super tuesday of chris wood more than 14 states will vote and whether1300 delegates states will vote and whether 1300 delegates up for states will vote and whether1300 delegates up for grabs. all eyes that now. so feet long there for us in las vegas. —— sophie. let's bring in democratic strategist, joel payne. he joins us now from new york. bloomberg is into the race and done his debate. where does the democratic party stand right now in terms of the capacity to choose a nominee for the presidency who can beat donald trump?|j nominee for the presidency who can beat donald trump? i think the race as it stands right now is bernie sanders and pete are ahead on delegates and they expect stander to show pretty well in nevada and probably when it becomes a question of whether warren and biden can put up of whether warren and biden can put upa good of whether warren and biden can put up a good enough fight in nevada with a second or third place showing and south carolina with a wind to really make this a fight between the current competitors. at the current competitors because there is one competitors because there is one competitor of the slimming barge that has not been contesting any of these first four states which is mike bloomberg. there's almost the bloomberg phase of the race that starts on super tuesday. we got a preview of that last night and i think bloomberg got a preview of how these fellow candidates are going to be treating him as he becomes more ofa be treating him as he becomes more of a centre of everyone's focus. clive my re here in london. he did not do very well last night it's clear, everyone can see that, but can he pull it out of the bag, do you think? come super tuesday considering he is not running in nevada or south carolina ? considering he is not running in nevada or south carolina? is a great point of the important point is early voting has begun a lot of states in a place like california over a states in a place like california over a million ballots have been cast. in nevada where he's not on the ballot more than two thirds of vote rs have the ballot more than two thirds of voters have already voted for early voting in places like north carolina and virginia. i get a family member who is already voted in north carolina to the debate last night will not change how they are going to vote. bloomberg certainly benefits from that phenomenon whether or not long—term through la st whether or not long—term through last night's debate in the themes that emerged last night was that will hurt them long—term. time will tell and what's interesting is that bloomberg is almost the perfect foil for this with warren and bernie sanders. in his person he is really the manifestation of everything that they are fighting against in this campaign. a corporate influence, money and politics being able to buy an election. bloomberg is trying to disprove that thesis. let me put a theory to you that i heard from a democrat last night that we go into super tuesday partly because of early voting, partly because he is doing so well in the polls, bernie sanders does very well in california basically wraps up the nomination because he get so many delegates on super tuesday and bernie sanders as this democrat is saying can never win the general election so not only isa win the general election so not only is a overcome of the election is over on super tuesday as well. democrats who say bernie sanders cannot win the election are about as credible as republicans who four years ago said donald trump could never win the election. the parties are realigning and are changing. anyone to suggest that they know how vote rs anyone to suggest that they know how voters are going to react to bernie sanders at the top of a ticket in nine months are probably running a fools errand. it's certainly a different race that democrats will have to run if bernie sanders is the standard— bearer of the party have to run if bernie sanders is the standard—bearer of the party but that doesn't mean they can't win. donald trump would have had the same criticisms four years ago so i think democrats would be smart to look at the lessons of the last five years and try to not overreact to what they assume the electorate is feeling right now. super-smart point, thank you very much for joining us. which is actually what other previous nominee was saying to me last night as well. four years ago no one thought donald trump was going to win all the establishment thought hillary clinton had this in the bag, let's not assume the rules are the same as they have been in the past. and by the way i was messaging with somebody that's messed advising michael bloomberg and admitted it was a bad debate but did not love that, almost wish he had not been on the stage, but he said mike can buy his way out of this with more tv ads. this was an experiment in debating, his strategy is tv ads blanketing the airways and he has time between now and super tuesday to run a lot more of those. he has spent 300 million or something and some suggest he could spend 2 billion, the whole democratic party last time spent 1 billion. money will definitely keep them in the race. there's no question about that but look at what has happened to far left candidates running in office around the world. jeremy corbyn here did not do too well. and they are watching this too. 20 million americans watch that debate and 100 plus million americans watch the super bowl. mike bloomberg had an ads running in the super bowl. for those watching last night our visits. they are votes, yes. angela merkel is condemning the "poison" of racism after a suspected far right attack in the town hanau. nine people were killed — they all had migrant backgrounds. the suspect is a 43 year old german man — who was police found dead in his home — along with his mother, who, they believe, had been murdered too. hanau is a large town about 25 kilometres east of frankfurt. at around 10pm on wednesday night the gunman opened fire at two shisha bars. first at the midnight shisha bar then he moved to the arena bar and cafe in the kesselstadt neighbourhood. the suspect has been named by local media as tobias r. the aftermath of what now looks to have been a premeditated racist attack in the quiet german town of hanau. he suspected gunmen public ‘s ta rg ett, hanau. he suspected gunmen public ‘s ta rgett, two hanau. he suspected gunmen public ‘s targett, two sheets cafes hanau. he suspected gunmen public ‘s ta rgett, two sheets cafes for smoking scented tobacco and popular with the turkish and kurdish communities. it was around ten o'clock when they say the attacker started shooting outside of those inside the midnight bar and he fled by car, drove a mile and a half and shot at those inside the arena bar. nine people were killed, five victims were of turkish origin. i have described the panic during the attack. i'm shocked now, i'm shocked. everybody ran on the right and left, i see much panic, panic, panic. please state the group german named as a 43—year—old worker to kill his mother and then himself. investigators are scrutinising his websites which contain the written ma nifesto websites which contain the written manifesto reported to have espoused the policing of public views and paints a picture of a man with serious mental health issues. he talks of the state trying to get into his brain. there are big questions now are how german authorities can stop right wing extremism and the rising number of attacks. in the past year there's been an assassination of a german politician and an attack on a synagogue in the east of the country and three days ago german police said he dismantled a right wing extremist cell and now this incident. the german chancellor and a summit in brussels today spoke of the poison of hatred and poison of racism infecting german society. the local mp here told me of existing tensions here in the town and said that extremism was an issue she claimed to be made to the growth of populism. you have to put stop signs there and really set redlines. and be far more strict with hate speech. several ethnic minority families living here said they are too afraid to go out tonight worried that a threat may still exist. but many people are gathering to the flowers and tributes to those that have lost their lives. of the organisation "turkish community in germany" in the state of hesse where the attack happened. i understand you went to or have been to one of the bars that was attacked last night. yes that is the case and we are deeply shocked and saddened by the terrorist attacks which occurred. there's dozens of protests and vigils going on the country as we speak. this is not a mere isolated incident committed by some alone troubled 40 something —year—old gunman. let's call a spade a spade. this is an act of far right terrorism nurtured by what some german politicians today have called a toxic social climate within the country. this is terrorism produced by the ideological hotbeds of identity arianism, is on the phobia and anti—semitism and racism. this is christchurch all over again. as the german government, in your opinion been slow to fess up to the idea that it has a far right problem in germany? this is the third major act of right wing terrorism in the la st act of right wing terrorism in the last couple of months in the german state here alone. there were only the ones that have claimed lives. just recently as you mentioned 12 individuals were arrested for planting and forming a far right terrorism network planning to attack politicians, asylum—seekers, dues and muslims. the media response in germany shipped up to be rather disproportionate. domestic intelligence services, they have identified close to 33,000 violent extremists, that is a third higher compared to 2018. so it was only after the attacks that you also mentioned, the synagogue, the attack on the synagogue that officials have admitted measures by which right—wing extremists are because of at the same way as religiously motivated extremists. years after other things. we do appreciate the service of the federal government and law enforcement, we have many friends there but still we think that there needs to be a major recalibration of counterterrorism strategies within this country.“ there the suggestion that the ideas that were the province of the far right and perhaps out inside the space and on the fringes of society are now becoming more mainstream? definitely. this is due to certain outlets and certain actors within the political and social discourse that are trying to frame this very discourse, and by framing this discourse, and by framing this discourse in a certain way certain people feel themselves to be more represented within certain spectrums of society. i just represented within certain spectrums of society. ijust talked about identity arianism, i talked about certain actors that do not overtly appear to attack certain groups orcs demonise certain religions, or certain people but do this subtly answer a subtle demeanour you can kind of strength in the position of these people. thank you very much indeed. we could talk to cynthia miller interest and she runs the lab at the american university in washington and ridgely published a book about far right youth culture in germany called the extreme mainstream. thanks so much for being with us, we have just heard there is the third far right attack and less than a year including an attack on a synagogue. by the authorities taking far right terrorist activities as seriously as they may be taking islamist activities as well? first launch is that my thoughts and to put these go out to all the victims and the communities affected for this is a terrible time and my thoughts are with them. the authorities in germany have been taking this much more seriously than other countries, so that's one thing i think from the outside looking in toa i think from the outside looking in to a country like germany where they have added 600 positions in the last year and they've been able to monitor right—wing extremists in a way that no other country can do that's an enviable head of infrastructure to monitor and surveilled, but the problem is monitoring and surveillance as a band—aid solution and always too little too late by the time you have the kind of radicalisation that we see happening right now. he was suggesting that there was a low—level complicity in the country asa low—level complicity in the country as a whole. people are allowed to harbour racist attitudes without much come back and that's what allows this much more extreme element to thrive. do you agree with that, is germany turning a blind eye to low—level racism ? that, is germany turning a blind eye to low-level racism? i would not plant only to germany in this regard but i think that across europe and north america for sure we have a problem right now with extremist rhetoric, is on the phobia rhetoric and anti—semitic rhetoric and racist ideas becoming normalised and mainstream. we have seen the return of race science and eugenics ideas which are expressed in these manifestos as well. your singing normalisation of those ideas and the mainstreaming of them into political rhetoric and to discourse that in a way was unimaginable even a decade ago, and that means that the landscape is kind of saturated with the more toxic and racist type of idea. thank you very much indeed for joining us us from washington. a man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after a stabbing at a mosque in london's regents park this afternoon. an elderly man, has been taken to hospital and his injuries are not thought to be life threatening. scotland yard says it is not treating the incident as terror related. dan johnson reports. these are the moments that followed a stabbing during afternoon prayers. the man in red was held by police after he allegedly pulled a kitchen knife and used it to attack the man who leads the call to prayer here. he was arrested on suspicion of attempted murder. he was praying and on the ground he had the knife and we heard screaming. this is not being treated as a terrorist incident, but understandably there is deep concern. this individual has been visiting the mask over the last six months. they had no intelligence to indicate that he was a threat. this does not sound like a random attack, it is not somebody coming off the street, it is somebody who is known to worshippers? some people felt he was a bit vulnerable in the past. he had issues. this is london's central mosque, a major building close to regent's park. the victim is in his 705, a well—known, respected figure, who has been an importer presents here for many years. workers gave first aid and emergency response was quick. he has been stabbed in his neck. it would have been worse if it were not for the worshippers who stopped the guy and apprehended him. i called the ambulance and they came within a matter of minutes. the police were here straightaway, within a few minutes. the police are here in large numbers, trying to reassure a community in shock and to work out what prompted an attack that saw violence and injury interrupted a peaceful act of prayer. roger stone — a long—time ally of donald trump — has been sentenced to over three years in prison for his role in the mueller investigation. he was found guilty of tampering with a witness, lying to congress and obstructing the houses investigation into whether the trump campaign conspired with russia in the 2016 election. the sentencing became intensely political after president trump weighed in on twitter, slamming prosecutors for recommending jail time of up to nine years. ever colourful, mr stone was far from cowed as he left the courthouse moments ago, still a free man. he will appeal this result. handing down sentence, thejudge was scathing about mr stone's conduct. "the truth still matters," judge berman jackson said. "roger stone's insistence that it doesn't, his belligerence, let's bring in a former adviser to george w bush, ron christie. sir ron of san francisco i'm going to call you, because your services to call you, because your services to the bbc deserve a gong. it's good to the bbc deserve a gong. it's good to see you. good to see you, my friend. the prosecutors wanted nine yea rs, friend. the prosecutors wanted nine years, he gets just over three. friend. the prosecutors wanted nine years, he getsjust over three. does that feel like to you? good evening to you, clive. that's a well within the federal sentencing guidelines cover the original prosecution effort to send to think that seven to nine years was excessive and i think if his name was roger brown and not roger stone was said associated with donald trump i think that the prosecutors would have had a far more lenient sentence, so i think what we are looking at in america today is someone who is associated with the president and someone who was a friend of the president and someone who is now going to go to jail for lying to congress before lying to obstruct a federal probe and investigation in a rightly deserved sentence. also looking at something else, aren't we and that is in this context we're looking what has become a great political environment rounding sentencing. and thejudge in this case seemed to be speaking almost to the justice department, case seemed to be speaking almost to thejustice department, the president and to anyone who would listen outside saying this has to be about justice, this has listen outside saying this has to be aboutjustice, this has to be about the rules come the rules still stand, justice cannot be corrected. is there a genuine fear in the united states at the moment that that line between politics and justice is being blurred?” that line between politics and justice is being blurred? i don't think so but it was certainly a shot across the bow. the president of the united states does himself no favour for being the chief law enforcement officer to opine on his favourite social media of choice, twitter of course in 280 characters or less about ongoing federal prosecutions. i think with the judge was trying to say here is enough already. we have a system where everyone is judged and deemed equal under the law innocent until proven guilty. and the president should not weigh in and not put his finger on the scales of justice. and not put his finger on the scales ofjustice. replay, ron, is he going to stop on twitter? no. 0k, ofjustice. replay, ron, is he going to stop on twitter? no. ok, that's what i want to cover the i—word answer. you keep your knighthood. mike dropped. this is beyond 100 days from the bbc. coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news, it's the 120th birthday of the uk labour party, but is it happy one? we'll be looking at the current state of the party, and how it might find a path back to power. and the man you can thank for the much loved copy—and—paste function dies at the age of 74. a look back at the legacy he leaves behind, that's still to come. good evening. it has been another day of wet weather across many parts. benson sweeping use the company but the company possibly squally gusty winds and that was the scene as a band of rain with a strong wind to pass across and six, you can see it here on the radar picture is that rain bands put its way through its ushered in some colder air and some wintry showers which will continue for a time particularly across northern areas prior to the early hours of friday and as we moved to the first pass of the day we will see cloud gathering across northern ireland west of scotland, topics of rain which will start to turn up over high grounds, to purchase by the end of the night starting to creep upwards. some milderair starting to creep upwards. some milder air working its way in and four to 7 degrees. it's about where we will be through the early part of friday. as a frontal system squashes and we will see a piece of rain in other areas particularly the very wet across questions counties in northern ireland in northwest england, so that rain likely to set in across the hills of north wells again. for the south largely drove some sunny spells into the east of high ground up at southeast scotland it's very strong and gusty winds. because of the class disruption, it's a windy day generally in a mild one as well. temperatures of ten, 11 or 12 degrees. as we get on it to saturday all this rain is likely to push its way southwards but that rain likely to linger for a time across southern most parts of england the far south of wales and north of that we will see some sunny spells but also some showers give us no showers or high ground in scotla nd no showers or high ground in scotland to give it of snow in places and temperatures ranging from 6 degrees there in glasgow to 13 in norwich and london. through saturday night this is what to watch because it is likely to be another dose of rainfor it is likely to be another dose of rain for some, it is likely to be another dose of rainforsome, particularly it is likely to be another dose of rain for some, particularly across england and wales that she clear on sunday the some dry weather and smells of sunshine and just the odd shower, height of seven to ii degrees. a quieter interlude does not want to last long because they moved out of sunday and into monday base putting a deep area of the pressure to pass northwest of scotla nd pressure to pass northwest of scotland and very strong winds to be a gale select with the far north and more outbreaks of rain. not great news for places where we still have severe weather warnings. of check latest flood warnings and the benefits weather warnings on the bbc weather website. you're watching beyond 100 days with me katty kay in washington, clive myrie is in london. our top stories. democratic candidates vying to take on president trump in 2020 have gone head to head, in their punchiest debate yet. democratic candidates vying to take on president trump in 2020 have gone head to head, in their punchiest debate yet. as the labour party looks to celebrate its 120th birthday, its most successful modern leader has some stong words of warning about its future. also on the programme... you probably use it every day — the man who invented cut and paste for computers, larry tesler, has died. taking the night bus — the homeless people in california sleeping on board because there's nowhere else to go. the british labour party has a birthday this month. it's120 years old. whether it has much to celebrate is a different issue. its last three candidates for prime minister all failed to win a general election. and jeremy corbyn suffered a humiliating defeat in december. today tony blair, the most recent labour leader to enjoy success in the polls, had some tough love for party. he didn't endorse any of the current candidates for the leadership but he did critique labour's strategy in the last election. we went into the election with a leader with a —40% net approval rating on political terrain chosen by our opponents with a manifesto promising the earth, but from a planet other than earth, and a campaign which substituted a narcissistic belief in our righteousness for professionalism. so, here we are. back where we were before. and before that, and before that. and the public is watching the current leadership contest. i know it's not big news because that belongs to government. because governments do things and oppositions only say things. but the public have half an ear cocked. they're waiting to see if we get it. let's speak now to dame louise ellman, who resigned as a labour mp in october after 22 years, and lord charlie falconer, formerjustice secretary and lord chancellor under tony blair. good to see you both, thanks for being with us. dame louise if i could talk to you first, the fact of the matter is tony blair is saying that the world has changed but the labour party hasn't changed. i think tony blair is right except to say the labour party did change, it became very extreme, it has done entirely unelectable leader, and it communicated with its members extremist members believing that the membership equated with the general public. so whatever policies are put forward and some were good and some we re forward and some were good and some were bad, the public simply did not believe labour party was capable of delivering any and saw it as a nasty unpleasant place. i think at the last general election in the four yea rs before last general election in the four years before that for the labour party, they just got years before that for the labour party, theyjust got it wrong. it has to recognise it was completely wrong, not just the has to recognise it was completely wrong, notjust the way it was delivered, it was the way the party developed as a very unpleasant extremist place with a leader in the public somebody did not want to see as prime minister. charlie faulkner, david bonk at a former labour secretary for the labour party said the party is always fighting the previous election that it simply cannot adapt in the way that the conservatives have been able to adapt to global changes and changes at home right threat their history. iagree. i at home right threat their history. i agree. i don't think we were fighting the election before in 2019, we were fighting about five elections before and 2019. and i think we got ourselves incredibly cut off from the public i think for two main reasons. they did not like what we were like. we had become narrow in the sense that we were a quite hard left ideological party, and we were morally sneering at the public. that was one reason we went wrong because the public did not like what we become. and separately and secondly we had nothing to say about the future. all we were saying about the future. all we were saying about the future was well we would have to rethink the question about whether we leave the european union, and that was something the public had already decided upon to a very large extent. so, we were very unpleasant, and we had nothing to say about the future. so you two are clearly really cheerful about the state of your party. you are making tony blair signed positively complementary today! let me put it to you a different way dame louise that this is not the moment and put a different way dame louise that this is not the mum input of parties where people went from the centre. we are seeing mirrors of what you have been going through in the uk here in the democratic primary process , here in the democratic primary process, and all of the energy is with the candidate who is on the left of the democratic party. maybe the time for centrism is not now.|j think whatever you call it, it is about being relevant to how people see the world. and having a party with a leader who people want to see in power and will be able to deliver things that will make their life different. i don't think they want an unpleasant party that turns in on itself that drives people out and full of unpleasa ntness, extremism, racism. that's not the kind of party people want to see and the party is just talking to itself and will not get very far in getting the support of the general public. until the labour party recognises this, nothing is going to change. it might have recognised this. it all happens —— depends what happens first in the leadership election and then depending on who is elected, what that leader does and whoever is elected leader has to notjust say they're going to change things, they must be what to do it and look at the party machinery and the people who have been pulling the strings behind the scenes and change the whole system so that the party becomes selectable again. and people need a proper labour party that will once again address the needs of the people and if it will look back to the days when tony blair became prime minister after 18 years of tory rule, it really was such a joyous day in those years. the health service was boosted, education was boosted, peace was made with northern ireland, pensioner poverty was largely a dress. tv licences introduced which are about to be abolished. it was a different world, wants more to do and new challenges but the labour party must relate to the public and not look inward to itself and drive out the members who do not agree with the leadership. board charlie when you look at the leadership contest at the moment, do you see somebody who could revive that positivity for the labour party get back into office and keep labour in office for multiple elections?” think keir starmer or lisa nandy. i think keir starmer or lisa nandy. i think the promo about rebecca long babyis think the promo about rebecca long baby is she is looking back to the corbyn regime within the labour party that has been very strongly repudiated by the public for the reasons i've indicated. whether or not lisa or keir starmer will be able to do it i think depends on two things. one they have got to be able to care —— change the character of the party that it is now in order to make it acceptable to a much wider group of people. this is a party that louise ellman who you are speaking to as had to leave because of its anti—semitism. we haven't got much chance of persuading the public unless we can persuade decent people like louise ellman to come back into the party. changing the character of the party. changing the character of the party. changing the character of the party first of all has to happen. and then secondly and separately, we have got to have something to say about what we offer for the future and that involves not saying "let's see if we can ameliorate the damage from leaving the european union. " ameliorate the damage from leaving the european union." it is about what is our vision for the future if that gives people genuine hope that we as that gives people genuine hope that weasa that gives people genuine hope that we as a party that govern this country can make things better. and neither of those things are clearly envisioned in this leadership contest at the moment. thank you, both of you. lord falconer, dame louise ellman, thank you forjoining the programme. maybe you should watch a ask him to enter yourself up. love actually. love actually, thatis up. love actually. love actually, that is our offering free this evening. you've probably never heard of larry tesler. we certainly hadn't. but we're willing to bet that every single day you do something that he invented — the seemingly simple computer action of cut and paste. joining the programme. maybe you should watch and ask him to enter yourself up. love actually. love actually, that is offering free this evening. mr tesler was working for xerox in the 19705 when he developed the commands to cut, copy and paste. he died this week. larry took his inspiration from old methods of editing where people would physically cut portions of printed text and glue them elsewhere — and in so doing he made computers accessible to the masses. this is how xerox reacted to news of his death, saying, it didn't make him a household name, but tributes have been paid to larry tesler online, including. and of course, a lot of people have been cutting and pasting their thoughts. let's get more from jason fitzpatrick from the centre for computing history in cambridge. good to see you and thanks for being with us. how love actually. love actually, that is offering free this evening. good to see you and thanks for being with us. how important was this innovation from mr tesler? incredibly important. computers are there to serve us and help us through our days. simple things like that as much as they might be quite small or huge when it comes to what we achieve using computers.” small or huge when it comes to what we achieve using computers. i am going to admit i use it the whole time whether i am writing scripts for this programme, writing books, i doa for this programme, writing books, i do a lot of copying and pasting. how difficult it seems to be simple. how difficult it seems to be simple. how difficult a computer programme was it back in the 19705 to write? difficult a computer programme was it back in the 1970s to write?m was not easy. let's put it that way. there is two sides to this. there is the programming side and yes it was in some ways a fairly complex task to do. there is lots of intricacies to do. there is lots of intricacies to what you are copying and where you want to paste it. but there is also the user interface, the way these things are done and i think thatis these things are done and i think that is an important side to look at. mary was one of those people that make computers much easier for people to use. —— larry. at the museum we talk about these computers but really it is about people. understanding how computers can enrich our lives. larry was one of the few that understood that simple things like that could completely revolutionise the way we do things. do you think it is change the way we write, the way that an author might compile, maybe katty can answer this question, if you're throwing down your thoughts for chapter one and your thoughts for chapter one and you are not quite sure what order they're going to be in or whatever, does it change the way you sort of relate to that page because you know you can shift things around later on? i think it does do. and i think ina on? i think it does do. and i think in a positive way, it gives you the ability to try different things if you are just ability to try different things if you arejust a ability to try different things if you are just a typewriter and brought out a sentence or paragraph, you mightjust brought out a sentence or paragraph, you might just leave it brought out a sentence or paragraph, you mightjust leave it as it is. but with copy and paste, you can copy that, paste it somewhere else in the document, try again, have a look and see what the differences are, work out which ones work best. i think these things are to the benefit of any author or anybody that's writing. and allows you to try different things without having to continually type at the same thing again and again. totally agree. jason fitzpatrick, thank you very much forjoining us. it gets rid of writers block, writing down knowing you can move it. larry tesler got the idea from watching people literally cutting and pasting newspapers. isn't that great? he saw it and he realised what he could do. 151,000 people in california are homeless. the numbers are rising so fast in the state that yesterday, the governor, devoted an annual speech to that single issue — calling homelessness in california a disgrace. it's particularly striking because the state has some of america's wealthiest neighbourhoods. but homes in areas like silicon valley are simply unaffordable for people with little money. and so the homeless find sleep and shelter where they can like on the valley's number 22 night bus. the bbc‘s sarah svoboda caught a ride. and the dead of night, people queue. they are here not for the ride but for the refuge. this is the only all—night bus that runs throughout the silicon valley. it is known as the silicon valley. it is known as the motel 22. the route passes some of the world's most valuable companies. companies that have made this a top earning region. if it we re this a top earning region. if it were a country, the silicon valley would be the second richest in the world. it is also now one of the most expensive places to live in the united states. it comfortable wife ona united states. it comfortable wife on a 6—figure salary can be difficult. and anything less? is next to impossible. by 2am, the bus isa next to impossible. by 2am, the bus is a shelter on wheels. you're going to sit by him? no? ok. i don't want to sit by him? no? ok. i don't want to leave them out there. they don't have anywhere to go. i try to be friendly and treat everybody like a human. but it is not only those in the back that are struggling. shannon, the driver, was born and raised in this area. she has since been priced out. even she at times has had to sleep in her car.” been priced out. even she at times has had to sleep in her car. i feel a little defeated because i am working my tail off out here and we don't make enough money to live out here but we make too much money to get some type of assistance. nancy is 73 years old. she has been writing this bus for the last nine months. for her, it is a lifeline. what are you doing here on the 22 bus tonight? writing from one place to another place that night. some place to stay, someplace to be. they have a roof over one head and you are safe. and if you weren't here tonight, where would you be? oh, i would hate to think. i guess walking the streets. i know i would be walking the streets. with four times as many homeless as sheltered beds in the valley, these writers simply have nowhere else to go. more people are also now living along the bus route in their cars, in camera triggers, and in tents. route in their cars, in camera triggers. and in tents. so route in their cars, in camera triggers, and in tents. so in the very place that is leading the world and cutting edge tech knowledge he, even the homeless must innovate to survive. it is just so heartbreaking. sanjose is another city in california where homelessness is a major issue — the number of rough sleepers has risen 42% in just two years. joining us now to discuss what's being done is mayor sam liccardo. thank you so much forjoining us. what has been happening in your city in sanjose what has been happening in your city in san jose that what has been happening in your city in sanjose that is because this explosion and homelessness in the last couple of years? the largest city in silicon valley and what is happening throughout the valley and throughout the state is certainly happening here only at a magnitude that we don't see any very many other places. we know that housing costs are rising very rapidly. we have an economy that is increasingly dividing the haves from the have—nots. technological skills as well, rewarding those who are without the skills are struggling mightily so we are doing everything we can to try to help more folks stay on board and stay housed and right now we simply do not have the local resources to scale. clive myrie here in london. clearly affordability is a big issue here. but if the market forces are taking ca re of but if the market forces are taking care of house prices and property prices, then there is regular that you can do, is? certainly, we know we are not to suddenly become and enable thousands of homeless people to become homeowners but what we can do is build much more housing and make sure it is rent restriction and enable more folks to get in that housing and do more to get to families before they get that notice of eviction to ensure that we can keep them house often with a much smaller investment that avoids a lot of human misery. so we are doing everything we can to find local resources . everything we can to find local resources. a couple of years ago in the county we got nearly $1 billion us and passed a bond that we were using to build thousands of affordable units and we will be going back to the voters in sanjose asking to approve another tax measure that would generate another $70 million. all of these dollars putting into prevention and housing. you have obviously a lot of wealthy residents in your city in sanjose. they must see the homelessness around the city. what is their attitude to it? how much support are you getting from wealthy members of the community to try and address a problem which in a way, an increase in wealth in sanjose of wealth has caused? it is a common phenomenon in us cities like sanjose although we area us cities like sanjose although we are a city of moyer than 1 million people, the wealthiest residents in silicon valley within the suburbs around us outside our borders. the good news is we are starting to get these tech companies engaged and this challenge is starting with cisco which is a little competent —— will company who stepped out with a 50 million dark commitment and now we are seeing billion—dollar commitments from companies like google, facebook, and apple. that is going to help but ultimately we need a steady source of resources from state and federal government if we are going to be able to get traction. i do not stand alone in this. where cities like la, seattle, san francisco are all struggling with these challenges and we simply need the resources to tackle the challenge. mayor sam liccardo of san jose. thank you forjoining us. a bit of breaking news for you to bring to viewers. the prime minister borisjohnson has been speaking to the president donald trump in a phone call and we have got this read out from downing street, the prime minister and president trump spoke this evening and discuss a range of bilateral and international issues. the leaders reiterated their commitment to the us-uk reiterated their commitment to the us — uk relationship and before to seeing each other at the g7 summit in the united states injune. i don't suppose huawei came up. who knows. perhaps that phone call went better than the last one. this is beyond 100 days. still to come... the remarkable story about how six missing sugar were found after a time for ballclub roma featured their names and photos alongside their names and photos alongside their usual transfer announcements. dame julie walters has revealed she's had treatment for stage three bowel cancer. the actor, who's 69, had surgery and chemotherapy following the diagnosis 18 months ago, and has now been given the all—clear. but the star of mama mia, and educating rita, and billy elliot says her latest film, the secret garden, could possibly be her last one, although she is not certain to retire. she's been speaking to the bbc‘s victoria derbyshire. how are you? i'm really well. look at you, you look fab. look at you. julie walters is one of our greatest actors, having been on our screens for more than 40 years. she has won countless awards and is regarded as a national treasure. but in 2018, her life stopped in its tracks. how have you been? very well now but obviously 18 months ago, wasn't so good. when i was diagnosed with bowel cancer, stage three. two primary tumours in my large intestine. your immediate reaction was... shock. first of all, shock. and i thought, right, and then you hold onto the positive which is that he said, we can fix this. perhaps your perspective on acting has changed. oh, my god. my perspective towards acting has completely changed. so, could the secret garden be your last film? it's possible, yeah. it's possible. but, you know, something might come up, but i think i would approach it in a very different... it would have to be something i really engaged with. and that didn't have a killing schedule. and that... i'm not saying i'll never act again, but it has made me feel i don't want to do it at the moment, i don't think i can go back to... certainly not six days a week, five days a week, five in the morning until seven o'clock at night. with a big part and having to learn lines and the stress of it. italian football club roma are considered trailblazers when it comes to their social media campaigns — especially when they announce new player signings. but this summer, they went for a more poignant approach, by featuring photos of missing children alongside their transfer announcements. remarkably, six children highlighted in their videos have been found. alistair magowan reports. peter boxell has been searching for his missing teenage son for 32 years. my son, lee, absolutely loved football. he was a great supporter of sutton united football club. sadly, in 1988, september, lee was really keen to go and see a football match at the start of the season. and he went with a friend to sutton. his friend changed his mind and went home. sadly, he didn't come home. italian club roma got involved by posting videos of missing children when they announced recent transfer signings. peter's son was one of those featured and, although it didn't help find lee, six children pictured in the videos were found, including three from london. raising awareness of missing people is a source of great pride to the players here at their rome training base. so, what was your reaction when you sort of first heard that one of the kids featured in your video had been found? yeah, i think it was a really sort of powerful moment for me. obviously, it is an amazing thing for the family but i feel like, evenjust being a small part of it and helping... being a father now, i think not knowing where your child is i think is one of the most toughest things to have to deal with in life. the inspiration behind the idea came from a song by soul asylum in the early 19905. the video for their hit runaway train showed missing children from across europe and america. # runaway train never going back... roma decided on a similar campaign and have now shown 132 children from 12 different countries. i think we are looking at a campaign on may 25th, which is international missing child day, when we try and unite the football world. we feel if man united and liverpool and barcelona and bayern munich, if all these clubs come together, you know, the impact we could have could be incredible. it is absolutely amazing. i mean, even if one child is reunited, it is so worthwhile doing and ijust hope that other clubs will follow suit and do the same thing. great way to use their social media outreach. what were you doing at 17? hanging out with your mates — causing your parents a headache or two? mya rose craig mightjust put us all to shame. yep, she'sjust been awarded a doctor of science degree from the university of bristol, and is thought to be the uk's youngest recipient of the award. mya set up an organisation called black2nature — which helps get more children from ethnic minority backgrounds, into conservation. i was feeling good about my productivity until i saw that story. i was feeling maybe i was doing ok. the youth of today way ahead of us. it's tight macro private nice to have you with us. thanks forjoining us. we will see you next week. —— quiet thanks for being with us. good evening, it has been another day of wet weather across many parts of the uk. a band of rain sweeping eastwards accompanied by really squally gusty winds, and that was the scene as that band of rain with those strong winds passed across essex. you can see it here on the radar picture as that rain band has cleared its way through, it's ushered in some colder air and some wintry showers which will continue for a time particularly across northern areas drier through the early hours of friday further south. and then as we move into the first part of the day, we will see cloud gathering across northern ireland and western scotland, some outbreaks of rain which will start to turn heavy again up over high grounds. temperatures by the end of the night actually starting to creep up with some milder air working its late in — 4—7 degrees is about where we will be through the early part of friday. so, as our frontal system squashes in, we are going to see some outbreaks of heavy rain in northern areas particularly very wet across western counties of northern ireland, southern and western parts of scotland, north—west england, some of that rain likely to set in across the hills of north wales as well. the further south you are, largely dry with some sunny spells. the east in higher ground, the pennines up into southeast scotland, very strong and gusty winds gusting up to 50—60 mph. that could cause some localised disruption. it is a windy day generally though, and a mild one as well. temperatures of ten, 11, or 12 degrees. now, as we get on into saturday, all this rain is likely to push its way southwards. that rain likely to linger for a time across southern parts of england, parts of south wales to the north, that will see some sunny spells but also some showers. snow showers in higher ground in scotland which will give quite an accumaltion of snow actually in places, and temperatures ranging from 6 degrees there in glasgow to 13 in norwich and in london. now, through saturday night, this is one to watch for those flood—affected areas because there is likely to be another dose of rain for some. i think particularly across england and wales, that should clear on sunday to the east some dry weather spells and sunshine, just the odd shower. highs of 7—11 degrees. that quieter interlude will not last long because as you move out of sunday and into monday, we are expecting a deep area of low pressure to pass the north—west of scotland. some very strong winds, severe gales are likely in the far north, and more outbreaks of rain. not great news for places where we still have severe flood warnings in force. you can always check the latest flood warnings and the met office weather warnings on the bbc weather website. this is bbc news. i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines at eight. a suspected far—right gunman kills nine people in two shootings. in shisha bars in germany. the victims were all immigrants police say they're not treating a stabbing at a london mosque as terror—related. officers have arrested a man on suspicion of attempted murder. it would've been life—threatening if it wasn't for the worshipers who help stop the guy and apprehend him. roger stone, long—time adviser and ally to president trump is sentenced to 40 months in jail for his role in the mueller probe. towns underwater along the river severn, but more rain is forecast for northern parts of the uk. the challenges of a school run — the teenager testing the law

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