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Is involved in such a decision. It beggers belief, really. Good morning. Its february 24th. Welcome to bbc Newsroom Live. The conservatives have labelled their victory in the copeland by election a truly historic event. They took the seat from labour by more than two thousand votes The First Time a Governing Party has won a seat from another party in a by election for 35 years. The area has had a labour mp since the 1930s. For labour, the Shadow Chancellor John Mcconnell called the result disappointing. The party did hold on to the seat of stoke on Trent Central, in the other parliamentary by election result declared overnight. Labour finished two and a half thousand votes ahead of ukip leader paul nuttall. In the last hour the Labour Leader, Jeremy Corbyn has been giving his reaction to the by elections results. After his speech, he is taking questions now. Is defeated in copeland a disaster for the labour party . Its a disappointment. Im very sad about it. We campaign to win it back, to deliverfor the people of copeland the Health Service they need and deserve. Theresa may has given no guarantees about West Cumberland hospital. We can and will. That is our mission as a party. We are the party that founded the nhs, we believe in Health Care Free at the point of use asa human Health Care Free at the point of use as a human rights. Im now moving on to people who arent the press, frankly. Now. First of all, laura, cani frankly. Now. First of all, laura, can i ask you to ask a question. There she is. Inaudible hi, everyone. Im here as a representative of a group of young european socialists. I have a question which is on the side of the regs of debate but i think is linked. What is the next step for the left in the uk in general not only regarding brexit but regarding what brexit tells is about the state of the left and progressive ideas which is what you started saying about by elections yesterday. How do you as a Party Leaders see the role of labour as you as a Party Leaders see the role of labouras in you as a Party Leaders see the role of labour as in part of being part of labour as in part of being part of the social movement, part of the people who are protesting in the streets against trump coming to visit the uk, part of the people who are fighting for better working conditions and zero our contracts, fighting for actual contracts with actual rights. How do you see the next steps regarding these because i feel that everywhere in europe if we wa nt feel that everywhere in europe if we want to stop this exit route, the solution is not only to react to the Fa Ct Solution is not only to react to the fact that the country chose that but also to give the region for the future and that can also apply to other European Countries to stop this downward circle and make europe a press of place again. Because of the shortage of time, im going to ta ke the shortage of time, im going to take three altogether. Can i have some more indications . Thank u, Nyomi Fee Iam the i am the convener for rolls royce in derby. We have 10,000 employees. For others, hard brexit will be a disaster for rolls royce and European Industry as a whole, which has managed to compete worldwide. The concerns i have specifically our to do with the customs union. We have work that goes over to europe and back. We have 10,000 parts in an engine. Customs union is going to be critical for the whole sector. Everyone in europe is integrated. My question is twofold, how can we do more to get european colleagues on board with this. At the moment, they appear to want to punish others which will do damage to them as well as ours. Our competitors, the americans, will benefit from this. What more are you going to do to get your message across . What weve done today hasnt been successful as proved in copeland and other places. What more can you be doing on that one . So weve had international, trade union, and now i want somebody from business. Who is. Go ahead. My name is david marsh. I am part of an organisation that represents Asset Managers who want to put money into britain from all over the world. Banks and sovereign funds and things like that. The by election reminds me of the apocryphal telegram between generals in the First World War that said it was catastrophic but not serious. Longer term, this issue about the possible exit bill which could be very divisive and could mean that we could crash out of europe without an agreement, as you say, that would really be very bad for everybody in this country. They will put that bill forward because that is the gap partly between the Spending Commitment and the money paid. Ivan rodgers spoke about it very well this week. You going to support the idea that britain will remain very tough in that negotiation with as against the 27 who have banded together or are you going to be more pragmatic and help us to get a deal that could possibly make life more tough for you and your constituents and will mean that we will run out of budgetary funds more quickly. Its a big dilemma. I wonder how you might try to stop it. I just want to sneak in my own question. Weve had a lot of discussions since the referendum with our colleagues across europe and i think it would be helpful in terms of shaping the rest of the day, as well, to say what are your main priorities for the next 18 months in terms of our discussions with the Sister Parties . Thanks very much for the questions. Laura, your question is very profound. Joining the referendum, there was a discussion going on with people all over the country. Those in communities where there is insecure work, where there is the industrialisation, where people are on zero hours or short Term Contracts and in britain that the idea that people are all well off is simply nonsense. There are 6 million working on less than the living wage. The level in households with disabilities means half of those are poor across the country. Many of those people didnt feel that the European Union was offering very much to them. Just the same as People Living or trying to survive in rust belt cities in the United States had an anger with the political establishment that hadnt delivered, just the same as people in the industrialised towns and cities in france or all over europe feel that very same anger. You can turn that anger into blaming minorities, blaming somebody else, or you can turn it into a challenge, a challenge about how you develop an Investments Led economy, how you bring equality in our society and challenge the grotesque levels of Tax Avoidance is that happen among corporations and the risk is richest people. The Youth Movement that has grown up and across the United States and across the world isa United States and across the world is a message of hope and not the message of despair that is offered by so many others. And so we have to develop an Economic Strategy that is about investment, about equality and about investment, about equality and about giving real opportunities to people in our society, not the Postcode Lottery of where you happened to be born, if you get to university or not. That applies in other parts of europe as well. There isa other parts of europe as well. There is a message for every socialist organisation across europe in that. The point that was raised by our friend from rolls royce in derby, absolutely right. Every manufacturing operation in this country relies on a supply chain that goes all across europe, just the same as many Manufacturing Operations across europe do rely in pa rt operations across europe do rely in part on Supply Chains that come from or include britain. Rolls royce is very much an International Company and an International Organisation that needs that ease of access to bring parts in and send them out. Airbus and bmw, the same. All big manufacturing in britain relies on that access to european parts and vice versa. Therefore, we cannot wait for two years to get some degree of solidarity on this. Otherwise, major Investment Decisions will be delayed or made elsewhere and we will end up with a systematic deindustrialisation of this countrys economy. We have to ensure that doesnt happen. The government will introduce its great repeal bill sometime in the summer. We will be challenging that to ensure that we maintain the social protections that we talk about, the environmental and that are so important and the regulations that are so important so that there is a similarity of regulation on Consumer Rights and goods across the continent. We have to develop that and it is exactly what we will be doing. Our priorities are what i have set out. Coming back to parliament in debate in the House Of Lords on a meaningful vote at the end of it so that the uk parliament, as well as the 27 Member State Parliaments and the European Parliament has a say on whatever final agreement is reached, that there is a reporting mechanism so that the British Parliament can arise what the government is doing, challenge them and vote it down, if necessary. Thirdly, very urgent, some stability and support to the eu nationals that are living, working, contributing to this country, maintaining our Health Service and other services. They dont deserve to be dangled on the end of the string any longer. We demand immediate action on this to guarantee their rights of residence in britain. We will be putting those views forward and working with the European Parliament to ensure that goes forward. As rosie explained, we are going to be continuously campaigning to be members of the Council Of Europe and working with states across europe, whether eu members are not on human rights and justice. There is no way forward to put barbed wire between each country. The only way forward is people working together, dealing with problem and issues and promoting peace and stability around europe so that the catastrophe of people dying in the seas around europe trying to get to safety becomes something of the past and not the present and future. That is a huge undertaking but were socialists, humanitarians, humanists. We want to make sure that is the strategy of policies that will follow. But why we have called this conference and it is the agenda we are going to carry out. We are campaigning for Social Justice in this countryjust as much as we want to see socialjustice across the world. That is the labour way and message and it is the message we are going to carry out strongly as we can so that we take on the challenges that every community in this country is facing just as much as colleagues all across europe carry that same message. Thank you very much for here today. Im sorry we cant take any more questions. Jeremy corbyn concluding with questions after his speech on brexit in london. He was asked in relation to the by election in copeland, labours lost to the conservatives. Do you think the problem could be you . The do you think the problem could be you . The answer was, do you think the problem could be you . The answer was, no. Lets look at the detailfrom you . The answer was, no. Lets look at the detail from the by Election Results from the evening with our Political Correspondent tom bateman. Harrison, trudy lynne, the Conservative Party candidate, 13,748. Voters here had chosen a labour mp for the last 80 years. But all that changed in a dramatic night as the conservatives took copeland by 2,000 votes. What has happened here tonight is a truly historic event. Youd have to go back more than a century to find an example of a Governing Party taking a seat from the Opposition Party in an election like this. Sack corbyn, sack corbyn labour had said the vote was on a knife edge. In the aftermath of defeat, their departing candidate chose not to face questions. But this is a moment in history. The first time a conservative has represented the area since the 1930s. And, for them tonight, jubilation. But serious questions for labour underJeremy Corbyn. Theresa may made the rare move of visiting a by election seat vacated by an opposition mp. It was a Hard Fought Campaign over nuclearjobs and hospital services. The result leaves labour assessing its electoral prospects. But there was better news for labour in the by election in stoke on trent, another traditional seat for the party. They held on with a reduced majority. This by election was a test for ukip in a Working Class Area that voted heavily for brexit. Itjust managed second place, but did increase its vote share. Ukips time will come. This will happen. Hang on. This seat was, what, number 72 on our hit list. A lot more will happen. There is a lot more to come from us. We are not going anywhere. I am not going anywhere. So, therefore, you know, we move on and our time will come. There will be jubilation for theresa may at the result in copeland. Jeremy corbyn promised he would reconnect with voters. He may have to try in spite of futher opposition from his own mps. Lets get more on those two by Election Results. 0ur Political Correspondent iain watson is in whitehaven, in the copeland constituency, and our assistant Political Editor norman smith is in stoke on trent. John mcdonnell is a blaming the defeat in copeland on divisions in the Parliamentary Labour Party but clearly a lot of people wont agree with that analysis. I think, to be fairto with that analysis. I think, to be fair to the labour party, they have seen their vote in the copeland constituency here diminishing in recent yea rs. Constituency here diminishing in recent years. They are saying it is effectively a marginal rather than a safe seat. They say the conservatives sent out a lot of misinformation onJeremy Corbyns position on the nuclear industry. The argument that there is special circumstances against this backdrop of division but talking to campaign is here, they werent saying that the Parliamentary Party wasnt supported enough ofJeremy Corbyn. Ive been told by left wing labour mps, people close toJeremy Corbyn, theissue mps, people close toJeremy Corbyn, the issue of his leadership was coming up unprompted on the doorstep. I spoke to the person who co ordinated labours campaign here. He is thejoint co ordinated labours campaign here. He is the joint National Coordinator of campaigns for labour. His responsibility as to whether labour is going to be compared to did at the next General Election and i asked him what lessons labour could learn from the defeat here in copeland. Weve got to get out there and talk to people and listen to people to reconnect with people and reconnect with the communities that we seek to represent. If people are saying, im a labour voter but im not voting for the party wellJeremy Corbyn is the leader, if you are listening, what do you say to those voters . Listening, what do you say to those voters . The labour party is in a period where weve come out of two Leadership Elections. We have got to start looking at what the issues are that matter to people, whether it is the economy, the national Health Service, whether its global issues, how we deal with brexit. There are huge issues out there. We have to build a Policy Platform that people feel confident in voting for. |j think whats interesting there from andrew quinn is saying that we dont wa nt andrew quinn is saying that we dont want a period of introspection, another Leadership Election largely because that challenge failed last time and they may be stuck with someone who isnt able to retain seats like copeland and it is very difficult to persuade him to stand down either. There is a wider problem of trust. He was saying that he agreed with having new

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