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and their predictions of the apocalypse. you say, just leave this to us, we will fix this. we promise we won't let you down. don't be so pessimistic. and then nothing. silence. the duke and duchess of sussex threaten legal action over photos taken by the paparazzi in canada. and jess phillips pulls out of the race to be the next labour leader — saying the party needs someone who will unite all sides of the movement. its five o clock — our top story — donald trump will this evening become only the third american president to go on trial in the us senate. he's accused by the house of representatives of abusing his powers. but with the republican party in the majority in the upper house it's highly unlikely the president will be removed from office. proceedings get under way on capitol hill within the hour, but earlier, the president was thousands of miles away at the world economic forum in davos. here's what he had to say when he arrived. we are here meeting with world leaders who were the biggest and most important people in the world, and we are bringing back tremendous business to the united states that they are all here to see. i will be making a speech and we will be leaving shortly, but i think it's very important. the other isjust a hoax, the witchhunt that has been going on for years and frankly it's disgraceful. the president faces two charges. the first is that he abused his power by pressuring the president of ukraine, to investigate one his main democratic rivals; former vice—presidentjoe biden. the second is that he obstructed congress by trying to stop officials from giving evidence and for withholding documents. the trial in the senate could last up to six weeks — amid various rifts between both sides about how proceedings should be carried out. democrats want to hear from the former national security adviserjohn bolton, who reportedly likened the pressure being put on ukraine to a drug deal. meanwhile republicans are insisting thatjoe biden or his son appear too. here's the democrat, adam schiff, one of the house impeachment managers, speaking in the past couple of hours. this is not a process for a fair trial. this is the process for a rigged trial. this is the process if you do not want the american people to see the evidence. as i mentioned earlier, proceddigs get under way in just under an hour's time. with me now is gary o'donoghue. a reporter on the scene. talk us through what we are going to see this evening. in the coming hour, carrie, we are going to get the senate being called into session as an impeachment court. being presided over by the chiefjustice of the supreme court, john roberts. then the opening statements will be made, but there will also be a two hour debate on the resolution that will govern the rules for the trial. now, this is hugely contentious because the democrats are saying in effect that the whole thing is trying to be concentrated into about a week by republicans of they are not making any provision for evidence to be included in the record properly and the democrats also want to see, as you are saying, witnesses called. the attempt to work out the trials rules is contentious and will be voted on at various points later on today. in contrast, of course, to 21 yea rs today. in contrast, of course, to 21 years ago the last time there was an impeachment trial of a sitting president, bill clinton, when the senate sort of these things out between themselves and voted 100 to zero for the actual basic rules of the trial. nothing like that this time around. it is a partisan fistfight. gary, thank you very much, much more from you later. danny weiss is former chief of staff to nancy pelosi — and senior fellow at the century foundation. we can speak to him now from our studio in washington. and also i'm joined by liz harrington from the republican national committee — who joins us via webcam from capitol hill in washington. thank you both forjoining us. and it can be you first come the president says what you have been embarked on your side of the house it's a witchhunt. obviously that is not accurate. the president is fond of using the word hoax, and u nfortu nately of using the word hoax, and unfortunately what it looks like as we are about to go through a hoax which is a senate trial that's not a fair trial. look, the president admitted to putting pressure on ukraine, to investigatejoe biden. he has already admitted that he did this. abuse of power is a very, very serious offence and it's clearly an impeachable offence. in fact, in england that's how it was established. and the obstruction of congress is also extremely serious and the president what he has done is taken the entire government and an apparatus in his campaign. and is choosing to use the procedures like the executive privilege claims to protect himself from what is really an abuse of power. if you're a member of congress, house member or senator you can't use your government phone or office committee cannot use her government computer to conduct any campaign activity. yet what president trump has done is taken the state department, the of his of management and budget and members of the white house and turn them into the arm of his campaign to shakedown ukraine. let's hear from the other side then. what is your response to those allegations? the other side then. what is your response to those allegation57m you are looking for a rigged process or hiding the evidence, look no further than adam schiff and the democrats and what he is still doing in the house. he still refuses to release the transcript from the testimony of the inspector general which would have revealed adam schiff in effect during this hoax from the beginning by colluded with a registered democrat and the cia, that court nader with his committee to set this whole shame and motion. why is he still hiding that evidence? could you actually deal with the points made by... it's very critical to this case! let's talk about this process. the same thing at the click to rules 24 hours for each site to argue their case. suddenly the democrats think their case that they made from the house which they claim was so overwhelming, suddenly that is not enough? suddenly that's not good enough? suddenly that's not good enough? they are demanding more evidence and more witnesses? they had their chance in the house. they failed to prove it, they pulled tested bravery and extortion and quid pro quo. guess what, it did not work in the polls and it did not work in the polls and it did not work in the polls and it did not work in their process either because it did not even end up in the articles of impeachment. for the first time in history and impeachment includes no crime because none was committed. the argument that democrats had their chance in the house of representatives, why didn't they get to the bottom of the evidence? it's been clearly established that the democrats proceeded with impeachment, they have in fact impeachment, they have in fact impeach president trump siliceous get that clear. he has been impeached the question is whether he will be acquitted or convicted. they allow republicans to call witnesses and allowed republicans to depose those witnesses and cross—examine democratic witnesses think of the president every opportunity to come forward with evidence to prove that he is innocent. the president chose not to do any of that, so the idea that was not a fair trial is absolutely ridiculous. the main issue here now it's going to be with her enough senate republicans to simply go along with the idea of adding witnesses and evidence, we need for republicans in the senate tojoin with the need for republicans in the senate to join with the democratic minority in order to force that. that's a very fair thing to ask for and you're going to see that vote later today and probably see that again later in this proceeding. the idea that the president can use his office to conduct campaign activity and pressure foreign governments to get dirt on an opponent is absolutely outrageous. let me put you at liz harrington, there can place on the republican side of the witnesses in the house of representatives were second—hand, hearsay, never public in the senate have the opportunity to get testimony from advisers and first—hand information, why don't they want to call witnesses? why should the senate do what house democrats failed to do, which was subpoenaed these witnesses? we will see how the senate votes today, may very well vote to allow additional witnesses bites democrats again should be careful what they wish for because you we re should be careful what they wish for because you were going to have to ask hunter biden well, what exactly was the reason i paying you for? all the witnesses agreed was no impeachable offence on that phone call and also agreed that there was corruption and it was fair to ask questions about hunter biden and joe biden's conflict of interest there. we could get that opportunity to ask others questions what he was making $83,000 a month from a corrupt natural gas company with no experience. let's see if we have witnesses, but the idea that the senate should do the democratsjob and will only have democrat witnesses is not going to happen. cani witnesses is not going to happen. can i ask you a yes or no question: the president says it was a perfect phone call, was a perfect phone call? perfectly appropriate and properly fine. it cracks in the media used to be very concerned can be very interested about getting to the bottom of election meddling, all that president trump asked was getting to the bottom of election meddling in the last election, not talking about the future election. the only election meddling we are seeing now is democrats trying to damage and incumbent president going into his reelection. running out of timejust want into his reelection. running out of time just want to ask one wider question, how do you think this will play in the campaign committee democrats try to get their nomination organise, it does it overshadow, and it in the event, boomerang against them and damage them? we don't know, this is an unusual year, never had a present running for reelection after he's been impeached and while he's facing a trial, so it's going to be very interesting in the next ten months in the president will say he was acquitted and assuming that's what happens in democrats will say he used his office and not to be removed if not through impeachment it will incur in, i would say, hopefully in the election. a very tough election on both sides. we are going to have to leave it there but thank you both forjoining us. lots were in all of that coming at oui’ lots were in all of that coming at our special coverage at 530. away from washington — president trump has launched a stinging attack on environmentalists. speaking at the world economic forum in davos, he rejected those he called prophets of doom whose predictions had been wrong for decades. he used his speech to mount a strong defence of his record and to attack climate activism — saying it's a time for optimism, not pessimism. the campaigner greta thunberg said inaction from political leaders is fuelling the flames of climate change. 0ur diplomatic correspondent james robbins sent this report. getting away from it all. donald trump has flown over 4,000 miles from washington to the alpine heights of davos, hoping to look more like a president on the world stage, less like a defendant back home. he's treading carefully on all the ice and snow. any fall here would look terrible. but will this gathering of the world economic forum, 5000 feet up in switzerland, give an embattled president the high ground he craves? even without impeachment, he's way out of step with the main goal of this meeting — to do much more to tackle global temperature rise. this is a time for optimism. fear and doubt is not a good thought process, because this is a time for a tremendous hope and joy and optimism and action. but to embrace the possibilities of tomorrow, we must reject the perennial prophets of doom and their predictions of the apocalypse. they are the heirs of yesterday's foolish fortune tellers and i have them, you have them, we all have them, and they want to see us do badly but we don't let that happen. being here today in switzerland and not in washington, the president may feel he is among friends, surrounded by more than 100 fellow billionaires. but in truth, he's in a much more vulnerable and uncomfortable position than any of them. one of his fiercest critics, greta thunberg, the swedish teenage climate activist, was condemning not just the united states but governments around the world. she accuses them of making empty promises to hide inaction. you say, "children shouldn't worry." you say, "just leave this to us, we will fix this, we promise, we won't let you down. don't be so pessimistic." and then... nothing. silence. or something worse than silence — empty words and promises, which give the impression that sufficient action is being taken. president trump will be using the rest of his time in davos to focus on one—to—one meetings with other world leaders. he will be discussing everything from trade disputes to the huge tensions of the middle east. but the long shadow of events in washington seems to reach here to switzerland. james robbins, bbc news, davos. professorjoanna haigh is emeritus professor at the grantham institute for climate change and the environment at imperial college london. thank you very much for coming in. what is your assessment of the president's these are prophecies of doom, gloom mongers and when you more optimism. he's talking about science as if it is some sort of ta rot science as if it is some sort of tarot card reading or crystal ball gazing, it's based on good evidence and well—established scientific practices. and scientists have all clinical persuasions across the world a re clinical persuasions across the world are now pretty much agreed that global warming is due to human activity and release of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. and he is wrong that we got the predictions wrong, since about the mid—19 70s the forecasts of global temperature increase have been pretty good and sometimes a bit low or a bit higher, but overall the trend has been very well predicted. so in your view that's an error or if fact. so what about the climate change lobby want to control every aspect of our lives? it's quite serious the impression that he gives of a controlling micromanaging agenda. impression that he gives of a controlling micromanaging agendalj think what he needs to do is look at what the issues are and try and direct address the issues notjust lack of people he doesn't want agree with. we need to act on climate change by reducing emissions of greenhouse gases and that means across all of the economic sectors all people need to do something particular we need action on fossil fuels and heating and transport, and everybody needs to do a bit but the governments need to initiate activity. behind his charges, is the message i read into it is one that regulation, interfering regulation on this agenda is going to damage the innovation energy of free market enterprise, do you think there is anything in that? absolutely the opposite because what we need of course is a nice new green tech innovation with all of these bright inventors thinking of new ways in which we can address limit change. the idea that it's acting against market economics is quite a joke when you consider that the previous governor of the bank of england is now the united nations and what on climate change, he quite understands the problem. turning to the other big speaker of the day and mentioned in the report there, greta thunberg. she had sharp words again for government leaders and business leaders accusing them of empty words and empty reassurance, do you think that's a legitimate charge?m certainly true that not enough is being done and it's a little too much to say empty, some of them are empty but some are trying to do stuff. in the uk the government is trying to do stuff commits that 2050 at the target for zero carbon and now it's going to implement, we hope various ways in which it can be done. so there's a lot of rhetoric and not enough action but let's hope they are getting going on it. and not enough action but let's hope they are getting going on itm and not enough action but let's hope they are getting going on it. if you we re they are getting going on it. if you were at kavas, and we know it's very —— davos. we know it's very focused on these challenges and founded by a business leaders who have commercial power in their hands, what would be your top message them? on that not a business person but i would say look at the opportunities you can gain from moving into a new clean industry, from getting rid of dirty old victorian fuels and lovely clea ntech investment old victorian fuels and lovely cleantech investment which can make money for industry. thank you. let's ta ke money for industry. thank you. let's take a look at the headlines now and bbc news. the impeachment trial of donald trump begins soon — it will hear charges that the president abused the power of his office, and obstructed the subsequent inquiry by congress. meanwhile, president trump has mounted a strong attack on the climate change movement, during a speech to political and business leaders at the world economic forum in switzerland. the duke and duchess of sussex are threatening to take legal action over photos taken by the paparazzi in canada, where they've set up home. and in sport, qualifier harriet ta rtt was and in sport, qualifier harriet tartt was the only one of five britons to come to the opening matches of yesterday and opened today. showed superb fighter to win a final set tie—breaker against japan. join 0conto leisure season will come good after exiting the first round. he didn't in straight sets. and de kock has been named as the south africa captain. i will be back on the lump more of those stories throughout the evening. the duke and duchess of sussex have issued a warning to the media after they say paparazzi photographs of the duchess in canada were published in some newspapers and on websites this morning. the couple say that they are prepared to take legal action. prince harry has joined his wife meghan and son archie in vancouver, as they prepare for a new life away from royal duties. 0ur correspondent sophie long is on vancouver island. you can tell us more. this did not ta ke you can tell us more. this did not take long, sophie. know, well this is what harry and meghan came here for. the peaceful waters of the pacific. but they said they found his photographers hiding in bushes and an alarming level of paparazzi activity around the home. you may have seen pictures of her out walking yesterday with her son archie and two dogs in the woods. they stated they did not consent to having those pictures taken. harry only arrived here hours ago on vancouver island. there should have been the first day of their new lives together, he finally quiet family time for the couple. instead it has involved lawyers, legal warnings and accusations of harassment. their legal team said the paparazzi are camped permanently outside their property and even trying to get shots inside the home using long lenses. less than 48 hours before harry left the uk he sought to reassure people he was not walking away and give a very personal speech, and in it he talked about when his mother died, and he said when that happens it took me under your wing you looked after me for so long, but he said the media isa for so long, but he said the media is a powerful force and that was one reason they wanted to come here, but it seems that may have stepped back from royal duties and travel thousands of miles but have not yet found the peaceful life there were hoping to hear. thank you. jess phillips has pulled out of the labour leadership contest. she said the election result had been "cataclysmic" for the party — and that it needed to select someone who could unite the whole movement, but that person wasn't her. in a statement she said. she conceded that she didn't feel able to do that. also this afternoon — the gmb union has backed the wigan mp lisa nandy for the leader. lisa nandyjoins me now. so your response, first off, to just phillips putting the race? i'm sorry that she's gone, grateful to have in the contest and show real friendship to all of the other leadership candidates including me, and she said that she was setting out to speak truth, i think she has met a lot of ways in this contest and i think listening to that statement just now she was absolutely right that we need to speak to the country on their terms, notjust ours and we need to relearn how to connect with people again. i received it back to today, an important union, need those to get to the next stage. they said you were a breath of fresh air, what does that mean? we had a hustings of people from across the gmb with every reason and mission of the uk. what i got a really strong sense of is that they are a group of people who go out and fight every day against poor employment practices and to make things better for the people they represent, and what they really want to see is not more of the same, notjust changing the face of the top and actually somebody who wants to go out and build the team and the movement that will take us back into power and that's what i spent most of my life doing and that's what i want to do with the gmb and every part of our movement so it's an amazing source of pride for me today notjust that i believe in them but that they believe in me too. so that you are a candidate for the whole nation of like more candidates that were more london focus?” whole nation of like more candidates that were more london focus? i like them and i like becky as well and everybody in this contest has a great deal to offer, but the ground has been shaking beneath our feet in towns like mine for a very long time. we have notjust lost scotland we have also been beaten back in north wales, the north and south and midlands. if the ground was shaking for a very long time, do you think those sat down in london were not really listening? we are a party that's very rooted in communities across the uk but the leadership of the party became very disconnected from our grassroots and that's one of the things that i've been saying since this contest started that i wa nt to since this contest started that i want to fix and that someone has been warning about this for a very long time spent parts and very different parts of the country and i think that i am the right person to help bring this party back together, not because one person alone can fix it, they can't but because it takes a team and it takes a movement, and it means you need a different sort of leadership in a different sort of leader. are you fierce enough? i'm interested the emily thornberry said that they would frighten the life out of borisjohnson and the government, will you frighten the life out of him? i don't think you need to shout at people to convince them to my think you need to go out there and win the argument, and like just said you have to do it on people cosmic terms where they are and not on yours. the truth is that borisjohnson and not on yours. the truth is that boris johnson can we just and not on yours. the truth is that borisjohnson can we just saw on the general election, he runs a scared of the media and under my leadership flipper would never be a part of that was scared of going out and making the argument. i believe that we are right, it better country as possible and we need to go and avenge the british public of that. thank you. the government has suffered a fourth defeat in the lords over the government's brexit deal. peers voted by a majority of 80 to call on ministers to restore the right of unaccompanied child refugees in the eu to be re—united with their families in the uk after brexit. the bill will now go back to the house of commons tomorrow but its expected number 10 will try to reverse the changes. rock star ozzy osbourne has revealed he has parkinson's disease. the black sabbath singer, told us tv show good morning america he has a "mild form" that was diagnosed after he suffered a fall last february. in a few minutes' time, we'll be joining katty kay in washington for continuing coverage of the trump impeachment trial, which gets under way this evening. now it's time for a look at the weather. thanks very much indeed, we have seen some big differences in the weather, the cloud amounts across the uk today. pretty chilly already where we got the clearest guys across southern and eastern parts of england those temperatures will drop away for a while. then the cloud will continue to work its way down from the north and the rest of the temperature dropped by the end of the night. the cultus of the weather being this far south of england. from a neat frosty weather morning and a lot of clout around. that's the main reason for it being a bit milder, but messy and murky over the hills in particular. if for southern and eastern parts of england a very different look to the weather compared with today. much more cloud around and some brightness and sunshine here and there. for the northeast of scotland very mild, 13 degrees quite likely. even further south we've got more cloud today and this temperature should actually be higher in double figures. remains fairly quiet and dry, cloudy with that misty over the hills, during thursday but we start to see whether fronts revving in the north of scotla nd fronts revving in the north of scotland and a bit of rain and stronger winds. hello and welcome to the bbc‘s special coverage of president trump's impeachment trial. i'm katty kay in washington. the scene is set on capitol hill — the impeachment hearings for president donald trump get under way in the next hour in the united states senate, where a row has already broken out over whether to admit new evidence and new witnesses. this is not a process for a fair trial, this is a process for a rigged trial. this is the process if you do not want the american people to see the evidence. the president himself is in davos — dismissive of the political threat in washington. it isa it is a hoax, the witchhunts that has been going on for years and frankly, it is disgraceful.

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