Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC News At Five 20170612 : comparem

Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC News At Five 20170612

Away from a bad deal. What happens if we dont get a deal . Our argument in those circumstances is youve got to be able to walk away. Youve got to plan for that even if you dont intend it. Business leaders warn of a drop in confidence following the election saying Political Uncertainty could be disastrous for the economy. Its five oclock. Were At Westminster where theresa may stands accused by labour of presiding over a government in chaos following news that the queens speech, setting out the governments legislative programme, could be delayed. It was meant to take place in a weeks time. The conservatives are still negotiating with the Democratic Unionist Party, to support mrs mays Minority Government, after she lost her majority in last weeks election. Labour says the possible delay to the queens speech is because the government has no idea what it plans to do. Right now, theresa may is addressing the 1922 committee of Conservative Backbenchers well have the latest on the reception she gets there. Our Political Correspondent chris mason has more details. Theresa mays cabinet. No mood of celebration here, just an understated welcome for new members. The most seniorfigures in understated welcome for new members. The most senior figures in a governing Party Without a majority tasked with delivering brexit. Their firstjob . Tasked with delivering brexit. Their first job . Announcing their priorities in the queens speech. It was due next monday, but. Obviously, we are in talks with the dup, to see that the deal that we can put together, and im very optimistic that will happen, but until we have that, we cannot agree the final details of the queens speech. As soon as we the final details of the queens speech. As soon 3s we agree the final details of the queens speech. As soon as we agree that deal, well be able to say when the Queen S Speech will be. Deal, well be able to say when the Queen S Speech will be. The other task for senior ministers was insisting talk of toppling mrs may is. The height of selfindulgence, the british people gave us an instruction, a result we wouldnt have chosen ourselves and it is our job to get on with the work of government and organise arrangements and we can get through the business of the House Of Commons and run the country. She is very good at that. Foreign secretary borisjohnson said that it was time to get a grip. Right now, mrs may is meeting conservative mps to explain herself. I think it is a very good sign of theresa may recognising the importance of cohesion in the party and the importance of us all working together, if we are to make the government work in difficult circumstances. I do not think there is uptight in the country for another General Election or is there any demand among my colleagues for a Leadership Election either. Theresa may wanted to return here with a majority that proved she can be a poll dominating political figure of her age. Now she is diminished, bruised and we can. She called the election with the explicit intention of tebay chancy turbo charging her authority, now it is a wheel clamp on her future. Her authority, now it is a wheel clamp on herfuture. After a turbulent few years, labour are upbeat. We will make sure that we hold their feet to the fire. Where we can, on the Queen S Speech, we will try to ensure that we hold them to account, there may be things we disagree with them on, we will put out amendments and do our best to keep parrying. Out amendments and do our best to keep parrying. The Prime Minister left Downing Street to address conservative mps a few minutes ago. Like never before, theresa may will be reliant on others to prop her up. The votes of Northern Irelands democratic unionists, in the commons, and the support of ambitious colleagues like boris johnson. Politics with its twists and turns have yet again proving its capacity to lead us all out of breath. Chris mason, bbc news, westminster. The meeting is underway, the Prime Minister is meeting the 1922 committee of backbenchers, convincing them she has listened to the message of voters. Their leader is graham brady, conservative mp who was saying to us earlier that he expected the Prime Minister to deliver a message that convinced them that things were going to change. Our chief Political Correspondent vicki young is outside the Houses Of Parliament now. A thought first of all on that meeting and how important it is, and then maybe a thought on the latest of the timings of the queens speech . Conservative mps have come back here today, any of them in shock about what has happened. I spoke to a senior conservative who said that they have the weekend to calm down and now they feel like grumpy teenagers about what has happened, rather than pure vitriol. Some are very angry about what has happened and they want theresa may to ta ke happened and they want theresa may to take responsibility for that. They expect her to do that in that meeting going on in the corridors of this building behind me. Apparently it is completely packed, some mps are trying to get in but could barely get in because it was so busy. Early rivals were critics of theresa may like nicky morgan, trying to get a front row seat. She will have to show theresa may that she understands what happened and she understands what happened and she will change. We know that she agreed to change and have a more collegiate government. That has gone on this afternoon. We had a two hour political Cabinet Meeting where im sure they discussed what went wrong. When it come to the queens speech, there has been utter confusion here today. The bbc learned there would bea today. The bbc learned there would be a delay, when they set out the programme of government, that is supposed to happen next monday and we we re supposed to happen next monday and we were told it would be delayed while the agreement, of some kind, with the dup was thrashed out. Then we heard it may be back on. Then a Senior Cabinet Minister comes out and they think there will be a delay. On that there is confusion but until the deal is done with the dup, how can they lay out their programme of government . Theresa may needs to know and be sure that she has those votes to get it through parliament. And meanwhile, there is a lively and intense debate over the factors that fed into the result and the Hung Parliament we have following that election last week . You Prime Ministers new Chief Of Staff features in the debate about this practice . Yes, interestingly, a man called Gavin Barwell used to be the conservative mp in croydon. He lost his seat on thursday and has since been brought in by theresa may to be Chief Of Staff. A popular former mp, he knows the Conservative Party well. He has some views about except you what happened at a time when mps are trying to work out what went wrong, they did not see it coming. They pointed out their vote share went up but they wanted to know why labour appealed to people so know why labour appealed to people so much. On one of those issues, Gavin Barwell suggests that austerity had something to do with it. Its a conversation i remember with a teacher, who voted for me in 2010 and 2015. And said, i understood the need for a pay freeze for a few years to deal with the deficit but you are asking that he go on for ten and 11 years, that is too much. Jeremy corbyn could tap into that. Others wondered whether it was to do with the brexit fate and whether theresa may spent too much of the last year talking about what 52 of the population voted for and airbrushing out those who had a very different opinion. Many people said, does this mean there will be a different kind of brexit . Could the uk end up staying within the Single Market . Mr conservative mps do not agree with that and they pointed to the fact that the labour and conservative manifesto said that they would leave the Single Market. Gavin barwell talked they would leave the Single Market. Gavin ba rwell talked about they would leave the Single Market. Gavin barwell talked about the appealJeremy Corbyn had to voters. The real thing that we need to understand is how the Labour Party Got 40 of the vote and how they were successful in motivating large numbers of people who do not normally vote for them, and what we can do to make sure people that are conservative minded, who voted to remain in the referendum, are happy to keep supporting the party. We look at the higher effects, the high turnout and in strong remain areas labourdid turnout and in strong remain areas labour did well. And how in the next election, we can address those concerns. Gavin barwell will be at the centre of government in Downing Street trying to wrestle with those issues and how theresa may can broaden her repeal. That is part of an interview on panorama this evening on bbc one at 8 30pm broaden her appeal. Lets talk now to the former Conservative Minister and mp rob wilson who lost his seat in reading east on friday. Thanks forjoining us. Thank you for coming in. Lets talk about your area first. You digest of the disappointment, but what did you piece together in terms of the factors involved in the resulting. In yourarea . Factors involved in the resulting. In your area . It was going very well indeed, and then the manifesto came out. It shot our main fox, older people were upset about the social ca re people were upset about the social care policy and many did not properly understand it. It went downhill from there. But other factors were clear. Public Sector Workers and people at the school gates, school gate mums, they were upset about some cuts that they felt we re upset about some cuts that they felt were taking place in education. There was feedback about the Health Service and pressures there. Also, there was the issue over remain as feeling that they can not vote for the conservatives. Remain. They wanted a softer brexit. There was the additional factor of young people who caught on to theJeremy Corbyn message, and turned out in numbers, especially in university areas, like never before. If you ta ke areas, like never before. If you take out the manifesto issued for a second, the social care issue, what could the party have done about other factors that you mentioned . Given the Prime Ministers stance on those things . We could have run a much more technologically slick campaign, especially for younger people. I think that we were absolutely beaten at every stage by the social Media Campaign that labour ran, in terms of Targeting Seats we targeted the wrong seats, it turned out. Even when the information began to come back, we did not adjust quickly enough to target seats where we could put defensive positions in place. There we re defensive positions in place. There were things we could have done. That is pretty damning . I dont think i am saying anything people would not recognise, it was probably the worst general Election Campaign ive ever been part. When graham brady, your former colleague, sat in that seat on friday afternoon, he made it quite clear he thought the Prime Minister didnt have the right message out when she came back to street after the visit to the palace on friday and said there needed to bea on friday and said there needed to be a change in style and how the government was wrong. Do you agree . What should the changes be . |j government was wrong. Do you agree . What should the changes be . I think the Prime Minister recognised that there needs to be changes and her two chiefs of staff have already gone. I think there is a drive towards a more cabinet style of government today. There was a long Cabinet Meeting and the Prime Minister is meeting the 1922 committee, and there will be a number of questions and answers at that meeting which i think well ta ke that meeting which i think well take things further forward. When you talk about the kind of people that you do not appeal to, i want to give them the news today that there are still talks going on to establish some kind of arrangement, whether formal or informal with the dup, how will that help or not help matters in your view . I think the most important thing in the National Interest is to get stability. Businesses are feeling the uncertainty and stopping investing and Consumer Spending is beginning to dry up. What we need is a period of calm and stability, where we do not have another election and where we certainly do not get into the sort of situations where the government is unstable. If it means for a period of time we have to go toa for a period of time we have to go to a supply and confidence arrangement, we will do that. You touched on two things. You imply strongly that there should not be a Leadership Challenge and you, personally, think the dup arrangement is one that should be exercised . I think the dup arrangement has to be, because we need stable government. I think that, because a challenge to the Prime Minister now would be something that not only the Conservative Party would regret, i think the country would regret it. Having a leadership contest, and probably another General Election, would not be the right thing in the National Interest. Rob wilson, good to talk to you. Thank you for coming in. Former Conservative Minister and former conservative mp for reading east. The brexit secretary david davis has insisted that talks on leaving the European Union will begin next week, despite the uncertainty surrounding theresa mays government. Downing street says the governments position on brexit remains unchanged, despite calls from some mps for theresa may to be more flexible. Negotiations on leaving the eu are to get under way next week. Meps and european commissioners are in strasbourg to discuss the way forward. This report from our Political Correspondent Eleanor Garnier contains some flash photography. Brexit the vote to leave the eu almost a year ago, but the debate on exactly how we accept, the terms and the priorities, has been reopened, just days before brexit negotiations begin. Some tory mps are demanding theresa may has a rethink. And in scotland, where the conservatives there had their best election result for more than 30 years, are promising to pile on the pressure. We will be looking to make sure that our influence is felt. We played a significant part in ensuring there is a conservative Minority Government after this General Election, with the fantastic result in scotland, winning all those seats, getting the second in the popular vote and putting our vote up so significantly. A manifesto to see us through brexit and beyond. Theresa may had wanted a much bigger mandate from voters for her vision of brexit, to take britain out of the Single Market, Have Control Over Eu migration to the uk and to get new free trade deals with the eu and other countries. But, left without a majority, she is facing calls for compromise. This isnt new. Just before christmas, the Scottish Government put together a pan uk compromise document, to put independence to one side, to look at the document, remaining members of the Single Market. That is what we need to get behind. It is perfectly possible to stay within the Single Market, to keep all the benefits of that and it is possible to have a degree of management of migration, if thats a central issue, countries like switzerland do it, so that is the kind of compromise you should be looking at. Buoyed by their relative success, labour stand in a rare moment of unity and are adding to mrs mays problems. For her to get through any legislation relating to brexit, never mind a vote on the deal, she will need a degree of cross party support, simply getting the dup support is not going to be enough. But the government maintains its Brexit Strategy has not changed and is sticking to its tactics, insisting no deal is still better than a bad deal. You have got to plan for that, even if you dont intend it. It is not the central aim,

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