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Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC News At Five 20170515

Pound a month. They took it all away from me. On labours campaign, Jeremy Corbyn promises an extra £37 billion for the nhs and shorter Hospital Waiting Lists. Frances new president on his first full day in Office Visits germany to boost the relationship at the heart of the eu. And a sky dive at the age of 101 the d day veteran who says hes now planning something else. If im fit and well, and the doctor puts his signature on thshgs i might try a and do a bit of wing walking. That i would love to do. Its 5 oclock. The governments Emergency Committee cobra is meeting right now to discuss the cyber attack which Hit Nhs Trusts in england and scotland three days ago. 16 Hospital Trusts are still experiencing problems. Patients have been urged to turn up for appointments unless they hear otherwise. The head of the Technology Giant microsoft has said the attack should be treated as a wake up call. The governments been criticised for not being proactive enough in making sure the nhs is properly protected. One of the english trusts affected is in york, from where our correspondent danny savage reports. Is typical of many hospitals in england, a large number of computers are still unusable, leading to lots of pen and paper administration. But the message is turn up as planned. There is no screens, everythings getting written down. You cant make appointments, just hopefully they will send the appointments out. Did it slow things down . Not really. They were professional about it and did well. It must be a nightmare for them. I asked my gp, because i got referred from the surgery. What was their advice . Just to go as normal. No problems . No. As time goes on, more and more computers are up and running again. It feels like business as usual, although the staff would say otherwise. Once the situation unfolded, it was clear it was almost engulfing the organisation and we had 2,000 of our 6 thousand pcs out of action. That is quite disabling for services in a health care environment. In lincolnshire it is a different story. The United Lincolnshire Hospitals Trust said work is ongoing to restore it systems, but we are unable to go ahead with many appointments. Thats left patients like steve expecting results on canter still wondering about his diagnosis. Expecting results on canter still wondering about his diagnosism expecting results on canter still wondering about his diagnosis. It is because the nhs hasnt spent sufficient money on it. Safeguards. And that we are in the state that we are in. And the bottom line is, well, theres only one person going to suffer and thats the Tens Of Thousands like me. Mr hunt, did you know the it system was vun wrabl. Could the system have been better prepared, the Health Secretary refused to comment on the situation when approached today. But he has since spoken. What is being done . Although we have never seen anything on this scale, theyre relatively common and there are things you can do, that everyone can do to protect ourselves against them. In particular, making sure that our data is properly backed up and making sure we are using the softwa re making sure we are using the software patches, the Antivirus Patches that are sent out by manufacturers. These are things we can all do to reduce the risk of the impact we have seen. There are clearly wide variations between hospitals over just how clearly wide variations between hospitals overjust how badly they we re hospitals overjust how badly they were hit and how quickly they are recovering from the cyberattack. The fall out will be far reaching and uncomfortable for some. It is difficult to know why, but some of the theories is the trusts might have been using older equipment. The theories is the trusts might have been using older equipmentm has been a very stressful few days for staff and patients alike in the nhs. It has highlighted the Systems Dependency on computers and what needs to be done to prevent another melt down. The president of microsoft, brad smith, has been highly critical of the Us National Security agency, saying it should have notified them when it found Serious Software flaws in their systems. And in the uk, the National Crime agency is warning victims not to give in to Ransom Demands as theres no guarantee theyll regain access to their files. Our correspondent wyre davies has more details. Experts say this cyber attack was unprecedented in the way it was able to affect vulnerable Computer Systems, but also how it spread across the globe, hitting major public bodies like the nhs, but also individual users and several large multinational companies. The attack was thwarted with what has been described as a Master Killswitch before it could spread further, but companies that specialise in Cyber Security say further incidents are almost inevitable. I would say phase one is over, but i would wager there are more phases to come, both in terms of this attack, making sure companies are not vulnerable to this kind of malware, but also secondary attacks that may be using variants of this. People need to be acutely aware of that possibility. With hundreds of thousands of victims in more than 150 countries, microsoft, which makes the Operating Systems that were targeted, says governments should treat the attack as a wake up call. It criticised bodies such as the cia and Us National Security agency for developing and stockpiling software that could be exploited by hackers. Microsofts president and chief legal officer brad smith said. This is an area that involves both government and the private sector, and there are a number of programmes where they need to work together. Some of those are National Critical infrastructure. As we look at everything from Financial Markets to travel, transportation, and the grid itself. Those affected by the hack were faced with an on screen demand for payment of 300 about £230 in the Virtual Currency bitcoin. In a tweet, the National Crime agency warned victims not to pay any ransom, saying the recovery of files could not be guaranteed, although there is evidence that some targeted individuals are indeed paying up. The most important thing to say is, as of 10 30am, action fraud, Who Collate Crimes in this area, have had no new reports in relation to this strain. It is important that the public understand that. The attack, described as the biggest of its kind, has exposed the inherent weakness of an interconnected world, increasingly reliant on Computer Systems that are not properly protected or updated. The digital equivalent of a globalflu epidemic, but much more sinister, and potentially much more expensive. And wyrejoins me now from outside that cobra meeting in whitehall. Just bring us up to date on who is there and what is your understanding of what this meeting is going to do . We understand the cobra meeting of the Emergency Committee is still going on under the leadership of the Home Secretary and jeremy hunt is at the meeting. The government is keen to give the impression it is on top of this and doing something to tackle what is and what was an unprecedented attack. The one good piece of news is the much anticipated second big attack that people had suggested might happen today has not yet happened. Happened yet. Some 16 trusts are still fighting what happened last week. At such a sensitive time for the government with a General Election around the corner, the government has been accused by opponents in the labour party and the Liberal Democrats of being caught almost with its trousers down and not being prepared for the attack. The Prime Minister hit back, saying that those warnings were sent out to various Health Trusts, peeling them about the telling them about the necessary updates to their computers. The but the reality is many of the Health Trusts and boards in england still operate very old Computer Systems. You will note that in wales there wasnt a single successful breach of the nhs trusts in wales, because according to the Welsh Government all their Computer Systems Welsh Government all their computer syste ms ha d Welsh Government all their Computer Systems had recently been upgraded with the relevant software. So there is an answer for the uk government, why werent those patches in place to prevent touch an attack in england . Thank you. Any more from the cobra meeting and we will be back to you. With me is our Technology Reporter chris fox, who has been looking at the developments. Talk to us about today and peoples expectation of another big spike, diwi does not which does not seem to have happened . There were big headlines promising ran somme ware. The original thing was diverted by accident. That didnt get peoples files backed, but stopped the version doing any more damage and It Administrators all weekend have spent the weekend patching their systems to make sure when people come into work on monday there is no more consequences from there is no more consequences from the ran some ware. Now who may have been responsible. A lot of theories are around and then this intervention by microsoft that i mentioned, so first of all, blame . Very difficult to say, but the researchers who i have spoken to say the code for the original version of this was amateurish and the frabgt fa ct this was amateurish and the frabgt fact it was disabled easily means it could have been an individual. But the police are investigating, the fbi and the uk crime agency are on it. In the past we have had examples where criminals have been caught. So we may see some developments, fingers crossed we find out. In term of what microsoft said, brad smith said this has affected customers around the world, implying that the nsa was to blame. It should have stored the vulnerability more securely. If you want spy agencies to spy on people, theyre supposed to spy on people, theyre supposed to do, they need these hacks to be able to do it. If you want them to be able to spy and some people dont think they should, but if you want them to, theyre going to need these tools. The final point is people at home who understandably will have concerns about their systems, what is your advice . Luckily it seeps weep seems peoples Wi Fi Routers filtered it out. The best thing is install your security updates. Sometimes they pop up, get them installed and make sure the system is up to date and keep a back date of sensitive data, anything you dont want to lose on an external ha rd dont want to lose on an external hard drive. Back it up, unplug it and keep it way from them. And be on the look out for follow up attacks. Cybercriminals use thing like this to send follow up e mails and you may get an e mail saying you have heard about this attack, you need to click on this link. It is unlikely any company would send an e mail like that. Be on the watch for scams. Thank you. On the Campaign Trail in oxfordshire, theresa may has been confronted by a woman who told her benefit cuts had left her with £100 a month to live on. Cathy mohan from abingdon said she could not live on her reduced personal independence payment, saying she wanted her Disability Living Allowance back. Earlier, mrs may was promised to boost Workers Rights if the conservatives won the election. Our political correspondent, leila nathoo, is in westminster now. Tilse more about this confrontation. Theresa may was in oxford and she was trying to deflect some criticism she has faced for not having enough interaction with ordinary voters. She has faced accusations that she has been protected from the public only addressing conservative supporters and invited audiences. Today she was out on the Campaign Trail ina today she was out on the Campaign Trail in a local market with the local conservative candidate when she was confronted by a woman called cathy, who challenged her over conservative changes to benefits, which she said has left her worse off. She was referring to personal independence payments that replaced the disability yablt lif Disability Living Allowance. The women women was to he deuce the welfare bill. We have done a lot to help. Im talking four everybody with learning disabilities, i want them not to have their money taken away from them and being crippled. We are going to do a number. The fat cats keep the money. We are going to do a number of things. You know what i want . Iwant number of things. You know what i want . I want my. Number of things. You know what i want . Iwant my. Disability number of things. You know what i want . I want my. Disability living allowa nce want . I want my. Disability living allowance to come back. Not have pips and have nothing. I cant live ona pips and have nothing. I cant live on a hundred pounds a month. You cant to it. Debbie is not my carer. I she is going to help you. She might not. She has a lot of things. Im sure we will find a way. Kwha youre talking about for your case. For everybody. Not just for me. Youre talking about for your case. For everybody. Notjust for me. Im sticking up for them, because i go toa sticking up for them, because i go to a club for disabled people. Nicola can help you, what i can do is ensure we are giving help to people with Mental Health problems. And learning difficulties, people in wheelchairs and everybody. That is what we want to ensure when we look at the help given to people with disability, we focus on those most in need. I am, disability, we focus on those most in need. Iam, i dont disability, we focus on those most in need. I am, i dont get nothing. You had better help me, please. The subject of Disability Allowance came up subject of Disability Allowance came up in subject of Disability Allowance came upina subject of Disability Allowance came up in a Facebook Live that theresa may did with itv and she repeated the line she was trying to help those most in need, but she recognised there had been issues with the assessment. But what theresa may was talk about was Workers Rights and she in a bid to try and capture Labour Voters that she thinks have been neglected by the party. My colleague has been looking at what has been announced. Up looking at what has been announced. Up the workers, not phrases you would expect from theresa may. But just listen to this. What we are doing today is announcing the biggest ever enhancement of workers right base conservative government. She chose to announce this at a company that helps women get back into work and set out some of the detail. We are committing the National Living wage will continue to rise, yes, that people will be able to request time off to care for able to request time off to care for a relative and we want to support and encourage returnships. I have have been to a fantastic organisation helping women who have been taken time out of work looking after children to get the skills to get back into work. So employees would be able to take time off to look after relative, but it will be unpaid and she would introduce a right for bereaved parents to take leave and protect the rights workers enjoy as part of the eu. Theresa may is also signalling she will help people who are not in secure employment. But specific proposals will have to wait for the review. Some Small Businesses th say theyre worried about regulations. A bigger business with an Hr Department may be able to absorb somebody going off for a year. For a smaller business that may only employ three or four people, that is a significant chunk of the workforce. There is notjust the cost of that, but they may specialised and it may bl difficult to replace them. Theresa may is making a land grab forformer Labour Voters who have gone to ukip. Getting the criticism from business may not be a bad thing. But she is rebranding the party, no longer lead by an old etonian, she is claiming it can address the concerns of people across the country. Labours ma nifesto people across the country. Labours manifesto will have a 20 point plan for Workers Rights. Some trade union are arguing that theresa mays record suggests she cant be trusted. Lets judge her record suggests she cant be trusted. Letsjudge her on her record, zero hours contracts and the trade union act,

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