odds against them i do not think given what we saw in their offensive last year that it will help them actually to break through the russian positions. remember, for every weapon or shall we give the ukrainians the russians lay another mind. there are multiple lines now of russian minefields and defensive. very difficult to break through. if it's taken this long and a majority of republicans still voted against this bill in the house, can anyone seriously guarantee that the aid this level will continue next year? especially of course if trump wins the election or the year after that. this aid will undoubtedly help ukrainians to hold out but i cannot see it helping to win on the terms that they have defined victory. of