and mail — i pointed out there were scuffles earlier and asked for an update on the situation. certainly, a few skirmishes that we saw, especially later this evening. it is friday in the capital. what you see behind me is this black or darker wall, that is a wall of people facing off with protesters and police. the police are walking towards them very slowly and deliberately, a few steps at a time and all the while, protesters are trying to resist them, facing off with them, sometimes shouting at them. but the police are still moving forward, still pushing forward, they have a lot of back—up, police on horses for example. they have used pepper spray. it is certainly tense behind me in ottawa. several of the key organisers have been arrested, what are the protesters who are still there saying? it depends on who you talk to.