become a nato member. and that is basically what putin wants. we're talking about ukraine, it is about ukraine, but putin took�*s ambitions of course are a completely new european security structure. he has already dismembered georgia, he has dismembered moldova, he has dismembered moldova, he has dismembered ukraine, and now he tries to dismember nato, and that is of course unacceptable, and there is a lot to discuss, but there is also a lot to discuss, but there is also a lot to discuss, but there is also a lot which is not to discuss because it simply will not work and cannot work for nato, and i say cannot work for nato, and i say cannot work for the european union, either. , a... , cannot work for the european union, either. . w, , , cannot work for the european union, either. , . ., , , , either. jaap de hoop scheffer, former secretary-general - either. jaap de hoop scheffer, former secretary-general of i either. jaap de hoop scheffer, - former secretary-general of nato, former secretary—general of nato, thank you. victims of ghislaine maxwell have been speaking of their relief at the guilty verdicts in her sex trafficking trial in new york. she now faces a lengthy prison sentence after being convicted for grooming underage girls to be abused by the disgraced financierjeffrey epstein. her family are backing an appeal