should be denied communion, they say, because of his support for abortion rights. pope francis has urged american clergy and american bishops not to do that, he said the need to take a pastoral rather than a political viewpoint. in many ways, pope francis and joe biden, on the liberal wing of the communities they represent, both of them quite disliked by the conservative circles among the american catholic church. in terms of their approach to tackling climate change, a lot of common ground they are, before leaving washington president biden set out a framework a spending bill which included the biggest climate investment in us history. we have been hearing early at the message that the pope recorded exclusively for the bbc, where he was putting out his message of hope that people would come together to tackle climate change. how significant is this meeting, when it comes to that