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you read carefully, from the akerson group, we knew that building a house of cards, —— the afghan study group, and if we kept propping up the afghan ministry, that by somehow, by magic, illegitimate government would come into being, that could gain the loyalty of that military, and use it effectively against the taliban. the problem was there was nobody ever working on that, and many of the things we were doing in building the afghan forces was working directly against our ability to build something that was going to last. when you think about the us military and other international forces working to build up the afghan security forces, and then you see how quickly they crumples, i don't know how much you feel condemnation or how much empathy for, i suppose, men and women who may be frightened, rudderless, leaderless? you

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