previous month in following social distancing have together helped us to bring this virus under control. i commend the statement of the house. thank you and i thank the home secretary for her statement and advanced we have been calling for sensible, and we it is vital the uk has a plan for minimising the risk of infection is coming into the country but the home secretary must also realise there are a fundamental question she needs to realise she needs to answer. why these particular measures and why now? from when the lockdown was imposed, only 273 people were formally quarantined from four flights, three from one hand, one from tokyo, when over 18 million people into the country by air. the home secretaryjust said in her statement this was because domestic transmission was widespread, but this is what the government because my own chief scientific adviser said, and i quote" a lot of the cases in the uk didn't come from china, and didn't come from the places you might have expected. they actually came from european imports and the high level of travelling to the uk around that time". and ministers saw on their television screens what was happening in italy in what was happening in italy in what was happening in italy in what was happening in spain. on the 30th of april, i wrote to the home secretary to ask her to publish in full the scientific advice that her decisions on measures of the border at that time were based on so we could learn the lessons going forward. she hasn't even replied to my letter, and not making all that information public is a mistake. unfortunately, like too much of the home office handling of this crisis, the management of arrivals to the united kingdom has lacked urgency and coherence. as long ago as the 10th of may, the prime minister gave notice of these quarantine measures. why has the government wasted precious weeks talking about possible border restrictions, rather than taking effective actions? if these measures are necessary from 8th ofjune, why have they not be necessary in recent weeks, or from when they were first announced by the home secretary herself on 22nd of may? and can the home secretary give me her assurance that these measures from monday next week have been recommended and approved by sage? i do join been recommended and approved by sage? i dojoin her in her praise of what those at border force have done, but can she give me a further assurance that border force on the front line will have the resources and all the protection that they need? madame deputy speaker, the government because my confusion over arrivals and quarantine has widespread implications for the uk economy, particularly aviation, hospitality and tourism and related supply chains. huge numbers ofjobs are at risk, yet the crucial package of support for these industries that we on these benches have argued for has yet to materialise. in her statement, the home secretary mentioned a roundtable with the transport secretary tomorrow with businesses, but the government should already have done that. they should already have done that. they should be presenting these steps today as part of an all—encompassing approach, to travel, to the aviation sector, backed up by the published scientific evidence. and this is necessary madame deputy speaker because there has to be reassurance the quarantine has a genuine public health benefit now that according to the government it did not have in past months. and that these measures are not just past months. and that these measures are notjust a three—week fudge to try to spare the government embarrassments for failing to grip this issue at the right time. and given that there is no vaccine at the moment, the test, track and isolate is not fully up and running as the government promised it would be, iask as the government promised it would be, i ask that the home secretary makes a commitment that she will report back to the house by the end of the initial three—week window on that first review she in her statement, outline her proposed exit strategy from these measures, outline her plans for any travel corridors. and can the home secretary pass on the message to the government of how urgent it is that that comprehensive package to supportjobs is that comprehensive package to support jobs is brought forward that comprehensive package to supportjobs is brought forward as soon as possible? madam deputy speaker, i thank the right honourable gentleman for his comments, his questions and his remarks, and first of all, madame deputy speaker, i think all members of the house will recognise that through the difficulties that the entire country has experienced through coronavirus, and throughout this outbreak in particular, across government, led by the scientific advice, but also led by my right honourable friend the health secretary, throughout government we have had a conference response. throughout the outbreak, we have brought in the right measures at the right time, based on scientific advice, dating back as far back as january, throughout february and going into march as well. and during that contain phase, the government had at the borders in particular and enhanced monitoring policy and approach to identify symptomatic travellers from high—risk areas in the early stages, and importantly at that time to safely triage them through the system. this was applied to those returning from wuhan on 22nd of january, and to those returning from wuhan on 22nd ofjanuary, and that approach has broadened... if the honourable gentleman would let me finish, please, and would listen to the fact that i am providing him with. laughter they are facts, and they are very specific dates, returning from wuhan on 22nd of january, specific dates, returning from wuhan on 22nd ofjanuary, that approach was broadened in conjunction with the department for transport for the whole of china on 25th of january, and injapan on... northern italy on the 4th and injapan on... northern italy on the 11th of march and the whole of italy on the 5th of march. once when there was significant transmission within the uk, border restrictions have been very large and the impact. ministers at the time had articulated that across government in the, hence it way in which this isa in the, hence it way in which this is a cross government pandemic and all government partners work together, and at that point it was recognised there would have contributed a tiny proportion of the number of new infections in the uk. now that domestic transmission within the uk is coming under control, it is the right time to prepare for these new measures at the border. but the right honourable gentleman did also ask, i think for the benefit of the house, in terms of the health measures that were brought in in the very early stages, they were brought in through the general aircraft declaration system, through aviation, so it is through my right honourable friend the transport secretary's department, in conjunction with border force, transport secretary's department, in conjunction with borderforce, and when that process concluded, it covered 13 uk airports, 15 territories, 2a and 1116 flights we re territories, 2a and 1116 flights were monitored, with a 98% compliance rate on the general aircraft declaration, and the purpose of those declarations are of course to provide the details of any illnesses on board, and therefore inform public health risk assessment so that the appropriate action could therefore be taken with passengers at that particular time. now, the right honourable gentleman has also asked and touched on a number of other factors, asked and touched on a number of otherfactors, including ppe for border staff. border force have been exceptional throughout this crisis, madam deputy speaker, and i think it is worth paying tribute to them in the way in which they have worked in keeping our border safe and secure. they do have throughout this following all the public health guidance from ph england, adequate ppe protection and that remains and will continue, and finally madame deputy speaker, in response to the right honourable gentleman, he rightly asks about a comprehensive approach for tourism, aviation, the world —class approach for tourism, aviation, the world—class industries we have in the united kingdom, and rightly so. i have worked in many of those sectors in my previous career as well. a couple hence of approaches being taken. he asked as to why we are only meeting with them now. that is not the case at all. the department for transport, i myself has also been in touch with many representatives from the industry as well. in touch with many representatives from the industry as well. we work across government and i know the honourable gentleman is nodding his head on that point as well come in response to the transport secretary, he would rightly expect a comprehensive approach. that comprehensive approach. that comprehensive approach. that comprehensive approach will be coming forward again on the floor of this house, not just coming forward again on the floor of this house, notjust by myself but by my other colleagues, my right honourable friends as well across government who lead those departments and the collective response to this particular issue. thank you very much, madam deputy speaker. ouara ntine will thank you very much, madam deputy speaker. quarantine will have an impact on businesses who rely heavily on the hospitality sector like ceramics stoke—on—trent, i have been spoken to on that point. can my right honourable friend assure manufacturers that quarantine will not hinder them as they try and reboot the local economy? my honourable friend is absolutely right in terms of the fantastic ceramics industry in stoke—on—trent and he is a great advocate for them as well, of course. there are some very important points to make on this, madam deputy speaker, and i reiterate again, these are public health measures designed to protect the british public for imported cases of coronavirus. but of course, we are global britain, our borders are not shot, let me emphasise that point of the house. we are global britain. when it comes to goods in particular and exports coming in and goods going out of the country is welcome all of that will continue and businesses, of course, continue to be at the forefront of being global britain and that will continue for the ceramics industry. joanna cherry. thank you, madam deputy speaker recommend may affect the home secretary for advanced site of her statement and like her i pay tribute to our border force and other key workers. madam deputy speaker, the scottish national party have been calling on the uk government to introduce public health measures at uk borders for some months now. the centre for evidence—based medicine at the university of oxford have said the effectiveness of quarantine during a viral outbreak relies on the timing and accuracy of the quarantine period, as well as the ability of individuals and health care providers to follow quarantine procedures. i fear that the providers to follow quarantine procedures. ifear that the home secretary's statement does not fully address these matters. there has been widespread concern that the uk has been out of step with most other countries who introduced public health measures at their borders far earlier in the pandemic. the best way for her to address the failure to introduce any measures to date and also the effectiveness of the measures she now proposes is to publish the evidence and the advice upon which she has relied. the matter was discussed at the sage meeting on the 7th of may but their advice is yet to be published. will she undertake to publish that advice from the meeting of the 7th of may today? and can she tell us what advice have sage given us about the widely reported aspects in which it is suggested the government intends to water down quarantine proposals? do sage think these quarantine measures will be effective if these watering down proposals are in place? i note that she said the measures will be considered regularly commencing in the week beginning 28th ofjune. but can she tell us how long overall she envisages the measures will be in place? and finally, these measures at the border are her responsibility as home secretary, but part of their delivery and part of their enforcement will be in scotland and will be the responsibility of the scottish government will stop so will she undertake to meaningfully engage with my colleagues in the scottish government on their requirements before any potential changes are made in the weeks and months ahead? i thank the right honourable lady for her questions and her comments. there are a number of points, if i may, just allude to. i completely reiterate and restate the points i made about the measures that have been taken from the beginning of the year in terms of public health measures within the aviation sector, but also enhanced monitoring at the borders to identify symptomatic travellers from high—risk areas. that happened early and safely and people were triage to the health systems. i think that's really important for everyone to remember that as well and be mindful of this because these are public health measures. if i may say so in a nswer to health measures. if i may say so in answer to the right honourable gentleman as well, make the point about publishing the advice through sage. sage publish their advice accordingly and that is ongoing, but very specifically she referred to potential downgrading of these measures. these are public health measures. these are public health measures and this is not something for the home office or myself as home secretary to consider in isolation or independently. this is a part of a wider package in terms of public health measures in line with the public health regulations that are being laid in parliament and put down in terms of reducing the r value and protection the british public and it's really important, madam deputy speaker, for the british public and all members and right honourable members of this house to put this into perspective and the context that we are in a national health emergency right now. this isn't about the convenience or inconvenience of certain regulations and measures being put down and the application of them. we are here to make sure we protect public health first and foremost, and that's why it is important, whenever these measures are reconsidered in due course, and they will be aligned with other regulations when they are reviewed as well that we look at this within the totality as to how we can protect the public and their health. i'd like to get everybody that will require short questions and short answers. steve brine. if i'm honest, we keep being told to use our common sense, the idea that this was wrong when europe was the centre of a pandemic and right now, it doesn't add up to me but maybe that's just me but we are where we are and we can't go back so we start from here. hundreds of my constituents rely on southampton airport for their livelihood. it was on its knees before covid so whilst i appreciate talk of travel corridors, can i ask my right honourable friend whether the government would consider travel gates to block incoming travellers from certain countries based on the science with a more targeted risk based approach as happened with security standards? my honourable friend is absolutely right. there will be a range of measures. i should emphasise to the house, this is part of our ongoing dialogue with the industry. it is for government to specify the actions that the sector should undertake. we have to work together. and also the health screening options and opportunities in the way we can work to innovate and set the standards internationally. we want to be at the forefront of that and want to work with our industry to do so as well. sir patrick vallance has said that the crisis escalated in this country as a result of many cases coming from spain and italy during march. could —— the trieste system wasn't working. the select committee has been told that in a ten day period from 13th—23rd of march, up to 10,000 passengers with coronavirus are likely to have arrived at our ports and airports. the home secretary has still not published the signs that we work from behind these decisions. can i urge her now to do so and tell us, what is her estimate of the number of people in the next three week period who are likely to arrive in the uk, with coronavirus?” period who are likely to arrive in the uk, with coronavirus? i thank the uk, with coronavirus? i thank the right honourable lady for her comments. i'm really clear about the measures that were brought in. the enhanced monitoring measures at the borders, i have been clear about that and provided data to the house andi that and provided data to the house and i give an example in terms of a of airports, airlines and flights that were monitored throughout that period of the 22nd january— 12th that were monitored throughout that period of the 22ndjanuary—12th of march, in terms of publishing the advice, that the honourable lady refers specifically to the home office i will absolutely ensure that the select committee receives that. and in terms of the number of incoming passengers, madam deputy speaker, it is well known and documented through air passenger data, that does not include ports, which are separate, but the number of passengers travelling and arriving to the united kingdom has been at an all—time low and has com pletely been at an all—time low and has completely fallen off. that is something we can't predict for the next three weeks, but working with public transport in particular we will collect that information and make that public. the introduction ofa1li make that public. the introduction of a 1k day quarantine is a very blunt tool with many downsides and consequences and effectively grounds the aviation industry. with my right honourable friend agree that well using this blunt tool we should move as quickly as possible to a precise and targeted approach based on science and international safety standards that will protect passengers, the public and staff working in the airlines, the airports and public transport, and in doing so enable planes to fly again saving livelihoods and businesses while keeping the public safe. my honourable friend makes an important point. i would like to pay tribute to the aviation sector and industry. they are dynamic and innovative. when we look at the work they have done over decades when it comes to keeping the public safe when it comes to aviation travel, they have been a world leader. that is exactly what we want to do in terms of the work we undertake with them. this is an international crisis. now one person or organisation has a bespoke way of working throughout this crisis for the aviation sector. my final point on this, is of course, planes are still flying and goods are coming into united kingdom. i have made the point about exports. this is still very important for the aviation sector, the freight sector in particular and that is very important to the health of our economy but also the way we can continue to innovate. christine jardine. thank you very much, madam deputy speaker. the home secretary has made much of the scientific advice that, earlier in the pandemic, it was clear that such measures would have made little difference. would the secretary of state acknowledge that, as we have an acknowledged death toll approaching 50,000 people, that perhaps that little difference might have been significant to a lot of people in this country, at that time? does she now regret not making that little difference, and could she please answer my right honourable friend was my question when he asks if that advice and the advice she refers to today both came from sage? the honourable lady will be very well aware that notjust working with sage but representatives of sage in government departments across government, that is the scientific advice that we as ministers are guided by, and that is important to consider both in terms of the entire period from january to march and the enhanced measures that were taken at the border, and i think madam deputy speaker, it is important to recall and be mindful of the enhanced public health protection measures that were undertaken and had those measures not been put in place the severity of what could have followed could have been even more damaging that we have seen over recent months. i welcome the introduction of self regulating for those arriving in the uk. i want to do all that i can to protect rural mid wales from a second spike in the virus, but what discussions has my right honourable friend had with the welsh government to ensure that this can be enforced with a four nations approach? my honourable friend is absolutely right and i pay tribute to the devolved administrations. i knew one of the questions i was asked about the time period is to when this was announced with these measures coming into place, much of this has been complicated because of the different approach in terms of the different approach in terms of the powers that are devolved around enforcement in particular, so the devolved administrations have their own regulations around enforcement, but we have had constant contact, and discussion, across the four nations with the devolved administrations from the outset, and of course, that will continue. this isn't just about tourism and business, it is also about people. a constituent has his eight—year—old son living in germany and his ex—wife had joint custody and he had arranged to stay with his son, dyla n, arranged to stay with his son, dylan, forfour arranged to stay with his son, dylan, for four days, the arranged to stay with his son, dylan, forfour days, the pandemic has torn apart families across the nation but it is an international problem too, so can home secretary ensure that such difficult cases are prioritise? this is such a difficult time for everybody across the world. we have all been split apart from family, friends and loved ones. and we wa nt family, friends and loved ones. and we want to ensure that we can prioritise key cases, as we move forward , prioritise key cases, as we move forward, with changes to regulations as well, and we will keep this under review, how we can do our utmost to unite friends, family and loved ones again. can i welcome the work that is being done on air bridges can and cani is being done on air bridges can and can i urge the secretary of state to suspend this blanket quarantine requirement to givejust suspend this blanket quarantine requirement to give just a few more weeks to get those safe air corridors in place so that we can save jobs corridors in place so that we can savejobs in aviation, and let families go on their summer breaks in the sun? i thank my right honourable friend for her question. there are some important points in terms of how collectively we can work with the travel sector, not just aviation, but across every single carrier, whether it is coaches, trains, ferries as well, they are all part of the health and well—being of the travel sector and the travel economy, and of course we wa nt to the travel economy, and of course we want to work with everybody on this. the fact of the matter is that this is complicated. we require bilateral agreements with countries as well which is exactly what the fco is working on and this is a cross government effort to ensure that we can get our country moving again but also do the right thing in terms of keeping the public safe. at the start of this crisis i had bought a people writing to me saying that they had no reverie and constituents saying they had come back from northern italy and spain without being stopped at all at the border. it was a completely bungled response at the beginning. and now that the horse has bolted and our recovery is one of the worst in europe and our death rates are the second worst in the world, the government is now embarrassed and trying to close that stable, but i'm afraid it is too late, so, to build any sort of trust, will the secretary of state publish the advice that she has on this matter, before she destroys our hospitality sector? i would say to the honourable gentleman that it is not my intention to destroy any sector of the country or economy and thatis sector of the country or economy and that is a gross distortion of the comments and remarks i've made and my second point is i would refer the honourable gentleman to the comments i've made around scientific advice. let's pull away from that. the home secretary announcing details of forcing people into quarantine for 14 forcing people into quarantine for 1a days when they arrive in the uk. probably worth explaining what she says will happen. arrivals will be required to fill in a contact locator film, which will include details of where you will cache locator form. where you will be isolating and how you can be contacted. border force isolating and how you can be contacted. borderforce will isolating and how you can be contacted. border force will be at the forefront of enforcing this. passengers will require a receipt either printed or on their phone to prove that they have completed the form. borderforce will prove that they have completed the form. border force will undertake spot checks at the border and may refuse entry to nonresident nationals who refused to comply and they will have the power to impose a £100 fixed penalty notice to those who don't comply at that stage. she also said data collected will be used by public health england, which will undertake checks to ensure people understand and follow the rules, and the home secretary said that if public health england has reason to believe somebody is not following the law as they should be, they will inform the police, and a breach of self isolation could result in a £1000 fixed penalty notice in england, or indeed potential prosecution. that is a situation that will be under review and as you heard from teresa villas, mp, some do quiet —— disquiet, urging herto mp, some do quiet —— disquiet, urging her to reconsider and weighting so—called air bridges, which are unlikely until 28th of june when the first review of this quarantine will be brought in. let's get more reaction to this. iain watson is our political correspondent waiting patiently for me. iain, it pretty much was as build. pretty much, the extent of opposition on the conservative benches what struck me. certainly the quarantine measures as trailed will be introduced next week. this will be introduced next week. this will be introduced next week. this will be a blanket quarantine. we will be a blanket quarantine. we will then get people expected to self—isolate for 1h days when they come to britain, either as british residents or as visitors, having to fill out forms in advance, and the policy will be reviewed week beginning 28th ofjune, so that is what was expected. although there has been some criticism across westminster about the way the policy is being introduced, i think the extent of it as we say from the conservative benches perhaps took me by surprise. liam fox they are, of course a medical doctor, saying the government was indulging in mental gymnastics over this policy because they did not impose it when there is a threat from the virus, now imposing it on countries which have a lower infection rate than the united kingdom. steve bryant, another conservative mp raising serious questions as well about what this would mean for southampton airport near his constituency, and earlier, even before priti patel stood up actually, one of her predecessors as home secretary, former prime minister theresa may asking questions of the aviation minister at the time, saying we should really be concentrating on building world leading testing of people suffering potentially from coronavirus who are coming into the country, rather than this blanket quarantine policy she said. there will be no global britain if there is no aviation industry, she said. i think the extent of the opposition there is interesting, and again, just as a matter of interest, but again from what i am picking up around westminster, there does seem to bea around westminster, there does seem to be a bit ofa around westminster, there does seem to be a bit of a blame game being undertaken behind the scenes and beneath the radar, where some people are suggesting this policy was very much driven by number ten, by the cabinet office, rather than by the home office or the department for transport. that said, it will go ahead at the moment, and it seems to me that from what has been pushed for on the labour benches, and indeed from some conservatives too, was firstly a demand to see these scientific evidence on which the policy is based, and secondly to do more work on the so—called air bridges or air corridors, effectively ways around this, that might allow people to go on holiday this summer. yes, but not much wiggle room politically, priti patel saying very firmly that starts on monday. barring a very substantial u—turn, that's what's going to happen. what labour was saying in response, the shadow home secretary, was basically that the government in his view were indulging in a three—week fudge in order to save face. this would be introduced and then potentially relaxed on 28th of june. certainly the signals from inside government don't necessarily suggest that is the case and it will go ahead as you say from next week, and the air bridges people are talking about will not be constructed in that time. it will start as a blanket ban. there are also lots of other concerns about it as well which haven't yet been aired in the debate, but that is about enforcement. so priti patel suggesting the border force would be the first line of defence, making sure people were told the authorities where they are intending to self—isolate. also questions about how and when police would intervene, when public health england might call the police if they suspected people when following they suspected people when following the guidance, how frequent there would be spot checks to make sure people were holing up for 1h days once they come to this country, not ignoring it entirely as michael o'leary from ryanair suggests they will. let's catch up with the weather forecast. with barely a drop of rain volley across parts of england for the whole month of may, this is coming is welcome news, it is cloudy with epics of rain pushing its way steadily south and east. behind it, a bright and breezy affair. that is how we close out the day in scotland and northern ireland. that weather front will weaken as it moves its way to east anglia and the south—east corner of the night. we keep quite a lot of cloud as well. temperatures holding up between six and 12 celsius. we set off tomorrow morning on another grey note. the cloud shall break. we should see some scattered showers going into the afternoon. lighter winds, some scattered showers going into the afternoon. lighterwinds, but for me now direction so still those temperatures are subdued in comparison to what we have been used to of late. highest values between nine and 18 celsius. it looks as though friday will see a more widespread sharper showers are developing and if winds will start to pick up through the latter stages of the day. leading to a blustery, showery weekend and cooler for all. hello, this is bbc news with simon mccoy. the headlines: a loss of public trust and confidence — the labour leader criticises borisjohnson over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic. the pm tells keir starmer the country doesn't want politicians arguing. defying a curfew — thousands demonstrate, mainly peacefully, across the us for an eighth night following the death of george floyd in police custody. meanwhile, demonstrations are also taking place in the uk — this is the scene earlier at hyde park in central london. two weeks' quarantine — that's what the government wants all travellers to face as they come into the uk from monday. back to school for the last few weeks of the summer term — schools in wales will begin a limited return from the 29thjune. sport now. and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's sarah mulkerrins. good afternoon. three west indies players have chosen not to travel to england for the three—test series next month. batsmen darren bravo and and shimron hetmyer, and the all—rounder keemo paul, have opted out due to coronavirus fears. jason holder will captain the side , leading a squad of 1a players and 11 reserves. they arrive next tuesday and they'll be based at old trafford for the initial quarantine and training, before the first test in southampton starts on the 8th ofjuly. both venues are bio—secure and the matches will be played without spectators. lewis hamilton says he is "completely overcome with rage" at events in the usa, following the death of george floyd. he's issued a statement, saying "this past week has been so dark. i have failed to keep hold of my emotions". meanwhile, the former manchester city and qpr defender nedum onuoha has told the bbc he doesn't feel 100% safe in the us, as a black man. he now plays for real salt lake in the american mls. in the uk, i am more comfortable because i know if something happens, it probably will not be deadly, but because over here because of their rights and stuff like that, it is more common that some altercations become more deadly and i am always a very, very become more deadly and i am always a very, very aware become more deadly and i am always a very, very aware of that has a grand. iam very, very aware of that has a grand. i am comfortable playing in the state of utah, it is a great state, but when it comes to any type of brutality from the police, if they read the wrong way, it is like my life could be taken and i feel that every single day. manchester city have reminded their midfielder phil foden of his responsibilities after he appeared to break social distancing guidelines by playing football on the beach. he was pictured having a kickabout and having his photo taken with fans at the weekend. even though premier league players are back in contact training with their clubs, they've been told to stick to government rules at all other times — they say people can take part in sport as long as they stay two metres away from others. the last time millwall played in the championship, matt smith scored a hat—trick inside 13 minutes, as they beat nottingham forest. that was nearly three months ago, but they've now been given a potential restart date of the 20th ofjune. matches will be behind closed doors and smith says playing without a crowd will have a real impact on millwall in particular. huge loss for us. it is no secret our home form has been incredible this season. i think we would be out there right at the top of the division in terms of home form. and the fans are a big, big reason and they create and incredibly hostile atmosphere for any away team. i have been there before and it is not the away game any player wants to play at. as a home side, we had taken full advantage of that. we've been talking a lot about athletes struggling to keep up with their training during the lockdown. libby clegg has won two paralympic gold medals as a blind sprinter, but due to social distancing rules, she now can't run while attached to her training partner. obviously we have quite a lot of protocol in place we have to do welfare checks before we can even come to the track and then we need to check our temperature, but when we get there, obviously i normally run with a guide runner and to me at the moment, it is really difficult. there are only a few people are laid on the track at once and i think at the moment it is a maximum of eight people, that includes athletes and coaches. if i am running with my guide runner, we have to run apart from one another so we're trying to give me verbal cues, rather than physical ones, it is quite hard. that's all the sport for now. thank you very much for that. the treasury select committee is taking evidence from former chancellors alistair darling, george osborne and philip hammond on the economic impact of coronavirus — let's listen in to that. output begins tourism, that we make sure that the effective demand is there and that is when the chancellor want to look at measures to support demand. fill it, thank you. cani to support demand. fill it, thank you. can i just to support demand. fill it, thank you. can ijust go back to you, george, 42nd. ithink you. can ijust go back to you, george, 42nd. i think we are all agreed that a major driver of this is what happens on the health front, when we'll be get a vaccine and when we go back to near normal? at whatever point it arrives, what are the main levers that you think the government should be pulling here in terms of shedding sketch make ensuring a good recovery, particularly around the issue of jobs where, clearly any financial crisis, inevitably whatever happens it is going to lead to a major element of what is going on here. it is going to lead to a major element of what is going on herelj think the central challenge over the next year, if you look at the short to medium term, is how do you withdraw some of the very necessary and, in my case, fully supported schemes to have kept people in work and businesses afloat during the crisis. because... this is a very ha rd crisis. because... this is a very hard judgment that the government has to make. the furlough scheme has been absolutely essential for keeping people in work who would otherwise be unemployed and many people on a fellow are going to go back to theirjobs when the re sta u ra nt back to theirjobs when the restaurant reopens, you know, the job will be theirjobs when the re sta u ra nt job will be theirjobs when the restaurant reopened, you know, the job will be there —— furlough are going to go back to theirjobs. but we have to be honest and say that quite a lot of those businesses will not come back, the restaurant may not come back, the restaurant may not need as many staff as it did, and, indeed, frankly, quite a lot of businesses have used the furlough for a permit efficiency cut —— permanent efficiency cut, as business would put it and sort of trapping people on a scheme that is generous, to them in the short term, but actually prevents them re—entering the labour force to get any newjob that they need. it is potentially very, very damaging. i think the withdrawal of the furlough is going to be difficult and important for employment in the short term. and, at the same time, as we come us, some of these loans to businesses that are never coming backis to businesses that are never coming back is going to become an issue. essentially keeping zombie companies on life support. again, that is not an issue for right now because we are right in the middle of the crisis and we do not know exactly what shape society is going to look like when the vaccines are coming. government can do a huge amount to create good deployment schemes, but let's be honest, governance of all colours since the second world war have not done terribly well at getting structurally unemployed people, people structurally unemployed back to work. they have of the be onto various benefits. and it is not always called unemployment benefit, but that is in practice what has happened. in the last 50 years. so getting a short—term shout, with people back into the labour market, making sure that they are not out for a long time sitting ona are not out for a long time sitting on a person like unemployment benefit is critical. in the second thing, i would say this, is that you then have to give business the confidence that the future is going to bea confidence that the future is going to be a friendly one and that, therefore, they will take the risk of taking people on. you need the private sector, ultimately, to have the confidence to go on and employ again. we will pull away from that. the former chancellor, george osborne giving evidence there. we will keep an eye on that select committee. there is another health select committee hearing that we will want to hear from select committee hearing that we will want to hearfrom later on. i wa nt to ta ke will want to hearfrom later on. i want to take you to hyde park in central london. as we have been reporting, thousands attending a demonstration, one of many demonstrations around the world in protest at the police behaviour and the killing of the black civilian in minneapolis, george floyd, who has been the subject of an unusual statement from the national police chiefs council in the uk per se, we stand all those across the globe who are appalled and horrified by the way that george floyd lost his life, justice and should follow. as i say, a highly unusual statement from them. as you can see, in his live pictures, thousands of people attending the protest which has been organised by the black lives matter campaign group. organisers have asked people to spread their arms out to maintain a two metre distance from each other as crowds were heard to chant, the uk is not innocent. it has been good—natu red to chant, the uk is not innocent. it has been good—natured and peaceful and whilst some traffic disruption in central london, it is a protest, one of many around the world, following that death eight days ago in the united states. it nets a protest in the united states following that. some of that violent —— eight nights. last night was less so as protests continue. one police officer has been charged with third—degree murder and the authorities are under pressure to charge other officers at the scene. as you see there, uk police attending that demonstration and marching along side them down park lane in central london. we will keep an eye on that. as i say, thousands of people already attending a protest march. in the united states, tens of thousands of people have demonstrated — mainly peacefully — across the united states for an eighth night following the killing of african—american george floyd in police custody. many defied curfews in several cities, imposed after violence and looting in some districts on monday night. here, chief constables from across the uk have issued a joint statement saying they "stand alongside all those across the globe who are appalled and horrified by the way george floyd lost his life". our diplomatic correspondent james robbins reports. in portland, oregon, thousands of protesters lay on the ground, hands behind their backs, for the almost nine minutes george floyd, african american, was pinned down with a white policeman's knee on his neck, begging to be allowed to breathe, until he could not. it was a powerful reminder to america and the world what this is all about. with night—time curfews in place, police used tear gas to break up remaining crowds, but violence seems to have —— but violence across the country seems to have lessened from all quarters. in washington, the symbolism was equally powerful, the national guard deployed on the steps of lincoln memorial to confront a peaceful protest. it ended before the 7pm curfew. it was after night fall when those still on the street were tear gassed close to the white house, where president trump is accused of dividing the nation more and more each day. a whole series of violent attacks on the media are one feature of the past week. a bbc cameraman charged by a policeman. a cnn reporter arrested live on air. an australian cameraman punched by a riot policeman. a german reporter shot at by police with a pellet gun. to what extend could president trump's war on journalists be a factor? now he has tweeted... last friday, this journalist was hit by a plastic bullet. —— in minneapolis last friday, this journalist was hit by an classic billet in the eye. —— plastic bullet. the president is saying that journalists are the problem. you know, a lot of people believe that, and a lot of people do trust him. the family of george floyd are determined to keep the focus on justice. the mother of their six—year—old daughter says he was a good father, and provided for them. he will never see her grow up, graduate... he will never walk her down the aisle. near the spot where he was killed, in your portrait of george floyd has been added to the tributes. his death now a symbol of centuries' old political and racial divides, which america still seems far from resolving. coronavirus has forced all of us to make difficult decisions. but imagine choosing to leave your family behind and going to live at work. staff desperate to keep coronavirus out of a care home in cheddar in somerset did just that — and they've now spent 50 nights away from their loved ones, as fiona lamdin reports. locked in and locked down. this team have been inside for 50 days, protecting the 2a residents who live here at this care home in somerset. we believe that we have saved the lives of residents. we have seen what happened at local care homes and so far we believe we've kept them alive. but it comes at a cost. chris hasn't been home to see his wife or four—year—old daughterfor months. happy good morning, daddy, i miss you so much. i don't think we thought we would even get through a couple of weeks, it was really tough, knowing that we were going to be away from our families. being away from the four—year—old, has got harder and harder as time's gone on. tina's a care assistant. we are doing sort of long shifts, 12—hour shifts. it's long and it's hard going, but when you see their faces, you know, when they're happy and thanking you and everything, it just makes everything all worthwhile. happy anniversary you two! thank you very much. before lockdown, the longest she'd spent away from her husband was five nights. here we are now, 50 days. came in on the tuesday, it was my husband's birthday on the saturday, so that was the another milestone that i missed and then obviously three weeks later it was our wedding anniversary. and how many years is that? 26. for the last two months, she's been sleeping in the stock room. so we've got no washing facilities. we've just got a ladies down the corridor, which is our bathroom and our toilet. so we have a little wash in the sink! you haven't got a shower? no. but it's notjust the personal cost, having your staff to stay comes at a price. it's cost us around around about £64,000 in the last eight weeks. we've got empty rooms, so the staff can live in. we had to feed the staff, we've had to water the staff and we pay the staff an uplift for the huge sacrifice they're making. hello! hello, mum. hello! this is the first time 100—year—old barbara has seen herfamily in three months. nice to see you. oh, it's just amazing. with the sacrifice they have made and the sacrificed their own families to look after our family. with the virus looking like it's yet to reach its peak here, chris and his team say they plan to stay locked in for many more weeks. fiona lamdin, bbc news, cheddar. students may be forced to live and study in the same small group — or ‘bubble' — when uk university campuses re—open in the autumn. university leaders have been setting out proposal are setting out proposals for a socially distanced student life — including virtual freshers' weeks and online lectures. our education correspondent dan johnson reports. i'm lucy. i am studying maths, physics, design and music. and i would like to study product design at brunel university in london. i am akash, i'm studying maths, economics and business, and i am trying to study accounting and finance at nottingham. i am oliver, i am studying design, history and drama, and i am hoping to study acting at guildford. ambitions, plans, hopes and dreams — all disorientated by coronavirus. so these loughborough a—level students are trying to work out what university life will be like. they are planning on keeping the campus open, that is the most important thing for me, is just to have the independence that you get when you go to uni. tuition fees are staying the same, it is a lot of money to pay for not getting the full experience and just doing stuff from home. if you are paying over nine grand, i think universities are doing what they can to make it work. here is one vision of the future of learning. bolton university is installing temperature scanners and will ask everyone to wear a mask. students pay for going to university and attending, and we're going to provide them that experience. we were said to be out of step at the beginning of this, but there is a number now following us in the sector. it is good to be have bolton at the front of this. but for us it is about giving the best value for students, student experience is the number one thing for us, and this is going to be best student experience in a covid—secure environment. this is a step too far for many others, who are considering keeping students in protective bubbles, planning virtual freshers weeks planning virtual freshers' weeks and moving lectures online. i think it is an opportunity for us to rethink how we can use the digital world to best advantage. there are some wonderful examples of digital education now, really exciting. if i am honest, it is something i have been wanting to do for a long time. fees are not expected to change, but there are major concerns about university income, especially with lower numbers of overseas students. clearly, because of the covid—19, it might have some impact, some international students might not choose to come this year, but financially the whole university sector at the moment requires income from industry, international students to support research activity. there is still lots to work out ahead of the new term, and students face making decisions that will define the next phase of their lives in such an uncertain time. they're calling it the ‘lockdown effect‘ — a quarter of people who had no plans to move before the lockdown are now looking for a new home. the property website rightmove has just had its busiest day on record with more than six million visits to its listings. much of the interest is from people who've been working from home — and now want to get out of the cities, near their offices — and into the country. phil mackie has more. moving in. after lying dormant during lockdown, the housing market is coming back to life, and it is busier than expected. i have got people to quote every day in the next couple of weeks, so it is coming back from being completely dead. hopefully get a good rush, but that is keeping fingers crossed, but we'lljust have to wait and see. the more rural the location, the more of a hotspot it has become. as people have got used to working from home, they are looking to move away from the big cities. in shropshire, demand is high. this estate agent has been twice as busy as normal since restrictions were lifted. the market has gone absolutely ballistic, the market is crazy with the pent—up demand that we have built all the way through, with people queueing to view, registering to view. as soon as the government made the announcement, our phonesjust went into meltdown. the boom, caused by the easing of lockdown, may only be temporary, but they think that more people are now looking to move out of the big cities to places like shrewsbury, which might mean that the property market here is more buoyant for longer. but there is still a great deal of uncertainty. this could just be down to pent—up demand, a bit like a dam being burst, and estate agents enquiries may dry up just as quickly. what we cannot predict is what effect the impending recession will have on employment, and in certain areas that might be quite acute. i had ihada i had a tiny little postage stamp garden. christine james has left the isle of dogs in london and will move into her new home in shrewsbury as soon she can. but look around, it is really beautiful. and there are lots of other placesjust as nice, but in london you are all squashed in, you are always in a crowd, people get aggressive on the underground, it is hot and sticky in the summer, and you hate to think what it will be like this year. post—lockdown, leaving the big cities could be the next big thing. but economic uncertainty might also see this sudden surge in interest vanish with the fine weather. now it's time for a look at the weather. change of month and a change of the weather. what a difference a day makes. there are some cloud in scotland, but for the majority of us blue skies, sunshine and heat the dominant feature. but today, that cloud has pushed its way steadily said, some brighter skies behind, but garfield winds and underneath the majority of the cloud, we have got some rain. a welcome rain, you may be shouting at me, but it is pushing its way steadily south and east, and unfortunately going to weaken. a change of wind direction, the cloud and rain around, temperatures are a good 10 degrees down on where they were yesterday. you really will notice the difference with the feel of the weather over the coming days. rain will push its way into east anglia and the south—east. it will bring a little bit of light rain to quench the thirst of the gardens, but nowhere near enough and behind it, we keep a fair amount of cloud through the night. temperatures will hold up, sitting at around six to 12 celsius. we set off tomorrow on a grey not, but as we go through the day, the cloud should break and allow for some sunny spells to come through. and a scattering of showers. slightly lighter winds, coming from another direction, so a cooler source, temperatures are struggling in pads to of late. highest values by the middle of the afternoon picking at 92 18 celsius. shower is going to pep up again on thursday. heady, more widespread, merging togetherfor thursday. heady, more widespread, merging together for longer spells of rain. almost any man could catch with shower, favoured dry spot through wales and south—west england —— almost anywhere could catch a shower. temperatures are still subduedin shower. temperatures are still subdued in comparison to a mate. we have to factor in the wind strength, which will be picking up through day on friday. particularly to the far north—west as we go through friday night and into the start of the weekend, across north—west have for the uk, we could see gales, gusts, perhaps of around 60 mph, and with trees in full leaf now, that could have an impact. low pressure with us for the weekend, a real contrast to last weekend. it is going to stay blustery at times, with plenty of sharp showers and a noticeable difference to the feel of the weather. that is it, take care. this is bbc news, i'm simon mccoy. the headlines... a loss of public trust and confidence — the labour leader criticises borisjohnson over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic. the pm tells sir keir the country doesn't want politicians arguing. i really do not see the purpose of these endless attacks on public, on public trust and confidence, when what we are trying to do, and i think what the public want to hearfrom politicians across all parties is our clear message about how to defeat this virus. the prime minister's confusing scrutiny for attacks. i have supported the government openly, and i have taken criticism for it, but, boy, he makes it difficult to support this government. defying a curfew — thousands demonstrate, mainly peacefully, across the us, for an eighth night, following the death of george floyd in police custody. meanwhile, demonstrations are also taking place in the uk — this is the scene in central london. two weeks' quarantine — that's what the government wants all travellers to face as they come into the uk, from monday. back to school for the last few weeks of the summer term — schools in wales will begin a limited return from 29thjune. the prime minister has said he takes full responsibility for the government's handling of the coronavirus crisis, after labour leader sir keir starmer told him to get a grip of the country's response to the pandemic. sir keir said the government was losing the public‘s trust and confidence at a vital period in the fight against the virus. in a testy prime minister's questions, the labour leader also criticised the government's handling of the test and trace system in england. our political correspondent helen catt reports. parliament looks and feels different these days. have you got a grip, prime minister? the prime minister heading notjust into a building that's changed, as the country starts to unlock, but to face a leader of the opposition who has changed, too. to a harder tone. the telegraph reports the prime minister has decided to take direct control of the government's response to the virus. so, an obvious question to the prime minister, who has been in direct control up to now? i take full responsibility for everything the government has been doing in tackling coronavirus, and i'm proud of our record. what the country would like to hear from him is more signs of co—operation in that endeavour. he asked for a sign of co—operation, a fair challenge. i wrote to him, as he knows, in confidence, two weeks ago, to ask if i could help build a consensus for getting children back to school. i did it privately, because i didn't want to make a lot of it. he hasn't replied. i took the trouble to ring him up, and we had a long conversation, in which i briefed the honourable gentleman about the steps we were taking. he didn't offer any dissent at that stage, and endorsed our approach. i think he should continue to endorse it. the prime minister's confusing scrutiny for attacks. i have supported the government openly, and taken criticism for it, but, boy, he makes it difficult to support this government. the political ceasefire, it seems, is over. not least on the government's test and trace programme. two weeks ago, the prime minister promised that we will have a test, track and trace operation that will be world—beating, and, yes, it will be in place by 1stjune. but it isn't. a critical element, the ability of local authorities to respond to local spikes, is missing. i must say, i really do not see the purpose of his endless attacks on public trust and confidence, when what we are trying to do, and what the public want to hear from politicians, across all parties, is our clear messages about how to defeat this virus. test and trace is a vital tool, and contrary to what he says, actually, we did by the end of may get up to 100,000 tests a day. labour has not said what it would do differently but it sent a clear signal it will be holding mrjohnson personally responsible. that can only increase the pressure as he moved into the next phase of getting the country back towards normal. helen cat, bbc news, westminster. the home secretary priti patel has confirmed that new quarantine rules for people arriving in the uk from overseas will come into force on monday. most people entering the uk will be told to isolate for two weeks and will be required to fill in a "contact locator form", with details on where they will isolate and how they can be contacted. our transport correspondent tom burridge reports. warning systems will be in place in portugal this summer to help tourists avoid crowded beaches. the portuguese government says british holiday—makers are very welcome. but from monday, people arriving back into the uk will have to self—isolate for two weeks. quarantine is an enemy of tourism. portugal's foreign minister says his government is negotiating with with the uk, so byjuly, people travelling between the two countries might not have to go into quarantine. if it was prolonged, of course, the holidays of british people and also of portuguese people living in the united kingdom, i think portugal would be severely damaged. airports — pretty empty now — warned the quarantine will put people off travelling over the summer. some people say they will go on holiday, regardless. i booked the holiday only a couple of weeks ago, i'm keen to leave the country and we are going to montenegro, which is a very safe place to be, as we speak, and if i have to quarantine when i come home, iwill. today, still a fraction of usual traffic in and out of heathrow. the airport's boss called the quarantine rules an existential threat for the travel sector. but he revealed new details about how it would work. my understanding is that there will be spot checks within the immigration area, which is where the border force officers will check that people have filled out their form, and it is a legitimate one, and there will be a triage for the very few people who will be exempted, which would allow them to come in without quarantine. but despite anger from airlines, a near—blanket quarantine will take effect on monday. the prime minister said it will help control the virus. these measures are backed by science and are essential to save lives. we know it will present problems for the tourism industry but that is why we have an precedented package of support, the most comments are in the world, for employees and business. for travel to pick up, agreements with countries with low infection rates — so people don't have to self—isolate — will be vital. otherwise, after a disastrous spring, travel companies could face a catastrophic summer. tom burridge, bbc news. we can speak now to our political correspondent iain watson. it is not just it is notjust travel companies that are angry about this. apparently not, simon. ithink are angry about this. apparently not, simon. i think what was surprising was in the socially distance chamber at westminster, just how many conservative mps were very angry about this, too. we expected labour to be quite critical. they said this is some kind of fudge by the government, but actually conservative mp after conservative mps stood up and asked the home secretary pretty searching questions about this. for example, steve brian, who represents winchester, many of his constituents working southampton airport and are worried about their jobs. working southampton airport and are worried about theirjobs. he also said this was the right policy at the wrong time, and that view was echoed by many other mp5 too. asking why on earth was there no policy like this when many people were coming in from italy and spreading the infection. labour mp yvette cooper estimated at around 10,000 people came into the country when there were no measures like this at all. liam fox of course a medical doctor, wondering what the logic was of imposing a policy on other countries when they had lower infection rates than us. why not let them into this country? we also had a range of people including the chair of the 1922 backbench committee questioning the logic of this as well, and others have talked about the dangers to jobs, tourism and the aviation industry, including former cabinet ministers, such as theresa villiers, and the former prime minister theresa may said she was worried about this as well, we should be getting international standard health testing in place to prevent the quarantining having to ta ke prevent the quarantining having to take place at all. but her worry was they would not be a global britain if there was no industry left. it was pretty much critical. a couple of supportive voices on the back benches from the conservatives. another foreign minister though said the credibility of the policy is hanging bya the credibility of the policy is hanging by a thread. one thing i should say, briefly, what downing street and others would point out is that the policy does seem to be popular, according to polling, with the wider public. but my goodness it took a pasting here at westminster. a bit ofa took a pasting here at westminster. a bit of a testy prime minister's questions, change of mood if you like, after weeks of consensus, it would appear the gloves are coming off? that's right, certainly much more titchy than i have seen any previous encounter between keir starmer and boris johnson and previous encounter between keir starmer and borisjohnson and before that between keir starmer and dominic raab. usually the tone was pretty restrained from keir starmer. even the prime minister seem to get very, very frustrated about the line of questioning from keir starmer, talking about endless attacks, asking keir starmer to be much more corroborative. —— cooperative. one thing that is concerning labour, is the public health response by the government, but also its handling of the crisis, as they would see it. getting frustrated with the prime minister himself. keir starmer produced this letter, which we now have, he sent it out publicly as well, saying this is a measure of the government's lack of cooperation with the opposition come because he had written this letter on the 18th of may asking for a one—to—one meeting with borisjohnson, and between the shadow education secretary and education secretary to discuss the reopening of schools, and he didn't even get a reply to that letter. downing street say they talked about the issue on the telephone. labour say, yes, that that was a call with all opposition leaders, it wasn't one—to—one, we haven't really spoken since the end of april. so you can see the personal relationship i think between the two men is becoming a lot more strained. but i think also strategically what labour were trying to achieve was to raise some concerns about the speed of the easing of the lockdown, so that if things do end up going wrong in three orfour things do end up going wrong in three or four weeks' time, they will come back and try to make sure the responsibility is not something shared across westminster, but laid at the door of number ten. thank you very much, iain watson in westminster. hundreds of people have gathered in hyde park in central london as protests over the killing of of george floyd in us police custody continue. these are the live pictures of the protesters marching towards victoria. we are looking north, hyde park corner at the bottom of your screen, park lane at the top. the protest is now heading towards victoria towards the bottom right of your screen, buckingham palace, for those of you who know the area. that protest has been going on since 1pm. with protesters chanting no justice, been going on since 1pm. with protesters chanting nojustice, no peace, and many wearing face masks and dressed in red. this all coming as uk chief constable say they stand all those appalled and horrified by the way mr floyd died. they have stressed that while the right to lawful protest is a key part of any democracy, coronavirus remains a deadly disease. many protesters being asked to put both arms out as they arrived to ensure social distancing. as you can see, it is fairly spaced out a protest, as those protesters head towards victoria, and then to westminster. it is organised by the campaign group, black lives matter. it has been peaceful, and several police officers have been seen marching alongside, as they keep an eye on events there. our reporter chi chi izundu was with the protesters earlier. police have urged people if they wa nt to police have urged people if they want to make their voices heard, they should remember the coronavirus restrictions are still in place, so organisers ask people to walk into this park with their arms spread out wide to maintain a two metre distance socially. but the black lives matter group say it is not much different from what is going on in the uk, america. they say there area in the uk, america. they say there are a whole host of different issues which uk black communities are undergoing, and they are disgusted by the death of george floyd. they plan to go from here, much to victoria station where they feel a railway worker who died with covid—19 after being spat at at work is not justice, and covid—19 after being spat at at work is notjustice, and they want to have a protest to acknowledge that a disproportionate amount of black people in the united kingdom face racism. in the united states, tens of thousands of people have demonstrated, mainly peacefully, for an eighth night, following the killing of african—american george floyd in police custody. many defied curfews in several cities, imposed after violence and looting in some districts on monday night. here, chief constables from across the uk have issued a joint statement saying they "stand alongside all those across the globe who are appalled and horrified by the way george floyd lost his life". our diplomatic correspondent james robbins reports. in portland, oregon, thousands of protesters lay on the ground, hands behind their backs, for the almost nine minutes george floyd, african—american, was pinned down with a white policeman's knee on his neck, begging to be allowed to breathe, until he could not. it was a powerful reminder to america and the world what this is all about. with night—time curfews in place, police used tear gas to break up remaining crowds, but violence seems to have lessened from all quarters. in washington, the symbolism was equally powerful, the national guard deployed on the steps of lincoln memorial to confront a peaceful protest. it ended before the 7pm curfew. it was after night fall when those still on the street were tear—gassed close to the white house, where president trump is accused of dividing the nation more and more each day. a whole series of violent attacks on the media are one feature of the past week. a bbc cameraman charged down by a policeman. a cnn reporter arrested live on air. and an australian cameraman punched by a policeman. a german reporter shot at by police with a pellet gun. to what extend could president trump's war on journalists be a factor? last friday, this journalist was hit by a plastic bullet. this is part of our political moment as well where the president is out there saying thatjournalists are there saying thatjournalists are the problem. you know, a lot of people believe that, and a lot of people do trust in the authority that we have. the family of george floyd are determined to keep the focus on justice. the mother of their six—year—old daughter says he was a good father, and provided for them. he will never see her grow up, graduate. he will never walk her down the aisle. near the spot where he was killed, a new portrait of george floyd has been added to the tributes, his death now a symbol of centuries' old divides, which america still seems far from resolving. the headlines on bbc news. a loss of public trust and confidence — the labour leader criticises borisjohnson over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic. the pm tells sir keir the country doesn't want politicians arguing. defying a curfew — thousands demonstrate — mainly peacefully — across the us for an eighth night following the death of george floyd in police custody. two weeks' quarantine — that's what the government wants all travellers to face as they come into the uk — from monday. the welsh education minister kirsty williams announced today that all schools in wales will reopen on 29th june. williams said schools will be open to pupils from all year groups — but for limited periods during the week, with restrictions on pupil numbers. in each school, there will be a phased approach. year groups will be split into cohorts with staggered starts, lessons and breaks, meaning at the most, the very most, a third of pupils will be present at any one time. we will see much smaller classes, providing secure, dedicated time with teachers and classmates, and this time will also include online and personalised classroom experiences, which will prepare children and their teachers for a similar experience in september. next week, we will publish operational guidance to support schools and further and higher education, and this will include information on managing their facilities, including buildings, resources , facilities, including buildings, resources, cleaning and transport. let's now speak to david evans from the neu cymru teaching union. thank you very much for your time this afternoon. do you welcome this? i most certainly do not, no. we think it is too much and it is too soon. we have been in discussions with the welsh government ever since lockdown started, and the school is actually closed, and we have been dealing with them in a very positive manner. we have had some discussions with regard to the reopening of schools, but we certainly didn't envisage the minister announcing today that there will be a reopening of classes for all pupils with effect from 29th ofjune. the logistical problems and the concerns with regards to health and safety are massive in this regard. obviously, what we want to see is the scientific and medical advice that relates to this. i have in fact seen a report that was published today by the technical advisory, the welsh arm of sage, and that certainly doesn't suggest we are able to open schools at this time. the welsh government says they will be split into groups, staggered sta rts be split into groups, staggered starts for lessons and breaks. what are you advising your members, then? there is obviously going to be a lot of discussions between now and 29th of discussions between now and 29th ofjune. three and a half weeks and we will spend that time discussing matters with both our members and the welsh government fully on that, making sure our members will be given the best possible advice on the situation at this moment in time. there are huge concerns, which we will be conveying directly to the welsh government and to kirsty williams, our minister, directly. or what? there are obviously options available to our members if we believe that it is not safe enough to go back in. we will be telling our members that. if our members believe and take in risk assessments within their schools, it clearly shows it is not safe, we will be advising them how to do with that matter and how to deal with head teachers in the local authorities. my teachers in the local authorities. my understanding of the moment is that parents have been told you don't have to take your children back to school and teachers have been told you don't have to go back either. teachers of course are a microcosm of society in any event and there will be teachers out there in the extremely vulnerable categories, teachers and the vulnerable categories, teachers who live with people in both those categories as well, and teachers will have other concerns. we will not be expecting all of those to be returning on 29th. they have to make the right decisions, and the schools have to understand that. with schools being opened up to a third of the pupils, that will have massive impact upon staffing issues, and up to a third of pupils, that could of course mean hundreds of pupils being on in one day in the largest comprehensive schools. pupils being on in one day in the largest comprehensive schoolslj pupils being on in one day in the largest comprehensive schools. i am just wondering, there does seem to bea just wondering, there does seem to be a very different approach in the nations of the united kingdom. who do you think is getting it right? well, we did think that wales were getting it right up until today's announcement. we thought they were playing a very cautious approach, which was right, we were in discussions with them on that. caution is of course the real watchword. you would need to get the confidence of parents and the staff before you actually make the decision to increase operations within the schools. schools of course have been open for children of key workers and vulnerable children, but at this moment in time we see that that cautious approach has not been adhered to. so we need to make sure that in future discussions we have over the next few weeks, we emphasise our issues and concerns on this, and we make sure we get the right result.|j and concerns on this, and we make sure we get the right result. i am right in thinking that schools and councils will have the final say in how this works. yes, each individual authority can make decisions with regards to their particular schools. we will be in discussions with them via our local offices and we will be making sure we see the modelling, that the modelling is done correctly for each particular school and common sense will prevail. the summer term is extended i think to the 27th ofjuly. now, won't that time be quite useful to get this up and running and working in preparation for what will be a very busy autumn term? it is one extra week, and one extra week in which there has been little or no consultation with ourselves, as regards extending the term. there will be plenty of our members out there and plenty of other teachers out there who have made arrangements for that week, arrangements that possibly can't be broken. there has to be full consultation on this, there has to obviously a consideration of contractual issues as well. none of those have been thought through. really, none of us have made any plans because we can't, what sort of thing are you thinking about? people will have made certain arrangements, obviously we can't see people jetting off to foreign climes at that particular time but they may have other arrangements, which they've made within this country. we don't know what the position will be come the 27th ofjuly, or the week leading up to that, so things are changing by the day. david, it is good of you to talk to us. thank you very much. a man has been arrested for driving offences, after a car hit two people in central london. according to an eyewitness, the vehicle mounted a pavement in sloane square and struck two pedestrians. their condition isn't known at the moment. cordons were put in place, and buildings in the surrounding area were evacuated as a precaution, while officers searched the vehicle. police say they are not treating it as a terrorist incident. a clinical contract tracer has told the bbc‘s victoria derbyshire exclusively that she's spent much of her time since the government's track and trace system went live watching netflix, because she hasn't been assigned a single case. the government's scheme began in england last thursday. the health secretary matt hancock says the scheme has been successful. figures disclosed last night for thursday to sunday suggest nearly 11,500 covid—19 cases were reported to test and trace during this time. of those, just over 1,800 had provided information about their close contacts. the woman my colleague victoria derbyshire has been speaking to is a nurse, and has worked around 38 hours in total so far over several shifts, earning £17.35 an hour. she says she hasn't made one call in that time and feels guilty for being paid to ‘sit idle'. victoria spoke to ‘becky‘ yesterday evening — it's not her real name because she asked to remain anonymous. . . it was on the downing street briefing on wednesday by matt hancock when i found out that the system is going live on thursday morning. since the system's gone live, i've worked 38 hours as a contact tracer. i say "worked", i've been available to work as a contract tracer since it went live, and i am yet over 38 hours to make a single phone call or be assigned a case. so you have worked 38 hours as a clinical contact tracer on shift since the system went live, and you haven't found anyone? no. i've had no contact from anyone. i've had no contact from supervisors. i've literally been on the system, refreshed the system, and entertain myself during that, watching netflix. what are you watching? i've been watching a good place. i returned to season one and i'm halfway through season three. just watched it alongside going back to the system, refreshing it, occasionally having to log back in because it has timed out. yeah, i have yet to have any contact with anybody regarding contact tracing. so taxpayers are paying you to watch netflix? yeah, and it's frustrating. do you feel guilty just netflix? yeah, and it's frustrating. do you feel guiltyjust sitting there, refreshing your screen and watching netflix? i do, yeah, definitely. i've gone into nursing because it's a vocation, and i've gone into this role with the intention of providing care for people in whichever capacity i can. this contact tracing idea, which is working in other countries, like in germany it's quite effective, it's frustrating today that i am sat idle when there are people who need contacting. i can't understand why we haven't had any contacts. it doesn't make any sense to me. what doesn't make any sense to me. what do you think of that?” doesn't make any sense to me. what do you think of that? i think it is appalling. i think it is dishonest, and that is one of the fundamental concerns about this. we are trying to build a very large system that's trying to keep people in england safe, to try and prevent a second spike. i understand it is complex, andi spike. i understand it is complex, and i understand there is going to be challenges, but from my perspective, as a citizen of england, i would perspective, as a citizen of england, iwould prefer perspective, as a citizen of england, i would prefer honesty. it's not ready yet. hold fire. you know, the released aspects of lockdown, which without track and trace it is not safe to do so. not having a system up and running is obviously frustrating, but it is about people's lives. becky, thank you very much for talking to us. the department of health and social care told us in a statement: "the new nhs test and trace service is up and running and will help save lives. these claims do not reflect the huge amount of work already underway. anyone in this country can book a test and we have over 25,000 contact tracers in place to undertake this vital work". now, louise lear has the weather. hello there. with barely a drop of rain falling across parts of england through the whole month of may, this is probably coming as welcome news. it is cloudy with outbreaks of rain pushing its way steadily south and east. behind it, a bright and breezy affair. that's how we close out the day in scotland and northern ireland, but that weather front will wea ken ireland, but that weather front will weaken as it moves its way through east anglia and the south—east corner overnight. we keep quite a lot of cloud as well, temperatures holding up between six and 12 degrees. so we start off tomorrow morning on another grey note. the cloud should break, we will see a few scattered showers going into the afternoon, lighter winds but from a northerly direction still, so still those temperatures subdued in comparison to what we have been used to of late. highest values between nine and 18 degrees. it looks as though friday we will see more widespread, sharper showers developing, and the winds will start to pick up through the latter stages of the day, leading to a blustery, showery weekend, and coolerfor all. hello, this is bbc news with simon mccoy. the headlines: a loss of public trust and confidence — the labour leader criticises borisjohnson over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic. the pm tells keir starmer the country doesn't want politicians arguing. defying a curfew — thousands demonstrate, mainly peacefully, across the us for an eighth night following the death of george floyd in police custody. meanwhile, demonstrations are also taking place in the uk — this is the scene near hyde park in central london. thousands of people turning out in solidarity. two weeks' quarantine — that's what the government wants all travellers to face as they come into the uk from monday back to school for the last few weeks of the summer term — schools in wales will begin a limited return from the 29thjune. students may be forced to live and study in the same small group — or ‘bubble' — when uk university campuses re—open in the autumn. university leaders have been setting out proposal are setting out proposals for a socially distanced student life. we will have more on that later,. the health and social care committee is taking evidence on covid—19 test and trace strategy — let's listen in to that. about to take evidence from the head of the nhs test and trace programme. since you have knowledge, what is the proportion of new covid cases that have been contacted by a clinician within 24 hours? thank you very much, chair. maybe if i could just a first get a little bit of context just a first get a little bit of co ntext a nd just a first get a little bit of context and exclaim i am probably not going to give you the answer that you would like. this is a service that is only six days old and as vice president said earlier in your session, and as vice president said earlier in yoursession, building and as vice president said earlier in your session, building trust in nhs test and trace is going to be had lately critical. we need to make sure that any data that we share is accurate and validated. you will have seen an exchange of letters between deb and our growth, chair of the uk statistics authority and the —— event nor growth. our teams are working together now to create a weekly dashboard of data for the other end to end test and trace programme and where working very ha rd to programme and where working very hard to get that and aim to publish it both nationally and a local level, but i do not have that data yet today. it is a really important that the data that we share is validated and, as i am sure you will appreciate, and operational service thatis appreciate, and operational service that is touching hundreds of thousands of people that is very new, it is important that we make sure that we share accurate data. i'm very happy to give a flavour of what we will learn of a deeper six days, but i just what we will learn of a deeper six days, but ijust don't have those statistics at the level that i think would pass the test of our uk statistics authority as we stand today. i have to say, i'm quite disappointed with that because we did give you notice of these questions and i would really like to probe and get as much of a flavour asi probe and get as much of a flavour as i can because i think this is the house of commons select committee andi house of commons select committee and i think we were told it was going to be a world beating system when it was launched and i do not think it is unreasonable for us to ask quite simple questions like what proportion of new new covid cases have been contacted back in 24 hours. are you getting more than 80% of them? we have been hearing that lots of contact racers have been sitting idle, so presumably there is no capacity shortage —— contact tracers. i'm happy to give you your flavour. but it is important that we give you a validator. i do not think there is any citizen service of the scale that would lodge and within six days share 24—hour turnaround data. we will get to it really quickly. —— that will launch within 60 days. when will we get the later? i would very much hope that we will start to publish a weekly dashboard from next week. it will not have all the data that you would others we don't actually like, no one wants to have the state any public domain more than i do. not least because i really firmly believe, as your previous two witnesses have said, to make the service work, actually all 60 million of us need to play a part in this and i think the most effective way of us are doing this is if we all know where we stand in terms of the spread of infection and at the success of the test and trace service. i understand that, but you also understand the counterargument, which is not sharing with us that a basic data like how many people are being contacted within 24 hours might actually destroy confidence in it because it will make people think that, actually, the reason the date has not been shared is because it is not terribly good? —— the data. has not been shared is because it is not terribly good? —— the datafi isa not terribly good? —— the datafi is a six—day—old service, so therefore there is work to do to make sure that we validate the data sources that we have let me get to giving a flavour. go on. let's have the flavour. i'd be working with the statistics authority to make sure that the data is good enough for them to be comfortable with us publishing it. because they have been uncomfortable with what has been uncomfortable with what has been published until now. been uncomfortable with what has been published until nowm been uncomfortable with what has been published until now. it is a good line, let's have the flavour now. some of the things that have surprised firstly, the vast majority of people who we are contacting and asking to isolate are very pleased too. we have had some lovely studies, initially a number of our contact tracers where wedded they would have difficult calls, but instead they have been having positive calls —— where worried they would have difficult calls. one individual said they had been allowed to go to a family barbecue that had recently been allowed, but now they had spoken to our contact tracers and obviously they would not wa nt to tracers and obviously they would not want to put their family and friends at risk, so they have stayed at home, so we are seeing a significant proportion of the people we have contacted, thousands of people in the first six days, very keen to follow the guidance. as your previous two witnesses have said, the actual conversion that we are most concerned about is from people having symptoms to them ordering a test. because if they do not enter the test and trace system, we cannot deliver are part of the bargain in making sure that we identify their contacts and ask them to self—isolate within 48 hours. if you look at the latest ons statistics that were published last week, the ons's central estimate is that there are roughly 8000 people contacting covert everyday —— contracting covid every day. and we had approximate 1600 people having positive tests. we have excess testing capacity and we have accessed tracing capacity, so the capacity in the system is not the issue. what we need to do is come together as a society, encourage everyone if they feel ill and they have a cough, a fever, or have lost their sense of taste or smell, that they order a test. that they self—isolate immediately and order a test. interestingly, from last night, only 44% of adults contacted knew that all adults were available for a test. maybe that is not surprising because the eligibility protests was only extended to adults 2.5 weeks ago. so ifi extended to adults 2.5 weeks ago. so if i mark my way through —— work my way through, what we know is that not enough of us are ordering a test when we do not feel well. so i need to get more people into the tracing system. once we get people into that tracing system, remember that this isa tracing system, remember that this is a multichannel process. you get your positive test results back and you're asked by a text message logon to the nhs test and trace website to start to register your contacts. one thing we have discovered is that a higher proportion than we were expecting people are self—serving, so about 25% of people, roughly, and it has changed hugely here day by day, and i hate giving people any number... we know that you do not like giving us numbers. we got that message. i think that it moves a lot. more than we were expecting. let's say 25% or a third of people self—serving. that is one of the reasons why our contact tracers are not as busy as we have been expecting because more people are selling themselves online and giving us no details and that is also —— serving themselves online. so many people want to ask questions and i do want to bring everyone in. on this question of data, could we, could i ask you to write to the committee before the end of next week and! committee before the end of next week and i just committee before the end of next week and ijust want to tell you that the things that we asked you in advance of today's healing to come armed with that you're not going to tell us, but we would like to know them by the end of next week —— today's hearing. how many people are contacted within 24 hours when they have tested positive, what proportion of people questioning what proportion of people are willing to share their close contacts? and any close contacts are then contacted medical centres within the following 24 hours? and what we what we think the compliance rate is with self isolation? and these are the four bits of data that we would like. would you rate to the committee and give us that data by the end of next week? i'm delighted to say that i will do that with only one proviso, which is that the data centre i want to make sure that the uk statistics authority is happy. centre i want to make sure that the uk statistics authority is happylj understand that. there may be some gaps. thank you. now can i just... because i have a lot of people who wa nt because i have a lot of people who want to comment. there are two very important things i want to ask you before i do. the first is, can i just be due the sage minutes which have now been published from the 1st of maysaid that sage agreed with a high degree of confidence that for the test and trace system to be effective, isolation of contacts of individuals with covid—19 needs to happen within 48 hours. obviously that isolation cannot happen if the test result itself takes 48 hours, as we were hearing from professor fraserjust now. as we were hearing from professor fraser just now. can as we were hearing from professor fraserjust now. can i ask you, how quickly are the tests being turned around at the moment? what proportion of tests are coming back within the 24 hours that professor fraserjust told us was essential that we know sage think it is also essential? again, i can give you broad averages. they have not yet been validated. sorry to keep giving a caveat. as we stand at the moment, over 90% of all tests come back to the individual within 48 hours. we know that, yes. if you look at the different channels, if you go to one of our drives are centres, original test sites, order if you are testing... we know that the majority of those are within 24 hours. what now must tell is at the overall proportion of tests which come back within 24 hours. we do not have that yet. you must know that. you cannot... are using, you do not know exactly having tears are coming back in charge of nhs test and trace?” have not had the data validated. so you have data, but it has not been validated? i have not had the data validated? i have not had the data validated by the authority who has expressed concern about previous testing data not being invalidated. will you write to us with any week with validated data of what proportion of tessa coming back within 24 hours questioning this is incredibly let's make the government... —— the proportion of tests. normalcy tells within 24 hours, which is what we have just heard from professor fraser what is very important —— no one wants to tell us. again, i'm sorry to be boring, provided that the quality of the data is good enough. what i do not want to do with a service that is only six days old as lunch with data that... we are seeing within a week. provided that the quality of the data is good enough, that is all iam saying. the data is good enough, that is all i am saying. i am fully expecting to be able to do that, but ijust do not want to give you false assurance. this the final question i just wanted to ask on a different topic which was about false negatives. i know it is a big issue. the guidance, as i understand it at the moment, as if you call in with symptoms, and your test comes back negative, the guidance says that you and other household members no longer need to self—isolate. but we know from bristol university and johns hopkins university that up to 20% of test results are false negatives so there are people who actually have covid and the test says that they do not. why does the guidance not then as those people to have another test? —— guidance not then as those people to have anothertest? —— not guidance not then as those people to have another test? —— not then ask those people. this is really a question for the medical and scientific experts, for the chief medical officer. and that myjob is to ta ke medical officer. and that myjob is to take the scientific and medical guidance that sage and the cmo sets and deliver an operating system and and deliver an operating system and a service to meet those requirements. i think we do recognise that there is a letter in the testing system, but the current guidance is exactly as you set out and that is what we are building the service to. could you ask them why the advice is what it is and then write to us with your room of other letters with the explanations of why people are not for the second test if they had tested negative questioning obviously we would not wa nt questioning obviously we would not want people to be going back into the community if they could be spreading it? i would say that my understanding of the guidance is that if after having a negative test, you and your household are free to go back into normal life, but if you do continue to feel unwell, after a couple of days we would advise you to stay at home and ta ke would advise you to stay at home and take another test and a few days' time. we are not short on testing capacity and actually, i want people who are not feeling well to feel really confident that they can go free test. thank you. doctor luke evans. thank you very much. i want to bring up the chairs question of false negatives and positives. do you happen to know the values of false positives and false negatives? to exactly 20% this swap tests? remembering that i'm not a clinician ora remembering that i'm not a clinician or a scientist, as i understand that there are a number of different studies and quite a wide range in the studies ranging between two and 20 odd percent, so i do not think there is precision in the scientific evidence that we would all like there to be. thank you. with the antibody test, i was pleased to see the government set a very high sensitivity and specificity above 90%. do you have any false negatives are false positive numbers on that test? no, i'm sorry, i don't. the reason i asked that is because on the 7th of may about your position, it talks about your response immunity certification. could you tell me a little bit more about what that actually means and what it entails? and to give her see that going? yes, of course. one of the things that all of us who are lay people and that really want to be true is that if we have been unlucky enough to be ill with covid and then have got antibodies, we want to believe that will confer immunity. and enable us to get on with their lives. as i understand it, the reality of the science today is that the scientists do not think they can give us that reassurance. that is partly because there are not enough people who are known to have antibodies and have had them long enough for us to be confident that that really does confer immunity. if the science develops over the course of the next few months or time, i do not know how long, then, and the scientists are able to tell us that a certain level of antibodies in your bloodstream does confer immunity for a certain amount of time, clearly that might give potential to flee up their lives any more normal way. —— flee up their lives. this is true across the whole world, and everyone in the private sector and public sectors yes still hoping that science will give us that freedom, but today the scientific evidence is not there yet. would you foresee some way and your team looking at passports then, certificates that people carry around with them and the policing of that? are their thoughts going on to how that would look if the science does indeed back it up? it is really early days to be going there. i think the focus of the team at the moment is supporting the research community into bidding and placing studies both nationally globally —— putting into place to get the evidence of what immunity we might have based on various different tasks. building the optional t so that —— on various different tests. so the signs are evolves... when practical issue i have is i was speaking to the police force a local area of leicestershire and one of the things they're worried about is the things they're worried about is the malicious use of the track and trace and some positive rings, tracks the police, they are working on cars, etc, you can take out a significant proportion of police office rs by significant proportion of police officers by doing so. are there any thoughts, mitigations, for the police? you can actually argue it could be used against parliamentarians as well? are there any ways to mitigate that system and thoughts about the test and trace system? thoughts about the test and trace system ? you thoughts about the test and trace system? you would hope that the british public if they got a call would isolate for 14 days if they had been positive scratch making contact with someone of his positive quest make firstly does not fit with what we are seeing far. if you test positive, and you put your information into online, that online information into online, that online information is being screened as well to make sure we are identifying complex cases so if you put in the online form to say that you work in health or social care or any person, for example, that will immediately be escalated to a specialist health protection team for the local area. so it would be quite hard to create the kind of scam you were talking about, but i'm not saying it is not possible. are taking forward really seriously at all stages in the process. in the end, this is actually the whole system based on societal trust. they way that will enable us all to get back to leading a normal life is all following the basic rules of nhs test and trace. and the early evidence is that is what is happening. one final question. the emphasis has been, on this committee, the app and how that fits in. i'm wondering what weighting towards actual physical contact tracing and when the app comes in, do you see that working? there are clearly hand in glove, but for example we try chlamydia to contact tracing, calling people up and saying, you have had contact, but many people do not have a mobile phone. i wondered but many people do not have a mobile phone. iwondered if but many people do not have a mobile phone. i wondered if going forward whether you see the app, the media reported it as an integral part, if not, where do you see the percentage being involved in tracing?” not, where do you see the percentage being involved in tracing? i would say, given my background as a retailer, i see this as a proper multichannel service. one of the learnings from the isle of wight is that actually having the local community engagement and the contact tracing is the bedrock of this. i see the app more as the cherry on the cake, rather than the cake itself. it will speed things up as the number, as professor fraser said, but actually you need the bedrock of the end to end testing and tracing service for the app to be able to do the speeding up of. that is one of the reasons why we have launched the nhs test and trace firstly before the app because we need to invent that and the trust in the service. that is not to say that the service. that is not to say that the app will not be powerful, it will be in speeding things up, but there are millions of people in this country who do not own a smartphone and it is really important that we build a service that is successful but everyone —— accessible for everyone. the app is not the core of this, it is part. thank you, sailor own. “— this, it is part. thank you, sailor own. —— sarah owen. this, it is part. thank you, sailor own. -- sarah owen. iwas this, it is part. thank you, sailor own. -- sarah owen. i was going to have some questions about data and statistics, but as that is not going to come in, i want to ask the disproportionate impact we have seen it has had on black, asian and east asian communities. how many are what proportion of the contact tracers that you have are from the bame community and why was the app trialled in the isle of wight, which isa trialled in the isle of wight, which is a 97.3% white? and what can we learn from how best to communicate with ethnic minorities given a trial? let me take the second part of your question first. the app was found in isle of wight because we needed a location that was a geographically distinct. the population of the isle of wight have been fantastic and i have no way is ——ido been fantastic and i have no way is —— i do not want to suggest otherwise, but it is about the physical geography of the island, rather than the population and it is absolutely right that in terms of giving us insight into how access and inspire the broad variety of communities across the country, clearly the isle of wight on its own is not going to do that, but nonetheless what it did do is teach us that local community engagement is critical. to answer your first question, i'm actually rather embarrassed to say that i do not have that information and i will get it for you and send it to you as soon as possible. the way that we have recruited our contact tracers over 7500 of them are returning clinicians, so doctors, nurses, dentists and other allied health professionals. i would assume, given the fantastic diversity in our nhs workforce, that a significant proportion of them will be from an ethnic minority communities because the nhs workforce, as a whole, is very representative of the population, so i would assume that to be the case, but i do not have the information is i will get it to you very quickly. and that obviously needs validating, but it should be quite easy from the hr systems of our partners. i will share that. i com pletely our partners. i will share that. i completely agree with you about the importance of building a service that really does work for everyone. it is one of the reasons why we have launched, by the government announced ten days ago, the additionalfunding to announced ten days ago, the additional funding to help local government build at their local tress, tase and contain the plans because they way that we will stamp out covid in local communities is with local communities working together —— the local test, trace and contain plans. it is as much about local action engagement and as human as it is about national and technology. we all need to play a pa rt technology. we all need to play a part in the system. thank you, baroness harding. given the fact that you are saying and we are seeing black men and women four times more to die and british pakistanis being more likely, twice more likely to die, i find it more than embarrassing that you do not know how many contact tracers you have from the bame community. with regards to the local government side of funding, luton council was staring at a £49 million black hole when it comes to its finances because of covid—19. how satisfied are you that local authorities are being given the funding necessary to track, test and trace effectively?” think it is really important that we are providing a direct funding for the health protection teams in local authorities and in public health england. what i am being encouraged, iam england. what i am being encouraged, i am carried by the reaction that we have had from local government across the country, but that funding is very welcome. we are expanding the teams locally in those health protection teams and i expect that will continue to expand. i would not be at all surprised if we were to continue increasing the funding as those teams expand over the course of the next few months. so the overall funding of local government is well beyond my brief, so i can only really tell you about the funding for the covid containment work in those health protection teams. iam work in those health protection teams. i am afraid i cannot comment beyond that. ok, rosie cooper. my question was going to be about how the public can be assured that contact tracing is safe for them and their details. and in your answer to look, you said you were taking thought very, very seriously. yet it seems to be light years ahead —— taking fraud very, very seriously. yaxley cannot even verify the call you had from track and trace is genuine. you cannot follow the advice that the bank is give you, but any phone, phone number and you will get through. we're not enabler at that level to fall through. it would be other people are able to lose their life savings if they were to think, like mr cummings, think that they were doing their civic duty full stop trust will be absolutely fundamentally eroded if people were duped into trying to help and actually lost money. what does taking fraud seriously mean in this regard? what are you actually doing? let me take you through. we doing? let me take you through. we do understand that people will be very cautious about discussing clinical details over the phone and will be wary of criminals, sadly, who might capitalise on this national effort. contact tracers will never ask anyone for financial information such as credit or bank details. they will never do that. if the public are concerned about whether a call or e—mail they receive comes in for an nhs test and trace, they can visit got that uk and will see a page which lists the official phone numbers are used. if someone does not wish to talk of any phone, nhs test and trace can offer to send an e—mail or text inviting them to logon to our when system. it is important to remember, as i said, that we will never ask you for your financial details, your pin numbers or your banking passwords. and they will also not be visiting your home. whilst it is possible for criminals to fa ke whilst it is possible for criminals to fake an official phone number, sadly i do know that, they cannot fa ke sadly i do know that, they cannot fake official website addresses. we would encourage anyone with concerns about a phone call, text message, e—mail in relation to nhs test and trace to check the website address being provided to them does not and if possible, they should type in the official address, which i can send it to you, if that is helpful. and then follow it by the unique characters that they have been given by the service. if you think that you have been sent to scan message, we need people to report that to action fraud. if people receive an e—mail they are not sure about, they should forward it to the national cyber security centre is suspicious e—mail reporting service and they can report a spam text to all spam texting service and we will keep expanding all of these things and we are trying to be very public about this is how we can protect ourselves. i'm not going to pretend that this is perfect. unfortunately, there will always be a tiny proportion of society who tried to ta ke proportion of society who tried to take advantage of people who are in a vulnerable position, but there is a vulnerable position, but there is a lot that we are doing that will enable us all to stay safe. thank you. one more, rosie, yes.” would really just point thank you. one more, rosie, yes.” would reallyjust point out that in your earlier answer, you talked about people who don't have smartphones, who are not it savvy, so all of that would be almost beyond them, so why we can't have a phone number that they could phone and check is beyond me. they can. they can ring 119. they can ring 119? yes. they're ok, that's great, thanks very much for that info. vice president chang was clear that their success in taiwan was based on trust, which itself was based in confidence, which hasn't exactly been at the forefront of our work to date. i acknowledge this is not your mess, and! date. i acknowledge this is not your mess, and i hear that you have brought great energy and intelligence to the task, but again, going back to security, i want to ask you a couple of questions related to the data. who exactly has access to that data, who has access to who has had the test, because you could get a follow—on survey after that, so who has access to that survey, and whether any other government departments, agencies, indeed anybody else outside the nhs has access to that information. so, the data, all of this, is compliant with the gdpr, the general data protection regulations, and it is public health england that is holding the contact tracing data. this is very actually a standard pa rt of this is very actually a standard part of public health england's operating model. they have used personal information from contact tracing for a variety of diseases, and have done for a long time, and thatis and have done for a long time, and that is set out in the gdpr legislation specifically. we do take the data protection extremely seriously, and we have been working with the information commissioner, with the information commissioner, with national cyber security centre and others to keep stress testing to make sure people's data is safe. i think the thing i would just add is this is an operating citizen service thatis this is an operating citizen service that is six days old that is already larger than most of our online food delivery businesses. it employs over 40,000 people directly and indirectly through a variety of different partners, and i know we won't get everything right all the time. we have started. we are determined to be open and transparent in the way we operate. we will share this data when it is validated, i absolutely give you my word, and we will make sure that over time we build the trust that the public needs to have in us. thank you. last one, then, rosie. studio: right, we are going to leave that session, that was the health select committee taking evidence from dido harding, who is leading the government's testing effort for coronavirus. i want to take you now to some pictures that are coming in live from parliament square. these are of the protest that is taking place in solidarity with the case of george floyd, the african—american man who died in minneapolis eight days ago, after a police officer held him down with a knee on his neck for nine minutes. this protest has been arranged by the campaign group, black lives matter, and it is being done, following on really from many demonstrations and protests that we have seen over the last few daysin that we have seen over the last few days in the united states. in the uk, chief constables have actually issued a statement, saying they too stand along side all those who were appalled and horrified by george floyd's death. as you can see, quite a gathering there in central london. people are meant to be a socially distancing. quite hard to tell how much that is happening there on the ground. it looks in some places as if there is a real density of people, but the idea was that people we re people, but the idea was that people were meant to stand with their arms outstretched so that they would know that that was roughly two metres from the person next to them. hard to see how that might be maintained, but anyway, that was certainly the aim. anyway, we will leave that they are. that protest going on at the moment. it started in hyde park in central london and has now progressed to parliament square. you are watching bbc news. the prime minister has said he takes full responsibility for the government's handling of the coronavirus crisis — after labour leader sir keir starmer told him to get a grip of the country's response to the pandemic. sir keir said the government was losing the public‘s trust and confidence at a vital period in the fight against the virus. in a testy prime minister's questions the labour leader also criticised the government's handling of the test and trace system in england. our political correspondent helen catt reports. parliament looks and feels different these days. have you got a grip, prime minister? the prime minister heading notjust into a building that's changed, as the country starts to unlock, but to face a leader of the opposition who has changed, too. to a harder tone. the telegraph reports the prime minister has decided to take direct control of the government's response to the virus. so, an obvious question to the prime minister, who has been in direct control up to now? i take full responsibility for everything the government has been doing in tackling coronavirus, and i'm very proud of our record. what the country would like to hear from him is more signs of co—operation in that endeavour. he asked for a sign of co—operation, a fair challenge. i wrote to him, as he knows, in confidence, two weeks ago, to ask if i could help build a consensus for getting children back to school. i did it privately, because i didn't want to make a lot of it. he hasn't replied. i took the trouble to ring him up, and we had a long conversation, in which i briefed the honourable gentleman about the steps we were taking. he didn't offer any dissent at that stage, and endorsed our approach. i think he should continue to endorse it. the prime minister's confusing scrutiny for attacks. i have supported the government openly, and taken criticism for it, but, boy, he makes it difficult to support this government. the political ceasefire, it seems, is over. not least on the government's test and trace programme. two weeks ago, the prime minister promised that we will have a test, track and trace operation that will be world—beating, and, yes, it will be in place by 1stjune. but it isn't. a critical element, the ability of local authorities to respond to local spikes, is missing. i must say, i really do not see the purpose of his endless attacks on public trust and confidence, when what we are trying to do, and what the public want to hear from politicians, across all parties, is our clear messages about how to defeat this virus. test and trace is a vital tool, and contrary to what he says, actually, we did by the end of may get up to 100,000 tests a day. labour has not said what it would do differently but it sent a clear signal it will be holding mrjohnson personally responsible. that can only increase the pressure as he moved into the next phase of getting the country back towards normal. helen catt, bbc news, westminster. the home secretary has confirmed that new quarantine rules for people arriving in the uk from overseas will come into force on monday — that includes uk nationals. priti patel said most people entering the uk will be told to isolate for two weeks, with only "a limited number of exemptions." they will be required to fill in a "contact locator form", with details on where they will isolate and how they can be contacted. she warned that anyone leaving isolation in england could face a fine of up to £1,000 or face prosecution. the regulations apply to england with devolved administrations setting their own rules for enforcing the quarantine. ms patel said the measures would be reviewed after three weeks and the government would aim to ensure greater freedom in the long term, including establishing "international travel corridors" with countries deemed to be safe. our transport correspondent tom burridge reports. warning systems will be in place in portugal this summer to help tourists avoid crowded beaches. the portuguese government says british holiday—makers are very welcome. but from monday, people arriving back into the uk will have to self—isolate for two weeks. quarantine is an enemy of tourism. portugal's foreign minister says his government is negotiating with with the uk, so byjuly, people travelling between the two countries might not have to go into quarantine. if it was prolonged, of course, the holidays of british people and also of portuguese people living in the united kingdom, i think portugal would be severely damaged. airports — pretty empty now — warned the quarantine will put people off travelling over the summer. some people say they will go on holiday, regardless. i booked the holiday only a couple of weeks ago, i'm keen to leave the country and we are going to montenegro, which is a very safe place to be, as we speak, and if i have to quarantine when i come home, iwill. today, still a fraction of usual traffic in and out of heathrow. the airport's boss called the quarantine rules an existential threat for the travel sector. but he revealed new details about how it would work. my understanding is that there will be spot checks within the immigration area, which is where the border force officers will check that people have filled out their form, and it is a legitimate one, and there will be a triage for the very few people who will be exempted, which would allow them to come in without quarantine. but despite anger from airlines, a near—blanket quarantine will take effect on monday. the prime minister said it will help control the virus. these measures are backed by science and are essential to save lives. we know it will present problems for the tourism industry but that is why we have an precedented package of support, the most comments are in the world, for employees and business. for the simple reason that as we get the rate of infection down with the efforts that we are making as a country, it is vital that we avoid reinfection from elsewhere, and that's why we are doing it. for travel to pick up, agreements with countries with low infection rates — so people don't have to self—isolate — will be vital. otherwise, after a disastrous spring, travel companies could face a catastrophic summer. tom burridge, bbc news. we can speak now to our politica correspondent iain watson. a question lots of people are asking is where is the sense in making people who are coming from countries with lower infection rates than the uk, where is the sense in making people quarantine?” uk, where is the sense in making people quarantine? i am very happy to give you priti patel‘s answer to that, and what she would say is there was no point in effectively quarantining people when there is a massive community transmission of the disease in britain, it will have made very little difference. as we get the numbers down here it is easier to track and trace people coming into the country and quarantine measures are now likely to be more effective. but i have to say that explanation did not go down at all while on her own conservative benches. apart from a couple of mps, virtually every contribution was critical in one way or another. steve bryan, winchester mp who has constituents working at southampton airport, he said it was the right policy but at the wrong time, and the argument he was making an effect was that when people were coming into this country from italy and other european countries which have high levels of infection, the policy wasn't being imposed then, that may have actually added to community transmission and was now being done and imposed on countries which have got much smaller numbers of cases than the united kingdom. that point was also echoed by liam fox, who is of course a medical doctor as well asa of course a medical doctor as well as a former cabinet minister, who suggested the government is going to great lengths to try to justify something which is very difficult to justify. lam afraid i am afraid i simply can't get my head around the public health mental gymnastics of this policy. if such a barrier was required, why was it not introduced early in the outbreak, and if it is a contingency measure against a so—called second wave, why apply it to countries with a lower infection rates than we already have? surely the answer lies in the government's test and trace a system rather than unnecessary economic isolation. so can she tell us please from a home office perspective in the event of air bridge being established, how will it be possible to identify transit and more importantly stopover passengers who may be able to come through the bridge from higher risk areas to the uk? i think what was interesting was liam fox said the government was basically undergoing mental gymnastics to justify this policy, but the questions he raised were reflected by a whole number of conservative mps. reflected by a whole number of conservative mp5. the criticism in short boil down to this. firstly the timing of the measures, secondly because the government do more to have these air bridges, these air corridors that might allow people to go on holiday to countries with lower levels of infection but also from the labour benches especially, calls for priti patel or other government ministers to reveal the scientific measures this was based on. she said the government was following the science. but some on the conservative benches shared those views as well. there were questions about the efficiency and efficacy of the policy. also whether it could be justified scientifically. but more than that, some people basically a former cabinet minister ben bradshaw put it like this, just urging the policy to be ditched entirely. desmond swayne the conservative mp said if you're going to review it, could you have that review within ten days. it effectively killed off very quickly. we should say despite what we heard at westminster where voices were raised pretty much unanimously against this policy or the way it was being implemented, the government would point out, downing street would point out it is popular with the wider public. interesting, 0k, with the wider public. interesting, ok, many thanks for that, iain watson in westminster. all coronavirus tests are to be turned around within 24 hours by the end ofjune, the prime minister has said. boris johnson hit back at sir kier starmer‘s criticism of his handling of the outbreak —— saying the government had met its targets for testing and driven down the death rate. he accused the labour leader of undermining public confidence with his attacks. let's speak to dr margaret harris, a spokeswoman for the world health organisation. dr harris thank you forjoining us here on bbc news. just a reminder if you don't mind of the importance of testing in combating this pandemic. testing is absolutely fundamental, because that gives you the eyes on where the virus is. tracking is also very important, because that allows you to find all the people who have potentially been exposed to the virus and to isolate them from the healthy. so those are the basics, and these things work. but as all countries are discovering, they are not as easy as they sound. and the reasons for that is? because you do need large teams, large systems, you need large teams, large systems, you need to be very clear about how you are doing it, and you also need to have the partnership with the community that you are working with. so you need to have people understanding what you are doing, while you are doing it, and being co mforta ble while you are doing it, and being comfortable about volunteering information so you really do know who is potentially infected and you can work with them to ensure they do isolate themselves, that they do not feel there is some threat to them so they hide their symptoms or their owners. republic cooperation is very important. what about the speed of getting results back after a test? that is also obviously crucial. the earlier you can get the information, the earlier you can inform the people concerned, especially the person potentially infected all the people around them who are potentially exposed. so the speed with which you can get that information is critical. and ideally how quickly should that be done, what would you think of as being a reasonable speed ? what would you think of as being a reasonable speed? well, it is variable. it depends on the laboratories, depends on the reporting systems, but it is great if you can do it with a 24—hour turnaround. if it is a 48-hour turnaround, that means there are more people who might be carrying the virus and spreading it unknowingly? so again this is where community partnerships are crucial. if you know you have the virus there, if the individuals concerned, if you have already started potentially tracking, at least discussing that potentially there is virus there. if you have a high level of transmission in a particular area and you are working with those people advising them, that helps you even if you don't have the definitive information.” wonder if the world health organisation has done any research on the public‘s tolerance of these very draconian on the public‘s tolerance of these very draconian measures on the public‘s tolerance of these very draconian measures in different countries? do you get a sense that people are abiding by the regulations that are being laid down by their different governments, or is there a certain amount of fatigue starting to creep in? that's a very good question. actually, to date we have been very pleasantly surprised by the extraordinary levels of commitment by people in very, very diverse countries, different cultures, understanding that this is a threat for everybody, and that this really is in everybody‘s hands. i think the critical time comes when the measures are eased and people think, 0k, the measures are eased and people think, ok, i have done the work, should be let out of school now. and now is the time when it actually gets harder, because we still have to be on high alert, and it is sort of like that boring time where you still have to be on high alert. you can't get the pat on the back yet, even though really populations around the world deserve lots of pats on the back. ok. on that happier note, dr margaret harris, we will leave it there. thank you, spokeswoman for the world health organisation. professor sir michael marmot is the director of the university college london institute of health equity, and an advisor to the director of the world health organisation. hejoins us now. professor marmot, thank you for talking to us on bbc news. i wanted to talk to you about the two big stories relating to the uk at the moment, one about testing and the other about foreign team. i wonder what you make of the government's plan to bring in a 14 day quarantine period for travellers arriving in england, i should say, from monday? well, everything about the government's response has been slow and late. and trying to control the epidemic should have happened much earlier. quarantine would have been appropriate much earlier. i'm not strongly against quarantine now, but it should be part of a package of having a proper testing, tracing and isolation system in place. simply saying, well, yes, we will quarantine people from abroad and not have it part of a broader tti system is not going to solve the problem. so do you think the people who arrive should be tested automatically? oh, absolutely. i mean, early on in the epidemic, i know that people travelling from the uk to italy were tested when they arrived in italy. people travelling from italy to the uk were not tested, and italy had the epidemic much earlier than we did, but we weren't testing them then. it seems, yeah, iam weren't testing them then. it seems, yeah, i am not against doing weren't testing them then. it seems, yeah, iam not against doing it weren't testing them then. it seems, yeah, i am not against doing it now but i would have been in favour of much more stringent controls much earlier in the progress of the pandemic. so the government would say to you there was not much point in doing it earlier, because transmission rates were high and they needed to fall to this level in order to make it manageable. yeah, i know they would say that, but we could have had lower transmission rates earlier. because you feel that they... because why, why do you say that? you know, youjust heard they... because why, why do you say that? you know, you just heard from the who, dr ted ross was saying test, test, test from the very beginning. we ditched our testing system, instead of gearing up to have a proper testing system in place in january, we have a proper testing system in place injanuary, we didn't do it. we started and then ditched it, and said if you've got symptoms, stay home, don't get tested, don't get diagnosed, which means that our ability to control the pandemic was hampered by the lack of information on how widespread it was, who was getting it, how it was distributed in the population. and if i may it relates to the report public health england published yesterday, a very important report on inequalities. and one of the problems, they have differences in diagnosis, but the differences in diagnosis, but the differences in diagnosis are somewhat flawed, because of the failure of systematic testing. they don't actually know about really about the inequalities in infection rates. what that report showed yesterday was about inequalities in mortality rates, which certainly we can trust, and they were alarming... sorry to jump can trust, and they were alarming... sorry tojump in can trust, and they were alarming... sorry to jump in there, professor marmot. i wanted to ask one question specifically on equality and be m e groups. this issue of ba m e people being represented in larger numbers in terms of contracting covid—19, dying from covid—19, there seems to be no clear answer as to quite why thatis, be no clear answer as to quite why that is, what is your own opinion? well, the report gave some answers. what it showed is a clear link between deprivation and mortality from covid—19. the more the deprived the area of residence, the higher mortality of covid—19, which pretty much tracked the higher mortality from all causes. in other words, the causes of inequality in covid—19 mortality overlap with the more general causes of inequalities in health. and then when we look at bame groups, look first at the people they classified as black british. they had about twice the mortality rate of white british from covid—19, but when allowance was made for the fact of deprivation, which is far more frequent in black british, most of the excess could be explained by deprivation. so we know in the case of black british it is because they are living in more deprived circumstances. it is not a total mystery. with the bangladeshi community, there was still a higher risk after they controlled for population and that probably relates to crowding at home, probably relates to higher rates of employment in high—risk occupations. 0k, employment in high—risk occupations. ok, thank you so much, professor marmot for that. from university couege marmot for that. from university college london, the institute of health equity. thank you. time now for a look at the weather with louise lear. hello there. with barely a drop of rain falling across parts of england through the whole month of may, this is probably coming as welcome news. it is cloudy with outbreaks of rain pushing its way steadily south and east. behind it, a bright and breezy affair. that's how we close out the day in scotland and northern ireland, but that weather front will weaken as it moves its way through east anglia and the south—east corner overnight. we keep quite a lot of cloud as well, temperatures holding up between six and 12 degrees. so we start off tomorrow morning on another grey note. the cloud should break, we will see a few scattered showers going into the afternoon, lighter winds but from a northerly direction still, so still those temperatures subdued comparison to what we have been used to of late. highest values between nine and 18 degrees. it looks as though friday we will see more widespread, sharper showers developing, and the winds will start to pick up through the latter stages of the day, leading to a blustery, showery weekend, and coolerfor all. this is bbc news. i'm reeta chakrabarti. the headlines... a loss of public trust and confidence — the labour leader criticises borisjohnson over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic. the pm tells keir starmer the country doesn't want politicians arguing. i really do not see the purpose of these endless attacks on public trust and confidence when what we are trying to do, and i think what the public want to hearfrom politicians across all parties, is our clear messages about how to defeat this virus. the prime minister is confusing scrutiny for attacks. i have supported the government openly — and i've taken criticism for it but, boy, he makes it difficult to support this government! defying a curfew — thousands demonstrate,

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