dominate this debate and he didn't. that's my assessment _ dominate this debate and he didn't. that's my assessment of— dominate this debate and he didn't. that's my assessment of it - dominate this debate and he didn't. that's my assessment of it anyway. | that's my assessment of it anyway. it that's my assessment of it anyway. it fell _ that's my assessment of it anyway. it fella _ that's my assessment of it anyway. it fella little — that's my assessment of it anyway. it fell a little bit _ that's my assessment of it anyway. it fell a little bit flat— that's my assessment of it anyway. it fell a little bit flat and i _ it fell a little bit flat and i think— it fell a little bit flat and i think the _ it fell a little bit flat and i think the energy, - it fell a little bit flat and i think the energy, as - it fell a little bit flat and i think the energy, as you i it fell a little bit flat and i - think the energy, as you say, was very— think the energy, as you say, was very much— think the energy, as you say, was very much between _ think the energy, as you say, was very much between penny- think the energy, as you say, was very much between penny and - think the energy, as you say, was - very much between penny and angela. given what— very much between penny and angela. given what i_ very much between penny and angela. given what i said _ very much between penny and angela. given what i said previously— very much between penny and angela. given what i said previously of - given what i said previously of course — given what i said previously of course i — given what i said previously of course, i thought _ given what i said previously of course, i thought it _ given what i said previously of course, i thought it could - given what i said previously of course, i thought it could be i given what i said previously of - course, i thought it could be much more _ course, i thought it could be much more dynamic— course, i thought it could be much more dynamic but _ course, i thought it could be much more dynamic but there _ course, i thought it could be much more dynamic but there was - course, i thought it could be much more dynamic but there was this i more dynamic but there was this sense _ more dynamic but there was this sense that — more dynamic but there was this sense that no—one _ more dynamic but there was this sense that no—one was - more dynamic but there was this sense that no—one was coached i more dynamic but there was this i sense that no—one was coached into sort of— sense that no—one was coached into sort of being — sense that no—one was coached into sort of being a — sense that no—one was coached into sort of being a smaller— sense that no—one was coached into sort of being a smaller versions - sense that no—one was coached into sort of being a smaller versions of i sort of being a smaller versions of themselves — sort of being a smaller versions of themselves i— sort of being a smaller versions of themselves. i thought _ sort of being a smaller versions of themselves. i thought angela - sort of being a smaller versions of i themselves. i thought angela rayner was very— themselves. i thought angela rayner was very subdued _ themselves. i thought angela rayner was very subdued and _ themselves. i thought angela rayner was very subdued and not _ themselves. i thought angela rayner was very subdued and not quite - themselves. i thought angela rayner was very subdued and not quite whatj was very subdued and not quite what i had was very subdued and not quite what i had expected — was very subdued and not quite what i had expected her— was very subdued and not quite what i had expected her to _ was very subdued and not quite what i had expected her to be. _ was very subdued and not quite what i had expected her to be. so- was very subdued and not quite what i had expected her to be. so it- i had expected her to be. so it was... i had expected her to be. so it was- -- i— i had expected her to be. so it was... i wonder— i had expected her to be. so it was... i wonder what - i had expected her to be.- was... i wonder what instruction i had expected her to be— was... i wonder what instruction she was... i wonder what instruction she was sent out with chris and caution is being the name of the game, if you're 20 points ahead in the polls you're 20 points ahead in the polls you can afford to be cautious. with that maybe the instruction she was sent with? �* , , ., sent with? there's definitely a theme running _ sent with? there's definitely a theme running to _ sent with? there's definitely a theme running to the - sent with? there's definitely a theme running to the labour i sent with? there's definitely a - theme running to the labour party, it's like the main vase carried across the polished floor. yes the polls are looking good, but the labour party doesn't often win elections in the last hundred years this country is only ever elected for labour prime ministers. they know that history is sort of against them so there's definitely a sort of caution first. and i think angela rayner did not want to end up being