Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC 20240703 : comparemela.com

Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC 20240703

Feels like a time capsule stuck in the horrors of the 7th of october. Hamas broke in at dawn. They killed and took Hostage A Quarter of the 400 or so israelis who lived here. Sayed was laying there dead, nearthere. You could see that he was trying to hold the door closed, and actually, the door was locked. The army opened the door later. Ron behat and his family survived in their safe room. Then he recovered dead friends and neighbours, some in pieces. In this house, you know, that was the first time that we realised that we are not looking for only bodies, because the beginning, you know, we took a lot of bodies. The interrupted, terminated lives laundry neatly folded the night before the attack give israelis a sense of moral clarity. Going around this place, you can understand why israelis believe very strongly that theyre fighting a just war in gaza. Of course, their allies feel the same. Their quarrel is with the methods that israel has been using, that have cost so many innocent palestinian lives, and as for the family who lived here in this house, theyre dead. Israelis support the war. Many are also back on the streets, demanding the resignation of the Prime Minister. Netanyahus stated war aims total victory over hamas, as well as freeing the hostages have not been achieved. The demonstrators say thats because they come second to his own political survival. Nava rosalio leads a movement called shame. Netanyahu has an interest to lengthen the war as much as he can, because as long as the war is still going on, he can say that now is not the time to new elections. Now is not the time to look for who is responsible, which is he. Everyone here faces uncertainty, sometimes fear and a forbidding future. Israelis and palestinians look at each other with horror since the 7th of october. The old city ofjerusalem, the heart of their conflict, has been mostly quiet. During ramadan, many palestinians under 55 need Police Permission to join the crowds moving to the holy mosque. Palestinians were already convinced that their lack of rights under Israeli Occupation amounted to apartheid. Israel denies that allegation, and another considered plausible by the world court that it is committing genocide in gaza. Both sides believe that the other has carried out inhuman, unforgivable crimes since the 7th of october. New wounds on a century of scars. Dimitri diliani, a Palestinian Christian activist, says israelis are in denial. Killing children is killing children. It doesnt matter who is the child thats being killed, it doesnt matter who is doing the killing. I do sympathise with the holocaust. I recognise the holocaust. But that does not mean a green light for israel to commit genocide against my people or any other people. This is ramallah, on the west bank. Polls show palestinians have strong support for the hamas attacks, but like most israelis, they deny that their side commits atrocities. What happened on october 7th wasjust one, one. Whats the word . One thing that happened in a long. Many years of oppression. So, again, im going to repeat myself that our struggle will continue until we are free. Thats what any people under occupation, under oppression, under colonial settlers will do. We can report first hand here on the occupied west bank, just as we can from israel. But foreign journalists are not allowed into gaza by israel or egypt. The bbc commissioned a palestinian freelance in rafah to film 11 year old rima getting food for her family. Translation if we get there early, we get some food. But if were too late, the food runs out, so we wont have anything to eat. The food we bring is only enough for one meal. This has become a daily ritualfor the children, like rima, who fled to this part of rafah with theirfamilies. Much less aid reaches northern gaza, where famine is imminent. Israel, under us pressure, is letting more food in, but its also insisting that it cant finish off hamas without attacking this town, where1. 4 million palestinians, including rima, are sheltering. She says getting her family food makes her happy. But rimas pot is all seven people have to eat in a single day. Six months on, the gaza war is not over. A wider middle east war threatens. This could get worse. Jeremy bowen, bbc news, jerusalem. The anniversary of the hamas attacks of october seven also marks six months of captivity for the 133 people still believed to be held hostage in gaza. Their Family Members want Benjamin Netanyahu to make a deal to free them. Those calls are coming not only from israel but from the jewish diaspora. Six months in, frustration is mounting. On sunday, here in washington, protesters gathered at the lincoln memorial. Their message was bring them home. Meanwhile, the uks Foreign Secretary is warning that the uks support for israel is not unconditional. Writing in the sunday times, lord cameron said there is no doubt where the blame lies, warning it must never happen again, after three british men were among seven Charity Members killed when their convoy was hit in gaza last week. However the deputy Prime Minister 0liver Dowden has defended the uks continued arms sales to israel. He has rejected calls for the government published legal advice it has had whether israels conduct in the war has breached international law. Representatives of hamas, israel, Qatarand Representatives of hamas, israel, qatar and the United States met for Ceasefire Talks in cairo on the United States. On sunday. Bill burns attended. He is seen here meeting with egypts president al sisi. 0ne Egyptian News Agency is reporting the qatari and hamas delegations are on their way home and could return to egypt within days to attempt to finalise the deal. More now with aaron david miller, a long term negotiator and adviser at the us state department, now a Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for international peace. We thank you for being here. I would start with protest we saw. Not only in the us but also in israel, calling for the hostages to be brought home. There was some anger at the Israeli Government as well. Some families of hostages even accusing the prime list of prolonging the war to maintain political power essentially. What you make of all that and do you think israel is prioritising freeing the hostages to the extent it should be . Hostages to the extent it should be . , ~. , ~ should be . You know, i think hostages should be . You know, i think hostages for should be . You know, i think hostages for most should be . You know, i think hostages for most israelis. Should be . You know, i think| hostages for most israelis are their most critically important issue but not the time sensitive. 134 humans, 25 of israelis now believe were killed on october seven, their bodies brought to gaza to trade or died in captivity. So there is clearly a time issue here. Im not sure the public protests are what will sway the current Israeli Government. I think internal deliberations, the putative successor to netanyahu, benny gantz, and man whose son was killed tragically seven months ago, they are pushing netanyahu to be as flexible as possible and you know the president and his phone call and in subsequent communications from other senior us officials are pushing hard to see whether or not this round, and there is a us proposal on the table, will prove to be more successful than the last. So i think the israeli objective is still to fundamentally make it impossible for hamas to function as an organised military force, let alone pull off another 0ctober seven. That is competing obviously, has completed with the priority of getting the hostages home. Lets talk about those negotiations taking place in cairo. We are hearing reports from egyptian media that there has been some progress toward some sort of ceasefire agreement. How hopeful are you that these talks could be successful . Successful . You know, negotiations, successful . You know, negotiations, i successful . You know, negotiations, i have i successful . You know, i negotiations, i have been around negotiations for a long time between arabs and israelis, israelis and palestinians. Undertwo palestinians. Under two circumstances they palestinians. Undertwo circumstances they have two speeds, slower and slower. This is an extraordinary negotiation where the key Decision Makers since 20 or 30 metres below ground in rafah or khan younis in some tunnel, and the israelis are negotiating indirectly through with hamas through qatari and egyptian mediatorss, with the cia director and mossad Playing Key Roles in these negotiations. So is it possible . Yes. The real question in my mind is whether or not there is sufficient urgency on the part of the government of israel and hamas, and remember this is not one hand clapping. We have to remind ourselves that israel is not a lone actor here. Hamas has a vote, and israelis are withdrawing their forces from khan younis, you could argue that hamas would look at this and say, you know, it is working in our favour. And say, you know, it is working in ourfavour. Why and say, you know, it is working in our favour. Why make the deal . Lets press for more advantageous terms. That could be a complicating factor, but again, negotiations are so opaque that only those actually involved in the intimate details of a real sense of how close we are, or not, to a limited deal that is still going to leave. Limited deal that is still going to leave. Limited deal that is still auoin to leave. ,. , going to leave. You mentioned this withdrawal going to leave. You mentioned this withdrawal from going to leave. You mentioned this withdrawal from southern i this withdrawal from Southern Gaza by most of israels troops there, what do you think that says about the state of the current battlefield right now . I think the israelis have deployed initially 100,000 troops in a major ground campaign, comprehensive air strikes, huge kinetic activity. They have withdrawn most of those forces from northern gaza. They have one brigade left, which is straddling the east west road, which they control, which more or less splits gaza in half. So i think it is part and parcel of what the israelis had planned all along, that at some point the pace of this would shift to more mobile operations, continued air strikes, but Intelligence Driven operations, designed to locate hostages, to show hamass Senior Leadership and essentially to eliminate whatever residual capacity, rocket launchers, which are still a potential threat. That i think is a downshift. Aaron david miller, i think is a downshift. Aaron david miller, a i think is a downshift. Aaron david miller, a longterm. David miller, a long term negotiator and adviser of the us state department, now Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for international peace, thank you much for your perspective. Around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. Lets take a look at another story making news. Police in bradford have released the name of a man wanted in connection of a murder on saturday afternoon. He is 25 and from the 0ldham area. He is wanted in connection with the fatal stabbing of a 27 year old woman, who was pushing her baby in a pram in Bradford City centre. A knife has been recovered from the scene of the incident. Judith moritz has more. Detectives are casting their nets wider than just here in bradford. The man is said to have links to places including in 0ldham, burnley and chester, and so West Yorkshire police say they are lazing with neighbouring forces, as well as those further afield, who may be able to help. Witnesses say after stabbing the woman multiple times, the man ran off before anyone could stop him. Detectives say they have had a good response from witnesses, are following up on a number of lines of enquiry but are asking drivers with Dash Cam Footage orany drivers with Dash Cam Footage or any other information on that case to come forward to authorities. You are alive with bbc news. Sunday marks 30 years since the start of one of the most brutal episodes in world history, the genocide against ethnic tutsis and moderate hutus in rwanda. Injust 100 hutus in rwanda. Injust100 daysin hutus in rwanda. Injust100 days in 1994, extremis killed 800,000 people. During a Commemoration Ceremony in the capital, rwandas president said the International Community failed his country. Earlier, i spoke to one survivor, jacqueline, who was also the founder of the Genocide Survivors Foundation. You were nine years old when this took place, you lost six of your siblings and your parents, most of your extended family. How have you been able to deal with that . Is it even possible to come to terms with what happened . It has been difficult. It has been 30 years but for those who live through the genocide it may as well have been yesterday, because the horrific memories of that time, the images, the loss of ourfamilies, ourfriends, our neighbours living in an environment where each day we got up not knowing whether or not we would survive to see the next day, these are memories that still, even 30 years later, are a part of our lives. I always tell people that genocide is something you can never get over. So the thing that time heals, i believe its not true. Time alone does not heal. Healing is a journey, and when you speak to even Holocaust Survivors who are in their 805, they will tell you that the memories and the loss still very real. So it is an ongoing battle that survivors continue to fight. What about rwanda itself as a country . These are deep wounds there. How effectively do you think it has been able to deal with that and move forward now, three decades on . I think there has been tremendous progress, you cant deny that, in terms of political progress, economically, socially. We have a government that has been very much committed to coexistence between all of rwandas citizens, and people have to realise that the 1994 genocide against the tutsis did not happen overnight. It arose from years of indoctrination, from years of a cult, where it was made ok for tutsis to be killed, and always with impunity. So prior to the genocide, we had a government that was very much committed to divisive politics, which man applies power by pitting one group of citizens against another, and fortunately since the genocide, we have had a government as i said that is committed to the unity of rwandans, that ya says yes, you are tutsis but you are also rwandans, who have more in common than differences. I always say that as long as you have a leadership committed to unity and peaceful coexistence of all rwandans, then the future of rwanda is bright. But as a country that has gone through genocide, any post genocide country always needs to be vigilant, because the ideology of genocide is not one that dies overnight. So there is a constant need again to remind rwandans that the unity of rwandans is the only thing that is going to ensure a peaceful future, and that there is no good that extremism and violence, but that only leads to death and destruction, and i think given what happened in 1994, rwandans generally want to make sure that we never sink back. Since 1994, looking globally, how much progress do you think has been made to create a world where genocide wont happen again in any country . You know, i would like to say that 30 years after the genocide, i would like to say that the lessons of the genocide have been learned, but unfortunately, when you look at the state of the world today, extremist motivated violence, we are seeing it everywhere, literally in every continent. So a lot of the lessons that should have been learned 30 years ago unfortunately have not been learned. We still live in a world where our governments privatise political interests, economic interests over saving innocent civilian lives from being systematically murdered. So while there has been some progress in terms of education and awareness about genocide, there are still very much, most governments still lack the political will to prevent genocide. So theres still a lot of work to be done, and this is why i do the work that i do with the Genocide Survivors Foundation and that im speaking to you today, because again, as survivors of the genocide we lost our families, i lost my entire family, as you said. We want to use our experiences and voice to keep speaking out. It is important work. Thank you very much forjoining us. Russia says ukraine has carried out a drone attack on the Nuclear Power station, and that plant is on the front line fighting between russian and ukrainian forces. Both sides regularly accuse others of shelling it and risking nuclear disaster. It was taken from ukrainian control shortly after russias full scale invasion in 2022. Experts at the International Atomic agency confirmed damage at one of the plants six reactors had damage. 0ne one was reported. Russia said three people were wounded when a canteen was hit. The Director General of the iaea urged both sides not to jeopardise nuclear safety. The us Aviation Regulator says it is investigating why the casing of an engine ripped off a boeing seven 300, as it began a flight from denver. The casing, also known as the engine cowling, disintegrated during take off. It was headed to houston, forced to return to Denver International airport. No injuries were reported. Well vernon has been following those developments. It vernon has been followi

© 2025 Vimarsana