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Confirm the details togetherwithout allies. We have condemned irans reckless and dangerous barrage of missiles against israel on saturday and israel absolutely has the right to self defence but as i said to Prime Minister netanyahu last week, significant escalation is not in any ones interest, we want calm heads to prevail across the region. The International Atomic Energy Agency has confirmed there is no damage to irans nuclearfacilities. In a social media post, the agencys director general, Rafael Mariano grossi, continued to call for extreme restraint from everybody and said Nuclear Facilities should never be a target in military conflicts. Lets speak to our Diplomatic Correspondent James Landale whos injerusalem. James, give us a flavour of the reaction that there has been so far to this attack . To this attack . Well, internationally, to this attack . Well, internationally, there has to this attack . Well, internationally, there has been actually a fairly muted response of various countries from the chinese to the egyptians and others have merely limited themselves to generic reactions, saying that they oppose anything that escalates the situation and the conflict, they have not been overly critical of israel by name, let alone attributing any responsibility. The only country that has actually been critical was oh, man, who have actually condemned the attack. Oman. Interestingly, internally, within israel, still a place where the Israeli Government has not admitted any responsibility for what has happened, there was an extraordinary response by a member of the government, a member of the cabinet, the National Security minister, itamar ben gvir, part of the ultranationalist father part of the ultranationalist father part of the governing coalition, on whom the Prime Minister, benjamin netanyahu, depends. He put out a post this morning on x, formerly twitter, it wasjust one word, morning on x, formerly twitter, it was just one word, and morning on x, formerly twitter, it wasjust one word, and im morning on x, formerly twitter, it was just one word, and im told morning on x, formerly twitter, it wasjust one word, and im told it best translates from the hebrew by the english word laying. In other words he is indicating that he thinks that what has happened is not good enough. Lame. That has provoked a furious response from the leader of israels opposition, who said again, posting in return, he said, a Security Cabinet Minister has never caused such heavy damage to the countrys International Standing and security image, with an unforgivable one word tweet, ben kabir has managed to ridicule the country, any other Prime Minister would have thrown him out of the cabinet this morning. In other words there are political divisions over what has happened here injerusalem before israel even acknowledges if it has any responsibility for what happened overnight. find it has any responsibility for what happened overnight. Happened overnight. And at this staue happened overnight. And at this stage presumably happened overnight. And at this stage presumably we happened overnight. And at this stage presumably we dont happened overnight. And at this| stage presumably we dont know weather this is the end of the matter in terms of a response or weather it is the opening salvo from israel . ,. , weather it is the opening salvo from israel . ,. , weather it is the opening salvo from israel . ,. ,. , israel . Yeah, and that is a crucial question. Israel . Yeah, and that is a crucial question. Is israel . Yeah, and that is a crucial question, is this israel . Yeah, and that is a crucial question, is this just israel . Yeah, and that is a crucial question, is thisjust a israel . Yeah, and that is a crucial question, is thisjust a starter, i question, is this just a starter, just to satisfy some voices in israel who say, we have got to hit back hard, we cannot let what happened last weekend go and responded to. And if you think about it, more than 300 missiles and drones flying over the skies of israel, even flying over where we are here injerusalem, there had been a lot of pressure from some israelis, the government had to do something, they are about to start the passover holiday so it might be that this is just the start, something to tide people over, or eight could be that is it, we chip reid dont know yet. We must remember, we are at the starting stage of this event, we still do not know precisely what has happened, and therefore we have got to be cautious before inferring too many consequences as a result. What cautious before inferring too many consequences as a result. What do ou make consequences as a result. What do you make so consequences as a result. What do you make so far consequences as a result. What do you make so far of consequences as a result. What do you make so far of the consequences as a result. What do you make so far of the reaction consequences as a result. What do i you make so far of the reaction from iran itself, an impression that they are also trying to play down, but in the past few days they have said that they would retaliate if there were an attack on their territory, what do you make of what you have seen so far this morning . I what do you make of what you have seen so far this morning . What do you make of what you have seen so far this morning . I think we have not seen so far this morning . I think we have got to seen so far this morning . I think we have got to remember seen so far this morning . I think we have got to remember that seen so far this morning . I think we have got to remember that in seen so far this morning . I think we have got to remember that in this. Have got to remember that in this kind of story, this kind of event, when people say things, they are not just accurately reporting opinions and intentions, they are not accurately saying what they are trying to do, sometimes they are trying to do, sometimes they are trying to do, sometimes they are trying to change other peoples behaviour. So, in recent days iran has been sending out more and more robust messaging, saying that if israel attacks, then there will be a very firm response. That was an attempt by iran to deter israel, to restrain israel. Now, in response, now that israel it appears has made some response, if iran wishes to downplay what has happened, if it wishes not to be more escalating, thenit wishes not to be more escalating, then it could be sending out messages that say, we dont even know who sent this, it wasnt successful, we shot down three drones, there has been no damage, et cetera. So, if iran is trying to play it down, it could be not because iran is accurately reporting what has or has not happened, we dont know, it could be because iran wishes just to calm things down. James landale, thank you very much indeed. We can speak now tojeremy bowen, our international editor. Generally, what is your assessment of what we have seen overnight and this morning . I of what we have seen overnight and this morning . This morning . I think the big auestion this morning . I think the big question is this morning . I think the Big Question Is Whether this morning . I think the Big Question Is Whether or this morning . I think the Big Question Is Whether or not i this morning . I think the big l question is whether or not this this morning . I think the Big Question Is Whether or not this is it, question is whether or not this is it. Whether question is whether or not this is it, whether or not israel plans to do anything else. I think that if this is do anything else. I think that if this is all do anything else. I think that if this is all israel is going to do, then this is all israel is going to do, then it this is all israel is going to do, then it seems that it might be possible. Then it seems that it might be possible, as the americans and others possible, as the americans and others were hoping to draw a line under others were hoping to draw a line under this others were hoping to draw a line under this whole section of the saga, under this whole section of the saga, however, what i would say is that that saga, however, what i would say is that that is saga, however, what i would say is that that is not yet certain, and if it is the that that is not yet certain, and if it is the case, it doesnt mean that this entire it is the case, it doesnt mean that this entire crisis is over, far from it. This entire crisis is over, far from it it this entire crisis is over, far from it it started this entire crisis is over, far from it. It started on the ist of april with it. It started on the ist of april with that it. It started on the ist of april with that attack by the israelis on the irauiau with that attack by the israelis on the iranian diplomatic compound in damascus, the iranian diplomatic compound in damascus, and then since then, i think damascus, and then since then, i think both damascus, and then since then, i think both sides have shown that they, think both sides have shown that they, for think both sides have shown that they, for all the obsessive interest they, for all the obsessive interest they take they, for all the obsessive interest they take in each other, they really dont they take in each other, they really dont get they take in each other, they really dont get it they take in each other, they really dont get it as far as each other is concerned. Dont get it as far as each other is concerned, they cant read each other concerned, they cant read each other very concerned, they cant read each other very well, i think as a result of that, other very well, i think as a result of that, they both miscalculated, is one and of that, they both miscalculated, is one and israel, about the other tutors one and israel, about the other tutors intentions, and that is not a good tutors intentions, and that is not a good omen tutors intentions, and that is not a good omen for the future. As well as that, good omen for the future. As well as that, precedents have been set, direct that, precedents have been set, direct attacks on each others territory. Direct attacks on each others territory, so neither is very encouraging for what is already an extremely encouraging for what is already an extremely turbulent and dangerous region extremely turbulent and dangerous reuion. ~ ,. , extremely turbulent and dangerous reuion. ~. ,. , region. When you talk about the resonse region. When you talk about the response so region. When you talk about the response so far, region. When you talk about the response so far, israels region. When you talk about the response so far, israels allies i region. When you talk about the l response so far, israels allies had called for restraint and there has also been apparently because for a iranian restraint, too. What do you see as The Next Step . Iranian restraint, too. What do you see as The Next Step . Well, everyone is callin see as The Next Step . Well, everyone is calling for see as The Next Step . Well, everyone is calling for restraint, see as The Next Step . Well, everyone is calling for restraint, actually, is calling for restraint, actually, pretty is calling for restraint, actually, pretty much except for no doubt hardliners pretty much except for no doubt hardliners in iran and a few hardliners in iran and a few hardliners in iran and a few hardliners in israel as well. Itamar bengvir, hardliners in israel as well. Itamar ben gvir, the National Security minister ben gvir, the National Security minister in ben gvir, the National Security minister in israel, who said after the initial. Minister in israel, who said after the initial, last saturday, the iranian the initial, last saturday, the iranian response to that israeli airstrike. Iranian response to that israeli airstrike, he said then that israel should airstrike, he said then that israel should go airstrike, he said then that israel should go berserk. And his one word tweeted should go berserk. And his one word tweeted this morning was, people, or useless, tweeted this morning was, people, or useless, Something Like that, was the translation of the hebrew. Feeble the translation of the hebrew. Feeble and the translation of the hebrew. Feeble. And there are more serious characters feeble. And there are more serious characters as well, inside the israeli characters as well, inside the israeli war cabinet, there are retired israeli war cabinet, there are retired generals gantz and ison cop, who wanted to have a response pretty quickly who wanted to have a response pretty quickly to who wanted to have a response pretty quickly to all of this, because for the as quickly to all of this, because for the as well quickly to all of this, because for the as well use, showing that they are able the as well use, showing that they are able to the as well use, showing that they are able to deter their enemies is enough are able to deter their enemies is enouthor are able to deter their enemies is enough forthem. Are able to deter their enemies is enough for them. Joe biden and others enough for them. Joe biden and others have been trying to persuade them others have been trying to persuade them that others have been trying to persuade them that they have effectively deterred them, by dealing with that lare deterred them, by dealing with that large iranian attack, albeit with the help large iranian attack, albeit with the help of powerful western allies, notably the help of powerful western allies, notably the united states. And so, i think that notably the united states. And so, i think that if notably the united states. And so, i think that if israel doesnt lob any more think that if israel doesnt lob any more missiles in the direction of iran, more missiles in the direction of iran, then more missiles in the direction of iran, then i more missiles in the direction of iran, then i think that this probably will draw a line under the episode probably will draw a line under the episode probably will draw a line under the episode. 0r probably will draw a line under the episode. Orthe fact probably will draw a line under the episode. Or the fact that the middle episode. Or the fact that the middle east is still in Absolute Turmoit middle east is still in absolute turmoil. , middle east is still in absolute turmoil. , ,. , middle east is still in absolute turmoil. So, as you say, if everyone draws a line turmoil. So, as you say, if everyone draws a line under turmoil. So, as you say, if everyone draws a line under it turmoil. So, as you say, if everyone draws a line under it and turmoil. So, as you say, if everyone draws a line under it and there turmoil. So, as you say, if everyone draws a line under it and there is i turmoil. So, as you say, if everyone draws a line under it and there is a l draws a line under it and there is a degree of deescalation, what would need to happen next in that region, because of course there is also the gaza war going on, there has been the houthi attacks on shipping in the houthi attacks on shipping in the red sea, the shadow war on the border in lebanon between israel and hezbollah, what would be The Next Step that would need to happen to bring down the temperature more broadly in the region into for any chance of the temperatures coming down, a ceasefire in gaza. Trying to bring aid to the people. An attempt to stop that famine that israel denies, but clearly is occurring. The indications from professionals in the field of food emergency. It all really comes down to gaza. Getting that done and getting that ceasefire done. However, the ceasefire done. However, the Ceasefire Talks are getting nowhere, recrimination. No particular surprise. Hamas making demands. Would not agree to. And now, what seems very clear is that israel is gearing up for that offensive in the southern part of the gaza strip in rafah. That is what is coming next. The americans are saying to the israelis, and they have been for weeks and weeks, you cant do it unless you can find a way of not harming civilians. Its very hard to see how civilians could be protected in such a small area when there are so many of them. If israel is contemplating taking offensive action, in other parts of the gaza strip, they are continuing with the war, there have been raids in the middle section of the territory in the last 2a hours. So, just because the last 2a hours. So, just because the worlds attention has been on iran and israel, that department of the conflict, in the last week or two, does not mean to say that things have eased up in gaza, far from it. Jeremy bowen, our international editor, thank you very much indeed, apologies, there was a bit of a breakup on the line there. The president of the European Commission, ursula von der leyen, has called for de escalation, here she is. All sides should restrain from the escalation in that region. We have seen the Massive Attack with drones and missiles, about 300, by iran on israel. It is absolutely necessary that the region stays stable and that all sides refrain from further action. G7 ministers are meeting in capri, and our correspondentJessica Parker is there. And our correspondent Jessica Parker is there. , and our correspondent Jessica Parker is there. , and our correspondent Jessica Parker is there. ,. , is there. Yeah, i mean, they had been discussing is there. Yeah, i mean, they had been discussing the is there. Yeah, i mean, they had been discussing the middle is there. Yeah, i mean, they had been discussing the middle east| been discussing the middle east yesterday, Foreign Ministers here in capri, from g7 nations, the Informal Group of wealthy countries, and actually they then moved onto other but

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